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bitchaRd[raGe]
Profile Joined August 2008
Russian Federation376 Posts
May 15 2009 10:52 GMT
#1
There were some topics about messed up colors in StarCraft under windows 7.
But i have other problem. Starcraft just crashes in my machine. I can play 5 minutes or an hour, but it always crashed after some time, so i have to shut down my pc and reboot.

Does anyone have similar problem? How it can be solved? Please, help.
SKT1!
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
May 15 2009 10:54 GMT
#2
what the hell is windows 7?
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
May 15 2009 10:56 GMT
#3
On May 15 2009 19:54 lazz wrote:
what the hell is windows 7?

Have you been living under a rock?

Next OS after Vista

Although it's more of a Vista upgrade
POGGERS
hideo
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1641 Posts
May 15 2009 10:56 GMT
#4
bug report gogo!

it would suck if windows 7 was incompatible with brood war.
kaleidoscope
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore2887 Posts
May 15 2009 10:57 GMT
#5
On May 15 2009 19:54 lazz wrote:
what the hell is windows 7?


A new OS, to replace the failed vista..
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Kerotan
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
England2109 Posts
May 15 2009 10:58 GMT
#6
On May 15 2009 19:52 bitchaRd[raGe] wrote:
There were some topics about messed up colors in StarCraft under windows 7.
But i have other problem. Starcraft just crashes in my machine. I can play 5 minutes or an hour, but it always crashed after some time, so i have to shut down my pc and reboot.

Does anyone have similar problem? How it can be solved? Please, help.


Upgrading perhaps wasn't your smartest move.

My advice, downgrade XP/Vista
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FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
May 15 2009 10:59 GMT
#7
On May 15 2009 19:57 kaleidoscope wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2009 19:54 lazz wrote:
what the hell is windows 7?


A new OS, to replace the failed vista..


The only feedback I've got from people who already got that on their PC's is that it's crap and nothing seems to work on it.

My one and only love remains Windows XP.

Oh and sorry for derailing, but I can't really help you. Best advice I have is to get XP as a second OS.
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bitchaRd[raGe]
Profile Joined August 2008
Russian Federation376 Posts
May 15 2009 11:10 GMT
#8
I start Starcraft with Windows XP compatibility settings, setting up all the tips there (256 colors, 640x480, disabling all features, etc). Starcraft starts ok, i join iccup or west, can create and join games, everything is ok, even colors are ok. But when i play, in the game, all system crashes and i can't even reboot, or alt+tab, or ctrl+alt+del. It just stops everything. All i can do is to switch off my computer and then switch on.

I can't set up XP because there are only Vista drivers to my graphics card. I have laptop, and this card doesn't support XP
SKT1!
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9374 Posts
May 15 2009 11:13 GMT
#9
On May 15 2009 19:59 FirstBorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2009 19:57 kaleidoscope wrote:
On May 15 2009 19:54 lazz wrote:
what the hell is windows 7?


A new OS, to replace the failed vista..


The only feedback I've got from people who already got that on their PC's is that it's crap and nothing seems to work on it.

My one and only love remains Windows XP.

Oh and sorry for derailing, but I can't really help you. Best advice I have is to get XP as a second OS.


I've gotten the exact opposite actually.

Most of the geeky nerds that have installed it in their comps, have said that it's faster and it's filled with good new features. Also, since the last release it's just as Release Candidate, I wouldn't expect things to work all the time.
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imRadu
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
1798 Posts
May 15 2009 11:19 GMT
#10
On May 15 2009 20:10 bitchaRd[raGe] wrote:
I start Starcraft with Windows XP compatibility settings, setting up all the tips there (256 colors, 640x480, disabling all features, etc). Starcraft starts ok, i join iccup or west, can create and join games, everything is ok, even colors are ok. But when i play, in the game, all system crashes and i can't even reboot, or alt+tab, or ctrl+alt+del. It just stops everything. All i can do is to switch off my computer and then switch on.

I can't set up XP because there are only Vista drivers to my graphics card. I have laptop, and this card doesn't support XP


And your GFX Card is what?
Its really good to see that some people dont let education get in the way of their ignorance
bitchaRd[raGe]
Profile Joined August 2008
Russian Federation376 Posts
May 15 2009 11:22 GMT
#11
On May 15 2009 20:19 imRadu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2009 20:10 bitchaRd[raGe] wrote:
I start Starcraft with Windows XP compatibility settings, setting up all the tips there (256 colors, 640x480, disabling all features, etc). Starcraft starts ok, i join iccup or west, can create and join games, everything is ok, even colors are ok. But when i play, in the game, all system crashes and i can't even reboot, or alt+tab, or ctrl+alt+del. It just stops everything. All i can do is to switch off my computer and then switch on.

I can't set up XP because there are only Vista drivers to my graphics card. I have laptop, and this card doesn't support XP


And your GFX Card is what?


Geforce 9500M GS.
I googled some pirate drivers, but afaik officialy it doesn't support XP. Anyways, i though, if it will be some way to play Starcraft under Windows 7, cause it looks great, and this bug is its only weakness.
SKT1!
Ash
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Malaysia1978 Posts
May 15 2009 11:23 GMT
#12
On May 15 2009 20:10 bitchaRd[raGe] wrote:
I start Starcraft with Windows XP compatibility settings, setting up all the tips there (256 colors, 640x480, disabling all features, etc). Starcraft starts ok, i join iccup or west, can create and join games, everything is ok, even colors are ok. But when i play, in the game, all system crashes and i can't even reboot, or alt+tab, or ctrl+alt+del. It just stops everything. All i can do is to switch off my computer and then switch on.

I can't set up XP because there are only Vista drivers to my graphics card. I have laptop, and this card doesn't support XP


would you mind to share the exact settings you're using on windows 7 for BW? Because I've done the same as you, changing to 256 colours disablingall the features and etc but still the colours are so fucked up when I launch BW. That alone has turned me off to try out the so-called one of the most promising windows to be launched.
imRadu
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
1798 Posts
May 15 2009 11:31 GMT
#13
On May 15 2009 20:22 bitchaRd[raGe] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2009 20:19 imRadu wrote:
On May 15 2009 20:10 bitchaRd[raGe] wrote:
I start Starcraft with Windows XP compatibility settings, setting up all the tips there (256 colors, 640x480, disabling all features, etc). Starcraft starts ok, i join iccup or west, can create and join games, everything is ok, even colors are ok. But when i play, in the game, all system crashes and i can't even reboot, or alt+tab, or ctrl+alt+del. It just stops everything. All i can do is to switch off my computer and then switch on.

I can't set up XP because there are only Vista drivers to my graphics card. I have laptop, and this card doesn't support XP


And your GFX Card is what?


Geforce 9500M GS.
I googled some pirate drivers, but afaik officialy it doesn't support XP. Anyways, i though, if it will be some way to play Starcraft under Windows 7, cause it looks great, and this bug is its only weakness.

if you say so...
http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_notebook_winxp_185.85_whql.html

Its really good to see that some people dont let education get in the way of their ignorance
Mr.Pyro
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Denmark959 Posts
May 15 2009 11:33 GMT
#14
On May 15 2009 20:23 Ash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2009 20:10 bitchaRd[raGe] wrote:
I start Starcraft with Windows XP compatibility settings, setting up all the tips there (256 colors, 640x480, disabling all features, etc). Starcraft starts ok, i join iccup or west, can create and join games, everything is ok, even colors are ok. But when i play, in the game, all system crashes and i can't even reboot, or alt+tab, or ctrl+alt+del. It just stops everything. All i can do is to switch off my computer and then switch on.

I can't set up XP because there are only Vista drivers to my graphics card. I have laptop, and this card doesn't support XP


would you mind to share the exact settings you're using on windows 7 for BW? Because I've done the same as you, changing to 256 colours disablingall the features and etc but still the colours are so fucked up when I launch BW. That alone has turned me off to try out the so-called one of the most promising windows to be launched.


Open the screen resolution window and let it stay open when you launch BW.

To avoid crashes you might want to shut certaint things down, as some processes seem to conflict with the old old engine of SC.
So shut down Winamp, and various other things that may use your wave output - such as flash videos in your browser or other flash content.
Also, Chrome fucks it up big time.
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notrangerjoe
Profile Joined May 2009
110 Posts
May 15 2009 23:51 GMT
#15
There is a bug in Windows 7 with an old draw mechanism. I don't remember the exact details, but I do remember it occasionally will mishandle a piece of memory (not properly locking it beforehand IIRC). My father works at Microsoft and has been trying to figure out what it is/get the bug team to fix it by release.

Unfortunately the only away around it is to not run Starcraft in Windows 7. Either by playing through a VM or dual booting with XP.
bitchaRd[raGe]
Profile Joined August 2008
Russian Federation376 Posts
May 16 2009 13:28 GMT
#16
I set Win XP under VirtualBox, and everything seems ok, bw doesn't crash anymore. But in runs in a small window, not in fullscreen, even if i start virtual machine in fullscreen, starcraft isn't stretched but runs in x1 size (640x480) in a center of screen.
Don't know how to deal with it.
SKT1!
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
May 16 2009 13:41 GMT
#17
Id be very suprised if someone knew what to do =P after all its a new problem
MasterOfChaos
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Germany2896 Posts
May 16 2009 13:45 GMT
#18
Try using XP-Mode:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2009/Apr09/04-28Win7QA.mspx
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bitchaRd[raGe]
Profile Joined August 2008
Russian Federation376 Posts
May 16 2009 16:46 GMT
#19
On May 16 2009 22:45 MasterOfChaos wrote:
Try using XP-Mode:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2009/Apr09/04-28Win7QA.mspx


Just tried and set Virtual Machine with Virtual Windows XP.
And Starcraft doesn't run there at all! Error with video resolution, can't set 640x480 256 colors.
So bad
SKT1!
cava
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States1035 Posts
May 16 2009 17:39 GMT
#20
I hope windows 7 is a success. I always thought Vista got a bad rap for no reason. After serice pack 1 vista became solid as a rock. I build this computer in January with windows vista x64 and it has yet to crash on me, or fail to be able to run a program. If windows 7 is an improvement it will be an awesome OS.
cava!
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
May 16 2009 17:55 GMT
#21
On May 17 2009 02:39 cava wrote:
I hope windows 7 is a success. I always thought Vista got a bad rap for no reason. After serice pack 1 vista became solid as a rock. I build this computer in January with windows vista x64 and it has yet to crash on me, or fail to be able to run a program. If windows 7 is an improvement it will be an awesome OS.

please send me this magical vista.

but to be honest, after the first service pack, it has greatly improved. it doesn't really crash (as long as you don't fuck around with it too much )

i have windows 7 installed on a partition, but i have yet to use it. (too lazy to redownload all my programs and such lol. leaving it for the summer)
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
iheartgna
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States184 Posts
May 16 2009 18:05 GMT
#22
On May 17 2009 02:55 da_head wrote:
i have windows 7 installed on a partition, but i have yet to use it. (too lazy to redownload all my programs and such lol. leaving it for the summer)


If you have vista, you can upgrade and you won't lose any of your programs. If you use xp you don't have an upgrade option, but when you delete the old xp partiton during a win7 reformat it will keep the contents of certain folders, notably the Program Files folder, and move it to C:/Windows.old in win7. I put all my music+movies etc into program files before I reformatted and everything works perfectly.

On topic: I have the same problem but my sc seems to be a bit more stable; I haven't suffered a crash within ~1 hour yet
Hell is other people.
Mah Buckit!
Profile Joined April 2009
Finland474 Posts
May 16 2009 18:33 GMT
#23
Windows 7 works nicely, except the crashing downs about ones a week, but thats understandable ´cos it is beta.

However Broodwar did crash down on me every now and then when playing on fullscreen once i started playing in window mode nothing has happened so far.
Starcraft? Epic Grimness.
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-16 19:09:59
May 16 2009 19:09 GMT
#24
I have a friend who runs SC on Windows 7 beta fine.
wingedpts
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada19 Posts
May 16 2009 22:53 GMT
#25
im running BW on windows 7 ultimate 64-bit, i had the same problem as you before when i was on build 7048 regardless of the compatibility setting but when i switched to 7100 and used Windows XP (SP3) compatibility it hasn't crashed since.
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
May 16 2009 22:54 GMT
#26
On May 17 2009 03:05 iheartgna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2009 02:55 da_head wrote:
i have windows 7 installed on a partition, but i have yet to use it. (too lazy to redownload all my programs and such lol. leaving it for the summer)


If you have vista, you can upgrade and you won't lose any of your programs. If you use xp you don't have an upgrade option, but when you delete the old xp partiton during a win7 reformat it will keep the contents of certain folders, notably the Program Files folder, and move it to C:/Windows.old in win7. I put all my music+movies etc into program files before I reformatted and everything works perfectly.

On topic: I have the same problem but my sc seems to be a bit more stable; I haven't suffered a crash within ~1 hour yet

umm, what happens when windows 7 rc expires? (and no i'm not planning to purchase it )
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mainerd
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States347 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-16 23:19:04
May 16 2009 23:18 GMT
#27
If you have a multi core processor you might want to try setting the affinity under the task manager to just 1 processor for starcraft (rightclick the process, choose set affinity). I have to do this every time i run SC with my quad core or it will randomly lock my computer up... I use Vista 64 Ultimate, not sure about windows 7.
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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
May 16 2009 23:21 GMT
#28
On May 15 2009 19:56 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2009 19:54 lazz wrote:
what the hell is windows 7?

Have you been living under a rock?

Next OS after Vista

Although it's more of a Vista upgrade

id say XP++ rather than vista+
errol1001
Profile Joined April 2008
454 Posts
May 16 2009 23:57 GMT
#29
On May 17 2009 08:21 Raithed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2009 19:56 konadora wrote:
On May 15 2009 19:54 lazz wrote:
what the hell is windows 7?

Have you been living under a rock?

Next OS after Vista

Although it's more of a Vista upgrade

id say XP++ rather than vista+


It's definitely more of a vista upgrade.
bitchaRd[raGe]
Profile Joined August 2008
Russian Federation376 Posts
May 19 2009 12:40 GMT
#30
On May 17 2009 08:18 mainerd wrote:
If you have a multi core processor you might want to try setting the affinity under the task manager to just 1 processor for starcraft (rightclick the process, choose set affinity). I have to do this every time i run SC with my quad core or it will randomly lock my computer up... I use Vista 64 Ultimate, not sure about windows 7.


Thanks alot, mainerd! It works!
Thank you very much!
SKT1!
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
May 19 2009 14:03 GMT
#31
People badmouthing Windows 7 should seriously stop listening to their Vista-friends and try it out yourselves.

I personally can't or never could stand the condecending menace that is Windows Vista (dedicated XP user for over half a decade), but find the Windows 7 beta to (despite its current beta-stage-flaws) be far far above and beyond Vista.
Oh and the ones saying Windows 7 is just an updated version of Vista. Please. Has any OS sequel ever been completely unique in every feature? No.
I'd say Windows 7 is further from Vista than Vista was from XP.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-19 14:16:50
May 19 2009 14:13 GMT
#32
On May 15 2009 19:54 lazz wrote:
what the hell is windows 7?

A rebranding of Vista. It's basically the same thing, only better all around because the new 'release date' was later on and many of the original problems with Vista were smoothed out. So just a newer Vista build with a different name.

EDIT: This does not mean Windows 7 is bad. Vista was awful at launch time, but it's gotten much better over time. I still like to poke fun at Vista, but it's not strictly inferior to XP anymore- it's a bigger resource hog, it's prettier, it's got better security, and it has a 64-bit version.
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Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
May 19 2009 14:14 GMT
#33
On May 17 2009 08:21 Raithed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2009 19:56 konadora wrote:
On May 15 2009 19:54 lazz wrote:
what the hell is windows 7?

Have you been living under a rock?

Next OS after Vista

Although it's more of a Vista upgrade

id say XP++ rather than vista+


Why is that?
snorlax
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States755 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-19 14:16:49
May 19 2009 14:16 GMT
#34
hmm ill ask my friends dad hes the main dev for it =]

Edit: ya I got all the parental connections jealous?
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
May 23 2009 05:37 GMT
#35
im on 7 right now and am really liking it.

and had no problems with starcraft whatsoever. didn't even have to set the affinity (annoying as hell) or run as administrator (also annoying) like i had to in vista.

loving 7!

although the messed up colors thing happens in the menu 100% of the time but i am sooo used to that it dosent bother me. its stops when is tart a game so no biggie.
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pzea469
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1520 Posts
May 23 2009 06:06 GMT
#36
I got windows 7, I LOVE IT

no problems with broodwar, works perfect for me.
Kill the Deathball
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
May 23 2009 06:13 GMT
#37
Bw has never crashed once on windows 7 for me
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
May 23 2009 06:26 GMT
#38
If you're playing on a quad core, hit ctrl alt delete, go to starcraft and right click, hit set affinity. Uncheck everything but CPU 0.

I have win 7 and other than this problem which is specific to quad cores as opposed to windows 7 (had it happen on xp as well) i don't have any crashing with bw.
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silverleaftree
Profile Joined April 2007
20 Posts
May 24 2009 00:40 GMT
#39
Just as expected, teamliquid is at the forefront of starcraft support. This fixed my windows 7//quad-core problem! thanks guys!
bitchaRd[raGe]
Profile Joined August 2008
Russian Federation376 Posts
June 23 2009 17:36 GMT
#40
People who have no problems with bw under win7, what build do you use?
SKT1!
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 23 2009 17:41 GMT
#41
win7 isn't bad, but XP is just too awesome to get rid of it.
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mucker
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1120 Posts
June 23 2009 17:52 GMT
#42
i had a similar problem, went away when i updated my wireless ethernet drivers.
It's supposed to be automatic but actually you have to press this button.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
June 23 2009 18:20 GMT
#43
My SC crashes after every game on Vista 64 bit. Is your computer 64 bit?
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T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
June 23 2009 18:25 GMT
#44
Does Lan Latency work in Windows 7? I noticed that there is a higher latency when I play on Windows 7 compared to Windows Vista when I games on ICCUP.

I'm comparing Windows 7 (64 bit) vs. Windows Vista (32 bit) on the same computer.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Fr33t
Profile Joined June 2008
United States1128 Posts
June 23 2009 18:29 GMT
#45
People still use XP? Daaaamn, hahaha

I didn't notice any higher latency either on my 7(x64) install though when playing on ICCUP. Does it happen all the time or occasionally?
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Amarxist
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States371 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-23 18:53:43
June 23 2009 18:53 GMT
#46
I got W7 RC x64 (64-bit) been using since build 7055 and everything has so far worked with it just fine. Some things require more effort to get working but it runs great overall. SC for me seems to run flawlessly, no issues at all.

Other then that, i'm really loving W7 and the 64-bit perks. Its much better then XP is imo.
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ChoboOv
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada126 Posts
June 23 2009 19:02 GMT
#47
You need to install the VBOXADDIONS addon for Virtual Box to run full screen.

Do a quick search on google to get VirtualBox to run in full screen mode.
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
June 23 2009 19:19 GMT
#48
On June 24 2009 03:29 Fr33t wrote:
People still use XP? Daaaamn, hahaha

I didn't notice any higher latency either on my 7(x64) install though when playing on ICCUP. Does it happen all the time or occasionally?

It happens all the time. I noticed that starcraft runs much smoother in Vista, I'm guessing it's a Lan Lantency problem but I'm really not sure what is the source of the problem.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
PrincessLeila
Profile Joined October 2004
France170 Posts
June 23 2009 19:55 GMT
#49
On May 15 2009 20:13 funkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2009 19:59 FirstBorn wrote:
On May 15 2009 19:57 kaleidoscope wrote:
On May 15 2009 19:54 lazz wrote:
what the hell is windows 7?


A new OS, to replace the failed vista..


The only feedback I've got from people who already got that on their PC's is that it's crap and nothing seems to work on it.

My one and only love remains Windows XP.

Oh and sorry for derailing, but I can't really help you. Best advice I have is to get XP as a second OS.


I've gotten the exact opposite actually.

Most of the geeky nerds that have installed it in their comps, have said that it's faster and it's filled with good new features. Also, since the last release it's just as Release Candidate, I wouldn't expect things to work all the time.


Wanting to know if M$ is going to launch another Failure OS make me a geeky nerds ?? Well, actually, i am, but i can imagine people that try the new OS, like it, and keep it, without being geeky nerds...

By the way, i got not any problems with win7 RC, the installation is extremly easy (for a geeky nerd maybe) : You are in XP, you download the win7RC_setup_blablabla.exe, launch it, wait, wait, and ... that's it. You dont have to create a new partition, since the install back up your old system in windows.old folder, and let u choose at the boot wich system u want to use. If you select 'earlier version of windows', you boot XP, like you never installed win7. I dont understand why people are trying to install from bootable DVD, or bootable USB key...

Back to the topic, i must say that i actually had some problems : SC runs fine (exept some color bugs), but my CC is an ellipse, the nvidia driver 'use fixed aspect ratio' option dont work... That's annoying. Some other old games dont want to launch (Collin McRae 2 TT).

2 things that changed my life :

- the home network works !!!!!! Still can't believe this! I configured nothing, exept the password! What happened to MS ? I can share files of several Go, without having the usuall random 'the network location blablabla is no longer available'. I've never been able to share media over the home network, but it now works. I can watch movies from another PC!! (ok maybe it was possible on XP if you aren't a LAN noob, but it was not easy... For me it always have been a total failure, the video hangs after 10 seconds).

- the search box when you use the "start menu". Ok it was added in vista, but since i uninstalled Vista after the 10th BSOD, i am new to this! Now that the system is stable (i am waiting to see my first BSOD on win7), i find it great, and i can't stand the XP start menu anymore : if you don't maintain a 'quick launch links folder', your lost between 'Sierra interactive', 'Microprose', 'XXXXX Ltd', 'another random company name', etc. when you just remember the name of the application...

- second second thing : windows after windows, the windows explorer slowly becomes "efficient": you can go wherever you want in few clicks...

- And they upgraded mspaint!!!!! So it keeps being the ultimate graphic application it would have been 15 years ago. I already miss the XP one.

However, win7 is not as fast as some said. For me, my fresh win7 install is as fast as my old XP, who is 5 years old, with tons of crappy programs installed (exept for the boot time : about 45 sec vs 1min50).

Come on geeky nerds, you must try it : it is free and you can boot your earlier XP whenever you want. And then you could say 'My win7 blablabla...' instead of 'I heard win7 blablabla...'



wonnage
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States40 Posts
July 02 2009 04:09 GMT
#50
Hey you dumb bitch read his post and then write your page long diatribe on shit nobody cares about
stroggos
Profile Joined February 2009
New Zealand1543 Posts
July 02 2009 04:18 GMT
#51
On May 15 2009 19:57 kaleidoscope wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2009 19:54 lazz wrote:
what the hell is windows 7?


A new OS, to replace the failed vista..


hopefully this failure will be a little better than the last failure.
hi
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 02 2009 04:21 GMT
#52
On July 02 2009 13:18 stroggos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2009 19:57 kaleidoscope wrote:
On May 15 2009 19:54 lazz wrote:
what the hell is windows 7?


A new OS, to replace the failed vista..


hopefully this failure will be a little better than the last failure.


god i hope
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
July 02 2009 04:34 GMT
#53
I dont understand all the Vista hate. It works perfectly fine for me.
MK
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States496 Posts
July 02 2009 05:56 GMT
#54
I'm using 7RC and SC:BW works well :/
The highest knowledge is to know that we are surrounded by mystery
bitchaRd[raGe]
Profile Joined August 2008
Russian Federation376 Posts
July 24 2009 06:10 GMT
#55
Hello, it's me again bumping this theme.

I installed Windows 7 Build 7600 RTM a few days ago and i have no starcraft crash anymore. But i have another problem now - it lags like hell even in single player. Screen scrolling and unit movement are slow. I tried compatibility mode and some other feature, but didn't get any effect.

Please, can you help me now? Thanks.
SKT1!
KingofHearts
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Japan562 Posts
July 24 2009 06:26 GMT
#56
you can try emailling blizzard for tech support.
moshi moshi~
Everywhere
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States97 Posts
July 24 2009 07:10 GMT
#57
I'm using Windows 7 64-Bit (Build 7229) and BW runs great. Used Build 7000 previously and had no problems with that either.
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
July 24 2009 07:21 GMT
#58
On June 24 2009 03:29 Fr33t wrote:
People still use XP? Daaaamn, hahaha


I do. I don't like Vista and I've yet to try windows 7.
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
sh00zkosmosu
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland16 Posts
October 07 2009 15:03 GMT
#59
Bw keeps crashing in my win 7 build 7600 x64. I'm out of options
Tried to set affinity, newwest graphics drivers, killing explorer.exe to fix colors (which works, but sc keeps crashing).
The only tip i got is - when i reboot my comp and open sc it will almost never crash, and i can play as long as i want, but if comp is running for couple of hours and i open sc it will almost surely darken a little bit and that's it - only hard reset works.
It is really troublesome, do anybody got similar problem?
Hangups are random - sometimes on loading screen, sometimes after 30s of first game.

