Seriously, talking (I don't think arguing) about whether Boxer is bad or not is stupid and kinda pointless. For instance, Nada hasn't been doing that great lately, is he bad? No, it's just much harder for players like him (and Boxer) to keep up with the scene with all the new and younger players. (Which all have insane mechanics and faster hands)

StorrZerg

United States13919 Posts

June 25 2009 15:33 GMT

#52

On June 25 2009 15:47 jimminy_kriket wrote:
that screenshot is the most disgusting thing ive seen in months

and sad

NovaTheFeared

United States7229 Posts

June 25 2009 15:41 GMT

#53

Unfortunately his playing skill relative to other progamers has dropped to that of a rookie, as seen by the SS of his sub 2000 ELO. Hopefully he picks up his game.

Leath

Canada1724 Posts

June 25 2009 16:03 GMT

#54

On June 25 2009 13:46 Beachac wrote:
I'm kind of new to the starcraft scene, but I see that boxer has been losing a lot of his recent games, so I'm just curious, has he lost his touch?

Yup.
I think he may have, in fact, dropped down to B, B+

Smokin_Squirrel

Korea (South)674 Posts

June 25 2009 16:05 GMT

#55

If you're talking about ICCup, no way Boxer is B or B+

GoSu

Korea (South)1773 Posts

June 25 2009 16:09 GMT

#56

He will play in e-STARS. I hope he will do a good result!!

geegee1

United States618 Posts

June 25 2009 16:10 GMT

#57

Leath didnt you know boxer had a iccup month last season wasnt he A+ i dont understand how he would be B or B+

Zozma

United States1626 Posts

June 25 2009 16:13 GMT

#58

No, Boxer is always on the side of justice.

Zoler

Sweden6339 Posts

June 25 2009 16:14 GMT

#59

On June 26 2009 01:03 Leath wrote:

Show nested quote +

Yup.
I think he may have, in fact, dropped down to B, B+

Was a replay not long ago here on teamliquid where Boxer just toyed with one of our (foreigners) best players....

Musoeun

United States4324 Posts

June 25 2009 16:21 GMT

#60

Boxer?

Well, he's always been a micro-oriented player, and the advent of iloveoov (and corresponding changes from the other races) brought on a macro-focused game that he didn't deal with well - not that he wasn't a threat when he was still playing regularly.

Then he went to - and basically created - ACE, and without proper practice time/practice partners, his play really started to slip towards the end. End of Boxer as a player?

....Right. And then last year he helped reinvent the TvZ mech build as a viable option (for which, thanks gas-heavy maps). Specifically, he brought valks back, which fantasy's been running with ever since, and other players started experimenting regularly. But that only got him so far. So his mind's still first-class, but in playing ability he simply doesn't match today's A-Class and S-Class gamers. He's still got some of the "touch", but his macro mechanics (especially) don't keep up with the younger players.

If Boxer starts playing regularly, he's going to have to do it by figuring out how to abuse today's BOs to bring opponents down to his low-econ heavy micro style, and he'll still get beaten by the 400-APM wizards like by.hero.

Can he win? Yes, probably. But it's too much of a risk for him to be in the lineup.