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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
June 26 2009 07:47 GMT
#81
There was also a game where Boxer used valkyries just a short time before Fantasy started to. In addition, I think he used Valkyries a long time ago, don't really know if it was effective or not though.
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
June 26 2009 07:47 GMT
#82
Damn kids. Boxer represent yo, only time will tell how good he becomes but he clearly brilliant + army time probably helped him mature even further as a person. If he tries to become dominant I'm sure there is a chance for him. He has a lottttt of experience which will help when he is caught up on playtime.
Nak Allstar.
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
June 26 2009 07:47 GMT
#83
On June 25 2009 15:57 Probe. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2009 14:36 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
He is amazing. What Boxer has done for e-sports is unmatched by any other gamer of all time.

Though to be fair Yellow was playing on a lot of Terran favored maps back in the day


The only reason i got into competitive starcraft, TL, the pro gaming seen, is because of Boxer. He is a legend beyond all other legends and even if he plays bad compared to pros these days, he will always be good.
Funny, boxer is the reason I left competitive play. I would play everyday trying to become as good as possible around ~2001'ish. I thought I was doing really good, I could beat everyone on my small circle of friends and had joined a decent clan. Korean vods didn't seem that far away from the observer point of view. Until I saw a boxer fpvod. He clicked faster than I could type. And I concluded, no matter how much I try, I simply cannot practice enough to get THAT fast. I will never beat someone who plays like THAT. I will never be the best at this game.

That day I quit playing starcraft. Now I only spectate ^^
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
gjg.instinct
Profile Joined May 2009
144 Posts
June 26 2009 16:25 GMT
#84
he has actually beat Flash and Bisu in competition...who are arguably two of the greatest players for their respective races of all time...obviously he's not better than them, but for an old legend to go toe to toe with the best players of today in ANY sport is remarkable.
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
June 26 2009 16:35 GMT
#85
The guy who got me into the pro-scene asked me this: "Do you know Boxer?"

I was summarily enlightened and haven't viewed Starcraft the same since.

Basically Boxer is a god in a man's guise.
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2005 Posts
June 26 2009 16:39 GMT
#86
I recall reading a while back that Boxer had the best TvT record during one of his proleague seasons even though he was on Ace. That's pretty impressive.
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Mongery
Profile Joined May 2009
892 Posts
June 26 2009 16:41 GMT
#87
I dont think he could ever get bad? Hes just not in shape as he used to be. He might just be playing iccup by now.
http://www.twitch.tv/mongery_tv https://www.esportsearnings.com/players/27699-mongery-
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
June 26 2009 16:45 GMT
#88
Anyone remember the Boxer vs Rekrul game? Some fun game at Rekruls place. Anyways that replay really shows how good Boxer is TvP although it's his worst MU by far in pro-gaming.
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
Faronel
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States658 Posts
June 26 2009 16:47 GMT
#89
Boxer's bad to the bone.

Boxer's the powerglove. He's so bad.

Boxer's so bad, he makes this look good.
C'est la vie...
Teh_Arbitur
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden60 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-26 17:32:18
June 26 2009 17:31 GMT
#90
On June 26 2009 04:31 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2009 04:12 Teh_Arbitur wrote:
On June 26 2009 01:26 koreasilver wrote:
On June 26 2009 00:30 nozaro33 wrote:
Seriously, talking (I don't think arguing) about whether Boxer is bad or not is stupid and kinda pointless. For instance, Nada hasn't been doing that great lately, is he bad? No, it's just much harder for players like him (and Boxer) to keep up with the scene with all the new and younger players. (Which all have insane mechanics and faster hands)

But Nada is the most consistent player of progaming history ever and he still continues to be a relevant player, which Boxer completely fails at.


Dont ever compare the emperor to nada.

IDC, what anyone of you think. Boxer will always be a god of starcraft and noone will never ever get anywhere close to what he once was.


Boxer is the most successful SC player ever (I doubt anyone is going to get more titles than him).

It's a shame to compare Boxer with Nada.


Oh dear, a typo. Fixed it for you.
fearus wrote: How is Bisu going to be able to concentrate with his striking good looks staring back at him? Conspiracy!!!!
Kim_Hyun_Han
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
706 Posts
June 26 2009 17:35 GMT
#91
On June 26 2009 16:47 VIB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2009 15:57 Probe. wrote:
On June 25 2009 14:36 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
He is amazing. What Boxer has done for e-sports is unmatched by any other gamer of all time.

Though to be fair Yellow was playing on a lot of Terran favored maps back in the day


The only reason i got into competitive starcraft, TL, the pro gaming seen, is because of Boxer. He is a legend beyond all other legends and even if he plays bad compared to pros these days, he will always be good.
Funny, boxer is the reason I left competitive play. I would play everyday trying to become as good as possible around ~2001'ish. I thought I was doing really good, I could beat everyone on my small circle of friends and had joined a decent clan. Korean vods didn't seem that far away from the observer point of view. Until I saw a boxer fpvod. He clicked faster than I could type. And I concluded, no matter how much I try, I simply cannot practice enough to get THAT fast. I will never beat someone who plays like THAT. I will never be the best at this game.