Windows 7.7600 x64
Geforce 9800 GT
AMD Athlon x64 Dual Core 3600+ 2.0 GHz
2 Gb DDR2 800 Mhz
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
October 07 2009 15:06 GMT
#60
sc crashed for me sometimes, but setting the affinity to one core does the trick.
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
disco
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Netherlands1667 Posts
October 07 2009 15:24 GMT
#61
I've had the same problem. I'm concidering installing Vista on the side to play SC. I also stream my games from time to time but that's basically asking for a PC freeze. Happens 99% of the time when I stream.
this game is a fucking jokie
Postaldude
Profile Joined September 2009
Sweden180 Posts
October 08 2009 08:29 GMT
#62
On October 08 2009 00:24 disco wrote:
I've had the same problem. I'm concidering installing Vista on the side to play SC. I also stream my games from time to time but that's basically asking for a PC freeze. Happens 99% of the time when I stream.



dont install vista, install W7 if anything
You must construct additional pylons
disco
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Netherlands1667 Posts
October 08 2009 08:43 GMT
#63
On October 08 2009 17:29 Postaldude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2009 00:24 disco wrote:
I've had the same problem. I'm concidering installing Vista on the side to play SC. I also stream my games from time to time but that's basically asking for a PC freeze. Happens 99% of the time when I stream.



dont install vista, install W7 if anything


Well, that's what I've got and its causing me problems. Although yesterday I updated my graphics drivers and I managed to stream without issues.
this game is a fucking jokie
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
October 08 2009 08:59 GMT
#64
All I need to to is quit Winamp or whatever might be using DirectSound. I also open the screen settings window, but that's only to partially fix the menus and has nothing to do with ingame graphics. For me, it's not necessary to set affinity to one core. No crashes.
Xaanix
Profile Joined October 2009
United States109 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-21 04:46:34
October 21 2009 04:46 GMT
#65
Just installed Windows 7 64bit (retail) (upgrade from vista 64) and BW was freezing on me... would happen after about 5 minutes.. after freezing 3 times I searched the net and found the Affinity fix here. Definately works. I still have the discoloration however and wasnt able to solve this with compatibility settings or anything... Still, just glad i can play. SC was the game i was most worried about.

Thanks!
Xaanix
our deeds have traveled far what we have been is what we are - Dream Theater - SFAM
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
October 21 2009 05:01 GMT
#66
On October 21 2009 13:46 Xaanix wrote:
Just installed Windows 7 64bit (retail) (upgrade from vista 64) and BW was freezing on me... would happen after about 5 minutes.. after freezing 3 times I searched the net and found the Affinity fix here. Definately works. I still have the discoloration however and wasnt able to solve this with compatibility settings or anything... Still, just glad i can play. SC was the game i was most worried about.

Thanks!
Xaanix


the discoloration is fixed by killing the explorer process before you run SC, theres a thread somewhere here on teamliquid on that!
Xaanix
Profile Joined October 2009
United States109 Posts
October 21 2009 20:33 GMT
#67
Hrm, doesnt that process auto restart? And isnt it a bit difficult to run starcraft when the explorer process is dead? (doesnt this close all filesystem windows?)
our deeds have traveled far what we have been is what we are - Dream Theater - SFAM
Xaanix
Profile Joined October 2009
United States109 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-22 00:41:01
October 22 2009 00:40 GMT
#68
Ok, I found the batch script and tested it out, it does indeed fix the color issue! (none of the compatability or color mode settings worked, leaving resolution window open also didnt work, but this did!)

the batch script basically restarts the explorer process as part of the script, the OS does not restart it automatically. Killing explorer doesnt stop any existing programs, and you can still alt-tab between programs you have open, so basically what happens is that you run the script after you've already started broodwar, and then alt tab into broodwar and all the colors are fixed. This obviously works regardless of whether you use the ICCUP launcher or not.

These are the commands for the script, just create a .bat file and paste in the contents below:


@ECHO OFF
ECHO Starcraft for Windows 7
ECHO _____ __ ______
ECHO / ___// /_____ ____________________ _/ __/ /_
ECHO \__ \/ __/ __ `/ ___/ ___/ ___/ __ `/ /_/ __/
ECHO ___/ / /_/ /_/ / / / /__/ / / /_/ / __/ /_
ECHO /____/\__/\__,_/_/ \___/_/ \__,_/_/ \__/
taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
PAUSE
Start explorer.exe

our deeds have traveled far what we have been is what we are - Dream Theater - SFAM
2lame
Profile Joined October 2009
Bulgaria3 Posts
October 28 2009 09:57 GMT
#69
OK, think i have a solution for the freezing which is only remotely related to CPU core affinities and such, but i still have to test it out and report back with results..

So, the Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation as they call the audiodg.exe process on Win7, is the thing used by 3rd party audio hardware manufacturers to put in stuff for their audio drivers, and at the same time not break windows apart (that's the reason audiodg is not included in svchost). My system setup is equipped with an embedded Realtek HD audio device, and by consequence, i'm using Realtek drivers which i update on regular basis. I'm using Windows 7 RC1, from around the time it was available to test from MS (several months ago).
While on Win7 at that time, Realtek had come up with a series of drivers, which had one thing in common - on a random period of time, the audiodg.exe process would take up 100% of one of my cores (i use a quadcore, and audiodg is a sigle core application) - this is when using audio - like playing Winamp, waching a movie, playing games. Then it would stop harassing my core after some minutes or longer, or when i stop outputting audio from the soundcard. This did not bother me much as it irritated me, cause like i said i use a quad core and this means only 25% of my cpu were taken. At that time i had stopped playing SC due to problems with color inversion, to which i find solution here at TeamLiquid a few days ago :D Thanks a bunch for that!!!

Meanwhile, Realtek had released a driver, which removed this bug with audiodg. Recently however, new drivers appeared and as strict about drivers as i am, i immediately decided to go for it and apply them - new drivers could only make things better, right?
Guess what happened - the audiodg bug appeared again. This time however i had already started playing SC after fixing discoloration problems, and my machine hung during several games, which had me searching all over the net for a fix (including the affinity fix in this thread).

This morning it hit me - could it be possible for audiodg to bug itself out right during the middle of a game and on top of that, on the same Core, on which my SC was running, resulting in taking up all CPU resource out of the game? Could that be leading to some confusion in windows core management and a total system hang? It it possible, but not yet proven. I am going to add here, that i have the SC music turned on during gameplay, and all sounds on, included. My roommate, with whom i play, did not have any hangs whatsoever until now, and guess, he uses an older Realtek driver on Win7, which i presume had this audiodg problem removed...

So, will make a few tests and maybe a driver rollback, and report back to you on results. Apologies for the long post if someone feels irritated by it, i am just trying to give a hand to all faithful SC players on the new Win

p.s.: you could try and help me out with testing, by monitoring your audiodg process while playin winamp for instance, or by playing SC with sound off. For those who use Realtek HD Audio soundcard - the triver i'm currently with: Vista_Win7_R235, and the driver of my roommate: Vista_Win7_R234 - feel free to test and report back here or on PM
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-28 10:16:23
October 28 2009 10:08 GMT
#70
On October 28 2009 18:57 2lame wrote:
OK, think i have a solution for the freezing which is only remotely related to CPU core affinities and such, but i still have to test it out and report back with results..

So, the Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation as they call the audiodg.exe process on Win7, is the thing used by 3rd party audio hardware manufacturers to put in stuff for their audio drivers, and at the same time not break windows apart (that's the reason audiodg is not included in svchost). My system setup is equipped with an embedded Realtek HD audio device, and by consequence, i'm using Realtek drivers which i update on regular basis. I'm using Windows 7 RC1, from around the time it was available to test from MS (several months ago).
While on Win7 at that time, Realtek had come up with a series of drivers, which had one thing in common - on a random period of time, the audiodg.exe process would take up 100% of one of my cores (i use a quadcore, and audiodg is a sigle core application) - this is when using audio - like playing Winamp, waching a movie, playing games. Then it would stop harassing my core after some minutes or longer, or when i stop outputting audio from the soundcard. This did not bother me much as it irritated me, cause like i said i use a quad core and this means only 25% of my cpu were taken. At that time i had stopped playing SC due to problems with color inversion, to which i find solution here at TeamLiquid a few days ago :D Thanks a bunch for that!!!

Meanwhile, Realtek had released a driver, which removed this bug with audiodg. Recently however, new drivers appeared and as strict about drivers as i am, i immediately decided to go for it and apply them - new drivers could only make things better, right?
Guess what happened - the audiodg bug appeared again. This time however i had already started playing SC after fixing discoloration problems, and my machine hung during several games, which had me searching all over the net for a fix (including the affinity fix in this thread).

This morning it hit me - could it be possible for audiodg to bug itself out right during the middle of a game and on top of that, on the same Core, on which my SC was running, resulting in taking up all CPU resource out of the game? Could that be leading to some confusion in windows core management and a total system hang? It it possible, but not yet proven. I am going to add here, that i have the SC music turned on during gameplay, and all sounds on, included. My roommate, with whom i play, did not have any hangs whatsoever until now, and guess, he uses an older Realtek driver on Win7, which i presume had this audiodg problem removed...

So, will make a few tests and maybe a driver rollback, and report back to you on results. Apologies for the long post if someone feels irritated by it, i am just trying to give a hand to all faithful SC players on the new Win

p.s.: you could try and help me out with testing, by monitoring your audiodg process while playin winamp for instance, or by playing SC with sound off. For those who use Realtek HD Audio soundcard - the triver i'm currently with: Vista_Win7_R235, and the driver of my roommate: Vista_Win7_R234 - feel free to test and report back here or on PM


I'm currently experiencing this issue too on my computer, only it happens in basically all games. Turning off system sounds seemed to significantly reduce the amount of freezes, but I'm still waiting for a 100% fix. Now for some reason I can't even use the newest Realtek drivers because I get really bad sound (it's fuzzy and there's lots of static and crackles). The older drivers (I'm using 1.97) have good sound but I get the freezes.

This is strange because my other computer (desktop) has a realtek card as well and can use the latest drivers with no problems. This computer never gets the freezes nor the sound problems. However under the driver's manufacturer it says "Microsoft" instead of "Realtek". That is the only difference that I'm aware of, even though both computers have Realtek sound cards.

edit: the driver version on my desktop (the fully working computer) is 6.1.7600.16385 in device manager. I believe this is R2.34 but I'm not sure.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
2lame
Profile Joined October 2009
Bulgaria3 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-28 10:48:31
October 28 2009 10:26 GMT
#71
edit: the driver version on my desktop (the fully working computer) is 6.1.7600.16385 in device manager. I believe this is R2.34 but I'm not sure.


I actually believe that this is your Windows 7 version right there, not the Realtek driver (in this case Win7 RTM final version). You can check the Realtek version if you go to the Realtek HD Audio Manager, and click on the "i" information button on the right hand corner. My driver version is 6.0.1.5953 (R2.35 installer). My roommates' is: 6.0.1.5943 (R2.34 installer)

That about the Manufacturer is interesting, I have Realtek as such, not MS, my roomate also has Realtek on his device manager audio manufacturer..
DM20
Profile Joined September 2008
Canada544 Posts
October 28 2009 10:37 GMT
#72
Windows 7 crashing broodwar, not my idea.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-28 10:49:47
October 28 2009 10:45 GMT
#73
Actually I can't find the Realtek HD Audio Manager on my desktop. It's not in the systray and the search bar gives nothing. Very strange, because I know that the card is a Realtek card and it had the icon when I was using XP.

I installed this driver using win7's automatic installation. When I try the same thing on the laptop, I get the "realtek" version and the sound is messed up. Very confusing

The driver I am using on my laptop is 6.0.1.5653, as said before it's 1.97
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
DeSu
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Australia91 Posts
October 28 2009 10:53 GMT
#74
i friend of mine said he had the same problem, except it was on an old win 95 at his grandparent's house.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
October 28 2009 12:20 GMT
#75
for me it's buggy on Vista too...
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
WhuazGoodJaggah
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Lesotho777 Posts
October 28 2009 12:46 GMT
#76
On October 22 2009 09:40 Xaanix wrote:
Ok, I found the batch script and tested it out, it does indeed fix the color issue! (none of the compatability or color mode settings worked, leaving resolution window open also didnt work, but this did!)

the batch script basically restarts the explorer process as part of the script, the OS does not restart it automatically. Killing explorer doesnt stop any existing programs, and you can still alt-tab between programs you have open, so basically what happens is that you run the script after you've already started broodwar, and then alt tab into broodwar and all the colors are fixed. This obviously works regardless of whether you use the ICCUP launcher or not.

These are the commands for the script, just create a .bat file and paste in the contents below:


@ECHO OFF
ECHO Starcraft for Windows 7
ECHO _____ __ ______
ECHO / ___// /_____ ____________________ _/ __/ /_
ECHO \__ \/ __/ __ `/ ___/ ___/ ___/ __ `/ /_/ __/
ECHO ___/ / /_/ /_/ / / / /__/ / / /_/ / __/ /_
ECHO /____/\__/\__,_/_/ \___/_/ \__,_/_/ \__/
taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
PAUSE
Start explorer.exe



for nice formatting so your ascii art wont break ;D

@ECHO OFF
ECHO Starcraft for Windows 7
ECHO _____ __ ______
ECHO / ___// /_____ ____________________ _/ __/ /_
ECHO \__ \/ __/ __ `/ ___/ ___/ ___/ __ `/ /_/ __/
ECHO ___/ / /_/ /_/ / / / /__/ / / /_/ / __/ /_
ECHO /____/\__/\__,_/_/ \___/_/ \__,_/_/ \__/
taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
PAUSE
Start explorer.exe

small dicks have great firepower
2lame
Profile Joined October 2009
Bulgaria3 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-28 13:16:18
October 28 2009 13:13 GMT
#77
Ok... so far i've rolled back on the old Realtek driver, and made a few SC games - so far, so good - no hangs.. Still needs to be properly tested for a few days (let's not forget this is a randomly happening process)

On October 28 2009 21:20 Geo.Rion wrote:
for me it's buggy on Vista too...

I think Windows Vista uses the same audiodg process, carrying the same issue with it. As far as win 95 goes... well that's some old school sh*t :D

WhuazGoodJaggah, i am using a similar .bat file, with the difference that it launches the game directly and after exit restores explorer.exe like this (D:\Gamez\Starcraft points to my install dir):

taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
D:
cd D:\Gamez\Starcraft
starcraft.exe
start explorer.exe

After all command prompt sequentially executes all commands and waits for SC to exit before going to the next line. No need to pause console and then Alt-tab and such

Nice ASCII art :D love it!
ProoM
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Lithuania1741 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-28 13:20:57
October 28 2009 13:18 GMT
#78
cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 C:\"Program Files\ICCup\Launcher"\"Launcher.exe"
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
cd C:\Program Files\StarCraft\
rem cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 C:\Program Files\StarCraft\StarCraft.exe
rem Wait for the game to quit, press Enter to continue
pause
start explorer.exe
exit

Colors + crashing bugs fix for Windows 7 (you have to change bold'ed places and save this to .exe file)
IMBA - International Mountain Bicycling Association.
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
October 28 2009 13:29 GMT
#79
On October 28 2009 22:18 ProoM wrote:
cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 C:\"Program Files\ICCup\Launcher"\"Launcher.exe"
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
cd C:\Program Files\StarCraft\
rem cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 C:\Program Files\StarCraft\StarCraft.exe
rem Wait for the game to quit, press Enter to continue
pause
start explorer.exe
exit

Colors + crashing bugs fix for Windows 7 (you have to change bold'ed places and save this to .exe file)

k so whenever u wanna play sc, you would click on this file instead?
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5502 Posts
October 28 2009 14:36 GMT
#80
On October 28 2009 21:46 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2009 09:40 Xaanix wrote:
Ok, I found the batch script and tested it out, it does indeed fix the color issue! (none of the compatability or color mode settings worked, leaving resolution window open also didnt work, but this did!)

the batch script basically restarts the explorer process as part of the script, the OS does not restart it automatically. Killing explorer doesnt stop any existing programs, and you can still alt-tab between programs you have open, so basically what happens is that you run the script after you've already started broodwar, and then alt tab into broodwar and all the colors are fixed. This obviously works regardless of whether you use the ICCUP launcher or not.

These are the commands for the script, just create a .bat file and paste in the contents below:


@ECHO OFF
ECHO Starcraft for Windows 7
ECHO _____ __ ______
ECHO / ___// /_____ ____________________ _/ __/ /_
ECHO \__ \/ __/ __ `/ ___/ ___/ ___/ __ `/ /_/ __/
ECHO ___/ / /_/ /_/ / / / /__/ / / /_/ / __/ /_
ECHO /____/\__/\__,_/_/ \___/_/ \__,_/_/ \__/
taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
PAUSE
Start explorer.exe



for nice formatting so your ascii art wont break ;D

@ECHO OFF
ECHO Starcraft for Windows 7
ECHO _____ __ ______
ECHO / ___// /_____ ____________________ _/ __/ /_
ECHO \__ \/ __/ __ `/ ___/ ___/ ___/ __ `/ /_/ __/
ECHO ___/ / /_/ /_/ / / / /__/ / / /_/ / __/ /_
ECHO /____/\__/\__,_/_/ \___/_/ \__,_/_/ \__/
taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
PAUSE
Start explorer.exe


Whao I've never seen a code command used on TL before
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writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
October 29 2009 05:59 GMT
#81
On October 28 2009 22:13 2lame wrote:
Ok... so far i've rolled back on the old Realtek driver, and made a few SC games - so far, so good - no hangs.. Still needs to be properly tested for a few days (let's not forget this is a randomly happening process)

Show nested quote +
On October 28 2009 21:20 Geo.Rion wrote:
for me it's buggy on Vista too...

I think Windows Vista uses the same audiodg process, carrying the same issue with it. As far as win 95 goes... well that's some old school sh*t :D


Nope, I used to use Vista on my laptop with no freezes. Only when I updated to Win7 did I start getting the problems.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
iG.Aura
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Poland686 Posts
November 02 2009 23:53 GMT
#82
so im considering upgrading to windows 7 ... pretty soon however my biggest concern is BW running. (iccup launcher more specifically). do you think i should wait? or are most of the problems resolved?
:-)
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
November 02 2009 23:55 GMT
#83
On November 03 2009 08:53 iG.Aura wrote:
so im considering upgrading to windows 7 ... pretty soon however my biggest concern is BW running. (iccup launcher more specifically). do you think i should wait? or are most of the problems resolved?

to fix the crashing, I closed all my music programs ie. winamp/itunes. If you want to fix the colors, kill explorer.exe before you launch sc

haven't had any issues on b.net or iccup
© Current year.
iG.Aura
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Poland686 Posts
November 03 2009 00:29 GMT
#84
On November 03 2009 08:55 CorsairHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2009 08:53 iG.Aura wrote:
so im considering upgrading to windows 7 ... pretty soon however my biggest concern is BW running. (iccup launcher more specifically). do you think i should wait? or are most of the problems resolved?

to fix the crashing, I closed all my music programs ie. winamp/itunes. If you want to fix the colors, kill explorer.exe before you launch sc

haven't had any issues on b.net or iccup


bw with no music.. thats almost impossible..
:-)
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
November 03 2009 01:26 GMT
#85
use in game music?..
or maybe try that xp mode
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da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
November 03 2009 01:27 GMT
#86
i don't have any music open, and mine still crashes.
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empty.bottle
Profile Joined July 2009
685 Posts
November 03 2009 02:03 GMT
#87
On November 03 2009 10:27 da_head wrote:
i don't have any music open, and mine still crashes.


32 or 64?
Dakota_Fanning *
Profile Joined January 2008
Hungary2349 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-03 06:59:28
November 03 2009 06:57 GMT
#88
I have Windows 7 64 bit, and I too experience the crashes. As far as I know, this only relates to the 64 bit version of win7.

Whenever I want to play, I reboot my computer, and basically start nothing else than just the launchers I use (BWHF Agent) and Starcraft itself. Then it works no problem. If I start to launch other applications, then it might crash unexpectedly (I didn't test which applications cause the problem, but it crashed even if I was running no music players).

Edit: browsers with flash plugins might be a problem too.
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Kadoka
Profile Joined October 2008
United States82 Posts
November 05 2009 05:29 GMT
#89
For those with Starcraft crashing on windows 7:

Right click the desktop, open Screen Resolution, and leave that open while you play.

I don't know why it works. My friend on windows 7 has to have it open or he'll crash.

If screen resolution is open he doesn't crash, if he forgets to open it he'll crash after a few minutes of play.

Not everyone has the crashing issues on 7, but this seems to fix it when you have that problem. This does not solve the negative colors glitch though.
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PobTheCad
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Australia893 Posts
November 05 2009 05:38 GMT
#90
what a hassle
i'll be sticking with good old windows XP
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
November 11 2009 05:54 GMT
#91
can anyone reupload the affinity fix plugin for chaos?
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LarJarsE
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1378 Posts
November 11 2009 06:17 GMT
#92
For you who havent upgraded to VISTA yet, get with the program.
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mcneebs
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada391 Posts
November 13 2009 02:49 GMT
#93
I really love win7, but I agree that this is killing me. I've tried affinity, compatibility mode options, and the batch file that kills explorer upon SC:BW launching, but I still get crashes and freezes. The only option I can think of is to dual boot win7 for 95% of my programs, and XP for SC.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
December 04 2009 07:35 GMT
#94
On November 13 2009 11:49 mcneebs wrote:
I really love win7, but I agree that this is killing me. I've tried affinity, compatibility mode options, and the batch file that kills explorer upon SC:BW launching, but I still get crashes and freezes. The only option I can think of is to dual boot win7 for 95% of my programs, and XP for SC.


bump, no one knows a solution to completely stop crashing?
i just played a total douche who tried to hide buildings just then on iccup and my comp crashed while i was finding his buildings. unfortunately because i crashed, i don't have a replay to back up my complaint.
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Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
December 04 2009 07:38 GMT
#95
Running in Compatibility Mode worked for me. Just choose XP.
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Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
December 04 2009 07:58 GMT
#96
For me, windowed mode on Chaoslauncher and ICCUP launcher makes everything fine (Win7 64bit).

No special settings, just run CL and BW and ICCUP as admin.
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Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
December 04 2009 13:10 GMT
#97
Yea, I got discolouration in full-screen mode, but who plays fullscreen on anything over 20"? lol
Windowed-mode makes everything fine. Win7 64bit here as well.
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Cwoo
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom6 Posts
December 04 2009 13:30 GMT
#98
I guess this doesn't help with anyones problems but I'm running Win7 on 64bit (quad core) and bw / chaos luncher / iccup launcher all work fine.

I do get funky colors on the menu screen when running in full screen but once in a game that goes away.
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
December 04 2009 13:45 GMT
#99
Open notepad.

copy/paste:

cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 D:\"SC"\"Launcher"\"Launcher.exe"
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
cd C:\SC\StarCraft\
rem cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 D:\"SC"\"StarCraft.exe"
rem Wait for the game to quit, press Enter to continue
pause
start explorer.exe
exit

Replace those paths with what you have for said files, save as .bat file.
Now when you wish to play start SC by clicking the file you created, it kills explorer until you stop playing. You can also create a shortcut of the file and make it look like SC so it looks prettier.


I tried everything else but only this works, now about 200 games without a crash. If even this doesn´t work then I have no idea what could be wrong. Maybe you guys have some weirdo component that just hates SC.
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da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
December 04 2009 13:48 GMT
#100
it was crashing for me but i solved it by doing this. making sure all my programs are closed (especially firefox) and when sc opens, i alt tab go to task manager and make sure that starcraft's affinity is set as one cpu.
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Always
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States376 Posts
December 04 2009 14:23 GMT
#101
actually, oddly enough, my laptop crashed while running broodwar on windows 7 yesterday. it literally just turned off-- complete shut down. i have been on windows 7 for a few weeks though, and it's only happened once-- maybe my problem isn't the same as yours..
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grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
December 04 2009 15:16 GMT
#102
On December 04 2009 22:45 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
Open notepad.

copy/paste:

cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 D:\"SC"\"Launcher"\"Launcher.exe"
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
cd C:\SC\StarCraft\
rem cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 D:\"SC"\"StarCraft.exe"
rem Wait for the game to quit, press Enter to continue
pause
start explorer.exe
exit

Replace those paths with what you have for said files, save as .bat file.
Now when you wish to play start SC by clicking the file you created, it kills explorer until you stop playing. You can also create a shortcut of the file and make it look like SC so it looks prettier.


I tried everything else but only this works, now about 200 games without a crash. If even this doesn´t work then I have no idea what could be wrong. Maybe you guys have some weirdo component that just hates SC.


will all this affinity stuff work for me when i only have one core to begin with? or would all that stuff be redundant?

basically, is there a .bat file like this but for one core computers?
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HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
December 04 2009 15:37 GMT
#103
On December 05 2009 00:16 grobo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2009 22:45 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
Open notepad.

copy/paste:

cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 D:\"SC"\"Launcher"\"Launcher.exe"
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
cd C:\SC\StarCraft\
rem cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 D:\"SC"\"StarCraft.exe"
rem Wait for the game to quit, press Enter to continue
pause
start explorer.exe
exit

Replace those paths with what you have for said files, save as .bat file.
Now when you wish to play start SC by clicking the file you created, it kills explorer until you stop playing. You can also create a shortcut of the file and make it look like SC so it looks prettier.


