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Icarus
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States105 Posts
May 20 2009 22:41 GMT
#1
Hey guys, I'm here w/ a problem, and I hope I can find a solution.

Since I started playing Starcraft online(US West, and now ICCup), I have never been able to host games. My lat will be in the red, and no one can join. And this has been a real problem lately because lately I've been trying to focus on one matchup a day(PvZ today, PvP tomorrow, etc.) to train, become better, and have fun.

However, I can't host games... part of it may be that I lag sometimes. But I was wondering if there are any solutions I can do on my own. Anyone know of any?

Thanks!
~| Icarus
Dr.Green
Profile Joined October 2008
Philippines264 Posts
May 20 2009 22:44 GMT
#2
are u using a router?
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Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
May 20 2009 22:46 GMT
#3
ya I have the same issue. My router's a real bitch, and after months of trying the ONLY thing that worked would be to turn on a dmz, and open all my ports [some crap like that, I forget]. But it only worked for a day, maybe three or four- depending purely on when my ip changed. It was frustrating and worked inconsistently, so I stopped bothering with it.
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Dr.Green
Profile Joined October 2008
Philippines264 Posts
May 20 2009 22:47 GMT
#4
i think it has something to do with the settings of your router, if your using one
Smoke weed everyday!
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
May 20 2009 22:51 GMT
#5
Hmmm..... open port maybe if using certain internet that prevents you to host... my best bet and advice for you is to google/wiki it....
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Icarus
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States105 Posts
May 20 2009 22:55 GMT
#6
Hey guys, thanks for quick replies!!

Yes, I"m using a router, a Linksys router to be more specific. I bought a new modem and a router after I finally told my parents that the router and modem were extremely outdated(like... I don't even remember when I bought it). So we bought a new modem and router.

Does that clear anything up?
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
May 20 2009 23:08 GMT
#7
On May 21 2009 07:46 Dazed_Spy wrote:
ya I have the same issue. My router's a real bitch, and after months of trying the ONLY thing that worked would be to turn on a dmz, and open all my ports [some crap like that, I forget]. But it only worked for a day, maybe three or four- depending purely on when my ip changed. It was frustrating and worked inconsistently, so I stopped bothering with it.


Set your local computer's IP to 192.168.1.101. Set DHCP on your router to give out IPs starting from 192.168.1.102. Forward necessary ports to .101. Never have problems again.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ragnasaur
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States804 Posts
May 20 2009 23:50 GMT
#8
this is straight forward.
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Icarus
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States105 Posts
May 21 2009 00:45 GMT
#9
Ok, so I'm using ragnasaur's website right now. Wow there're a lot of routers! But I found my model.

So, it says to enter my static IP... does that mean I set it to 192.168.1.101 like ShadowDrgn said?

And I hope this doesn't effect my PC security... it doesn't... right? :p

Thanks so much for the help so far guys!

~| Icarus
Icarus
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States105 Posts
May 21 2009 05:39 GMT
#10
Sorry... but I really need help w/ this! I'm not very software savvy... I'm all hardware :p

Plz help! I don't wanna screw things up by doing something wrong!
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
May 21 2009 05:48 GMT
#11
you really can't fuck anything up if you are just forwarding ports, if you forward it to the wrong ip or something nothing bad will happen it just won't do what you're trying to do. you can just mess around with it until it works.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
WhenHellfreezes
Profile Joined November 2008
United States81 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-21 05:56:23
May 21 2009 05:54 GMT
#12
yes that should be your static ip. As long as your static ip is on the lines of 198.162.0.1XX your fine. Though try to keep XX low as in like 01-12. Then your going to have to open port 6112 for TCP and UDP.

Also if your router has a list of programs to allow/block make sure starcraft isnt on the lists. While it seems counter intuitive some routers let you play on battle.net but not host on battle net with the blocked status.

Edit: with some routers you can make it so that only starcraft and only your computer can acess port 6112. Sometimes that is hard though.
Doom!
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
May 21 2009 05:55 GMT
#13
make sure you set your internal ip to a static address and not automatically assigned
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Icarus
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States105 Posts
May 21 2009 19:46 GMT
#14
Wow this is really frustrating T.T

I used rangasur's Port Forwarding website... and I did it but... it didn't work T.T I used their checking tool, and it says my port still isn't open... Gahhhh.

But I appreciate all of your help! If I could just get another way to do it... anyone know?

