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Is boxer bad now?

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Beachac
Profile Joined June 2009
United States278 Posts
June 25 2009 04:46 GMT
#1
I'm kind of new to the starcraft scene, but I see that boxer has been losing a lot of his recent games, so I'm just curious, has he lost his touch?
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-25 04:50:54
June 25 2009 04:48 GMT
#2
Boxer hasn't been good ever since he joined the airforce 2+ years ago (well he hasn't been that good since 5 years ago). He recently finished his term and rejoined SKT1, but he's clearly old and out of shape now. The skill level of Progamers these days is just way higher than it was when he was at his peak.

That said, he's still The Emperor and the most important figure in Starcraft history. The fans still love him.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
June 25 2009 04:50 GMT
#3
No

It's just that the average standard has increased, so it seems that he's lost his touch

His skills/builds are still of the same level. However, we can't really say much since he hasn't played often (his 'recent' losses were mostly when he was in ACE, where it was often mentioned how much they lacked practice partners and stuff)
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
June 25 2009 04:52 GMT
#4
On June 25 2009 13:48 Zzoram wrote:
Boxer hasn't been good ever since he joined the airforce 2+ years ago (well he hasn't been that good since 5 years ago). He recently finished his term and rejoined SKT1, but he's clearly old and out of shape now. The skill level of Progamers these days is just way higher than it was when he was at his peak.

That said, he's still The Emperor and the most important figure in Starcraft history. The fans still love him.

Boxer was raping face right before he joined airforce. He went like 13-0 vs Zerg a month before he joined up. Now he's regaining his form back in SKT (which is just stacked full of talent atm)
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
June 25 2009 04:54 GMT
#5
On June 25 2009 13:52 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2009 13:48 Zzoram wrote:
Boxer hasn't been good ever since he joined the airforce 2+ years ago (well he hasn't been that good since 5 years ago). He recently finished his term and rejoined SKT1, but he's clearly old and out of shape now. The skill level of Progamers these days is just way higher than it was when he was at his peak.

That said, he's still The Emperor and the most important figure in Starcraft history. The fans still love him.

Boxer was raping face right before he joined airforce. He went like 13-0 vs Zerg a month before he joined up. Now he's regaining his form back in SKT (which is just stacked full of talent atm)

But he's yet to prove that (except that OSL prelims)... hopefully he gets to play soon.
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Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
June 25 2009 04:55 GMT
#6
On June 25 2009 13:52 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2009 13:48 Zzoram wrote:
Boxer hasn't been good ever since he joined the airforce 2+ years ago (well he hasn't been that good since 5 years ago). He recently finished his term and rejoined SKT1, but he's clearly old and out of shape now. The skill level of Progamers these days is just way higher than it was when he was at his peak.

That said, he's still The Emperor and the most important figure in Starcraft history. The fans still love him.

Boxer was raping face right before he joined airforce. He went like 13-0 vs Zerg a month before he joined up. Now he's regaining his form back in SKT (which is just stacked full of talent atm)


Yeah, and also it's not like Boxer failed totally in ACE when you think about the circumstances (no practice, etc). Boxer defeated Savior (in prime), Nal_ra, Flash, Nada, Bisu, free for example while being in ACE.
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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
June 25 2009 04:56 GMT
#7
One of his most recent games (where vod is available) answers this pretty well.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/10472_BoxeR_vs_Calm
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oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6651 Posts
June 25 2009 05:04 GMT
#8
While on ACE and now while on SKT again, Boxer's impact as an elder player must be greatly beneficial. However, I would also note that perhaps the best Proleague record of any ACE player during their time on ACE (apart from Clon's success in 2v2) was probably Boxer's TvT - he went 12-12 with wins against Flash, Hiya, Light, Mind. He has given statements that he has been training and working on his mechanics to become a successful player again.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27179 Posts
June 25 2009 05:07 GMT
#9
Relative to the newer players who did not have to go to the airforce, and are still hungry, Boxer is not dominant.

However Boxer is not, and never will be, bad.
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CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-25 05:10:50
June 25 2009 05:10 GMT
#10
im going to post this for the ten thousandth time because i think its important.

Boxer is better than he ever was. The field gets better, as time goes. The window to truely dominate the scene is never more than 1 at most 2 years... because players are always training at younger ages, under improved stratagies and training techniques.

This explains a lot of stories of a lot of players. Players dont really get worse.... this is there life man. :/
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DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
June 25 2009 05:11 GMT
#11
On June 25 2009 13:56 Harem wrote:
One of his most recent games (where vod is available) answers this pretty well.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/10472_BoxeR_vs_Calm

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nebffa
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Australia776 Posts
June 25 2009 05:12 GMT
#12
I don't think hes going to get much of a shot to play before the 08-09 shinhan proleague is over. Next season SKT will feel a lot more free to give him a few more tries.
Deleted User 37864
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
780 Posts
June 25 2009 05:21 GMT
#13
To me, he feels more like Oov.
They're both acting as players on SKT1, but they serve more of coaches than players.
Boxer's macro and mechanics are lacking, but he is one of the most brilliant and innovative players ever.
So he does good as a player-coach.
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
June 25 2009 05:36 GMT
#14
He is amazing. What Boxer has done for e-sports is unmatched by any other gamer of all time.

Though to be fair Yellow was playing on a lot of Terran favored maps back in the day
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Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
June 25 2009 06:13 GMT
#15
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=76552

I remember when Plexa put this up. While I respected his opinion, the flurry of outrage following it was somewhat of mystery - Even if boxer somehow stopped playing well, he never played bad to the people who followed him. Even his losses were amazing to watch and that transcends what the current field seems to say is needed to be 'good'
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benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
June 25 2009 06:34 GMT
#16
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Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
June 25 2009 06:38 GMT
#17
wow idra!!!!! SO GOOD
Murdoink
Profile Joined March 2009
Chile1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-25 06:51:47
June 25 2009 06:38 GMT
#18
106 in KeSPA rankings, thought it'd be like 200 or something
(Idra is 228)
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12816 Posts
June 25 2009 06:39 GMT
#19
On June 25 2009 15:34 benjammin wrote:
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it rhymes! :D
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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5546 Posts
June 25 2009 06:47 GMT
#20
that screenshot is the most disgusting thing ive seen in months
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