I tried everything else but only this works, now about 200 games without a crash. If even this doesn´t work then I have no idea what could be wrong. Maybe you guys have some weirdo component that just hates SC.


will all this affinity stuff work for me when i only have one core to begin with? or would all that stuff be redundant?

basically, is there a .bat file like this but for one core computers?


Mm, that affinity is just so that the game uses only on processor that´s what the number one is for I think (processors are named 0 - gazillion). So if you only have one processor I don´t see the reason/need for that affinity part.

So what that .bat file really would do then is that it kills explorer and after that starts Iccuplauncher/BW so the taskbar wont mess the colours. When you quit SC it starts explorer again and also exits the .bat file with a press of enter, for convenience.

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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 09 2009 20:34 GMT
#104
question... I just got a new laptop with windows 7...


Open notepad.

copy/paste:

cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 D:\"SC"\"Launcher"\"Launcher.exe"
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
cd C:\SC\StarCraft\
rem cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 D:\"SC"\"StarCraft.exe"
rem Wait for the game to quit, press Enter to continue
pause
start explorer.exe
exit

Replace those paths with what you have for said files, save as .bat file.
Now when you wish to play start SC by clicking the file you created, it kills explorer until you stop playing. You can also create a shortcut of the file and make it look like SC so it looks prettier.


what does "replace those paths with what you have for said files" mean?

thanks!
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 11 2009 22:10 GMT
#105
anyone??
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Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
December 11 2009 22:14 GMT
#106
well lets say you, like me, have starcraft on your C drive, in the folder program files -> starcraft and the iccup launcher on the C drive in Program Files -> ICCup -> Launcher then this is the correct way:

cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 C:\"Program Files"\"ICCup"\"Launcher"\"Launcher.exe"
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
cd C:\"Program Files (x86)"\"StarCraft"\
rem cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 C:\"Program Files"\"StarCraft"\"StarCraft.exe"
rem Wait for the game to quit, press Enter to continue
pause
start explorer.exe
exit
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grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
December 11 2009 22:17 GMT
#107
It probably means that you should replace those paths with the ones you use, for example, some people might have their SC installed in F:\games\Starcraft

I just noticed one thing, i always had the problem with weird colors in the game lobby and some minor color problems ingame, but i noticed that i had forgot to turn up my monitor's Hz after the format, when i turned up the Hz to what i usually have everything turned to normal again, and i haven't had any color problems since.
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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
December 11 2009 22:31 GMT
#108
Yes your paths should point to the starcraft.exe file wherever it's installed. Xeris' example has it pointing to the CD drive unless your running sc straight from a CD on your CD drive you'll want to change it to the paths to where it is on ur HD.
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
December 11 2009 22:41 GMT
#109
what? no it doesnt have to point to the cd-rom drive? it can point to whatever drive on your computer, HDD or CD-ROM. just because it says D: doesnt mean it's the CD-ROM
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R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10340 Posts
December 11 2009 23:11 GMT
#110
Anyone who is having crashing on Win7 want to help me develop a fix? Will require remote access to your PC.
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RaptorX
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Germany646 Posts
December 11 2009 23:23 GMT
#111
instead of creating a bat file, I would try "prio" priority saver... that program sets the affinity and the priority of a program and then you dont have to set it up any more...

I use it for streaming, I set up camtasia and starcraft in one core and the encoder in another and then saved the settings with that program, I dont have to be doing that stuff over and over again.

check the info here:
http://www.prnwatch.com/prio.html

if you go to the download area then you look for the last program at the bottom.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
December 11 2009 23:44 GMT
#112
On December 12 2009 08:11 R1CH wrote:
Anyone who is having crashing on Win7 want to help me develop a fix? Will require remote access to your PC.


do i need good internet
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Doso
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany769 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-12 00:55:06
December 12 2009 00:52 GMT
#113
On December 12 2009 08:11 R1CH wrote:
Anyone who is having crashing on Win7 want to help me develop a fix? Will require remote access to your PC.


You can count me in, you have to deal with a German Windows 7 though :p

I can confirm that it's a sound issue.

If i let Winamp play MP3 streams in the background Starcraft crashes after a while. If I don't Starcraft runs fine.
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
December 12 2009 01:15 GMT
#114
On December 12 2009 08:11 R1CH wrote:
Anyone who is having crashing on Win7 want to help me develop a fix? Will require remote access to your PC.


If needed I will too. Would pretty pro and wizard-like.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
December 12 2009 01:15 GMT
#115
On December 12 2009 09:52 Doso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2009 08:11 R1CH wrote:
Anyone who is having crashing on Win7 want to help me develop a fix? Will require remote access to your PC.


You can count me in, you have to deal with a German Windows 7 though :p

I can confirm that it's a sound issue.

If i let Winamp play MP3 streams in the background Starcraft crashes after a while. If I don't Starcraft runs fine.


i don't think so

i tried playing without winamp on, and i still crashed.
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Art_of_Kill
Profile Joined September 2003
Zaire1232 Posts
December 12 2009 01:28 GMT
#116
have the same problem
but when i use windows mode on iccuplauncher it stop crashing ~
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 12 2009 01:31 GMT
#117
windows mode works, the .bat file thing worked for me!
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writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-12 02:32:57
December 12 2009 02:30 GMT
#118
To anyone who crashes, as in computer just dies and you have to force a reboot:

Check your PCI hardware, e.g. network card. I was getting constant 0x00000124 bsod's when I upgraded to 7. Turns out the reason was because I was using an outdated driver on my Atheros AR928X that worked fine on Vista, but gave errors on win7.

In particular I was using a modded Atheros driver on laptopvideo2go, and the modded INF was the issue. Updating to a newer release fixed my problems and now I can finally enjoy Win7 with no crashes!

Therefore I advise updating all your drivers, not just using Windows Update but actually checking the manufacturer's website.
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R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10340 Posts
December 12 2009 02:32 GMT
#119
[image loading]

Poll: What happens?
(Vote): Complete system freeze
(Vote): Windows "Starcraft has stopped working"
(Vote): Windows "StarCraft.exe the instruction at 0xxxxxxxxx referenced memory at 0xxxxxxxxx:"
(Vote): BSOD
(Vote): Crash to desktop, no error or anything

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inReacH
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Sweden1612 Posts
December 12 2009 09:11 GMT
#120
Hey Rich you're welcome to use my PC if you still need one.

I reformatted to the retail release of 64bit 2 days ago so it's a clean install.
I just went back to my old graphics card and I'm about to see if that works but PM me at anytime and I'll gladly surrender my computer for the greater good.

I'll also PM you my msn right now.
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
December 12 2009 09:45 GMT
#121
Hi, I frequently 2v2 with my buddy who plays SC on win7. We use skype to talk to eachother during the matches. When his computer freezes, nothing responds but we can still talk over skype.

None of the windows commands respond ie: alt-tab, ctrl alt del
He had to force manual shut down every time.

One thing he noticed though is that when he turned Gadgets off, there haven't been any crashes.

I hope that information can help in some way.
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virusak
Profile Joined December 2009
Czech Republic344 Posts
December 12 2009 10:05 GMT
#122
Well don't know if anyone mentioned this but this is rather only a graphic DirectDraw issue, if you run skype or winamp on the background it will still play

On the Microsoft technet forum there is also a discussion about this, Squall_Leonhart69r seems to have get to the problems core


i have done further looking into this with multiple applications which make use of double buffering or triplebuffering (and vsync). The results are that these applications when run in DDraw fail to lock the primary buffer and result in Screen tearing and also the drawing of the windows startmenu orb and flashing taskbar buttons to display on top of the application in fullscreen. Had the primary framebuffer locked, this would NOT occur. That said. This is a windows 7 bug spanning both X32 and x64, and video drivers have no bearing what so ever. The same applications work fine on Vista. The only thing i can think of is these applications are displaying the behavior of an application manifested for Windows 7, rather then older versions and so are unable to lock the primary buffer. more info here http://www.codenamewindows.com/?p=58
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
December 12 2009 10:10 GMT
#123
On December 12 2009 19:05 virusak wrote:
Well don't know if anyone mentioned this but this is rather only a graphic DirectDraw issue, if you run skype or winamp on the background it will still play

On the Microsoft technet forum there is also a discussion about this, Squall_Leonhart69r seems to have get to the problems core

Show nested quote +

i have done further looking into this with multiple applications which make use of double buffering or triplebuffering (and vsync). The results are that these applications when run in DDraw fail to lock the primary buffer and result in Screen tearing and also the drawing of the windows startmenu orb and flashing taskbar buttons to display on top of the application in fullscreen. Had the primary framebuffer locked, this would NOT occur. That said. This is a windows 7 bug spanning both X32 and x64, and video drivers have no bearing what so ever. The same applications work fine on Vista. The only thing i can think of is these applications are displaying the behavior of an application manifested for Windows 7, rather then older versions and so are unable to lock the primary buffer. more info here http://www.codenamewindows.com/?p=58

definitely a no for me
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virusak
Profile Joined December 2009
Czech Republic344 Posts
December 12 2009 10:17 GMT
#124
On December 12 2009 19:10 CorsairHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2009 19:05 virusak wrote:
Well don't know if anyone mentioned this but this is rather only a graphic DirectDraw issue, if you run skype or winamp on the background it will still play

On the Microsoft technet forum there is also a discussion about this, Squall_Leonhart69r seems to have get to the problems core


i have done further looking into this with multiple applications which make use of double buffering or triplebuffering (and vsync). The results are that these applications when run in DDraw fail to lock the primary buffer and result in Screen tearing and also the drawing of the windows startmenu orb and flashing taskbar buttons to display on top of the application in fullscreen. Had the primary framebuffer locked, this would NOT occur. That said. This is a windows 7 bug spanning both X32 and x64, and video drivers have no bearing what so ever. The same applications work fine on Vista. The only thing i can think of is these applications are displaying the behavior of an application manifested for Windows 7, rather then older versions and so are unable to lock the primary buffer. more info here http://www.codenamewindows.com/?p=58

definitely a no for me

for those that still have issues after killing explorer and other programs, that should be mostly the case
Doso
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany769 Posts
December 13 2009 14:54 GMT
#125
I can confirm the Winamp part. I have Winamp run in the background - bam SC freezes. I don't - game runs fine.
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10340 Posts
December 14 2009 02:42 GMT
#126
From my testing, since BW crashes in fullscreen, you don't actually see the crash dialog since BW is still in the way. Thus, it appears your PC has completely frozen when in reality there might be a crash message in the background that you simply can't see or dismiss.

If you get freezes, I would suggest hitting enter / space a few times to dismiss any non-visible error dialogs, followed by alt+tab then enter / space and alt+tab twice followed by enter / space. BW should not be able to completely lock up your PC, it just seems that way since you're unable to interact with anything else.
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GW.Methos
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States249 Posts
December 14 2009 02:49 GMT
#127
i had a problem like this in vista, but one day it just got fixed somehow.
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razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
December 14 2009 03:27 GMT
#128
In response to the enter/space theory, when it crashed on my friend, the caps lock/num lock keys didn't respond at all (didn't light on/off). He has also tried spamming a lot of keys and key combinations with no response.
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KCrazy
Profile Joined August 2009
United States278 Posts
December 14 2009 04:08 GMT
#129
not sure if this helps but my experience with this whole windows 7 crash is that when i have less things running in the background, the game crashes less frequently. Also when i had an excessive amount of things running in the background (sidebar, winamp, aim, a few things of photoshop etc...) the game usually crashes within minutes. In both circumstances, it felt as though the game would crash at random points and not necessarily at specific timings.
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inReacH
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Sweden1612 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-14 16:52:29
December 14 2009 16:51 GMT
#130
I think I found a fix, I played all of yesterday with no problems... these are all the things I did, I'm not sure if one or a combination of them was what helped but here goes:

1.Close winamp.
2.Go into NVIDIA control panel and set Starcraft to use only one GPU(I'm using a gtx 295 so if you have a single GPU gfxcard this one won't be necessary)
3.Turn vertical sync off for starcraft in NVIDIA control panel.(doubt this one matters)
4.Go to your Starcraft directory, right click on starcraft.exe, properties, compatibility, check mark all boxes except disable desktop comp and disable display scaling.

5.Open notepad.

copy/paste:

cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 D:\"SC"\"Launcher"\"Launcher.exe"
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
cd C:\SC\StarCraft\
rem cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 D:\"SC"\"StarCraft.exe"
rem Wait for the game to quit, press Enter to continue
pause
start explorer.exe
exit

Replace those paths with what you have for said files, save as .bat file.
Now when you wish to play start SC by clicking the file you created, it kills explorer until you stop playing. You can also create a shortcut of the file and make it look like SC so it looks prettier.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm about to go play SC all day so if I crash I'll edit this post with a something like 'fuck my life', if this is still here then it's working.

If you need help with any of the steps please post the question here and you might want to pm me.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
December 14 2009 17:36 GMT
#131
On May 17 2009 02:39 cava wrote:
I hope windows 7 is a success. I always thought Vista got a bad rap for no reason. After serice pack 1 vista became solid as a rock. I build this computer in January with windows vista x64 and it has yet to crash on me, or fail to be able to run a program. If windows 7 is an improvement it will be an awesome OS.


Very true, I know someone who's had Vista for 2 years? and he's never had a single problem. Win7 the only problem I see is that when you try to move your files they get deleted.

Either way I stick with XP. It's reliable and it makes a funny face if you look at it sideways.
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lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
December 16 2009 15:51 GMT
#132
I am yet another victim of the exact same problem. Is there no simple solution still?
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NiGoL
Profile Joined September 2008
1868 Posts
December 16 2009 16:14 GMT
#133
haha this sucks, i was thinking of getting windows 7, but if it doesn't work with BW, i might reconsider lol
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lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
December 16 2009 16:28 GMT
#134
It does not crash quite that often but it is annoying when it does.
Everyone needs a nemesis.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
December 16 2009 17:45 GMT
#135
Win7 users try playing BW in window mode.
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mizore
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
40 Posts
December 17 2009 20:49 GMT
#136
I've tried running every fix listed here but I still can not get BroodWar to work. My problem sounds a bit different than the ones that are listed here though.

Everytime I click on multiplayer > expansion, BroodWar crashes and gives me this error :

The instruction at 0x004dd66e referenced memory at 0x00000018. The memory could not be written. Click on OK to terminate the program.

Any help in getting this to work would be appreciated... I don't mind somebody remotely accessing my computer to get it to work either.
Zelo
Profile Joined September 2009
United States10 Posts
December 17 2009 21:18 GMT
#137
I can confirm that closing winamp fixed the freezing for me and closing explorer.exe fixes the color issue.
mizore
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
40 Posts
December 19 2009 14:16 GMT
#138
On December 18 2009 05:49 mizore wrote:
I've tried running every fix listed here but I still can not get BroodWar to work. My problem sounds a bit different than the ones that are listed here though.

Everytime I click on multiplayer > expansion, BroodWar crashes and gives me this error :

The instruction at 0x004dd66e referenced memory at 0x00000018. The memory could not be written. Click on OK to terminate the program.

Any help in getting this to work would be appreciated... I don't mind somebody remotely accessing my computer to get it to work either.


Disregard this, I found out my problem.
ShroomyD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Australia245 Posts
December 19 2009 14:22 GMT
#139
On December 19 2009 23:16 mizore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2009 05:49 mizore wrote:
I've tried running every fix listed here but I still can not get BroodWar to work. My problem sounds a bit different than the ones that are listed here though.

Everytime I click on multiplayer > expansion, BroodWar crashes and gives me this error :

The instruction at 0x004dd66e referenced memory at 0x00000018. The memory could not be written. Click on OK to terminate the program.

Any help in getting this to work would be appreciated... I don't mind somebody remotely accessing my computer to get it to work either.


Disregard this, I found out my problem.

Mind sharing the solution? ^^;;;
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georgir
Profile Joined May 2009
Bulgaria253 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-19 15:53:10
December 19 2009 15:46 GMT
#140
im using windows 7, [EDIT: bugger me, im on vista on that particular comp, still havent even tried SC on my win 7 comps. sorry i got confused... this post is now completely irrelevant, but i'll leave it as it still gives an idea that you could try] and while i did have the messed up colors quite a lot, it's got very rare these days, if not even completely fine - i guess some windows update fixed it, or its just random luck on my part.

i think i may have 'run as administrator' checked in my launcher shortcut, but i am not 100% sure. i know i don't use any other compatibility settings though - tried a few and didnt find any of them helped.

about the crashing - i've had that too. in my case, it would often crash at the end of a game
i re-downloaded it from my bnet profile thinking my first dl was corrupt, uninstalled and reinstalled it several times etc...
but i think what actually helped was that i used 'run as administrator' from the rightclick menu on the first run to update it properly, and it got ok.
if you're still having problems, you could also try to do the update with a manually downloaded patch instead of by connecting to bnet, maybe again with the 'run as administrator' trick.
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
December 19 2009 20:09 GMT
#141
Gah I'm having this crash too. Halp!
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
December 21 2009 18:24 GMT
#142
WinXP can give you messed up colors too if you are inactive and it goes into sleep mode / screen saver mode, try restarting SC it might work for other OS's
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Always
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States376 Posts
December 22 2009 06:35 GMT
#143
this is ridiculous, i've lost 4 games this season so far due to my computer just randomly shutting off. no warning, nothing. just shuts off like someone pulled the power. it never did this before i "upgraded" anyone know what to do?
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ssj114
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Afghanistan461 Posts
December 22 2009 06:36 GMT
#144
Don't use Windows 7. Stick to XP until Windows 9 comes out.
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lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
December 22 2009 06:50 GMT
#145
Silly XP purists. Vista on the latest SP is better than XP now.
Everyone needs a nemesis.
ssj114
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Afghanistan461 Posts
December 22 2009 06:54 GMT
#146
Silly Windows users. Linux always wins now.
Sandboxie + SUA + DEP, Windows Firewall + NAT Router
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
December 22 2009 07:18 GMT
#147
On December 22 2009 15:35 Always wrote:
this is ridiculous, i've lost 4 games this season so far due to my computer just randomly shutting off. no warning, nothing. just shuts off like someone pulled the power. it never did this before i "upgraded" anyone know what to do?



I was down 4 games last season, almost reaching B. My ally just had to install win7 -_-
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-22 07:30:57
December 22 2009 07:30 GMT
#148
On December 22 2009 15:35 Always wrote:
this is ridiculous, i've lost 4 games this season so far due to my computer just randomly shutting off. no warning, nothing. just shuts off like someone pulled the power. it never did this before i "upgraded" anyone know what to do?

do a clean install next time
sc isn't suppose to have the ability to shutdown your computer =/ I would assume that even if sc had any conflicts with other processes that it would cause a crash or freeze instead
On December 22 2009 15:54 ssj114 wrote:
Silly Windows users. Linux always wins now.


when it comes to gaming, windows always wins.
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 22 2009 07:33 GMT
#149
that code works by the way, i've had 0 crashes so far.
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pat965
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada274 Posts
December 22 2009 09:04 GMT
#150
If you decide not to run any of the fixes listed in this thread, just play in Windows mode, works for me.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
December 22 2009 10:00 GMT
#151
other than this, is windows 7 good?
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lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-22 13:37:19
December 22 2009 13:35 GMT
#152
Windows 7 is excellent. It basically does everything Vista wants to do but better. One of the most simple benefits is slightly (or greatly, depends on the system of course) reduced start up times. Which in my case matters a lot. Again, there are other improvements as well (greater data transfer rates, etc.).

UAC is also less intrusive. It does not actually freeze your system like it would in Vista (if you would play audio/video and UAC would come up, it would lag and try to catch up all at once turning into a not so pleasurable sensual experience).

If you already run SC windowed, you do not have to worry about SC when upgrading (and you really should upgrade to W7). What is working for me most of the time is to just close/minimize as many programs as possible. It still occurs but is not as sudden/definitely not a real fix.
Everyone needs a nemesis.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
December 22 2009 13:54 GMT
#153
On December 22 2009 22:35 lynx.oblige wrote:
and you really should upgrade to W7


If SC runs fine on Windows 7 (including colours), then give such advice.
Killing explorer.exe is also an option but it is inconvenient.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
December 22 2009 14:04 GMT
#154
On December 22 2009 22:54 slimshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2009 22:35 lynx.oblige wrote:
and you really should upgrade to W7


If SC runs fine on Windows 7 (including colours), then give such advice.
Killing explorer.exe is also an option but it is inconvenient.


Eh, tbh I have no idea what the fuss about the Win7 color problem is about. True, when you run SC without killing explorer you get messed up colors, but when you join a game the colors are 99% fine. Sometimes, I noticed that water on a twilight map will have messed up colors.
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Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
December 22 2009 15:33 GMT
#155
On December 22 2009 22:35 lynx.oblige wrote:
Windows 7 is excellent. It basically does everything Vista wants to do but better. One of the most simple benefits is slightly (or greatly, depends on the system of course) reduced start up times. Which in my case matters a lot. Again, there are other improvements as well (greater data transfer rates, etc.).

I haven't tried windows 7 myself yet, but I am skeptical of this claim. If you do a clean install of windows xp on the same machine, does it boot slower than windows 7? I have previously downgraded an xp system to windows 98 and I actually achieved lift off.
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Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
December 22 2009 15:40 GMT
#156
love u people at teamliquid.the color error is fixed after i followed the instructions about the batch file thing.
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Abyzou
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden209 Posts
December 22 2009 16:36 GMT
#157
On December 22 2009 15:50 lynx.oblige wrote:
Silly XP purists. Vista on the latest SP is better than XP now.

I agree.

XP is great but it's just ancient by now. It lacks so many features. For example the start menu in Vista/7 is so much better it's not even funny.

I'm using 7 and it's really great. I haven't had any trouble with compatibility beyond the stuff that wouldn't work in Vista either... All that really chaps my hide is the SC issues and Age of Mythology, which won't run at all
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writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-24 05:14:42
December 24 2009 05:14 GMT
#158
On December 15 2009 01:51 inReacH wrote:
5.Open notepad.

copy/paste:

cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 D:\"SC"\"Launcher"\"Launcher.exe"
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
cd C:\SC\StarCraft\
rem cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 D:\"SC"\"StarCraft.exe"
rem Wait for the game to quit, press Enter to continue
pause
start explorer.exe
exit

Replace those paths with what you have for said files, save as .bat file.
Now when you wish to play start SC by clicking the file you created, it kills explorer until you stop playing. You can also create a shortcut of the file and make it look like SC so it looks prettier.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Why do you have a Launcher file? Unless that is chaoslauncher?
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Un Gato
Profile Joined July 2009
United States123 Posts
December 24 2009 20:44 GMT
#159
I doubt that Windows 7 itself is the issue for any of this. I've been running SC on XP, Vista, and W7 and have had it work fine on each. The only difference is what sort of crazy colors I see outside of games, in games it's always fine.
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
December 24 2009 20:49 GMT
#160
On December 25 2009 05:44 Un Gato wrote:
I doubt that Windows 7 itself is the issue for any of this. I've been running SC on XP, Vista, and W7 and have had it work fine on each. The only difference is what sort of crazy colors I see outside of games, in games it's always fine.

yeah for the first few months of owning 7 I thought this as I was not getting any freezes under Windows 7 at all. But within the past month I've had it happen like five times, which is too much for me. Now I run a dualboot setup with XP and 7.
blabberrrrr
ProoM
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Lithuania1741 Posts
December 24 2009 20:50 GMT
#161
On December 22 2009 16:33 Xeris wrote:
that code works by the way, i've had 0 crashes so far.

didnt work for me :S
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Un Gato
Profile Joined July 2009
United States123 Posts
December 24 2009 20:52 GMT
#162
On December 25 2009 05:49 blabber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 05:44 Un Gato wrote:
I doubt that Windows 7 itself is the issue for any of this. I've been running SC on XP, Vista, and W7 and have had it work fine on each. The only difference is what sort of crazy colors I see outside of games, in games it's always fine.

yeah for the first few months of owning 7 I thought this as I was not getting any freezes under Windows 7 at all. But within the past month I've had it happen like five times, which is too much for me. Now I run a dualboot setup with XP and 7.

That seems as though it's a recent change, not something that you just randomly avoided until now given the sudden frequency.
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whiteLotus
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
1833 Posts
December 24 2009 21:03 GMT
#163
how to stop lag in bw with windows 7? i have all latest drivers etc.
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Khaymus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States750 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-25 09:24:54
December 25 2009 09:21 GMT
#164
Nevermind

Fuck windows 7. None of this works for me (((((
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Un Gato
Profile Joined July 2009
United States123 Posts
December 25 2009 18:50 GMT
#165
Again, I really don't think Windows itself is at fault for any of these problems.
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
Khaymus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States750 Posts
December 25 2009 19:31 GMT
#166
So from the sounds of it. If you are using Windows 7 and get this crash and this batch file does not fix it...your just kinda screwed?

To top it off, my launcher will not launch the damn game in windowed mode, so I can't even fix it by doing that. Tells me to reinstall Iccup launcher, but that doesn't help at all -_-.