Btw, I did the port forwarding, but when I check my Wireless Network Connection, it still says that it's at its default numbers... gah
kiendudu
Profile Joined May 2008
Netherlands273 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-21 20:11:14
May 21 2009 20:07 GMT
#15
-first of all, check your IP address:
go to start menu and click "Run" and type "cmd", after that, a new window pop up, type "ipconfig/all". You should be able to see your IP right now, for example, my computer is 192.168.1.101 (remember your Lan and wireless have difference IP, you should write them both)

-Second, you have to go to your router configuration. Now open your browser, internet explorer or firefox and type in your rounter address. If you don't know, check in your router manual. For example, my router address is: 192.168.1.1. and then input your user name and password, they should be found in your router manual book as well, if you don't know, then ask the one who own the router.

-thirdly, assume that you access your rounter configuration, try to find "Port Range Forwarding" and type in your IP, both your Lan and wireless, type your Range for starcraft, it should be 6112-6119 tick in UDP, TCP and Enable box.

here is my example, remember my computer IP address is 192.168.1.101, but YOUR is different


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Icarus
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States105 Posts
May 21 2009 20:25 GMT
#16
Ok, my default was 192.168.1.1(btw, I made a typo in my OP, I actually have a Netgear router), like your IP. I went to Port forwarding/Port Triggering, clicked on Port Forwarding option, and typed in following:
Service Name: Starcraft1
Service Type: TCP/UDP
Start Port: 6112
End Port: 6119
Server IP Address: 192.168.1.1xx

Is that all I need to do? Or is there something else I must do?

I'm sorry if I seem ridiculously stupid... but first time doing it, and I really really wanna be able to host games so I can pick which matchups I wanna train :p

Thanks so much for the help so far!
~| Icarus
MuR)Ernu
Profile Joined September 2008
Finland768 Posts
May 21 2009 20:34 GMT
#17
fix your router.
Put the NAT off.

Depending on the router, its either very easy, or a fucking bitch
kiendudu
Profile Joined May 2008
Netherlands273 Posts
May 21 2009 21:04 GMT
#18
On May 22 2009 05:25 Icarus wrote:
Ok, my default was 192.168.1.1(btw, I made a typo in my OP, I actually have a Netgear router), like your IP. I went to Port forwarding/Port Triggering, clicked on Port Forwarding option, and typed in following:
Service Name: Starcraft1
Service Type: TCP/UDP
Start Port: 6112
End Port: 6119
Server IP Address: 192.168.1.1xx

Is that all I need to do? Or is there something else I must do?

I'm sorry if I seem ridiculously stupid... but first time doing it, and I really really wanna be able to host games so I can pick which matchups I wanna train :p

Thanks so much for the help so far!
~| Icarus


I think you have done everything I said, I hope it works for you

Remember, your Ip of your wireless and Lan is different, so you should put them in both

Just try to host the game, if no one join, restart scraftcraft and host again. Still not, then ask your friend if he/she can join your game

if it is still not working, I don't know man

^^
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
May 21 2009 21:33 GMT
#19
i have a router and can never figure it out so i always join others' games =(
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
Icarus
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States105 Posts
May 22 2009 00:29 GMT
#20
I've done all I can(with my minute knowledge of routers and networking)... and... it doesn't work :'( Ugh, I guess there goes practicing one matchup at a time... gah...

Anyways, thanks so much for all of your help, maybe I"ll figure it out w/ a miracle

~| Icarus
Ziph
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands970 Posts
May 22 2009 00:50 GMT
#21
Turn off your Router Firewall and if you have any virusscanners or firewalls on your pc (These days pretty much every virus scanner has a firewall) disable them. If you didn't already.
Starcraft 2 - Beta
snorlax
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States755 Posts
May 22 2009 00:58 GMT
#22
don't call blizzard they don't/won't help ive tried, my advice is get a techie friend to do it for you =]
Ra.Xor.2
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1784 Posts
May 22 2009 01:09 GMT
#23
Quick Question on ICCup is your ping the ping to the server? I have a really good internet connection and most times ppl have no trouble joining my games, but whenever i use /ping my ping is always god awlful (500-600). I live in Minnesota btw.
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SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
May 22 2009 01:30 GMT
#24
On May 22 2009 10:09 Ra.Xor.2 wrote:
Quick Question on ICCup is your ping the ping to the server? I have a really good internet connection and most times ppl have no trouble joining my games, but whenever i use /ping my ping is always god awlful (500-600). I live in Minnesota btw.


yes.
Wonders
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Australia753 Posts
May 22 2009 02:08 GMT
#25
I've had the same problem for a while. Long ago, my ports used to be forwarded correctly and I could join and host games fine, but it was still occasionally laggy. So I did everything in this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=86801 and now I can't create games. Even more, I can't even create games on LAN anymore. Other computers on the network can see it, but when they try to join it it says "unable to join game". I've tried undoing everything in that thread, but I don't know what the settings used to be before I changed them.

