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TriniMasta
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1323 Posts
August 13 2010 05:57 GMT
#241
OK THE SOLUTION IS TO JUST SET COMPATIBILITY to XP and check all the advanced settings:
Run in 256 Colors, disable visual themes (and all the rest).
정명훈 FIGHTING!!! Play both T and P.
darklordjac
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2231 Posts
August 13 2010 14:19 GMT
#242
Open up screen resolution and close every program thats not from the operating system itself. I find this fixes colours and stops crashes.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9530 Posts
August 14 2010 20:22 GMT
#243
If the only solution to crashing so far is Window Mode in Chaoslauncher, has anyone tried to contact its creator (XeNotRoN) and see if he can make it work for full screen as well?
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
micro7295
Profile Joined August 2010
United States68 Posts
August 14 2010 21:00 GMT
#244
On May 15 2009 19:54 lazz wrote:
what the hell is windows 7?


im...im not sure man...
an ultralisk, an ultralisk, my hive for an ultralisk
buhhy
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1113 Posts
August 14 2010 21:14 GMT
#245
On August 15 2010 05:22 2Pacalypse- wrote:
If the only solution to crashing so far is Window Mode in Chaoslauncher, has anyone tried to contact its creator (XeNotRoN) and see if he can make it work for full screen as well?


Or resizable, that would be pretty cool.
squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
November 16 2010 13:03 GMT
#246
Interesting idea's guys, i'll keep them in mind, especially the possibility its audiodg related.
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1976 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-16 13:14:04
November 16 2010 13:13 GMT
#247
I'm pretty sure I've found a solution.

Go into a game, open up the menu. From there, hit options -> video and uncheck Enable colour cycling. Saw it on a Korean website, it's worked for me for the past few weeks with no crashes. (64 bit Win7).
squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
November 16 2010 15:33 GMT
#248
its one of those coincidental fixes and nothing more.
Tomken
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway1144 Posts
November 29 2010 06:27 GMT
#249
On November 16 2010 22:13 Garrl wrote:
I'm pretty sure I've found a solution.

Go into a game, open up the menu. From there, hit options -> video and uncheck Enable colour cycling. Saw it on a Korean website, it's worked for me for the past few weeks with no crashes. (64 bit Win7).


This has worked for me so far \o\
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
November 29 2010 07:40 GMT
#250
Oh wow, this has been plaguing my 2v2s with my roommate for quite some time now. Thanks Garrl got to try this!
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Weeuweed
Profile Joined December 2010
112 Posts
December 06 2010 08:20 GMT
#251
So did the crashes/hangs stopped for the people trying disabling colour cycle option? gonna try this myself later
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9530 Posts
December 06 2010 12:21 GMT
#252
On December 06 2010 17:20 Weeuweed wrote:
So did the crashes/hangs stopped for the people trying disabling colour cycle option? gonna try this myself later

On November 17 2010 00:33 squall leonhart wrote:
its one of those coincidental fixes and nothing more.

Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
Pezsmapatkany
Profile Joined January 2009
Hungary25 Posts
December 06 2010 13:07 GMT
#253
i used win7-64 for few months, and it seemed, that crash happen when palette is changing. so disable color cycling stop crashes while u play, but it still crashed for me when entering lobby, starting game, etc, everywhere where the color palette changed
squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
December 06 2010 13:32 GMT
#254
On December 06 2010 17:20 Weeuweed wrote:
So did the crashes/hangs stopped for the people trying disabling colour cycle option? gonna try this myself later


no. usually when the freeze occurs there is no palette change occuring.
Vikkekh
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden47 Posts
December 06 2010 13:38 GMT
#255
I found that it wont freeze in windowed mode so that was my solution for it all.
You're crazier than me, have a key!
squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
December 06 2010 14:02 GMT
#256
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1054365/exclusive-directdraw-palette-isnt-actually-exclusive

We can (sometimes) detect when this happens by processing the WM_PALETTECHANGED message. A few update versions ago we added logging (just log the window title/class/process name), which helped users identify offending applications and close them. MSN Live Messenger was a common culprit.

The problem got worse when we found out that Windows Vista (and 7) does it "by itself". The WM_PALETTECHANGED parameters point towards CSRSS and the desktop window. In Vista, a workaround that often worked was to open any folder (Computer, Documents, etc.) and leave it open while running the game. Sounds ridiculous, but it worked - in most cases. In Windows 7, not even this workaround worked any more. Users found that stopping some services (Windows Update and the indexing service) also resolved the problem on some configurations.
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
December 06 2010 14:56 GMT
#257
On August 15 2010 05:22 2Pacalypse- wrote:
If the only solution to crashing so far is Window Mode in Chaoslauncher, has anyone tried to contact its creator (XeNotRoN) and see if he can make it work for full screen as well?


Does chaoslauncher actually fix crashing? I've tried so much different stuff right now that I've ended up dugging out my old desktop which I frankly haven't got space for, so if someone could actually confirm this to work you would make me most happy!
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9530 Posts
December 06 2010 15:41 GMT
#258
On December 06 2010 23:56 Ghostcom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2010 05:22 2Pacalypse- wrote:
If the only solution to crashing so far is Window Mode in Chaoslauncher, has anyone tried to contact its creator (XeNotRoN) and see if he can make it work for full screen as well?


Does chaoslauncher actually fix crashing? I've tried so much different stuff right now that I've ended up dugging out my old desktop which I frankly haven't got space for, so if someone could actually confirm this to work you would make me most happy!

It's not Chaoslauncher in itself, but a Window Mode plugin.

And yes, that is the only known fix for crashing problems so far. The bad side is that you can't play in fullscreen, but rather in a Window (takes some getting used to).
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
December 06 2010 15:42 GMT
#259
On December 06 2010 23:56 Ghostcom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2010 05:22 2Pacalypse- wrote:
If the only solution to crashing so far is Window Mode in Chaoslauncher, has anyone tried to contact its creator (XeNotRoN) and see if he can make it work for full screen as well?


Does chaoslauncher actually fix crashing? I've tried so much different stuff right now that I've ended up dugging out my old desktop which I frankly haven't got space for, so if someone could actually confirm this to work you would make me most happy!

Yes it does work (for iCCup launcher as well; it uses the same plugin by MoC).
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9530 Posts
December 06 2010 16:20 GMT
#260
On December 06 2010 23:02 squall leonhart wrote:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1054365/exclusive-directdraw-palette-isnt-actually-exclusive

Show nested quote +
We can (sometimes) detect when this happens by processing the WM_PALETTECHANGED message. A few update versions ago we added logging (just log the window title/class/process name), which helped users identify offending applications and close them. MSN Live Messenger was a common culprit.

The problem got worse when we found out that Windows Vista (and 7) does it "by itself". The WM_PALETTECHANGED parameters point towards CSRSS and the desktop window. In Vista, a workaround that often worked was to open any folder (Computer, Documents, etc.) and leave it open while running the game. Sounds ridiculous, but it worked - in most cases. In Windows 7, not even this workaround worked any more. Users found that stopping some services (Windows Update and the indexing service) also resolved the problem on some configurations.

Interesting, but wasn't that already fixed with a registry hack?
And how much is this connected to the freezing problem? It's apparent that other applications changing the palette while Starcraft is running would mess up it's colors, but I can't seem to understand how it could be connected to the freezing problem.

Also, from that link:
http://hifi.iki.fi/cnc-ddraw/ - Seems like someone else did the Direct Draw hack, but this time having C&C and Red Alert in mind -.- Anyone with an idea of how much does it apply to Starcraft, and what's the difference between already existing Direct Draw hack (http://sol.gfxile.net/ddhack/)?
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