Anyone find any solution that works when none of this already posted doesn't?
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
December 26 2009 01:58 GMT
#167
On December 15 2009 01:51 inReacH wrote:
I think I found a fix, I played all of yesterday with no problems... these are all the things I did, I'm not sure if one or a combination of them was what helped but here goes:

1.Close winamp.
2.Go into NVIDIA control panel and set Starcraft to use only one GPU(I'm using a gtx 295 so if you have a single GPU gfxcard this one won't be necessary)
3.Turn vertical sync off for starcraft in NVIDIA control panel.(doubt this one matters)
4.Go to your Starcraft directory, right click on starcraft.exe, properties, compatibility, check mark all boxes except disable desktop comp and disable display scaling.

5.Open notepad.

copy/paste:

cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 D:\"SC"\"Launcher"\"Launcher.exe"
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
cd C:\SC\StarCraft\
rem cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 D:\"SC"\"StarCraft.exe"
rem Wait for the game to quit, press Enter to continue
pause
start explorer.exe
exit



Replace those paths with what you have for said files, save as .bat file.
Now when you wish to play start SC by clicking the file you created, it kills explorer until you stop playing. You can also create a shortcut of the file and make it look like SC so it looks prettier.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm about to go play SC all day so if I crash I'll edit this post with a something like 'fuck my life', if this is still here then it's working.

If you need help with any of the steps please post the question here and you might want to pm me.


What do we replace in D:\"SC"\"Launcher"\"Launcher.exe"
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lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
December 26 2009 03:43 GMT
#168
On December 22 2009 22:54 slimshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2009 22:35 lynx.oblige wrote:
and you really should upgrade to W7


If SC runs fine on Windows 7 (including colours), then give such advice.
Killing explorer.exe is also an option but it is inconvenient.


Or you can try reading my post again. Preferably with your dyslexia off.
Everyone needs a nemesis.
Prozen
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States338 Posts
June 24 2010 00:37 GMT
#169
I'm bumping this for a good reason. Is there really no fix for this problem? I tried the bat file + checking almost all the boxes in Starcraft.exe properties, but still the crashing problems continue to occur. And yet, my friend, who has Windows 7 Ultimate, is experiencing no crashing problems. What do I do?
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BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
June 30 2010 11:00 GMT
#170
Wow i just experienced this for the first time after running BW on windows 7

Really sucks i cant play at all game just freezes and i dont know how to fix
Baksteen
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Netherlands438 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-30 13:48:25
June 30 2010 13:48 GMT
#171
On June 30 2010 20:00 BrTarolg wrote:
Wow i just experienced this for the first time after running BW on windows 7

Really sucks i cant play at all game just freezes and i dont know how to fix


Did you set it to compatibility mode for windows 95, with 265 colors and the altered resolution, 640*480 because i just reinstalled the client and i had no problems at all.
Derp Derp Derp
JollYRoGeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Sweden342 Posts
June 30 2010 13:53 GMT
#172
I did the .bat file once upon a time, now it works great if i open "personalize" before starting the game. Try it!
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
June 30 2010 17:12 GMT
#173
On June 30 2010 22:48 Baksteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2010 20:00 BrTarolg wrote:
Wow i just experienced this for the first time after running BW on windows 7

Really sucks i cant play at all game just freezes and i dont know how to fix


Did you set it to compatibility mode for windows 95, with 265 colors and the altered resolution, 640*480 because i just reinstalled the client and i had no problems at all.


Yeah, that worked fine for me. Can't remember if I needed to set the affinity to 1 CPU (after its loaded, alt-tab out, go to Task Manager -> Right Click the exe in Processes -> Set affinity) like I've had to do for several other old games lately like Thief 1 and TA: Kingdoms.
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2279 Posts
June 30 2010 17:40 GMT
#174
Be sure to not have winamp started when playing BroodWar.
Seven + BW + Winamp = crash.

When I'm lucky, I can play one game before crashing the game.
Without it, no problem since 6 months. ^^
Baksteen
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Netherlands438 Posts
June 30 2010 17:53 GMT
#175
On July 01 2010 02:12 Bibdy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2010 22:48 Baksteen wrote:
On June 30 2010 20:00 BrTarolg wrote:
Wow i just experienced this for the first time after running BW on windows 7

Really sucks i cant play at all game just freezes and i dont know how to fix


Did you set it to compatibility mode for windows 95, with 265 colors and the altered resolution, 640*480 because i just reinstalled the client and i had no problems at all.


Yeah, that worked fine for me. Can't remember if I needed to set the affinity to 1 CPU (after its loaded, alt-tab out, go to Task Manager -> Right Click the exe in Processes -> Set affinity) like I've had to do for several other old games lately like Thief 1 and TA: Kingdoms.


Don't think that this step is required, at least not for me. BW has been running like charm <3

On July 01 2010 02:40 Lysteria wrote:
Be sure to not have winamp started when playing BroodWar.
Seven + BW + Winamp = crash.

When I'm lucky, I can play one game before crashing the game.
Without it, no problem since 6 months. ^^


Yea i remember reading about this, didn't it have something to do with the .wav files and how they are used by SC:BW?
Derp Derp Derp
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2279 Posts
June 30 2010 19:40 GMT
#176
It's a good question !
I know you can listen music while playing Starcraft with Windows Media Player, VLC, probably nearly everything, even a selfmade player. Winamp is the only one on my computer which can crash it. If someone knows why, I'm interested.
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
June 30 2010 20:03 GMT
#177
it doesn't have anything to do with other programs running. You can have nothing else running and it may still crash.

The only workaround is using window mode with chaoslauncher or iccup launcher
blabberrrrr
Leg[end]
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States241 Posts
June 30 2010 20:21 GMT
#178
Right click the SC icon in the actual folder > Click Properties > Run in compatibility mode for XP

That works for me
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Rkie
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1278 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-30 20:37:03
June 30 2010 20:36 GMT
#179
-Valor-
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States283 Posts
June 30 2010 20:47 GMT
#180
I have the same problem and I am already running SC:BW on compatability mode for XP. After I get maybe twenty minutes into a game it freezes and I have to manually shut down to fix it. Any help would be appreciated.
Baksteen
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Netherlands438 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-30 21:06:29
June 30 2010 21:02 GMT
#181
On July 01 2010 05:47 ss6290 wrote:
I have the same problem and I am already running SC:BW on compatability mode for XP. After I get maybe twenty minutes into a game it freezes and I have to manually shut down to fix it. Any help would be appreciated.


Set it to compatability mode for windows 95, that worked for me. Also did while i used Vista.

Edit:
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These are the settings i use.

Edit2: i should maybe check run as administrator because now it asks me everytime it starts up :p
Derp Derp Derp
-Valor-
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States283 Posts
June 30 2010 21:39 GMT
#182
On July 01 2010 06:02 Baksteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 05:47 ss6290 wrote:
I have the same problem and I am already running SC:BW on compatability mode for XP. After I get maybe twenty minutes into a game it freezes and I have to manually shut down to fix it. Any help would be appreciated.


Set it to compatability mode for windows 95, that worked for me. Also did while i used Vista.

Edit:
[image loading]


These are the settings i use.

Edit2: i should maybe check run as administrator because now it asks me everytime it starts up :p

Unfortunately, that did not solve the freezing issue. Any more suggestions?
Baksteen
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Netherlands438 Posts
June 30 2010 21:44 GMT
#183
On July 01 2010 06:39 ss6290 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 06:02 Baksteen wrote:
On July 01 2010 05:47 ss6290 wrote:
I have the same problem and I am already running SC:BW on compatability mode for XP. After I get maybe twenty minutes into a game it freezes and I have to manually shut down to fix it. Any help would be appreciated.


Set it to compatability mode for windows 95, that worked for me. Also did while i used Vista.

Edit:
[image loading]


These are the settings i use.

Edit2: i should maybe check run as administrator because now it asks me everytime it starts up :p

Unfortunately, that did not solve the freezing issue. Any more suggestions?


Did you try this already?

On July 01 2010 02:12 Bibdy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2010 22:48 Baksteen wrote:
On June 30 2010 20:00 BrTarolg wrote:
Wow i just experienced this for the first time after running BW on windows 7

Really sucks i cant play at all game just freezes and i dont know how to fix


Did you set it to compatibility mode for windows 95, with 265 colors and the altered resolution, 640*480 because i just reinstalled the client and i had no problems at all.


Yeah, that worked fine for me. Can't remember if I needed to set the affinity to 1 CPU (after its loaded, alt-tab out, go to Task Manager -> Right Click the exe in Processes -> Set affinity) like I've had to do for several other old games lately like Thief 1 and TA: Kingdoms.


Derp Derp Derp
-Valor-
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States283 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-30 21:49:09
June 30 2010 21:48 GMT
#184
On July 01 2010 06:44 Baksteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 06:39 ss6290 wrote:
On July 01 2010 06:02 Baksteen wrote:
On July 01 2010 05:47 ss6290 wrote:
I have the same problem and I am already running SC:BW on compatability mode for XP. After I get maybe twenty minutes into a game it freezes and I have to manually shut down to fix it. Any help would be appreciated.


Set it to compatability mode for windows 95, that worked for me. Also did while i used Vista.

Edit:
[image loading]


These are the settings i use.

Edit2: i should maybe check run as administrator because now it asks me everytime it starts up :p

Unfortunately, that did not solve the freezing issue. Any more suggestions?


Did you try this already?

Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 02:12 Bibdy wrote:
On June 30 2010 22:48 Baksteen wrote:
On June 30 2010 20:00 BrTarolg wrote:
Wow i just experienced this for the first time after running BW on windows 7

Really sucks i cant play at all game just freezes and i dont know how to fix


Did you set it to compatibility mode for windows 95, with 265 colors and the altered resolution, 640*480 because i just reinstalled the client and i had no problems at all.


Yeah, that worked fine for me. Can't remember if I needed to set the affinity to 1 CPU (after its loaded, alt-tab out, go to Task Manager -> Right Click the exe in Processes -> Set affinity) like I've had to do for several other old games lately like Thief 1 and TA: Kingdoms.



It says the operation could not be completed and that access is denied.
Edit: Nvm, I did it now I will try to play again.
Baksteen
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Netherlands438 Posts
June 30 2010 21:57 GMT
#185
Hope that it works! What you could try otherwise, but what i have not tried is this:

On December 15 2009 01:51 inReacH wrote:
I think I found a fix, I played all of yesterday with no problems... these are all the things I did, I'm not sure if one or a combination of them was what helped but here goes:

1.Close winamp.
2.Go into NVIDIA control panel and set Starcraft to use only one GPU(I'm using a gtx 295 so if you have a single GPU gfxcard this one won't be necessary)
3.Turn vertical sync off for starcraft in NVIDIA control panel.(doubt this one matters)
4.Go to your Starcraft directory, right click on starcraft.exe, properties, compatibility, check mark all boxes except disable desktop comp and disable display scaling.

5.Open notepad.

copy/paste:

cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 D:\"SC"\"Launcher"\"Launcher.exe"
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
cd C:\SC\StarCraft\
rem cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 D:\"SC"\"StarCraft.exe"
rem Wait for the game to quit, press Enter to continue
pause
start explorer.exe
exit



Replace those paths with what you have for said files, save as .bat file.
Now when you wish to play start SC by clicking the file you created, it kills explorer until you stop playing. You can also create a shortcut of the file and make it look like SC so it looks prettier.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm about to go play SC all day so if I crash I'll edit this post with a something like 'fuck my life', if this is still here then it's working.

If you need help with any of the steps please post the question here and you might want to pm me.


You should post your own filepaths in the D:\"SC"\"Launcher"\"Launcher.exe" stuff. Good luck hope it helps!
Derp Derp Derp
slimdagger
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States84 Posts
July 02 2010 18:32 GMT
#186
So, i've been trying different modes with windows 7. I think it's been more reliable when I don't kill explorer.exe

My batch file right now does the same as everyone else, but it doesn't stop the explorer.exe process. Just played a game (13 mins). Seemed ok...

When I didn't have explorer.exe running, tabbing out sometimes produced a black screen. Maybe the explorer window manager is maintaining some things that are essential. I notice that the new fancy graphics Iccup launcher can't start unless explorer is running.
olof
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden254 Posts
July 04 2010 17:09 GMT
#187
I just can't get this to work. I'm over 10 losses at iccup because of this shitty bug and it's driving me nuts. I tried different compability modes, no winamp / no firefox running in background without any success.

I tried the batfile, but all it does is try to open the ICCUP launcher which 'stops replying' after a couple of seconds, it doesn't even open broodwar.
+ Show Spoiler +
bw.bat

cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 C:\"Program Files (x86)"\ICCup\Launcher\Launcher.exe
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
cd C:\"Program Files (x86)"\StarCraft\
rem cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 C:\"Program Files (x86)"\StarCraft\StarCraft.exe
rem Wait for the game to quit, press Enter to continue
pause
start explorer.exe
exit


How can I fix this??
hi man O_O
dhe95
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1213 Posts
July 04 2010 17:39 GMT
#188
My bat file has
+ Show Spoiler +
taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe > NUL
pause
start /B explorer.exe


I start starcraft, alt-tab, and run this bat, then when i'm done you just have to go back into the command prompt window and press any key to relaunch explorer.exe

then you can use prio to make affinity changes permant
http://www.prnwatch.com/download.html
olof
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden254 Posts
July 04 2010 18:41 GMT
#189
Closing explorer.exe manually and running the game doesn't help either. Only one fast game then it froze as I started the second one. Is my only option to dualboot XP just to play?
hi man O_O
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
July 04 2010 18:47 GMT
#190
While looking into this issue myself, I found this thread that supports its a compatibility issue between Windows 7 and old DirectDraw applications.
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistagaming/thread/4e83dac8-8d4d-4dad-9f1d-e08fa2fe1e48
Quoting interesting tidbits

Scouring the web, I have come to the conclusion that this is a Windows 7 issue, and there is no link between hardware, or drivers as it occurs on ATI, Intel and Nvidia chips.

Games such as Starcraft may freeze as soon as you hit the first menu screen, or as late as half way through a mission.

...

So far i've verified that
Affinity does not fix it.
Process Priority does not fix it.
End tasking or pausing Explorer does not fix it.
Selective startup does not fix it.

Running without drivers will not fix it (don't even bother suggesting it).

This is an issue that doesn't have any correlation to system configuration, The game that gets the most coverage with this issue is Starcraft and though that might get a Patch, its no doubt that the Age of empires games won't.

The freeze is not a hardlock, rather its a freeze of the display and input controls. Processes in the background continue running and if you are in a chat on skype or xfire these continue as well according to some users.

Someone mentioned a Race issue between Ddraw and WDDM, but i've no idea how to verify that.

Specific Starcraft issue is here http://www.sevenforums.com/gaming/11659-starcraft-freezes-after-1-5-minutes-playing.html
http://www.sevenforums.com/gaming/10190-starcraft-system-crash.html

but Issues for Age of empires and worms can be found across the internet.
theres even on here
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/w7itproappcompat/thread/bde26b63-e8fc-46ac-8541-7f8154c8328d

Note: All the fixes known to work on Vista, do not work on Windows 7.



i have done further looking into this with multiple applications which make use of double buffering or triplebuffering (and vsync). The results are that these applications when run in DDraw fail to lock the primary buffer and result in Screen tearing and also the drawing of the windows startmenu orb and flashing taskbar buttons to display on top of the application in fullscreen. Had the primary framebuffer locked, this would NOT occur. That said. This is a windows 7 bug spanning both X32 and x64, and video drivers have no bearing what so ever. The same applications work fine on Vista. The only thing i can think of is these applications are displaying the behavior of an application manifested for Windows 7, rather then older versions and so are unable to lock the primary buffer. more info here http://www.codenamewindows.com/?p=58



As I understand it, DirectDraw assumes it can lock the primary draw buffer, and Windows 7 itself draws to the buffer, since so much of the GUI is now done in 3D e.g. Aero. At some point they both try and draw to the buffer at the same time, resulting in a freeze of the display (both programs are waiting for the buffer to be released, neither lets go, and thus you get a classic deadlock due to the inter-process race condition).

XP Compatibility mode achieves nothing sadly - neither does XP Mode, as Squall mentions, the game can't switch display modes under XP Mode.



I've resorted to Windows XP in VirtualBox.



Anyhow, search for a program called ChaosLauncher. I initially used CL to launch StarCraft in windowed mode because my LCD would auto-stretch to widescreen, but it can also be used to play SC in fullscreen. It appears to take control of DirectDraw or something, I don't know the details, I've only ever dabbled in programming. The important thing is it prevents StarCraft from freezing on me.



here is another way however, it would require keeping starcraft in a window (which does work) and then scaling that window to desktop size.

coupled with warlord_7's colour compatibility reg patch it should work.
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Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4782 Posts
July 04 2010 18:47 GMT
#191
I've tried pretty much every solution suggested out there and the only thing that works is to dualboot to XP (or at least it is for me)
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
July 04 2010 18:48 GMT
#192
So, just to clear things up:

WINDOW MODE IS THE ONLY SOLUTION ATM
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olof
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden254 Posts
July 04 2010 18:56 GMT
#193
Window mode doesn't do it for me. Without mousescrolling and constantly clicking outside the starcraft windows it's impossible to play, hell I can't even watch replays this way.

I'm loosing it here. Do I have to choose between not playing starcraft and reformatting + installing XP - again?!
hi man O_O
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
July 04 2010 19:04 GMT
#194
U could always dual boot xp... I understand ur pain playing in window mode... bw runs slow for me too..
also, there is an option to keep the mouse inside the window.... are u using it?
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Mr.Pyro
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Denmark959 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-04 19:19:49
July 04 2010 19:18 GMT
#195
Close all applications running except for BW... No winamp, no browsers, no background applications, no nothing. If you close EVERYTHING it will run without freezing.

EDIT: Skype is ok in my experience, it doesn't freeze with skype open. Just make sure the window is closed and skype is only running in the background. Also disable screen popups.. Applications with pop-ups like, messenger, skype, steam etc. will make it freeze.
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Baksteen
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Netherlands438 Posts
July 04 2010 19:25 GMT
#196
Maybe this thread has some solutions for people still working on getting it to run?
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Bibzball
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France250 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-04 19:30:13
July 04 2010 19:29 GMT
#197
I also had this problem I tried everything that's been said in this topic, messed up the settings in Starcraft (Color cycling / CPU throttling), compatiblity modes, killed all unnecessary processes, changed the affinity etc... The only solution I had to play on Win 7 was to play on windowed mode... which sucks because 1x size is very small, and in 2x size I couldn't see both bottom and top part of my screen.

I finally created a virtual machine using Sun Virtual Box running on win XP just to run BW, and I can say it works really well.
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PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
July 04 2010 19:32 GMT
#198
I'm tired of people saying "Close Everything'' me, and many others have tried literally everything posted in this thread with no success.

I haven't played broodwar in months because of this, I literally stopped caring.
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Playguuu
Profile Joined April 2010
United States926 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-04 19:47:00
July 04 2010 19:45 GMT
#199
I've found a fix for the colors, perhaps this fixes the crashes as well. Could try it.

In Win 7, right click desktop, open screen resolution. Go to advanced settings link. This should open the familiar tabs (adapter monitor graphics, etc.). Play game.

Yes, leave the window open.
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blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-04 19:51:20
July 04 2010 19:49 GMT
#200
On July 05 2010 03:56 olof wrote:
Window mode doesn't do it for me. Without mousescrolling and constantly clicking outside the starcraft windows it's impossible to play, hell I can't even watch replays this way.

I'm loosing it here. Do I have to choose between not playing starcraft and reformatting + installing XP - again?!

click the little mouse cursor button on the top right, it will lock your mouse to within the window.

THE ONLY FIX IS TO USE WINDOW MODE. Closing background programs, setting CPU affinity, restarting/closing explorer.exe, compatability mode. NONE OF THESE WILL SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
blabberrrrr
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-04 19:54:59
July 04 2010 19:54 GMT
#201
I like how people continue to come in with posts like "ok guys I have solved it!!" when it has been a year now and it's universally accepted that there is no fix
DashFlow
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom176 Posts
July 04 2010 20:02 GMT
#202
Yeah, i had this problem and i didnt know windows 7 was to blame for it so i tried reinstalling broodwar, and then forgot the disk i was using was the broodwar one not the starcraft one so i now have to find the original disk... Stupid windows 7,

So yeah i have to play broodwar on my laptop or not play it at all now. :@
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olof
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden254 Posts
July 04 2010 21:11 GMT
#203
Is anyone actually playing in windows mode? The game becomes completely unresponsive, feels like your mouse is moving through syrup... I'm not sure if it's just my shitty computer doing this.

I really don't want to dualboot just for playing BW. It takes so much time just to play a game :/
hi man O_O
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
July 04 2010 21:16 GMT
#204
yeah the game or mouse speed under window mode seems weirder... it's like a mix of being a little slower and choppier...

but on my desktop I have a pretty big monitor so I'm playing under 2x mode and it actually plays pretty well
blabberrrrr
Skee
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada702 Posts
July 04 2010 21:17 GMT
#205
Am I the only one who absolutely loves Windows 7, has not had any problems with it that could not be fixed automatically by Windows? The only thing I had troubles with was DOSBOX and I got that working eventually.
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
July 04 2010 21:19 GMT
#206
I've also had no trouble playing SC:BW on Windows 7, on two different laptops and a desktop. Granted I've used a downloaded launcher after installing BW from the disk on my Vista computer.
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blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-04 21:26:18
July 04 2010 21:25 GMT
#207
yeah people's mileage seem to vary. I would say however that the majority of Win7 users have had it freeze at least once. I'm not sure whether to say you guys are simply lucky and you guys have it coming or say that it's computer dependent. But I really doubt it's computer dependent since no one has found any correlation between computers that have had it freeze versus those that have not.

In any case, do you guys mind posting your computer specs?

Here are mine
Laptop (it will freeze): Windows 7 64-bit. Intel Core 2 Duo T7250. Nvidia Geforce 8600GT M. 2 GB Corsair DDR2 RAM

I've used the downloaded version of SC and the CD version and there's no difference
blabberrrrr
olof
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden254 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-04 21:28:58
July 04 2010 21:27 GMT
#208
I keep refreshing the thread even though I know there's no chance of getting the problems solved... I got gaming abstinence and I refuse to play anything else

My specs are P4 D3.2 Geforce 7800 GTX 2GB RAM

Something that could be interesting is that about half of my installed programs are used with both cores, while some other just use one. Programs that should be run in x64 that is. I don't know why it's like this.
hi man O_O
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 04 2010 21:30 GMT
#209
I don't have any problems (other than the colors in the menu screens)

I'm running a desktop
Windows 7 64 bit
Intel Core i7 860
Nvidia GTS 250
4GB Corsair DDR3
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gillon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1578 Posts
July 04 2010 21:31 GMT
#210
Windows 7 64bit, i5 720 processor, HD5870, 8gb corsair DDR3.

First it 'crashes' and I get the application has stopped working messagebox, however; if you just ignore the message and X it down you can just tab up and keep on playing. After this, everytime the samething happens the screen just freezes for 2-4 seconds and no message appears and it doesn't tab down.

The crash thing just happen once per session of BW. I'm also killing the explorer process.
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iNty.sCream
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany195 Posts
July 04 2010 21:38 GMT
#211
reinstalled vista after beta went down, otherwise no bw for me T_T
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Bubbadub
Profile Joined November 2009
United States156 Posts
July 04 2010 21:43 GMT
#212
I spent awhile looking for a fix after beta went down... the fix I found to a "crashing" bug where your entire system just freezes and you cant CTRL+ALT+DELETE, but can still hear music in the background is the following:

1. Go to your task manager
2. Go to processes tab, and allow changes (click on the Show process from all users)
3. Go to "Set Affinity" for the Starcraft process, and DO NOT allow it to use all cpu's, just choose 1 core.

To those who have this problem, let me know if this fix works... after it I played for 8-10 hours straight for a few days before quitting SC.
Kaymeerah
Profile Joined July 2010
Norway26 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-04 21:56:22
July 04 2010 21:55 GMT
#213
Hello TL, First post here, long time lurker.

First of, 16 bit applications does NOT work in 64 bit Windows, and there is no fix for it. I didn't get StarCraft working in Windows 7 64 bit either. The colors is a simple thing to fix.

@echo off
taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
StarCraft.exe
start explorer.exe


EDIT: Forgot to add, copy this into notepad, save it in your StarCraft folder as a .bat file... For example starcraft.bat and run it. The colors should be fine now.
Long live StarCraft: Brood War!
olof
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden254 Posts
July 04 2010 22:31 GMT
#214
I still have exctremely low expectations in having this fixed, but I something just occured to me.

This freeze never happens when I watch replays, only when I play. And I usually watch replays online with the iCCup launcher, though not with anyone else (RONREY)
hi man O_O
qoiN
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden576 Posts
July 04 2010 22:46 GMT
#215
My solution was to use my old computer with XP. Only have to switch the monitor cable whenever I play SC and wait some time for the start-up. Felt like the easiest solution to me at least :p
Kaymeerah
Profile Joined July 2010
Norway26 Posts
July 04 2010 22:50 GMT
#216
If you are running a 64 bit Windoze 7, you can try Microsoft Application Compatibility Toolkit. Personally I never got it to work, but I did get other games which didn't run in Windoze 7 like Dungeon Keeper with it.


Ironic that a Windoze application works better under WINE at a linux based OS than on Windoze itself. Kernel changes is not always good, you know.
Long live StarCraft: Brood War!
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
July 04 2010 22:52 GMT
#217
On July 05 2010 07:31 olof wrote:
I still have exctremely low expectations in having this fixed, but I something just occured to me.