That day I quit playing starcraft. Now I only spectate ^^



wow haha

ure good

yeah u are
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
June 26 2009 17:47 GMT
#92
On June 26 2009 16:47 VIB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2009 15:57 Probe. wrote:
On June 25 2009 14:36 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
He is amazing. What Boxer has done for e-sports is unmatched by any other gamer of all time.

Though to be fair Yellow was playing on a lot of Terran favored maps back in the day


The only reason i got into competitive starcraft, TL, the pro gaming seen, is because of Boxer. He is a legend beyond all other legends and even if he plays bad compared to pros these days, he will always be good.
Funny, boxer is the reason I left competitive play. I would play everyday trying to become as good as possible around ~2001'ish. I thought I was doing really good, I could beat everyone on my small circle of friends and had joined a decent clan. Korean vods didn't seem that far away from the observer point of view. Until I saw a boxer fpvod. He clicked faster than I could type. And I concluded, no matter how much I try, I simply cannot practice enough to get THAT fast. I will never beat someone who plays like THAT. I will never be the best at this game.

That day I quit playing starcraft. Now I only spectate ^^

): Sad story man. Play for fun not for #1.
Peace~
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
June 26 2009 18:10 GMT
#93
Thats like not ever playing basketball even though you enjoy it just because youll never be able to do a dunk from the freethrow line
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
June 26 2009 18:11 GMT
#94
Nada is much more accomplished than boxer.

Pretty obvious...
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
goldenkrnboi
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3104 Posts
June 26 2009 18:16 GMT
#95
On June 27 2009 02:31 Teh_Arbitur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2009 04:31 SuperArc wrote:
On June 26 2009 04:12 Teh_Arbitur wrote:
On June 26 2009 01:26 koreasilver wrote:
On June 26 2009 00:30 nozaro33 wrote:
Seriously, talking (I don't think arguing) about whether Boxer is bad or not is stupid and kinda pointless. For instance, Nada hasn't been doing that great lately, is he bad? No, it's just much harder for players like him (and Boxer) to keep up with the scene with all the new and younger players. (Which all have insane mechanics and faster hands)

But Nada is the most consistent player of progaming history ever and he still continues to be a relevant player, which Boxer completely fails at.


Dont ever compare the emperor to nada.

IDC, what anyone of you think. Boxer will always be a god of starcraft and noone will never ever get anywhere close to what he once was.


Boxer is the most successful SC player ever (I doubt anyone is going to get more titles than him).

It's a shame to compare Boxer with Nada.


Oh dear, a typo. Fixed it for you.


umm....?

this is taking it a bit far.
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
June 26 2009 18:17 GMT
#96
Boxer will never be "bad", especially in comparison to a normal player. I mean he still HAS programer micro/macro, and he still roflpwns Korean A rank players on iccup, its just the fact that the other progamer competition is so much stronger because the methods of practicing used by progamers tend to improve them as players.
U Gotta Skate.
AloneInDaBunker
Profile Joined November 2008
Korea (South)123 Posts
June 26 2009 18:40 GMT
#97
he is good. don't argue with me. he is just good.
Boxer is the truth.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-26 19:07:25
June 26 2009 19:00 GMT
#98
On June 26 2009 04:12 Teh_Arbitur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2009 01:26 koreasilver wrote:
On June 26 2009 00:30 nozaro33 wrote:
Seriously, talking (I don't think arguing) about whether Boxer is bad or not is stupid and kinda pointless. For instance, Nada hasn't been doing that great lately, is he bad? No, it's just much harder for players like him (and Boxer) to keep up with the scene with all the new and younger players. (Which all have insane mechanics and faster hands)

But Nada is the most consistent player of progaming history ever and he still continues to be a relevant player, which Boxer completely fails at.


Dont ever compare the emperor to nada.

IDC, what anyone of you think. Boxer will always be a god of starcraft and noone will never ever get anywhere close to what he once was.

lol Nada > Boxer always.

Although Boxer might have sparked professional Broodwar, iloveoov has arguably done more for the game.
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-26 19:10:56
June 26 2009 19:06 GMT
#99
On June 25 2009 15:34 benjammin wrote:
[image loading]


Literally lol'd for about a minute.

On June 27 2009 04:00 koreasilver wrote:
lol Nada > Boxer always.

Also, this. Boxer was a trailblazer who changed the way we think about the game today, but if we have to pick the player with the greatest all-around career in the history of sc progaming, it's clearly Nada. Many others are comparable in their breif prime, but he's outlasted EVERYONE in terms of durability and consistency.
checo
Profile Joined November 2008
Mexico1364 Posts
June 26 2009 19:10 GMT
#100
On June 25 2009 13:56 Harem wrote:
One of his most recent games (where vod is available) answers this pretty well.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/10472_BoxeR_vs_Calm


You must see both part before judge my friend





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