I'd really appreciate any help on this of course. It's usually not that bad just having to join other people's games, but when there's only 8 people your rank in the channel and half of them can't create, it becomes a big problem.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
May 22 2009 02:38 GMT
#26
On May 21 2009 08:50 ragnasaur wrote:
this is straight forward.

sadly this does not always work.
Icarus
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States105 Posts
May 22 2009 03:06 GMT
#27
Yea, that Port Forwarding website didn't work for me either :p Gahh... I wish there was a way to fix this... this is seriously delaying my potentially awesome training time :p
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-30 21:01:51
May 30 2009 20:58 GMT
#28
On May 21 2009 08:08 ShadowDrgn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2009 07:46 Dazed_Spy wrote:
ya I have the same issue. My router's a real bitch, and after months of trying the ONLY thing that worked would be to turn on a dmz, and open all my ports [some crap like that, I forget]. But it only worked for a day, maybe three or four- depending purely on when my ip changed. It was frustrating and worked inconsistently, so I stopped bothering with it.


Set your local computer's IP to 192.168.1.101. Set DHCP on your router to give out IPs starting from 192.168.1.102. Forward necessary ports to .101. Never have problems again.
How? Im using the router inexq, which is apparently...well, unknown. :o

Edit: I have a dynamic ip, and it says I need to have a static one...I dont 'know if I should change that, considering this is all my dad's set up not mine. :\
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
May 30 2009 22:42 GMT
#29
you can't change from a dynamic ip to a static ip if you're talking about your connection from your modem to the Internet (worldwide). However, you should be able to set a static ip to your local network for your computer. If you change it to something like 192.168.1.101, it shouldn't mess with anything else on your local network (unless A. something is already under that ip or B. you have over 100ish devices connected to your local network).
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noddyz
Profile Joined October 2008
United Kingdom462 Posts
May 30 2009 23:16 GMT
#30
Disable your routers firewall. that's the usual problem.
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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5522 Posts
May 30 2009 23:24 GMT
#31
check what your ip is, type ipconfig into cmd and see what it says, it should match the ip your forwarding ports to. if it doesnt, change it.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
May 30 2009 23:39 GMT
#32
On May 21 2009 09:45 Icarus wrote:
Ok, so I'm using ragnasaur's website right now. Wow there're a lot of routers! But I found my model.

So, it says to enter my static IP... does that mean I set it to 192.168.1.101 like ShadowDrgn said?

And I hope this doesn't effect my PC security... it doesn't... right? :p

Thanks so much for the help so far guys!

~| Icarus

There should be a guide about static ips on that site Ragnasaur mentioned
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Pakje
Profile Joined March 2009
Belgium288 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-30 23:54:08
May 30 2009 23:53 GMT
#33
1. go to your router config (typ ip adress into the browser if you haven't out yet)
2. limit dhcp range (dhcp is the tool that gives the pc 's ip adresses) for example
192.168.1.5 to 192.168.1.20 i'd advice you to start from 100 to some number depends on ammount of pc's in your network.
here it's for example 10.0.1.100 to 10.0.1.120 caus we have around 13 pc's around here (we always take some reserve)
3. give yourself a static ip. take 192.168.3 or something don't touch the router. (the ip adress must be out of the dhcp range)
4. now simply follow the portforward site
5. i geuss your firewalls is turned off huh?
Adeny
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway1233 Posts
May 31 2009 03:54 GMT
#34
"a Linksys router to be more specific"

Well there you have. Problem solved.
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
May 31 2009 04:47 GMT
#35
Thanks for the advice guys. I managed to get the host going with a dmz [im probably going to change to a static ip with your advice tomorrow], but oddly, when my ip changed [does about once a day] I can no longer host. I changed my dmz to my new ip, same process as before, but I cant host now. Totally inexplicable, totally random.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-03 00:59:08
August 03 2009 00:57 GMT
#36
I can fucking host again Wooooooooooooooooo.


Thanks to something in this thread, to be honest, I don't know even know what I did. But whatever I did, it worked. I can host games now. I think it really started to work when I disabled the windows firewall. So thanks everybody, this thread really helped me. Now I can actually play MOTW whenever I want. No more python! No more python!
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