This freeze never happens when I watch replays, only when I play. And I usually watch replays online with the iCCup launcher, though not with anyone else (RONREY)


It's coincidence it hasn't happened while watching a replay
olof
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden254 Posts
July 04 2010 23:02 GMT
#218
On July 05 2010 07:52 floor exercise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2010 07:31 olof wrote:
I still have exctremely low expectations in having this fixed, but I something just occured to me.

This freeze never happens when I watch replays, only when I play. And I usually watch replays online with the iCCup launcher, though not with anyone else (RONREY)


It's coincidence it hasn't happened while watching a replay

Indeed 'twas a false alarm. Apparently I've been blazing through my replays as 16x without any chance of freezing... :/
hi man O_O
Odinsphere
Profile Joined July 2010
United States57 Posts
July 04 2010 23:15 GMT
#219
I'm so glad I found this forum before I upgraded. I have windows 7 sitting on my vista desktop waiting to be installed but I've been rather hesitant about it. I'm sure the problem will fix itself eventually but I would rather play BW on vista than not have it on 7. I don't know why everyone complains about vista but I know it uses a lot more space and memory to boot up/run so I guess windows 7 "unclutters" the coding and uses less memory for start up. I don't know too much about it but I'm guessing I'm not far off.
Kaymeerah
Profile Joined July 2010
Norway26 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-05 00:13:30
July 04 2010 23:25 GMT
#220
The Windoze 7 codes are just as cluttered, they just cut out the most cluttered parts.


EDIT: That was written in a horrible way. What I meant is the cluttered codes are still there, but not in use, which means there is unnecessary much space being used up.
Long live StarCraft: Brood War!
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
July 05 2010 04:48 GMT
#221
On July 05 2010 06:43 trypt wrote:
I spent awhile looking for a fix after beta went down... the fix I found to a "crashing" bug where your entire system just freezes and you cant CTRL+ALT+DELETE, but can still hear music in the background is the following:

1. Go to your task manager
2. Go to processes tab, and allow changes (click on the Show process from all users)
3. Go to "Set Affinity" for the Starcraft process, and DO NOT allow it to use all cpu's, just choose 1 core.

To those who have this problem, let me know if this fix works... after it I played for 8-10 hours straight for a few days before quitting SC.

People please read my earlier post.... problem persists after these affinity, explorer kill, driver removal, closing everything, etc. This is a real Direct draw compatibility bug with windows 7 which happens randomly... I've already tried a lot of things... sometimes I've thought 'oh wow 6 hours no crashing this must be the solution.... boom, crashes 2 hours later and same inconsistency on crash times continue

Again, the issue has no solution yet other than either playing wmode or XP dual boot/virtualization. Can some mod please keep this thread from people posting solutions proven that they don't work on an earlier post? God this is giving me a headache
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
Prozen
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States338 Posts
July 12 2010 15:36 GMT
#222
I can confirm with what never_toss is saying. I've tried pretty much every solution provided in this thread and I've deduced that there's no fix to this besides wmode, which sucks for playing BW since it's so hard to scroll your screen to somewhere else with your mouse. 2X Wmode is nearly unplayable since you can't scroll at all and everything slows down. There goes my streaming days for BW......
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Reptilia
Profile Joined June 2010
Chile913 Posts
July 12 2010 16:00 GMT
#223
it works for me and im running windows 7 32bits
although the colors mess up in the menu but all good in the game.
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olof
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden254 Posts
July 19 2010 15:52 GMT
#224
On July 05 2010 06:43 trypt wrote:
I spent awhile looking for a fix after beta went down... the fix I found to a "crashing" bug where your entire system just freezes and you cant CTRL+ALT+DELETE, but can still hear music in the background is the following:

1. Go to your task manager
2. Go to processes tab, and allow changes (click on the Show process from all users)
3. Go to "Set Affinity" for the Starcraft process, and DO NOT allow it to use all cpu's, just choose 1 core.

To those who have this problem, let me know if this fix works... after it I played for 8-10 hours straight for a few days before quitting SC.

I've managed to get this to work, but I haven't managed to do it with a .bat file.
Could someone help me?
hi man O_O
diablonhn
Profile Joined August 2010
1 Post
August 03 2010 10:03 GMT
#225
For people that are crashing in Win7 x64, have you activated your Win7 copy yet? I have an activated system with a genuine key and it never crashes, but my unactivated system always crashes. I think the crashing may be caused by the "Activate Win7 Now" message that pops up...
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
August 03 2010 10:11 GMT
#226
I have activated my system so there goes that theory.
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1972 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 10:26:11
August 03 2010 10:25 GMT
#227
I've been investigating this, and I think Spotify and Flash (ie, Firefox or IE with a Flash window open) causes the crash.
SneakPeek
Profile Joined April 2010
Philippines162 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 11:46:20
August 03 2010 11:43 GMT
#228
its not the activation. read never_toss's post. its the direct draw. no fix so far. if its for LAN usage, just download ICCUPs Chaos Launcher so you can play it in window mode. it works, but it sucks having a small screen and when you maximize it sometimes it goes over the screen -_-''
olof
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden254 Posts
August 03 2010 11:45 GMT
#229
Anyone know if I can have the ICCup launcher start with "affinity 1" straight away? Making a batfile to start Starcraft.exe with affinity 1 doens't seem to work well with the antihack launcher, and I'm getting tired of forgetting to tab out and change it through taskmgr
hi man O_O
slimdagger
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States84 Posts
August 03 2010 22:27 GMT
#230
Affinity is pointless. Now, all I do is: turn off everything -- then no more crashes so far. No Chrome, no skype, no bamboo doc, no outlook, -- I was having crashes all the time, and now, it's fine. Hope this helps. I'm using ICCUP launcher but not using any tricks, I'm leaving explorer running, not using affinity, etc...
olof
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden254 Posts
August 03 2010 22:31 GMT
#231
Affinity is the only thing that works for me. It's probably because I use win7 on an old dual processor (D3.2).
hi man O_O
SneakPeek
Profile Joined April 2010
Philippines162 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 12:33:12
August 04 2010 12:23 GMT
#232
i dont think you need to set the affinity of the chaos launcher to 1. just use the window mode option and problem solved, no color mess-ups, no lock-ups, just BW in a very small window.
olof
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden254 Posts
August 04 2010 17:16 GMT
#233
On August 04 2010 21:23 SneakPeek wrote:
i dont think you need to set the affinity of the chaos launcher to 1. just use the window mode option and problem solved, no color mess-ups, no lock-ups, just BW in a very small window.

Window mode is kinda laggy for me, the only thing that works for me is to alt tab and set affinity to 1 manually. It's not biggie but sometimes I forget and the computer freezes.
hi man O_O
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
August 04 2010 20:21 GMT
#234
Hmm, good thing I only play BW on windowed mode.

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cowkid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States28 Posts
August 04 2010 20:38 GMT
#235
I dont know if anyone already posted this as a solution, but im to lazy to read through 12 pages of it, so heres what you do.

1. right click broodwar and select properties from the list.

2. click compatibility.

3. check box that says run this program in compatibility mode, and then slect windows xp (service pack 2) from the drop down bar

4. next check the following boxes
run in 256 colors
disable visual themes
disable desktop composition
run this program as an administrator.

5. make sure only the boxes metiuon above are check if not it could mess it up


This will allow you to play the game as long as you want, the catch is that the menu has messed up color, the color is just some bad pixels its not anything drastic, but games have fine color. This is how i run Broodwar
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SneakPeek
Profile Joined April 2010
Philippines162 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-06 14:09:44
August 06 2010 14:07 GMT
#236
On August 05 2010 02:16 olof wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2010 21:23 SneakPeek wrote:
i dont think you need to set the affinity of the chaos launcher to 1. just use the window mode option and problem solved, no color mess-ups, no lock-ups, just BW in a very small window.

Window mode is kinda laggy for me, the only thing that works for me is to alt tab and set affinity to 1 manually. It's not biggie but sometimes I forget and the computer freezes.


did you set the window mode to 2x?? i think that mode has problems since it slows down the game. but i dont usually get freezes unless some background program starts popping out and interferes with my game and thats just killing the explorer.exe application
darkemperor
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Turkey725 Posts
August 06 2010 14:33 GMT
#237
This problem is because of Winamp. Everytime when Winamp is open in background, music doesn't have to play, it crashes.. and when Winamp is closed, there is no problem whatsoever.. I've played 30-40 successful games at different times and I've come to that conclusion.
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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9501 Posts
August 06 2010 15:40 GMT
#238
On August 06 2010 23:33 darkemperor wrote:
This problem is because of Winamp. Everytime when Winamp is open in background, music doesn't have to play, it crashes.. and when Winamp is closed, there is no problem whatsoever.. I've played 30-40 successful games at different times and I've come to that conclusion.

Please read the first post on this page!

This has nothing to do with Winamp. I used to reboot Windows and kill all non-essential processes and still the freeze would happen. That is until I switched back to XP! ^^
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darkemperor
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Turkey725 Posts
August 06 2010 16:48 GMT
#239
well.. my problem is because of winamp.. whenever winamp is open, system crashes and I had to restart.. but in other cases I had no problem.. not once or twice I'm talking about more than 50 try.. that can't be coincedence. anyway.. I hope you guys can solve it as well.. cuz Windows 7 rulez.
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johnlee
Profile Joined June 2009
United States242 Posts
August 06 2010 16:55 GMT
#240
I made a thread about this before when I had the same problem. I have windows 7 64bit and my sc started crashing after an adobe software update.

I tried different solution before getting rid of adobe because I thought: "It can't be adobe." So I removed adobe.. and sc didn't crash anymore.

But you can't do shit without adobe so I installed it again... and sc crashed.

So I just did a restore before the adobe update and now... I just don't update adobe anymore LOL and I can still view Flash.

I don't know if this would be a legitimate help or not... but it just worked for me
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TriniMasta
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1323 Posts
August 13 2010 05:57 GMT
#241
OK THE SOLUTION IS TO JUST SET COMPATIBILITY to XP and check all the advanced settings:
Run in 256 Colors, disable visual themes (and all the rest).
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darklordjac
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2231 Posts
August 13 2010 14:19 GMT
#242
Open up screen resolution and close every program thats not from the operating system itself. I find this fixes colours and stops crashes.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9501 Posts
August 14 2010 20:22 GMT
#243
If the only solution to crashing so far is Window Mode in Chaoslauncher, has anyone tried to contact its creator (XeNotRoN) and see if he can make it work for full screen as well?
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micro7295
Profile Joined August 2010
United States68 Posts
August 14 2010 21:00 GMT
#244
On May 15 2009 19:54 lazz wrote:
what the hell is windows 7?


im...im not sure man...
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buhhy
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1113 Posts
August 14 2010 21:14 GMT
#245
On August 15 2010 05:22 2Pacalypse- wrote:
If the only solution to crashing so far is Window Mode in Chaoslauncher, has anyone tried to contact its creator (XeNotRoN) and see if he can make it work for full screen as well?


Or resizable, that would be pretty cool.
squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
November 16 2010 13:03 GMT
#246
Interesting idea's guys, i'll keep them in mind, especially the possibility its audiodg related.
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1972 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-16 13:14:04
November 16 2010 13:13 GMT
#247
I'm pretty sure I've found a solution.

Go into a game, open up the menu. From there, hit options -> video and uncheck Enable colour cycling. Saw it on a Korean website, it's worked for me for the past few weeks with no crashes. (64 bit Win7).
squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
November 16 2010 15:33 GMT
#248
its one of those coincidental fixes and nothing more.
Tomken
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway1144 Posts
November 29 2010 06:27 GMT
#249
On November 16 2010 22:13 Garrl wrote:
I'm pretty sure I've found a solution.

Go into a game, open up the menu. From there, hit options -> video and uncheck Enable colour cycling. Saw it on a Korean website, it's worked for me for the past few weeks with no crashes. (64 bit Win7).


This has worked for me so far \o\
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
November 29 2010 07:40 GMT
#250
Oh wow, this has been plaguing my 2v2s with my roommate for quite some time now. Thanks Garrl got to try this!
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Weeuweed
Profile Joined December 2010
112 Posts
December 06 2010 08:20 GMT
#251
So did the crashes/hangs stopped for the people trying disabling colour cycle option? gonna try this myself later
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9501 Posts
December 06 2010 12:21 GMT
#252
On December 06 2010 17:20 Weeuweed wrote:
So did the crashes/hangs stopped for the people trying disabling colour cycle option? gonna try this myself later

On November 17 2010 00:33 squall leonhart wrote:
its one of those coincidental fixes and nothing more.

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Pezsmapatkany
Profile Joined January 2009
Hungary25 Posts
December 06 2010 13:07 GMT
#253
i used win7-64 for few months, and it seemed, that crash happen when palette is changing. so disable color cycling stop crashes while u play, but it still crashed for me when entering lobby, starting game, etc, everywhere where the color palette changed
squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
December 06 2010 13:32 GMT
#254
On December 06 2010 17:20 Weeuweed wrote:
So did the crashes/hangs stopped for the people trying disabling colour cycle option? gonna try this myself later


no. usually when the freeze occurs there is no palette change occuring.
Vikkekh
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden47 Posts
December 06 2010 13:38 GMT
#255
I found that it wont freeze in windowed mode so that was my solution for it all.
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squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
December 06 2010 14:02 GMT
#256
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1054365/exclusive-directdraw-palette-isnt-actually-exclusive

We can (sometimes) detect when this happens by processing the WM_PALETTECHANGED message. A few update versions ago we added logging (just log the window title/class/process name), which helped users identify offending applications and close them. MSN Live Messenger was a common culprit.

The problem got worse when we found out that Windows Vista (and 7) does it "by itself". The WM_PALETTECHANGED parameters point towards CSRSS and the desktop window. In Vista, a workaround that often worked was to open any folder (Computer, Documents, etc.) and leave it open while running the game. Sounds ridiculous, but it worked - in most cases. In Windows 7, not even this workaround worked any more. Users found that stopping some services (Windows Update and the indexing service) also resolved the problem on some configurations.
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4782 Posts
December 06 2010 14:56 GMT
#257
On August 15 2010 05:22 2Pacalypse- wrote:
If the only solution to crashing so far is Window Mode in Chaoslauncher, has anyone tried to contact its creator (XeNotRoN) and see if he can make it work for full screen as well?


Does chaoslauncher actually fix crashing? I've tried so much different stuff right now that I've ended up dugging out my old desktop which I frankly haven't got space for, so if someone could actually confirm this to work you would make me most happy!
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9501 Posts
December 06 2010 15:41 GMT
#258
On December 06 2010 23:56 Ghostcom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2010 05:22 2Pacalypse- wrote:
If the only solution to crashing so far is Window Mode in Chaoslauncher, has anyone tried to contact its creator (XeNotRoN) and see if he can make it work for full screen as well?


Does chaoslauncher actually fix crashing? I've tried so much different stuff right now that I've ended up dugging out my old desktop which I frankly haven't got space for, so if someone could actually confirm this to work you would make me most happy!

It's not Chaoslauncher in itself, but a Window Mode plugin.

And yes, that is the only known fix for crashing problems so far. The bad side is that you can't play in fullscreen, but rather in a Window (takes some getting used to).
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
December 06 2010 15:42 GMT
#259
On December 06 2010 23:56 Ghostcom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2010 05:22 2Pacalypse- wrote:
If the only solution to crashing so far is Window Mode in Chaoslauncher, has anyone tried to contact its creator (XeNotRoN) and see if he can make it work for full screen as well?


Does chaoslauncher actually fix crashing? I've tried so much different stuff right now that I've ended up dugging out my old desktop which I frankly haven't got space for, so if someone could actually confirm this to work you would make me most happy!

Yes it does work (for iCCup launcher as well; it uses the same plugin by MoC).
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9501 Posts
December 06 2010 16:20 GMT
#260
On December 06 2010 23:02 squall leonhart wrote:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1054365/exclusive-directdraw-palette-isnt-actually-exclusive

Show nested quote +
We can (sometimes) detect when this happens by processing the WM_PALETTECHANGED message. A few update versions ago we added logging (just log the window title/class/process name), which helped users identify offending applications and close them. MSN Live Messenger was a common culprit.

The problem got worse when we found out that Windows Vista (and 7) does it "by itself". The WM_PALETTECHANGED parameters point towards CSRSS and the desktop window. In Vista, a workaround that often worked was to open any folder (Computer, Documents, etc.) and leave it open while running the game. Sounds ridiculous, but it worked - in most cases. In Windows 7, not even this workaround worked any more. Users found that stopping some services (Windows Update and the indexing service) also resolved the problem on some configurations.

Interesting, but wasn't that already fixed with a registry hack?
And how much is this connected to the freezing problem? It's apparent that other applications changing the palette while Starcraft is running would mess up it's colors, but I can't seem to understand how it could be connected to the freezing problem.

Also, from that link:
http://hifi.iki.fi/cnc-ddraw/ - Seems like someone else did the Direct Draw hack, but this time having C&C and Red Alert in mind -.- Anyone with an idea of how much does it apply to Starcraft, and what's the difference between already existing Direct Draw hack (http://sol.gfxile.net/ddhack/)?
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
December 06 2010 17:08 GMT
#261
ugg, this really does suck. I still want to play BW but I can't do it on my current computer because of windows 7. I can't believe blizzard pretends that they still give a shit about this game when for over 2 years they haven't bothered fixing this crashing issue.
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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9501 Posts
December 06 2010 17:25 GMT
#262
On December 07 2010 02:08 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
ugg, this really does suck. I still want to play BW but I can't do it on my current computer because of windows 7. I can't believe blizzard pretends that they still give a shit about this game when for over 2 years they haven't bothered fixing this crashing issue.

You can still play. Try restarting your computer before playing and run as little programs as possible while playing. It should reduce chance of freezing, even though it appears pretty random.

Also, as much as I'd like nothing more than to make fun of Blizzard's "support" for BW, this is actually a Windows 7 problem, so blame it on Microsoft ^^
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BYT
Profile Joined November 2010
United States14 Posts
December 06 2010 17:52 GMT
#263
I've got a laptop with 1366x768 (or something) and when I run broodwar there, the resolution (fullscreen) is 1024x768, with black space on the 2 sides. But when I run it on my computer with 1440x900 it stretches the view completely so it looks strange. Does anyone know if I can let broodwar run in like 1024x768 but then x900 (dnno the exact number I hope you guys understand). I have no idea why its 1024x768 on my laptop though ... its the same windows.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
December 06 2010 18:22 GMT
#264
Couldn't Blizzard patch BW to work with it though? I figured a patch could go either way and fix the game by reworking whatever bug is crashing BW.

Its all random and that is my issue. I have crashed 5 minutes into a game and I have crashed 45 minutes into a BGH game, its very frustrating.
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Seide
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States831 Posts
December 06 2010 18:45 GMT
#265
On December 07 2010 03:22 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Couldn't Blizzard patch BW to work with it though? I figured a patch could go either way and fix the game by reworking whatever bug is crashing BW.

Its all random and that is my issue. I have crashed 5 minutes into a game and I have crashed 45 minutes into a BGH game, its very frustrating.

Now you have to ask, is it worth Blizzards time. You have to find the bug, fix the bug, who knows how indepth that bug actually is. Then you have to do regression testing to make sure you didn't introduce any new bugs.
Is it worth it for Blizzard to support a 10 year game? Which is generating laughable profit for them compared to WoW/SC2, if any?
One fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17726 Posts
December 06 2010 19:08 GMT
#266
On December 07 2010 00:41 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2010 23:56 Ghostcom wrote:
On August 15 2010 05:22 2Pacalypse- wrote:
If the only solution to crashing so far is Window Mode in Chaoslauncher, has anyone tried to contact its creator (XeNotRoN) and see if he can make it work for full screen as well?


Does chaoslauncher actually fix crashing? I've tried so much different stuff right now that I've ended up dugging out my old desktop which I frankly haven't got space for, so if someone could actually confirm this to work you would make me most happy!

It's not Chaoslauncher in itself, but a Window Mode plugin.

And yes, that is the only known fix for crashing problems so far. The bad side is that you can't play in fullscreen, but rather in a Window (takes some getting used to).

Add the fact that korean doesn't work with wmode .
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tryummm
Profile Joined August 2009
774 Posts
December 06 2010 20:14 GMT
#267
I can play on Windows 7, but the colors are messed up and whenever I alt tab out of the game while in a chat channel I cannot get back into the game.

So I have to create a game with a pw, then alt tab. Then when I go back in I have to hit ctrl+alt+delete then hit cancel.
powerbygood
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States54 Posts
December 06 2010 20:57 GMT
#268
For this fix all you have to do is ctrl+alt+del kill the processes name explorer.exe while u play sc. Then after you're done playing sc do ctrl+alt+del again then click run and type in explorer.exe and it should pretty much solve your problem for windows 7
us.insurgency
Profile Joined March 2010
United States330 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-06 21:13:48
December 06 2010 21:13 GMT
#269
On December 07 2010 05:57 powerbygood wrote:
For this fix all you have to do is ctrl+alt+del kill the processes name explorer.exe while u play sc. Then after you're done playing sc do ctrl+alt+del again then click run and type in explorer.exe and it should pretty much solve your problem for windows 7

creative solution, just shutting down the interface
Edit: has anybody had problem with college internet not allowing you on to battle.net?
tryummm
Profile Joined August 2009
774 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-06 21:15:33
December 06 2010 21:14 GMT
#270
On December 07 2010 06:13 us.insurgency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2010 05:57 powerbygood wrote:
For this fix all you have to do is ctrl+alt+del kill the processes name explorer.exe while u play sc. Then after you're done playing sc do ctrl+alt+del again then click run and type in explorer.exe and it should pretty much solve your problem for windows 7

creative solution, just shutting down the interface
Edit: has anybody had problem with college internet not allowing you on to battle.net?


My college internet runs iccup and bnet

However, interestingly last weekend I went home and my home internet modem and router didn't work on my computer...even though its always worked at college.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 08 2010 00:56 GMT
#271
--- Nuked ---
Zyferous
Profile Joined September 2010
United States270 Posts
December 08 2010 01:05 GMT
#272
I've never had SC crash on my windows 7 desktop or laptop. Both run x64, could that be it?
Jaedong forever.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9501 Posts
December 08 2010 01:05 GMT
#273
It's problem with OS (Windows 7).
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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9501 Posts
December 08 2010 01:07 GMT
#274
On December 08 2010 10:05 Infested_Noodle wrote:
I've never had SC crash on my windows 7 desktop or laptop. Both run x64, could that be it?

No, you probably just got lucky.

When I had Win7 I didn't have a single crash for a whole month. Then it started happening like all the time. It's random...
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ZZangDreamjOy
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada959 Posts
December 08 2010 01:14 GMT
#275
Same here, but another problem I'm having is getting the iCCup Launcher to work. It simply won't load SC.
HitEmUp
hixhix
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1156 Posts
December 08 2010 01:54 GMT
#276
It's windows 7 bug with directdaw, not blizzard's fault. Stop blaming blizzard.
squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
January 13 2011 11:08 GMT
#277
On December 07 2010 01:20 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Also, from that link:
http://hifi.iki.fi/cnc-ddraw/ - Seems like someone else did the Direct Draw hack, but this time having C&C and Red Alert in mind -.- Anyone with an idea of how much does it apply to Starcraft, and what's the difference between already existing Direct Draw hack (http://sol.gfxile.net/ddhack/)?


sol has discontinued development for ddhack now, and it is now being maintained by myself and a friend @ https://code.google.com/p/ddhack/

On December 08 2010 09:56 krndandaman wrote:
is this a problem with the OS or computers?
my new laptop with windows 7 has been running bw with no problems for the past month.

in the beginning, colors are messed up in lobby, but once in game, everything is fine.


Everything is not fine, play a map with water and you will see instantly the colours are definitely not fine.

@ all
I rebooted my computer once

started and played through escape from auir 5 or 6 times (restarting broodwar in the process)

then i started live messenger, and Starcraft deadlocked on the next start.... heh.

Anyone up for trying http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2386792
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9501 Posts
January 13 2011 12:35 GMT
#278
On January 13 2011 20:08 squall leonhart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2010 01:20 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Also, from that link:
http://hifi.iki.fi/cnc-ddraw/ - Seems like someone else did the Direct Draw hack, but this time having C&C and Red Alert in mind -.- Anyone with an idea of how much does it apply to Starcraft, and what's the difference between already existing Direct Draw hack (http://sol.gfxile.net/ddhack/)?


sol has discontinued development for ddhack now, and it is now being maintained by myself and a friend @ https://code.google.com/p/ddhack/

Wow, that's awesome! Please keep us updated as often as possible.

I would love to help with testing or whatever else, but I'm on XP due to this problem. Maybe I could install Win7 under VMware and do testing there? Would the environment be the same?
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dronescout
Profile Joined March 2010
Iceland246 Posts
January 13 2011 13:11 GMT
#279
This might be a bit over the hill but I solved my BW colors, crash and stuttering problems by using a virtual windows 98.
I will destroy everyone in 2017
squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-14 11:13:38
January 13 2011 19:17 GMT
#280
anyone can do that dronescout, the point is; we shouldn't have to.

Windows 7 should not run ddraw in a manner which even allows freezing.

On January 13 2011 21:35 2Pacalypse- wrote:

I would love to help with testing or whatever else, but I'm on XP due to this problem. Maybe I could install Win7 under VMware and do testing there? Would the environment be the same?


its just a ddraw to opengl wrapper after all, so it should work on XP as long as compatible display drivers are installed.

SP1 is incoming..... keep your eyes peeled for links.
MageKirby
Profile Joined July 2009
United States535 Posts
January 15 2011 17:29 GMT
#281
Good luck to people trying to fix this. I'm having BW withdrawal symptoms now lol
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
January 15 2011 20:01 GMT
#282
On January 13 2011 22:11 dronescout wrote:
This might be a bit over the hill but I solved my BW colors, crash and stuttering problems by using a virtual windows 98.
How?? Modern graphic cards dont even have w95/98 drivers any more, how the hell to run it?
Aah thats the stuff..
Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
January 19 2011 16:01 GMT
#283
This seems to be a working solution:

http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/community/thread/85949.html
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
January 19 2011 16:12 GMT
#284
^That isn't a solution, I still crash but it's very rare. Probably the best bet right now though.
skypig
Profile Joined November 2009
United States237 Posts
January 19 2011 17:12 GMT
#285
1. DISABLE the "Enable Color Cycling" checkbox in the Gameplay section of the in-game Menu. It worked for me.

2. Try the registry edits shown on pages 21 and 23 of this thread; this fixed my color issues.

Good luck.
Sandrosuperstar
Profile Joined November 2009
Sweden525 Posts
January 19 2011 17:58 GMT
#286
On January 20 2011 02:12 skypig wrote:
1. DISABLE the "Enable Color Cycling" checkbox in the Gameplay section of the in-game Menu. It worked for me.

2. Try the registry edits shown on pages 21 and 23 of this thread; this fixed my color issues.

Good luck.



Just wanted to say this fixed it for me aswell :D
I'm homo for Lomo, gay for GGplay, but at the end of the day I put my dong in Lee Jaedong
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9501 Posts
January 19 2011 18:20 GMT
#287
On January 20 2011 01:01 Sayle wrote:
This seems to be a working solution:

http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/community/thread/85949.html

There is no a working solution yet besides w-mode in Chaoslauncher.


But, here's a good workaround to make your Starcraft work on Windows 7:

1. Enable Window Mode in Chaoslauncher.

2. Change your Windows resolution to 640x480 and position your Starcraft in Window mode so it fits the screen perfectly.

3. Use Alt + F1 to lock your cursor inside Starcraft window, so you can scroll normally in game.

4. In case you can only change your resolution to 800x600 in Display Settings, click Advanced and go to Adapter settings. There find "List all modes" option and click it. When you find all modes, choose the one where it says "640 by 480, True Color (32bit), xx Hz" (note: choose highest number of xx you find).
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TeRRaNNoSauRuS ReX
Profile Joined January 2011
United States13 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 18:25:25
January 19 2011 18:24 GMT
#288
wait what exactly do you do to fix the color issue in windows 7?

the skypig solution
agarangu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile274 Posts
January 19 2011 18:55 GMT
#289
I play SCBW on linux, because is so much faster than W****** when playing online.
I tried playing Warcraft III on WXP and on Ubuntu (with Wine). In WXP I had a ping of 200-250ms. In Ubuntu a had a ping of 15-17ms. Really, I did not mean 150-170ms. And I was using the same laptop with the same disk space for each OS and playing the same game (DotA), on the same server.

Try Ubuntu.
What's a quote anyway?
MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 20:30:10
January 19 2011 20:23 GMT
#290
On January 16 2011 05:01 xarthaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 22:11 dronescout wrote:
This might be a bit over the hill but I solved my BW colors, crash and stuttering problems by using a virtual windows 98.
How?? Modern graphic cards dont even have w95/98 drivers any more, how the hell to run it?
Virtual machines don't directly access the hardware, so it makes zero difference if a card has a win9x driver. The VM uses a virtual video driver. It will pretty much suck at 3d, but guess what Starcraft isn't.

On January 20 2011 03:55 agarangu wrote:
I play SCBW on linux, because is so much faster than W****** when playing online.
I tried playing Warcraft III on WXP and on Ubuntu (with Wine). In WXP I had a ping of 200-250ms. In Ubuntu a had a ping of 15-17ms. Really, I did not mean 150-170ms. And I was using the same laptop with the same disk space for each OS and playing the same game (DotA), on the same server.

Try Ubuntu.
don't do it if you value your time. Just for playing BW, sure give it a shot. Making it your fulltime desktop is a waste though. Also LOL at the pings. The OS you use has no bearing on the internet between you and your competitor, which is what most affects ping. You aren't given special access to a faster internet because your ISP sees you are using an alternate OS. People mocked the KillerNIC for claiming it would improve your ping when all it could affect was your computer. Maybe a millisecond here or there. Same with your OS. You can't change the topology of the intervening network by changing your OS. What you are experiencing is Illusory Correlation
djcube
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States985 Posts
January 20 2011 01:41 GMT
#291
Is there any possibility that this directdraw issue with Windows 7 will be resolved in a future M$ update? I've been playing/streaming with windowed mode, but after playing on full screen for so long, it leaves a lot to be desired. Another user described it best when he said it feels like your mouse is moving through syrup in windowed mode.

I guess I'm done with bw until some kind of solution appears for full screen on W7 OS.
agarangu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile274 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-20 06:26:54
January 20 2011 06:25 GMT
#292
On January 20 2011 05:23 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 05:01 xarthaz wrote:
On January 13 2011 22:11 dronescout wrote:
This might be a bit over the hill but I solved my BW colors, crash and stuttering problems by using a virtual windows 98.
How?? Modern graphic cards dont even have w95/98 drivers any more, how the hell to run it?
Virtual machines don't directly access the hardware, so it makes zero difference if a card has a win9x driver. The VM uses a virtual video driver. It will pretty much suck at 3d, but guess what Starcraft isn't.

Show nested quote +
On January 20 2011 03:55 agarangu wrote:
I play SCBW on linux, because is so much faster than W****** when playing online.
I tried playing Warcraft III on WXP and on Ubuntu (with Wine). In WXP I had a ping of 200-250ms. In Ubuntu a had a ping of 15-17ms. Really, I did not mean 150-170ms. And I was using the same laptop with the same disk space for each OS and playing the same game (DotA), on the same server.

Try Ubuntu.
don't do it if you value your time. Just for playing BW, sure give it a shot. Making it your fulltime desktop is a waste though. Also LOL at the pings. The OS you use has no bearing on the internet between you and your competitor, which is what most affects ping. You aren't given special access to a faster internet because your ISP sees you are using an alternate OS. People mocked the KillerNIC for claiming it would improve your ping when all it could affect was your computer. Maybe a millisecond here or there. Same with your OS. You can't change the topology of the intervening network by changing your OS. What you are experiencing is Illusory Correlation


I see you haven't tried Ubuntu yet.
No matter what the ping was, the game effectively runs faster and less laggy on Ubuntu, and A LOT faster on Debian.
"Making it your fulltime desktop is a waste though." really? just a statement with o arguments? xD
What's a quote anyway?
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2748 Posts
January 27 2011 23:55 GMT
#293
buy a 100 dollar pc and put windows XP on it. It's worth it for broodwar.
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
January 28 2011 00:13 GMT
#294
On January 28 2011 08:55 Navane wrote:
buy a 100 dollar pc and put windows XP on it. It's worth it for broodwar.


I'll take it.
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GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
January 28 2011 00:16 GMT
#295
On January 28 2011 09:13 Taekwon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2011 08:55 Navane wrote:
buy a 100 dollar pc and put windows XP on it. It's worth it for broodwar.


I'll take it.


Or you can make you computer run multiple OSs. Saves your self the 100 dollars
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Frigo
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary1023 Posts
January 28 2011 01:48 GMT
#296
On January 20 2011 02:12 skypig wrote:
1. DISABLE the "Enable Color Cycling" checkbox in the Gameplay section of the in-game Menu. It worked for me.

2. Try the registry edits shown on pages 21 and 23 of this thread; this fixed my color issues.

Good luck.

Disabling color cycling makes SC crash a lot less, but it does not solve the problem fully, it might still change the palette at alt-tab and game enter/exit, so it can crash due to the lack of directdraw locking in Windows 7
The registry edit doesnt solve it either, it seems it only changes the palette update frequency
http://www.fimfiction.net/user/Treasure_Chest
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9501 Posts
January 28 2011 12:44 GMT
#297
On January 28 2011 10:48 Frigo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2011 02:12 skypig wrote:
1. DISABLE the "Enable Color Cycling" checkbox in the Gameplay section of the in-game Menu. It worked for me.

2. Try the registry edits shown on pages 21 and 23 of this thread; this fixed my color issues.

Good luck.

Disabling color cycling makes SC crash a lot less, but it does not solve the problem fully, it might still change the palette at alt-tab and game enter/exit, so it can crash due to the lack of directdraw locking in Windows 7
The registry edit doesnt solve it either, it seems it only changes the palette update frequency

You seem quite knowledgeable about DirectDraw, maybe you could help out these guys:
https://code.google.com/p/ddhack/
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V6
Profile Joined February 2008
147 Posts
January 28 2011 14:39 GMT
#298
i never had the crash symptoms and im running on win 7. only thing i have to do is click on desktop and open resolution window before starting bw.

oh i think i had crash before just in beginning when running it via cd, but mounting solved that.

strange how the same operating system can have different problems?
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
February 09 2011 04:01 GMT
#299
How would opening the resolution window possibly solve BW crashing in W7? They don't seem to have any links between them.
Gak2
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada418 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-09 04:29:54
February 09 2011 04:29 GMT
#300
the iccup link solution worked for me... though it is a minor inconvenience since there's no start menu or desktop icons when you alt tab, and you can't adjust the master volume while playing.
But it does stop the crashes and as a bonus fixes the colours!
TheBirdyNamNam2
Profile Joined February 2011
United States27 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 03:09:46
February 11 2011 03:04 GMT
#301
The fast fix is like this

1) Open command prompt as administrator.

2) Make sure you are on your partition drive(usually C.

3) Type in: bcdedit.exe /set {current} nx AlwaysOff

4) Then go to your run textbox at the start menu and type in msconfig.

5) Disable UAC in your tools tab.

6) If all that didn't work then put your SC installation in a different folder than program files and it should still run. Enjoy.
~I am the one true God~ :)
TheBirdyNamNam2
Profile Joined February 2011
United States27 Posts
February 11 2011 03:05 GMT
#302
You are vulnerable to several different errors because of the systems that 7 and Vista have in place. You have to disable them for SC to run. I've delt with the same crap a thousand times.
~I am the one true God~ :)
BoldMan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States168 Posts
February 11 2011 04:20 GMT
#303
i have trouble with windows 7 bw, but it never crashed

the only problems i have are the colors that are messed up outsider of games, but in games the colors are usually fixed, so BW has never really been a problem for me

but this is obviously some conflict in the programming; is there any easy way to fix this?

if you have a decent solution PM me the post please cause i might forget abotu this thread :D
[b] Bold men make bold statements [/b]
Captain Mayhem
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Sweden774 Posts
February 11 2011 05:58 GMT
#304
On February 11 2011 13:20 BoldMan wrote:
i have trouble with windows 7 bw, but it never crashed

the only problems i have are the colors that are messed up outsider of games, but in games the colors are usually fixed, so BW has never really been a problem for me

but this is obviously some conflict in the programming; is there any easy way to fix this?

if you have a decent solution PM me the post please cause i might forget abotu this thread :D

Been posted around here before, but I cbf to find it.
http://www.mediafire.com/?49rhgdq4o33ygor
Browse for the starcraft exe and you should be good.
Works for more than just SCBW, I can personally confirm that it works for Age of Empires 2 as well.
Gravity is just a theory anyway.
LunarC
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1186 Posts
February 11 2011 08:01 GMT
#305
You could just use window mode in chaoslauncher or iccuplauncher.
REEBUH!!!
Jubinell
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
333 Posts
February 11 2011 10:37 GMT
#306
On February 11 2011 14:58 Captain Mayhem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 13:20 BoldMan wrote:
i have trouble with windows 7 bw, but it never crashed

the only problems i have are the colors that are messed up outsider of games, but in games the colors are usually fixed, so BW has never really been a problem for me

but this is obviously some conflict in the programming; is there any easy way to fix this?

if you have a decent solution PM me the post please cause i might forget abotu this thread :D

Been posted around here before, but I cbf to find it.
http://www.mediafire.com/?49rhgdq4o33ygor
Browse for the starcraft exe and you should be good.
Works for more than just SCBW, I can personally confirm that it works for Age of Empires 2 as well.


And how to integrate this with...ICCUP?
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9501 Posts
February 11 2011 12:12 GMT
#307
On February 11 2011 19:37 Jubinell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 14:58 Captain Mayhem wrote:
On February 11 2011 13:20 BoldMan wrote:
i have trouble with windows 7 bw, but it never crashed

the only problems i have are the colors that are messed up outsider of games, but in games the colors are usually fixed, so BW has never really been a problem for me

but this is obviously some conflict in the programming; is there any easy way to fix this?

if you have a decent solution PM me the post please cause i might forget abotu this thread :D

Been posted around here before, but I cbf to find it.
http://www.mediafire.com/?49rhgdq4o33ygor
Browse for the starcraft exe and you should be good.
Works for more than just SCBW, I can personally confirm that it works for Age of Empires 2 as well.


And how to integrate this with...ICCUP?

Use this registry file instead.
http://www.mediafire.com/?364l65ejk3co67i

Extract and double click. It should fix color issues.
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DorF
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden961 Posts
February 11 2011 13:44 GMT
#308
I've heard form friends with Windows 7 that running the game in windowed solves the problem.
I've also heard that while in fullscreen you cna simply go to the ingame options menu and disable colour cycling and that should be it.
This is for crashes , I don't know about colour.
BW for life !
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9501 Posts
February 11 2011 15:21 GMT
#309
Windowed mode definitely fixes all issues. But many don't like it 'cause it's inconvenient to play. You can make it playable by right clicking the Chaoslauncher (or ICCup launcher) icon and choose "Run in 640x480" mode.
It's still takes little getting used to, but not so much ^^
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buhhy
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1113 Posts
February 11 2011 15:50 GMT
#310
In windowed mode, you can also toggle the x2 modifier, it makes the windowed mode 1280x960, but takes more system resources to run.
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2748 Posts
February 11 2011 20:05 GMT
#311
On February 11 2011 21:12 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 19:37 Jubinell wrote:
On February 11 2011 14:58 Captain Mayhem wrote:
On February 11 2011 13:20 BoldMan wrote:
i have trouble with windows 7 bw, but it never crashed

the only problems i have are the colors that are messed up outsider of games, but in games the colors are usually fixed, so BW has never really been a problem for me

but this is obviously some conflict in the programming; is there any easy way to fix this?

if you have a decent solution PM me the post please cause i might forget abotu this thread :D

Been posted around here before, but I cbf to find it.
http://www.mediafire.com/?49rhgdq4o33ygor
Browse for the starcraft exe and you should be good.
Works for more than just SCBW, I can personally confirm that it works for Age of Empires 2 as well.


And how to integrate this with...ICCUP?

Use this registry file instead.
http://www.mediafire.com/?364l65ejk3co67i

Extract and double click. It should fix color issues.


I don't know what kind of crap i got on my pc while doing this, but the 'registery file' did nothing, the 'patch' did fix it somewhat. Yeah, somewhat. Now the colors are sometimes messed up; they apear good but slowly mess themselves up once people for instance join and leave a channel.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9501 Posts
February 11 2011 20:55 GMT
#312
On February 12 2011 05:05 Navane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 21:12 2Pacalypse- wrote:
On February 11 2011 19:37 Jubinell wrote:
On February 11 2011 14:58 Captain Mayhem wrote:
On February 11 2011 13:20 BoldMan wrote:
i have trouble with windows 7 bw, but it never crashed

the only problems i have are the colors that are messed up outsider of games, but in games the colors are usually fixed, so BW has never really been a problem for me

but this is obviously some conflict in the programming; is there any easy way to fix this?

if you have a decent solution PM me the post please cause i might forget abotu this thread :D

Been posted around here before, but I cbf to find it.
http://www.mediafire.com/?49rhgdq4o33ygor
Browse for the starcraft exe and you should be good.
Works for more than just SCBW, I can personally confirm that it works for Age of Empires 2 as well.


And how to integrate this with...ICCUP?

Use this registry file instead.
http://www.mediafire.com/?364l65ejk3co67i

Extract and double click. It should fix color issues.


I don't know what kind of crap i got on my pc while doing this, but the 'registery file' did nothing, the 'patch' did fix it somewhat. Yeah, somewhat. Now the colors are sometimes messed up; they apear good but slowly mess themselves up once people for instance join and leave a channel.

They're supposed to do the same thing, by different methods.
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17726 Posts
February 11 2011 22:11 GMT
#313
On February 12 2011 00:21 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Windowed mode definitely fixes all issues. But many don't like it 'cause it's inconvenient to play. You can make it playable by right clicking the Chaoslauncher (or ICCup launcher) icon and choose "Run in 640x480" mode.
It's still takes little getting used to, but not so much ^^

This
I used to crash literally after 2-3 games always. The screen would just freeze in the middle of a game and I would have to turn my whole laptop off and start it on again. I used wmode and have never had a single crash problem or color problem since. I think once you set up your screen resolution there isn't really anything to get used too. Korean is broken on it but I rarely talk in game anyways and I usually ask obs to use ally chat so it doesn't really affect me. Korean works in the bnet channels anyways.

I actually tried wmode on all my other friend's laptops and not a single one had a problem after using it. It really doesn't take anything to get used to. You just have to change your resolution each time you play which isn't really that tedious to do.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Captain Mayhem
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Sweden774 Posts
February 13 2011 09:23 GMT
#314
On February 11 2011 19:37 Jubinell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 14:58 Captain Mayhem wrote:
On February 11 2011 13:20 BoldMan wrote:
i have trouble with windows 7 bw, but it never crashed

the only problems i have are the colors that are messed up outsider of games, but in games the colors are usually fixed, so BW has never really been a problem for me

but this is obviously some conflict in the programming; is there any easy way to fix this?

if you have a decent solution PM me the post please cause i might forget abotu this thread :D

Been posted around here before, but I cbf to find it.
http://www.mediafire.com/?49rhgdq4o33ygor
Browse for the starcraft exe and you should be good.
Works for more than just SCBW, I can personally confirm that it works for Age of Empires 2 as well.


And how to integrate this with...ICCUP?

Not sure what you mean. It works perfectly with iccup for me.
Gravity is just a theory anyway.
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2748 Posts
February 13 2011 11:05 GMT
#315
On February 12 2011 07:11 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 00:21 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Windowed mode definitely fixes all issues. But many don't like it 'cause it's inconvenient to play. You can make it playable by right clicking the Chaoslauncher (or ICCup launcher) icon and choose "Run in 640x480" mode.
It's still takes little getting used to, but not so much ^^

This
I used to crash literally after 2-3 games always. The screen would just freeze in the middle of a game and I would have to turn my whole laptop off and start it on again. I used wmode and have never had a single crash problem or color problem since. I think once you set up your screen resolution there isn't really anything to get used too. Korean is broken on it but I rarely talk in game anyways and I usually ask obs to use ally chat so it doesn't really affect me. Korean works in the bnet channels anyways.

I actually tried wmode on all my other friend's laptops and not a single one had a problem after using it. It really doesn't take anything to get used to. You just have to change your resolution each time you play which isn't really that tedious to do.


This is indeed the best option.

1) right click on chaoslauncher/iccuplauncher and go to compatibility options and check 'run in 640 * 480)

2) check windows mode in the launcher

does anyone know where i can find the shortcuts for windows mode? (eg: keep mouse in sc, double resolution etc) I searched but i can't find them.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9501 Posts
February 13 2011 11:54 GMT
#316
On February 13 2011 20:05 Navane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 07:11 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
On February 12 2011 00:21 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Windowed mode definitely fixes all issues. But many don't like it 'cause it's inconvenient to play. You can make it playable by right clicking the Chaoslauncher (or ICCup launcher) icon and choose "Run in 640x480" mode.
It's still takes little getting used to, but not so much ^^

This
I used to crash literally after 2-3 games always. The screen would just freeze in the middle of a game and I would have to turn my whole laptop off and start it on again. I used wmode and have never had a single crash problem or color problem since. I think once you set up your screen resolution there isn't really anything to get used too. Korean is broken on it but I rarely talk in game anyways and I usually ask obs to use ally chat so it doesn't really affect me. Korean works in the bnet channels anyways.

I actually tried wmode on all my other friend's laptops and not a single one had a problem after using it. It really doesn't take anything to get used to. You just have to change your resolution each time you play which isn't really that tedious to do.


This is indeed the best option.

1) right click on chaoslauncher/iccuplauncher and go to compatibility options and check 'run in 640 * 480)

2) check windows mode in the launcher

does anyone know where i can find the shortcuts for windows mode? (eg: keep mouse in sc, double resolution etc) I searched but i can't find them.

You can find them in wmode readme file.
Here they are:
  • ALT+F1      - Turns on/off cursor clip. (this is most important while playing in wmode. It keeps                   your mouse locked in SC while in game so you can scroll the screen with the                   mouse.)
  • ALT             - Temporarily inverts the current state of cursor clip while it is held down.
  • ALT+F9       - Toggle doublesize mode.
  • ALT+F10      - Enables/disables moving the StarCraft window.
  • ALT+F11      - Turn on/off always-on-top mode.
  • ALT+F12      - Enables/disables all buttons on the caption of the sc window.
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DanyalDenyo
Profile Joined November 2004
9 Posts
March 21 2011 12:49 GMT
#317
Microsoft released a patch that fixes the D2D/D3D bug

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2488113
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9501 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-21 13:02:23
March 21 2011 13:01 GMT
#318
On March 21 2011 21:49 DanyalDenyo wrote:
Microsoft released a patch that fixes the D2D/D3D bug

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2488113

OMG!

Someone tested this already? If this works..... I think I might tear up.


edit: also DanyalDenyo, epic 1st post in 7 years lol!
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ReluctantCoyote
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia7 Posts
March 21 2011 13:10 GMT
#319
Just wanted to say that I had this problem for quite a few months and found no permanent solution to the crashes, despite following this thread and attempting a bunch. Ended up doing the turn off colour cycling option (as well as passing it along to a few friends) and I/we haven't had the problem since. Thank ye kindly everybody.
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1762 Posts
March 21 2011 13:16 GMT
#320
On March 21 2011 21:49 DanyalDenyo wrote:
Microsoft released a patch that fixes the D2D/D3D bug

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2488113


Does this also fix the color issue?
asdasdasdasdasd123123123
DanyalDenyo
Profile Joined November 2004
9 Posts
March 21 2011 13:24 GMT
#321
On March 21 2011 22:16 ICanFlyLow wrote:



Does this also fix the color issue?



No it doesn't. You will still have to kill explorer or run Screen Resolution in the background.

I have been playing it every day for the last week and it hasn't crashed since. It used to crash all the time when I had anything else in the background that can play sounds.

I have Win7 32bit though.
DanyalDenyo
Profile Joined November 2004
9 Posts
March 21 2011 13:57 GMT
#322
On March 21 2011 22:01 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2011 21:49 DanyalDenyo wrote:
Microsoft released a patch that fixes the D2D/D3D bug

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2488113

OMG!

Someone tested this already? If this works..... I think I might tear up.


edit: also DanyalDenyo, epic 1st post in 7 years lol!





supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3046 Posts
March 21 2011 14:20 GMT
#323
On March 21 2011 22:24 DanyalDenyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2011 22:16 ICanFlyLow wrote:



Does this also fix the color issue?



No it doesn't. You will still have to kill explorer or run Screen Resolution in the background.

I have been playing it every day for the last week and it hasn't crashed since. It used to crash all the time when I had anything else in the background that can play sounds.

I have Win7 32bit though.

Or have windows classic theme.

I believe its the Aero/new interface that's screwing up the resolution.
ppp
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
March 21 2011 14:28 GMT
#324
On March 21 2011 23:20 supernovamaniac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2011 22:24 DanyalDenyo wrote:
On March 21 2011 22:16 ICanFlyLow wrote:



Does this also fix the color issue?



No it doesn't. You will still have to kill explorer or run Screen Resolution in the background.

I have been playing it every day for the last week and it hasn't crashed since. It used to crash all the time when I had anything else in the background that can play sounds.

I have Win7 32bit though.

Or have windows classic theme.

I believe its the Aero/new interface that's screwing up the resolution.

Yea who needs that crap anyway. The old win9x interface is more useful, compact, Way more responsive imo. Hence not exactly a loss to sacrifice for BW
Aah thats the stuff..
DanyalDenyo
Profile Joined November 2004
9 Posts
March 21 2011 14:35 GMT
#325
On March 21 2011 23:20 supernovamaniac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2011 22:24 DanyalDenyo wrote:
On March 21 2011 22:16 ICanFlyLow wrote:



Does this also fix the color issue?



No it doesn't. You will still have to kill explorer or run Screen Resolution in the background.

I have been playing it every day for the last week and it hasn't crashed since. It used to crash all the time when I had anything else in the background that can play sounds.

I have Win7 32bit though.

Or have windows classic theme.

I believe its the Aero/new interface that's screwing up the resolution.


I've always used the classic theme but I have the color issue o_O
Frigo
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary1023 Posts
March 21 2011 15:04 GMT
#326
On March 21 2011 22:16 ICanFlyLow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2011 21:49 DanyalDenyo wrote:
Microsoft released a patch that fixes the D2D/D3D bug

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2488113


Does this also fix the color issue?

The color issue is fixed by some registry magic, I'm pretty sure it's in the thread somewhere.
http://www.fimfiction.net/user/Treasure_Chest
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
March 22 2011 08:21 GMT
#327
On March 21 2011 21:49 DanyalDenyo wrote:
Microsoft released a patch that fixes the D2D/D3D bug

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2488113

sadly, this didn't do shit for me. In fact, made it seem like the crashes were happening more often :\
Writerptrk
Yodo
Profile Joined March 2010
Russian Federation327 Posts
March 22 2011 09:50 GMT
#328
Somehow it fixed colors too. 4 hours of test run - no crashes.
Nazza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1654 Posts
March 22 2011 10:23 GMT
#329
Color patch is here: http://mudlord.info/code/w7ddpatcher.zip

Just tell it to patch starcraft.exe and it should be less glitchy with the colours.
No one ever remembers second place, eh? eh? GIVE ME COMMAND
squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
March 22 2011 12:27 GMT
#330
On February 11 2011 12:04 TheBirdyNamNam2 wrote:
The fast fix is like this

1) Open command prompt as administrator.

2) Make sure you are on your partition drive(usually C.

3) Type in: bcdedit.exe /set {current} nx AlwaysOff

4) Then go to your run textbox at the start menu and type in msconfig.

5) Disable UAC in your tools tab.

6) If all that didn't work then put your SC installation in a different folder than program files and it should still run. Enjoy.


No, not at all. DEP has nothing to do with it, UAC has nothing to do with it.

On February 11 2011 12:05 TheBirdyNamNam2 wrote:
You are vulnerable to several different errors because of the systems that 7 and Vista have in place. You have to disable them for SC to run. I've delt with the same crap a thousand times.


Again no. Unless you plan on disabling DirectDraw, which then the game won't run anyway.

On February 11 2011 13:20 BoldMan wrote:
i have trouble with windows 7 bw, but it never crashed

the only problems i have are the colors that are messed up outsider of games, but in games the colors are usually fixed, so BW has never really been a problem for me

but this is obviously some conflict in the programming; is there any easy way to fix this?

if you have a decent solution PM me the post please cause i might forget abotu this thread :D

The colours may look ok, but they are not. Look for water and you will see what i mean. the only real fix is a wrapper or the reg patch.


On February 11 2011 22:44 DorF wrote:
I've heard form friends with Windows 7 that running the game in windowed solves the problem.
I've also heard that while in fullscreen you cna simply go to the ingame options menu and disable colour cycling and that should be it.
This is for crashes , I don't know about colour.


Disabling colour cycling has no impact. There is no reduction in crashes or freezes, the problem is random in its occurence in the first place.

On March 21 2011 21:49 DanyalDenyo wrote:
Microsoft released a patch that fixes the D2D/D3D bug

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2488113


No, this does not Patch anything involving directdraw.

On March 21 2011 23:20 supernovamaniac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2011 22:24 DanyalDenyo wrote:
On March 21 2011 22:16 ICanFlyLow wrote:



Does this also fix the color issue?



No it doesn't. You will still have to kill explorer or run Screen Resolution in the background.

I have been playing it every day for the last week and it hasn't crashed since. It used to crash all the time when I had anything else in the background that can play sounds.

I have Win7 32bit though.

Or have windows classic theme.

I believe its the Aero/new interface that's screwing up the resolution.


The colour issue is caused by explorer cycling the palette while starcraft is using it, Aero has nothing to do with it. You can run with aero completely off and have it work one run, and then not the next.

The crashes are caused by running any application that uses directdraw/GDI or directshow alongside starcraft, this goes for winamp, live messenger, even firefox. Audio applications HAVE NOTHING to do with it.

Now, we need help guys, obviously we can't get information for all games as a 2 playa team, so anyone who can provide debug info, traces, and can learn how to use the ddhack logger can join us on the ddhack project.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9501 Posts
March 22 2011 13:13 GMT
#331
On March 22 2011 21:27 squall leonhart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2011 21:49 DanyalDenyo wrote:
Microsoft released a patch that fixes the D2D/D3D bug

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2488113


No, this does not Patch anything involving directdraw.

Well, that just sucks.
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DanyalDenyo
Profile Joined November 2004
9 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 14:12:36
March 22 2011 14:09 GMT
#332
On March 22 2011 21:27 squall leonhart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2011 21:49 DanyalDenyo wrote:
Microsoft released a patch that fixes the D2D/D3D bug

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2488113


No, this does not Patch anything involving directdraw.



Broodwar used to freeze on my windows 7 ultimate 32-bit when I had wmp, chrome or anything that can play sounds. And it happened everytime without exceptions. Sometimes during the first game sometimes later, but it always happened.

After the patch I have been playing for more than 2 weeks without any crashes or freezing and I have music, chrome, and miscellaneous other proggies running and I have played loads of games -NO CRASHES-

Microsoft says the patch fixes the following symptom:


Assume that you run an application that uses Direct2D or Direct3D and that hosts Windows Internet Explorer components on a computer that is running Windows 7 or Windows Server 2008 R2. In this situation, the application may crash.


Edit: squall leonhart maybe I should tell my windows that the patch doesn't do anything involving directdraw and the problem shouldn't be fixed eh?
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1762 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 14:56:01
March 22 2011 14:54 GMT
#333
On March 22 2011 19:23 Nazza wrote:
Color patch is here: http://mudlord.info/code/w7ddpatcher.zip

Just tell it to patch starcraft.exe and it should be less glitchy with the colours.


URL Doesnt work
edit: NVM found a working one, thx
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Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2748 Posts
March 22 2011 15:19 GMT
#334
Many people run it fine on windows 7, including me. So you don't need to fix windows 7, but probably a specific driver.
mangomango
Profile Joined September 2009
United States265 Posts
March 22 2011 15:36 GMT
#335
It's still way to hit or miss.
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Nesserev
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium2760 Posts
March 22 2011 15:41 GMT
#336
--- Nuked ---
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
March 22 2011 15:46 GMT
#337
I can run the game and the colours are fucked but are alright in an actual game, its getting iccup to work thats the problem, i get a error msg saying "Error launching! Message: %1 is not a vaild Win32 application" so im unsure how to fix this
any advice is much appreciated
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squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 16:09:33
March 23 2011 16:08 GMT
#338
On March 22 2011 23:09 DanyalDenyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2011 21:27 squall leonhart wrote:
On March 21 2011 21:49 DanyalDenyo wrote:
Microsoft released a patch that fixes the D2D/D3D bug

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2488113


No, this does not Patch anything involving directdraw.



Broodwar used to freeze on my windows 7 ultimate 32-bit when I had wmp, chrome or anything that can play sounds. And it happened everytime without exceptions. Sometimes during the first game sometimes later, but it always happened.

After the patch I have been playing for more than 2 weeks without any crashes or freezing and I have music, chrome, and miscellaneous other proggies running and I have played loads of games -NO CRASHES-

Microsoft says the patch fixes the following symptom:

Show nested quote +

Assume that you run an application that uses Direct2D or Direct3D and that hosts Windows Internet Explorer components on a computer that is running Windows 7 or Windows Server 2008 R2. In this situation, the application may crash.


Edit: squall leonhart maybe I should tell my windows that the patch doesn't do anything involving directdraw and the problem shouldn't be fixed eh?



Sounds have NOTHING to do with it. the patch has NOTHING to do with it.

You're just getting lucky and maintaining yourself within the error ratio of chance.

The patch does not affect GDI, DirectDraw or WASAPI.

On March 23 2011 00:19 Navane wrote:
Many people run it fine on windows 7, including me. So you don't need to fix windows 7, but probably a specific driver.


Nothing to do with drivers. It occurs on Intel, ATI, Nvidia and S3 drivers under windows 7.

On March 23 2011 00:41 Nesserev wrote:
Fellow friends,

first of all, I want to warn you for my horrific explanation, since I run a dutch version, so I'm not capable of giving you the right terms, but I hope it's still readable -_-

I use Vista myself and I was able to fix the colour glitch without any patching. Even though vista and win7 aren't the same, it might (hopefully) work.

1. Right-Click the shortcut/the game
2. Open the settings menu, go to 'compatibility'
3. a) compatibility mode : windows 95
b) settings : all options activated (don't know if this is really needed, but it did the trick)
c) run as an administrator
4. Go to the 'Settings for all users'-options at the bottom of the 'compatibility'-menu
5. Repeat step 3

Now start the game and hope that it's alright ^^
Even though it's not for Win7, it might help those few vista-users that are having the same problems as everyone else here did.

I run a 64-bit version of vista.

Hope it works ^^



Compatibility settings have no bearing on the issue.
mudlord
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1 Post
March 23 2011 16:27 GMT
#339
Ugh, whats this crap?

DirectDraw registry hacks, like my w7ddrawpatcher are not a end all solution.
Forcing explorer.exe to close is not a solution.
Compatibility mode does nothing.
Wrapping DirectDraw > more recent API like the wrapper I am working on (and Wine) is a proper & solution.
ddhack developer
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9501 Posts
March 23 2011 16:36 GMT
#340
On March 24 2011 01:27 mudlord wrote:
Ugh, whats this crap?

DirectDraw registry hacks, like my w7ddrawpatcher are not a end all solution.
Forcing explorer.exe to close is not a solution.
Compatibility mode does nothing.
Wrapping DirectDraw > more recent API like the wrapper I am working on (and Wine) is a proper & solution.

Any idea when ddhack will be finished?
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squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
March 24 2011 03:45 GMT
#341
i wouldn't begin to try giving a timeline on that.

first things first is getting the default mode able to handle window positioning more efficiently, so as to fix the blackscreens on the bnet login page that altwinpos causes.

after that.... getting implementation to a point that it can handle other ddraw titles, and hopefully getting blizzard to whitelist the wrapper for official bnet.
DanyalDenyo
Profile Joined November 2004
9 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 20:15:17
March 24 2011 20:08 GMT
#342
so squall what are you saying?

You think that I am just lucky that since I patched it SC:bw stopped freezing the computer?

If the patch doesn't really address the problem and it fixed my problem then the problem I had has to be a different one from the others. Yet it has the same symtoms, Starcraft freezes the computer, sounds keep coming, screen freezes and the computer doesn't respond to alt+tab shift+esc+ctrl mouse etc. forcing me to power off

Are there anyone who still suffer from the problem even after applying the D2D/D3D patch?
CryMore
Profile Joined March 2010
United States497 Posts
March 24 2011 20:16 GMT
#343
Using Chaos Launcher to run in windowed mode seems to work for me. Playing through the normal launcher makes it crash often for me.
"What wins? 3-base Protoss or 2-base Zerg?" "1-base Terran"
ExceeD_DreaM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada500 Posts
March 24 2011 20:22 GMT
#344
I've had this problem for a long time and i fixed it.

Go to option, I think display, then UNCHECK 'enable color cycling'

you will no longer have BW freezing, but you will have color going totally messed up once in a while.
alt tabbing or pausing the game fixes this issue for me.

tedster
Profile Joined May 2009
984 Posts
March 25 2011 01:15 GMT
#345
This is the saddest thing in my life. playing in windowed mode is a horrible solution for me for various reasons and i have tried all the suggested fixes with no real luck. it suckssss
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floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
March 25 2011 01:45 GMT
#346
This thread never fails to give me false hope. I've also discovered that even if there was a fix, ATI scaling is even more broken than it has ever been
BoldMan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States168 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 00:15:31
March 26 2011 00:14 GMT
#347
omg is there still no fix to windows 7? =(

why are there 18 pages to this thread and still no solution

every ~6 games of BW, my computer freezes and i have to force shut down and run it back up

also yeah windows mode really lags up the game; every game in windows mode (even on fastest) is like 15% slower

edit: bout time scbw got a blizzard patch 1.16.2 i think
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aupstar
Profile Joined June 2007
Australia912 Posts
March 26 2011 04:15 GMT
#348
On March 25 2011 05:22 ExceeD_DreaM wrote:
I've had this problem for a long time and i fixed it.

Go to option, I think display, then UNCHECK 'enable color cycling'

you will no longer have BW freezing, but you will have color going totally messed up once in a while.
alt tabbing or pausing the game fixes this issue for me.



Thanks! That seems to work for me..
Firebats, the natural enemy of octozerg
squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 08:43:44
March 26 2011 08:36 GMT
#349
On March 25 2011 05:22 ExceeD_DreaM wrote:
I've had this problem for a long time and i fixed it.

Go to option, I think display, then UNCHECK 'enable color cycling'

you will no longer have BW freezing, but you will have color going totally messed up once in a while.
alt tabbing or pausing the game fixes this issue for me.



Not a fix. a workaround that extends the time before it occurs.

On March 25 2011 05:08 DanyalDenyo wrote:
so squall what are you saying?

You think that I am just lucky that since I patched it SC:bw stopped freezing the computer?

If the patch doesn't really address the problem and it fixed my problem then the problem I had has to be a different one from the others. Yet it has the same symtoms, Starcraft freezes the computer, sounds keep coming, screen freezes and the computer doesn't respond to alt+tab shift+esc+ctrl mouse etc. forcing me to power off

Are there anyone who still suffer from the problem even after applying the D2D/D3D patch?


not all causes of the DDraw freeze are the same. i've got both SP1 and the hotfix in question installed and can still reproduce the freeze partially in starlancer, a d3d game that uses directmedia/ddraw between missions, and the game freezes at random points while moving about the menu. Age of Empires 2 still black screens at random with no chance of recovery and starcraft still results in no input when WLM, WMP or FF are running in the background.

The more applications you have open that intefere with the colour palette the more likely it is to happen. I expect it would be reduced in occurence with FF4 and WMP2011 because of the usage of Direct2D/3D acceleration on the gui.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
March 27 2011 18:07 GMT
#350
Installed Windows 7 on my new PC the other day AND IT SEEMS TO RUN BW :D. No more dual booting and switching between Vista :3. And we all know what that means: more BW streaming!

I also plan on upgrading my internet connection next week, so hopefully I'll be back to streaming very often.

When I run BW I've been keeping the screen resolution window open and it hasn't crashed yet. I haven't tried it without keeping the window open, but I'll try it eventually. weeeeeee
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
March 27 2011 20:48 GMT
#351
Ughh wtf? This is unusually douche even for Blizzard. This issue has existed for like 2 years and they haven't patched it. It seems pretty arbitrary though which is the most annoying part. On my media desktop that I watch movies on BW runs without crashes in full screen, however on my desktop that I use for gaming it crashes. Someone needs to compile all the potential fixes for this so I can do them all. I asked Blizzard tech support and they just blew smoke up my ass.
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tests
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States160 Posts
March 28 2011 23:34 GMT
#352
Hey guys, I, like many of you, can not play on Windows 7 without the game freezing into oblivion. I decided to give wnidowed mode a shot and once I was launched inside a one vs one game I could only scroll up and right. Any idea how to fix this?
Time is money my friend.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9501 Posts
March 28 2011 23:40 GMT
#353
On March 29 2011 08:34 tests wrote:
Hey guys, I, like many of you, can not play on Windows 7 without the game freezing into oblivion. I decided to give wnidowed mode a shot and once I was launched inside a one vs one game I could only scroll up and right. Any idea how to fix this?

Press Alt + F1 while in Windowed mode.
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tests
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States160 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 23:48:42
March 28 2011 23:42 GMT
#354
That allows me to stay within the boundaries of broodwar. I did just that. The problem is when I am inside a broodwar game it does not let me scroll up or down with my mouse. just left or right.
Edit: It only allows me to scroll in all directions if I don't play in "2X" mode for Windowed. If i play without that than I can scroll in all directions (but that is way too small for my liking). Is there a problem with "2X" mode?
Time is money my friend.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9501 Posts
March 29 2011 00:06 GMT
#355
I sent you a PM but might as well post it here.

This is the best workaround imo:
1. Right click on your Chaoslauncher icon -> Properties.

2. Select "Run in 640x480 screen resolution" under Compatibility tab.

3. Run Chaoslauncher in Window Mode

4. Use Alt + F1 to lock your cursor inside Starcraft window, so you can scroll normally in game. (you only have to do this once).

With this workaround your desktop resolution will change to 640x480 everytime you start Chaoslauncher. That is also the resolution on which the BW is played so the game will appear to be in full screen, even though it's in window mode. One important tip is that you have to position your Starcraft window perfectly so it aligns on all 4 sides of your screen. If it's out of the position you will be unable to scroll with mouse in game on some sides. (After you exit Chaoslauncher, your Desktop Resolution will revert to your original one without messing up your icons!).
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
tests
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States160 Posts
March 29 2011 01:18 GMT
#356
Oh, I get what you mean by now. I did that for Iccup Launcher and it does load Broodwar in 640 x 480 mode. How do I position the starcraft window perfectly so that it aligns to all 4 sides of the screen? I just can't get that done...and I am able to scroll in-game up/left/right...but not down.
Time is money my friend.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9501 Posts
March 29 2011 09:41 GMT
#357
On March 29 2011 10:18 tests wrote:
Oh, I get what you mean by now. I did that for Iccup Launcher and it does load Broodwar in 640 x 480 mode. How do I position the starcraft window perfectly so that it aligns to all 4 sides of the screen? I just can't get that done...and I am able to scroll in-game up/left/right...but not down.

Since you can't scroll down it means you have to move the window little up. It's a little tricky but click on that red line at top and move it up so much that you don't see that line anymore. Play around with it, it's not that hard once you get the hang of it.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
Pippah
Profile Joined January 2010
Denmark353 Posts
March 29 2011 09:58 GMT
#358
On March 25 2011 05:22 ExceeD_DreaM wrote:
I've had this problem for a long time and i fixed it.

Go to option, I think display, then UNCHECK 'enable color cycling'

you will no longer have BW freezing, but you will have color going totally messed up once in a while.
alt tabbing or pausing the game fixes this issue for me.



Worked for me, havnt had any crashes since I did this. thx
squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
April 02 2011 22:45 GMT
#359
On March 28 2011 05:48 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Ughh wtf? This is unusually douche even for Blizzard. This issue has existed for like 2 years and they haven't patched it. It seems pretty arbitrary though which is the most annoying part. On my media desktop that I watch movies on BW runs without crashes in full screen, however on my desktop that I use for gaming it crashes. Someone needs to compile all the potential fixes for this so I can do them all. I asked Blizzard tech support and they just blew smoke up my ass.


simplest to state fix set 16bpp when creating the ddraw screen.

unfortunately its not so simple to implement
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
April 15 2011 16:17 GMT
#360
On March 23 2011 00:46 Scaramanga wrote:
I can run the game and the colours are fucked but are alright in an actual game, its getting iccup to work thats the problem, i get a error msg saying "Error launching! Message: %1 is not a vaild Win32 application" so im unsure how to fix this
any advice is much appreciated

Ive been looking for a fix but still unable to find one, any help?
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9501 Posts
April 15 2011 17:41 GMT
#361
On April 16 2011 01:17 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 00:46 Scaramanga wrote:
I can run the game and the colours are fucked but are alright in an actual game, its getting iccup to work thats the problem, i get a error msg saying "Error launching! Message: %1 is not a vaild Win32 application" so im unsure how to fix this
any advice is much appreciated

Ive been looking for a fix but still unable to find one, any help?

Try this: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/812486
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
massiv3attack
Profile Joined August 2009
Poland7 Posts
April 18 2011 16:19 GMT
#362
On May 15 2009 19:52 bitchaRd[raGe] wrote:
There were some topics about messed up colors in StarCraft under windows 7.
But i have other problem. Starcraft just crashes in my machine. I can play 5 minutes or an hour, but it always crashed after some time, so i have to shut down my pc and reboot.

Does anyone have similar problem? How it can be solved? Please, help.


Finally a solution from Microsoft themselves that worked perfectly for me. Windows 7 update: "An application that uses Direct2D or Direct3D may crash in Windows 7 or in Windows Server 2008 R2"
Here's the link: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=2488113

I've already played couple hours on full screen with no crashes. Good bye W-MODE .

You have seen nothing! Dissecting a dead Zerg in a lab is one thing unleashing them on men is another!
tests
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States160 Posts
May 03 2011 07:47 GMT
#363
For that website, http://support.microsoft.com/kb/812486, what is the "service" that they want you to use (in this case for sc:bw)? I am kind of confused.
Time is money my friend.
tests
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States160 Posts
May 04 2011 06:20 GMT
#364
bump
Time is money my friend.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16986 Posts
May 04 2011 08:43 GMT
#365
Don't post useless bumps like that.
Moderator
squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
May 19 2011 05:15 GMT
#366
On April 19 2011 01:19 massiv3attack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2009 19:52 bitchaRd[raGe] wrote:
There were some topics about messed up colors in StarCraft under windows 7.
But i have other problem. Starcraft just crashes in my machine. I can play 5 minutes or an hour, but it always crashed after some time, so i have to shut down my pc and reboot.

Does anyone have similar problem? How it can be solved? Please, help.


Finally a solution from Microsoft themselves that worked perfectly for me. Windows 7 update: "An application that uses Direct2D or Direct3D may crash in Windows 7 or in Windows Server 2008 R2"
Here's the link: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=2488113

I've already played couple hours on full screen with no crashes. Good bye W-MODE .



That hotfix does nothing for DDraw, All it does is remove 1 possible reason for a freeze where d2d/d3d (WLM2011 or firefox 4) is used in apps , it does nothing for mixing gdi applications. (Firefox 3/ WLM2009)
oxley
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia34 Posts
May 26 2011 04:47 GMT
#367
I used to have this problem a while ago so I just stopped trying to play, but today I tried downloading from the .exe you get from battle.net from the account page and I haven't had any crashes O.o
May all your hits be crits.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
May 26 2011 04:56 GMT
#368
Don't use ddhack, its terrible and gives me a ridiculous amount of fps lag. Use Mudlord's w7ddpatcher.

http://static.macuyiko.com/files/w7ddpatcher/w7ddpatcher.zip
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 10:09:03
May 26 2011 10:06 GMT
#369
On May 26 2011 13:56 writer22816 wrote:
Don't use ddhack, its terrible and gives me a ridiculous amount of fps lag. Use Mudlord's w7ddpatcher.

http://static.macuyiko.com/files/w7ddpatcher/w7ddpatcher.zip


mudlord is/has worked on both

the mouse "lag" is because Starcraft has a specific input rate which is nuked when Vsync is enabled, which for some reason it does by default, disabling Vsync globally or via a game specific profile resolves the issue and the most recent ddhack code.. atleast mudlords changed source supported disabling vsync directly via ddhack itself.

w7ddpatcher just applies some palette compatibility flags to the app, it doesn't fix the palette hang though.

edit

yes, he did commit the code and ini changes

https://code.google.com/p/ddhack/source/diff?spec=svn13&r=13&format=side&path=/trunk/hack/ddhack.ini
dna88
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada28 Posts
May 27 2011 10:54 GMT
#370
tried all tricks i read in this topic and none seemed to work.Had crash after 10min and if lucky managed to play 2hours whitout crash.But i read somewere that unistalling adobe flash did the trick.Seems to be working for me i havent had a crash in 1week everytime i wana play bw i uninstall adobe flash.
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-27 11:37:21
May 27 2011 11:36 GMT
#371
On May 27 2011 19:54 dna88 wrote:
tried all tricks i read in this topic and none seemed to work.Had crash after 10min and if lucky managed to play 2hours whitout crash.But i read somewere that unistalling adobe flash did the trick.Seems to be working for me i havent had a crash in 1week everytime i wana play bw i uninstall adobe flash.

BW just crashed again TT. I also tried every possible solution found here,but so far no problems with the patcher(just tried after the crash earlier, played quite a few games) + .bat but I'll also try and add this one. Thanks!
"Start yo" -FlaSh
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
May 27 2011 15:13 GMT
#372
I have Windows 7 on two PCs and BroodWar works fine on both of them... I would think that means the issue is not Windows 7, but the user. All I do is force 640/480 in the properties of the exe, and run as admin. Gives me zero problems. Maybe you guys are not on administer accounts and don't have the ability to right-click "Run as Admin" ?
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MageKirby
Profile Joined July 2009
United States535 Posts
May 27 2011 15:56 GMT
#373
would a XP emulator on Windows 7 solve the problem?
PrincessLeila
Profile Joined October 2004
France170 Posts
May 27 2011 17:00 GMT
#374
I have win7 32 bit home premium, and i never had any crash/freeze with BW, only usual color issues that can be overcome by killing explorer.exe.

My config is :
- motherboard : Gigabyte 945P DS3 (BIOS version : F13)
- Core 2 duo e4300 @ 3Ghz
- win7 32 bit home premium (french)
- nvidia 8800 GT (driver version : 266.58 for working nvidia scale)

I launch BW with Daemon Tool and a SC:BW mini-image
I didn't set any compatibility mode or resolution.

I hope this helps.
squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-31 17:32:15
May 31 2011 17:30 GMT
#375
On May 28 2011 00:13 Chef wrote:
I have Windows 7 on two PCs and BroodWar works fine on both of them... I would think that means the issue is not Windows 7, but the user. All I do is force 640/480 in the properties of the exe, and run as admin. Gives me zero problems. Maybe you guys are not on administer accounts and don't have the ability to right-click "Run as Admin" ?


I think you should stop posting.

On May 28 2011 00:56 MageKirby wrote:
would a XP emulator on Windows 7 solve the problem?


XP mode has this tendency of not working properly, but it apparently can run the game.

in a tiny window......

Virtualbox with scaling enabled works too.
dosbox
Profile Joined May 2011
27 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 12:52:32
June 02 2011 01:06 GMT
#376
hello squall,

can you brief me quickly on what the issues is on win7 and comment on my understanding so far:

-- win7 is preventing a directdraw process with a 8 bit palette from exclusively locking the front surface buffer, in the lines of:

...
IDirectDrawSurface7 *some_buffer;
...
result = some_buffer->Lock(NULL, &some_desc, DDLOCK_WAIT, NULL);
/*
where result is probably
DDERR_CANTLOCKSURFACE initially
then probably DDERR_SURFACEBUSY is dropped later on.
*/

this being the case, bundled user space processes share memory with starcraft and eventually cause a segmentation fault or something in these lines ?

-- this is a bug in windows and not something by design, where for example the support is intentionally dropped due to compatibility issues with some of the newer user space features and such a thing that application manifest don't cover ?

- it isn't caused by obvious services like the "desktop window manager", but by specific library calls contributing accumulatively to the eventual error ? are there more in depth details on such calls and methods ?

----------------------------------------------

very nice work on "ddhack" by you, sol and others:

i think i've noticed a couple of issues:

1) case winxp-sp2-x86:

[920] [35430843 +0ms] myIDDraw1 Constructor
[920] [35430843 +0ms] myIDDraw1::SetCooperativeLevel(00000000, 8)
[920] [35430843 +0ms] myIDDraw1::CreateSurface([108,0x1,0,0,0,0,512], 0014dc7c, 00000000)
[920] [35430843 +0ms] myIDDrawSurface1 Constructor
[920] [35430843 +0ms] myIDDrawSurface1::GetSurfaceDesc([108 1 0 0 0 0 0 512])
[920] [35430843 +0ms] pixel format: 8 bit, R00000000 G00000000 B00000000
[920] [35430843 +0ms] myIDDrawSurface1::Lock([null],0014dc80,0,0) primary
[920] [35430843 +0ms] myIDDrawSurface1::Unlock(01510020)
[920] [35430843 +0ms] updatescreen()
[920] [35430843 +0ms] primary palette is NULL
[920] [35430843 +63ms] DllMain(10000000,00000002,00000000) DLL_THREAD_ATTACH
[920] [35430906 +94ms] myIDDraw1::CreateClipper
[920] [35431000 +0ms] DllMain(10000000,00000003,00000000) DLL_THREAD_DETACH
[920] [35431000 +62ms] DllMain(10000000,00000002,00000000) DLL_THREAD_ATTACH
[920] [35431062 +94ms] myIDDraw1::CreateClipper
[920] [35431156 +0ms] DllMain(10000000,00000003,00000000) DLL_THREAD_DETACH
[920] [35431156 +62ms] DllMain(10000000,00000002,00000000) DLL_THREAD_ATTACH
....< enters infinite attach / detach loop >...

the starcraft window does not show and has to be terminated from taskman.

2) case winvista-sp1-x64:
building from the latest source (version which supports the .ini file) and then running it results in starcraft being choppy (in the lines of too frequent gfx updates). disabling vsync as you mention a couple of post ago from the ini or the driver (ati) does not solve this. giving the distributed .dll a try gives the same behaviour.

^ but for these i'm assuming that ddhack is not targeting win7 exclusively.

----------------------------------------------------------

mr. hifi's directdraw wrapper library is similar to what ddhack is doing:
http://github.com/hifi/cnc-ddraw

it renders directdraw surfaces in opengl, but its mainly designed for "command and conquer" and has issues on its own with stacraft.
i have made a couple of changes to the source and i would like people to give it a try:


************
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28720954/ddraw.zip
************


copy files from zip to starcraft directory, backup ddraw.dll if already exists.

known issues:
- very high cpu usage when toggling sound and/or alt-tabing between windows.
- there is a big change starcraft will crash on exit and not store its config like sound volume.
- mouse position in window mode is off unless you move window to top left position. so keep it fullscreen.

it would be nice if squall and others can let me know if this one works for them.some of the above issues can be solved. also there is a good chance that alt+enter between fullscreen and window mode can be added later on...

the above things are being said without contacting the author yet.

-----------------------------

in general i do not like this method of wrapping a graphical library with another one, which isn't very elegant and is a cpu hungry operation. if there is a way to force windows 7 into accepting what starcraft is doing graphically would be perhaps a better but hackerish way to solve this. which if possible, might trigger a AV warning or two...of course first of all the _exact_ source of the issue has to be found (which is most likely a difficult task), so possibly then some "hooks" can be introduced. or something...

...unfortunately, i don't have windows 7 or the hardware to run it so i cannot really help with that.

dosbox

--
squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 16:20:18
June 02 2011 16:16 GMT
#377
you're actually the first to try the latest svn, i haven't built it myself yet but the ddhack on the downloads page with halfnhalf altwinpos set in the cfg file is definitely smooth for me with vsync forced off in the driver. So given you tried the released binary i expect its a AMD/ATI driver bug in their opengl support, as usual its probably texture format related, so it'll get looked into as soon as mud has his new media box

On June 02 2011 10:06 dosbox wrote:
hello squall,

can you brief me quickly on what the issues is on win7 and comment on my understanding so far:

-- win7 is preventing a directdraw process with a 8 bit palette from exclusively locking the front surface buffer, in the lines of:

...
IDirectDrawSurface7 *some_buffer;
...
result = some_buffer->Lock(NULL, &some_desc, DDLOCK_WAIT, NULL);
/*
where result is probably
DDERR_CANTLOCKSURFACE initially
then probably DDERR_SURFACEBUSY is dropped later on.
*/


This is what is believed is occuring, though the later DDraw versions are more likely to not completely lock up the system. The version used in Starlancer for the menu's and interactive movement around the ship will only hang the application. You need to force the taskmgr to the front by bringing up the ctrl+alt+del options but its not a full system hang.

When windows 7 first released, there were also surface locking issues in the 16bpp modes as i experienced taskbar icon flashing on certain emulators such as nestopia. A hotfix released around april 2010 resolved this.

eduke32 can also lock up the system when run in classic renderer mode, and its a bit harder than starlancer to end task.

this being the case, bundled user space processes share memory with starcraft and eventually cause a segmentation fault or something in these lines ?


It does not appear to be a segmentation fault, usually such errors would take down the audio as well or make it repeat a certain track over and over, in all the affected apps this does not appear to be the case. In starcrafts case, the bgm continues playing as normal, even switching tracks when one ends.

-- this is a bug in windows and not something by design, where for example the support is intentionally dropped due to compatibility issues with some of the newer user space features and such a thing that application manifest don't cover ?


Given that a minimalistic environment can reduce the likelihood of it occuring i doubt its by design, the Windows site itself lists it as a compatible game as well

- it isn't caused by obvious services like the "desktop window manager", but by specific library calls contributing accumulatively to the eventual error ? are there more in depth details on such calls and methods ?


DWM does not have any impact at all on the problem, contrary to most popular belief, the DWM compositor is automatically disabled when an 8bit screen mode is set. I've gone through all the popular suggestions, such as disabling media players, disabling sound, dwm, setting the resolution or desktop depth to 256. None of them work. The only thing that works is minimising the amount of apps sharing the colour pool, which basically means killing anything that provides overlays or uses GDI. I suspect part of the problem and why its not a problem on vista is due to the WDDM 1.1 changes on how GDI palettes and windows are stored in video memory.

This isn't much fun at all, given you can't use xfire to chat with team mates in this case.
MageKirby
Profile Joined July 2009
United States535 Posts
June 02 2011 23:04 GMT
#378
http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=36371&pageNumber=1&searchQuery=windows 7

JESUS IS REAL GUYS
squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
June 02 2011 23:43 GMT
#379
old news
doesn't fix the freeze
only works on the english binary.
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
June 02 2011 23:48 GMT
#380
The OP or MODS (since this thread is old) should definitely edit in the successful fixes into the thread. None of the comments I have read have worked on my Windows 7 32-Bit computer yet, it still crashes.
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djcube
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States985 Posts
June 03 2011 00:02 GMT
#381
Not sure if this is the right thread for this, but is there some fix or mod to fix like the sluggish mouse cursor while playing in windowed-mode?
retRed
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States63 Posts
June 03 2011 00:38 GMT
#382
wow windows 7 still freezes, the colors are better but it still freezes.
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squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
June 03 2011 02:18 GMT
#383
There aren't any successful fixes.

only work arounds, and theories, and some random's posting crap that only works for them coz they run a minimal setup,
massiv3attack
Profile Joined August 2009
Poland7 Posts
June 17 2011 17:53 GMT
#384
[/QUOTE]

That hotfix does nothing for DDraw, All it does is remove 1 possible reason for a freeze where d2d/d3d (WLM2011 or firefox 4) is used in apps , it does nothing for mixing gdi applications. (Firefox 3/ WLM2009)[/QUOTE]

Seeing your deep commitment to that matter on many forums I'm sorry to say that you're wrong. I don't know why - but it DOES HELP. No freezes after this fix at all. I've tested it on 4 machines already. Maybe check it out yourself. I'm not the first one who says it worked. Maybe that fix does something more. Whatever it does - it fixed my BW for good.


You have seen nothing! Dissecting a dead Zerg in a lab is one thing unleashing them on men is another!
squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
June 30 2011 13:51 GMT
#385
Maybe stop being a noob, its already been applied on my system months before you even spotted it and IT DOESN'T FIX ANYTHING.
rm
Profile Joined August 2011
2 Posts
August 24 2011 07:09 GMT
#386
Here it is the fix for brood and starcraft on Windows 7:
http://www.2shared.com/file/6KseyP7v/ddhack.html


This should fix color problem and freeze problem. This ddraw.dll is a modified version of cnc-ddraw hack from here:
http://hifi.iki.fi/cnc-ddraw/

The cnc--ddraw had some issues with keyboard mapping and some mouse freeze in sc. I fixed them, rebuild, and here it is.

Have fun!
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9501 Posts
August 24 2011 10:36 GMT
#387
On August 24 2011 16:09 rm wrote:
Here it is the fix for brood and starcraft on Windows 7:
http://www.2shared.com/file/6KseyP7v/ddhack.html


This should fix color problem and freeze problem. This ddraw.dll is a modified version of cnc-ddraw hack from here:
http://hifi.iki.fi/cnc-ddraw/

The cnc--ddraw had some issues with keyboard mapping and some mouse freeze in sc. I fixed them, rebuild, and here it is.

Have fun!

Looks promising, need to test it.

Btw, I see you called it ddhack. You have any affiliation with https://code.google.com/p/ddhack/ ?
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
rm
Profile Joined August 2011
2 Posts
August 24 2011 11:19 GMT
#388
No. I used cnc-ddraw. http://hifi.iki.fi/cnc-ddraw/

I know about ddhack10 too, but cnc-ddraw is better. It has support for GDI, not only for OpenGl, as ddhack10 does. ddhack10 is very sluggish in starcraft because of opengl backend.

The fix I uploaded here is configured to work on GDI, because opengl is sluggish on cnc-ddraw too. I don't know why..
squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 14:07:52
August 24 2011 13:42 GMT
#389
I know about ddhack10 too, but cnc-ddraw is better. It has support for GDI, not only for OpenGl, as ddhack10 does. ddhack10 is very sluggish in starcraft because of opengl backend.

FALSE.
OpenGL has nothing to do with it.

The game expects a gameupdate based framerate, which can go as high as 300fps with enough screen updates. and having vsync enabled @ 60hz causes the game to only appear sluggish for this very reason.

cncddraw uses a different update system which doesn't have the same sluggishness, but at the expense of high cpu usage.

There is no performant difference between opengl and gdi with cncddraw, any problems you've found are caused by your local system setup and hardware capabilities.

The mouse freeze was due to the mouse offset hack which was enabled by default. in essence all you've done is changed the default configuration and claimed to have fixed stuff.
WhuazGoodJaggah
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Lesotho777 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-25 07:12:38
August 25 2011 07:12 GMT
#390
On August 24 2011 22:42 squall leonhart wrote:
The mouse freeze was due to the mouse offset hack which was enabled by default. in essence all you've done is changed the default configuration and claimed to have fixed stuff.


Have you even tried it? It fixes the key mappings, aka you can do control groups. With raw cnc-draw you can't use control groups.

I tried to use it in wine, and it doesn't reset the screen resolution if you close broodwar (with few other fixable problems), so unfortunately I still have to do a WinXP dual boot.
small dicks have great firepower
dosbox
Profile Joined May 2011
27 Posts
August 25 2011 07:53 GMT
#391
@rm:
i've already tweaked cnc-ddraw here (3 months ago or so):
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=229044
it should have a safer exit i.e. reset resolution on exit. (?), enable all keys..etc
---
then again the real problem is the bnet interface rendering, which is a massive involvement.
but also...even if a "ddraw.dll" like solution solves the bnet problem (and everything else) it will still remain, "banned" from the official servers.

this right here (which WhuazGoodJaggah started) might be a good temporary alternative (where w-mode is not sluggish):
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10634026

Frigo
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary1023 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-25 09:59:39
August 25 2011 09:56 GMT
#392
Hotkeys and mouse scroll stopped working under cnc-draw. Is it just me or someone else encountered this problem as well?

Edit: lol nevermind, apparently I am unable to read the post above
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stablol
Profile Joined July 2011
United States82 Posts
August 25 2011 11:14 GMT
#393
same shit happens to me
보아 사랑해요 짱
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
August 25 2011 11:18 GMT
#394
why dont you just use windows xp mode?
its a free giveaway from microsoft for windows 7, windows xp on a virtual machine.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/download.aspx
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
WhuazGoodJaggah
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Lesotho777 Posts
August 25 2011 13:02 GMT
#395
On August 25 2011 20:18 Heimatloser wrote:
why dont you just use windows xp mode?
its a free giveaway from microsoft for windows 7, windows xp on a virtual machine.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/download.aspx


Not everyone has Win7 Professional/Enterprise/Ultimate

Many have Home or Starter and those can not profit from this free VM
small dicks have great firepower
agarangu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile274 Posts
August 25 2011 13:59 GMT
#396
Install Windows XP and your problems will be solved.
What's a quote anyway?
WhuazGoodJaggah
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Lesotho777 Posts
August 25 2011 14:00 GMT
#397
On August 25 2011 22:59 agarangu wrote:
Install Windows XP and your problems will be solved.


you find the drivers for me?
small dicks have great firepower
MetalSlug
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany443 Posts
August 25 2011 14:38 GMT
#398
1. pick a virtual Machine programm of your choice, preferably a free one.
2. set it up
3. install Xp and starcraft on your VM
4. all your problems are fixed
MKP | Maru | Nada | Boxer | Supernova | Keen
agarangu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile274 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-25 21:24:21
August 25 2011 20:59 GMT
#399
On August 25 2011 23:00 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2011 22:59 agarangu wrote:
Install Windows XP and your problems will be solved.


you find the drivers for me?


Sure. I'm smart enough to know how to use google.

edit: This is how I play SC BW online.

1. I installed debian with just the base system, then install what I need.
2. Installed a VM with xP in virtualbox. Now, since the linux kernel includes most drivers, I don't need to look for anything, just install a package of virtualbox.
3. Install SC BW.
4. Play online.

You can change your default screen resolution to 640x480, so that when you open the game in the VM, it is actually in full screen mode. I do it before starting the X server, every time i want to play.
What's a quote anyway?
MetalSlug
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany443 Posts
August 26 2011 07:12 GMT
#400
On August 26 2011 05:59 agarangu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2011 23:00 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote:
On August 25 2011 22:59 agarangu wrote:
Install Windows XP and your problems will be solved.


you find the drivers for me?


Sure. I'm smart enough to know how to use google.

edit: This is how I play SC BW online.

1. I installed debian with just the base system, then install what I need.
2. Installed a VM with xP in virtualbox. Now, since the linux kernel includes most drivers, I don't need to look for anything, just install a package of virtualbox.
3. Install SC BW.
4. Play online.

You can change your default screen resolution to 640x480, so that when you open the game in the VM, it is actually in full screen mode. I do it before starting the X server, every time i want to play.


This.

i find it interresting that people can sit in front of their computer all day and play but dont bother to find out how to make stuff work or figure out workarounds.
MKP | Maru | Nada | Boxer | Supernova | Keen
agarangu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile274 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-26 14:07:35
August 26 2011 14:01 GMT
#401
Yeah, like if I wanna play SCBW online with no lag on my laptop with linux, I'll make it happen.

Seriously, there are few games you can't play on linux, using ether wine of a VM. SC BW and SC2 can both be played perfectly using just wine (but B.net interface looks really bad in BW, with overlapping text and staff, that's why I use a VM).

But, of course, most games require some workaround.
What's a quote anyway?
squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
August 27 2011 00:17 GMT
#402
then again the real problem is the bnet interface rendering, which is a massive involvement.
but also...even if a "ddraw.dll" like solution solves the bnet problem (and everything else) it will still remain, "banned" from the official servers.


the battlenet screen is almost completely GDI, ddhack doesn't implement it and cncddraw doesn't offset the resolution differences to remap the cursor area's on screen.
WhuazGoodJaggah
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Lesotho777 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 03:05:31
August 27 2011 03:03 GMT
#403
On August 26 2011 05:59 agarangu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2011 23:00 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote:
On August 25 2011 22:59 agarangu wrote:
Install Windows XP and your problems will be solved.


you find the drivers for me?


Sure. I'm smart enough to know how to use google.

edit: This is how I play SC BW online.

1. I installed debian with just the base system, then install what I need.
2. Installed a VM with xP in virtualbox. Now, since the linux kernel includes most drivers, I don't need to look for anything, just install a package of virtualbox.
3. Install SC BW.
4. Play online.

You can change your default screen resolution to 640x480, so that when you open the game in the VM, it is actually in full screen mode. I do it before starting the X server, every time i want to play.


1. Finding drivers for my netbook was a huge bitch to find, I had to use similar drivers and use trial and error (microphone still not working).

Changing the screen resolution myself to play bw? I can do this in Win7 with wMode, but the point is, that's annoying, I want an automatic resolution switch on Alt-Tab and when I exit the game, so I can browse with a normal resolution when I'm gaming.

On August 26 2011 23:01 agarangu wrote:
Yeah, like if I wanna play SCBW online with no lag on my laptop with linux, I'll make it happen.

Seriously, there are few games you can't play on linux, using ether wine of a VM. SC BW and SC2 can both be played perfectly using just wine (but B.net interface looks really bad in BW, with overlapping text and staff, that's why I use a VM).

But, of course, most games require some workaround.

I tried almost every patch I could find to make StarCraft work not slow (DIB engine f.e.) with my Linux, but none worked. I also tried the VirtualBox solution, but couldn't be fucked to switch the resolution myself, thats like playing with Win7 in compatibility mode, just annoying.

Do you own a copy of WinXP? Not everyone does and not everyone wants to pirate it, so you shouldn't imply that people are incompetent just because they don't want to pirate WinXP.

On August 26 2011 16:12 MetalSlug wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 05:59 agarangu wrote:
On August 25 2011 23:00 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote:
On August 25 2011 22:59 agarangu wrote:
Install Windows XP and your problems will be solved.


you find the drivers for me?


Sure. I'm smart enough to know how to use google.

edit: This is how I play SC BW online.

1. I installed debian with just the base system, then install what I need.
2. Installed a VM with xP in virtualbox. Now, since the linux kernel includes most drivers, I don't need to look for anything, just install a package of virtualbox.
3. Install SC BW.
4. Play online.

You can change your default screen resolution to 640x480, so that when you open the game in the VM, it is actually in full screen mode. I do it before starting the X server, every time i want to play.


This.

i find it interesting that people can sit in front of their computer all day and play but dont bother to find out how to make stuff work or figure out workarounds.


Are you including me in these "people"? If you do you should maybe read what kinda workarounds I've done to make it working on Win7 and Wine. But hey, hating is always the best, right?

If you switch your desktop resolution every time you use your virtual machine, I'd say my auto res changer is a way better workaround and works almost perfect for me.
small dicks have great firepower
agarangu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile274 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 15:16:54
August 27 2011 15:08 GMT
#404
On August 27 2011 12:03 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 05:59 agarangu wrote:
On August 25 2011 23:00 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote:
On August 25 2011 22:59 agarangu wrote:
Install Windows XP and your problems will be solved.


you find the drivers for me?


Sure. I'm smart enough to know how to use google.

edit: This is how I play SC BW online.

1. I installed debian with just the base system, then install what I need.
2. Installed a VM with xP in virtualbox. Now, since the linux kernel includes most drivers, I don't need to look for anything, just install a package of virtualbox.
3. Install SC BW.
4. Play online.

You can change your default screen resolution to 640x480, so that when you open the game in the VM, it is actually in full screen mode. I do it before starting the X server, every time i want to play.


1. Finding drivers for my netbook was a huge bitch to find, I had to use similar drivers and use trial and error (microphone still not working).

Changing the screen resolution myself to play bw? I can do this in Win7 with wMode, but the point is, that's annoying, I want an automatic resolution switch on Alt-Tab and when I exit the game, so I can browse with a normal resolution when I'm gaming.

Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 23:01 agarangu wrote:
Yeah, like if I wanna play SCBW online with no lag on my laptop with linux, I'll make it happen.

Seriously, there are few games you can't play on linux, using ether wine of a VM. SC BW and SC2 can both be played perfectly using just wine (but B.net interface looks really bad in BW, with overlapping text and staff, that's why I use a VM).

But, of course, most games require some workaround.

I tried almost every patch I could find to make StarCraft work not slow (DIB engine f.e.) with my Linux, but none worked. I also tried the VirtualBox solution, but couldn't be fucked to switch the resolution myself, thats like playing with Win7 in compatibility mode, just annoying.

Do you own a copy of WinXP? Not everyone does and not everyone wants to pirate it, so you shouldn't imply that people are incompetent just because they don't want to pirate WinXP.



You can write a simple script to do that.
That's right, after reading a manual for 10 minutes you will be able to write an executable script.

Linux is not about patches dude. If you wanna system where everything will work perfectly, you'll have to create one LOL
If you want to play SC in an OS that perfectly compatible with it, and don't wan't to buy a copy of XP, then you might want to buy a copy of Win 98.
What's a quote anyway?
Pulzlulz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany412 Posts
September 03 2011 14:08 GMT
#405
I have the problem that I can't install any Drivers except DirectX and SC:BW gives me an error when starting.
[image loading]
Said settings didn't work as well.

Can anyone help?
squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
September 04 2011 06:34 GMT
#406
XP Mode cannot run starcraft at default settings, desktop mode switching is disabled because of the remote integration, you can resolve this by disabling Integration Features

this and other methods are listed at http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/w7itprovirt/thread/12a17fa5-ddab-4480-8973-1a13bfb2e8fd
myriad110
Profile Joined July 2011
Romania11 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-04 08:11:02
September 04 2011 08:08 GMT
#407
end sidebar.exe
end explorer.exe
set the highest running program on NOT cpu 0 or NOT on 0 1 and 2 if you have more.
set broodwar.exe + chaoslauncher.exe (if u have it) + iccuplauncher.exe (if u have it) to cpu 0
(You set the affinity (aka core) by right clicking the .exe in task manager)

DO NOT run winamp or other programs that take over your audio stuff (idk why but it sometimes crashes if you do have those things open)
(Vent and Teamspeak are usually okay though)

On Win 7 x64

~~ You can restart the explorer or sidebar if you want to by ctrl + alt + deleting and going to file -> run and typing the name of the exe's (ex: explorer.exe)
gosuMalicE
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada676 Posts
September 04 2011 08:40 GMT
#408
1.Start BW
2.Control+shift+escape
3.go to processes tab
4.close explorer process (this will fix colors and crashes, at least it does for me)
5 shift+ tab back to BW and play
6. when done control+shift+escape again
7.file->newtask/run->explorer
I play Protoss, because lets face it, who doesn't love hyper-advanced Egyptian ninja-aliens that kill people with lightsabres attached to both arms?
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1688 Posts
September 04 2011 10:14 GMT
#409
It's so weird, I experience no problems with W7 and BW. Could it also be a hardware compatibility issue, such as specific GPU win7 drivers disagreeing with BW?

Would be interesting to see. I currently use Nvidia 470 on my laptop, 480 on my main PC, both running Win7 x64.
EleGant[AoV]
squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
September 05 2011 12:21 GMT
#410
On September 04 2011 17:08 myriad110 wrote:
end sidebar.exe
end explorer.exe
set the highest running program on NOT cpu 0 or NOT on 0 1 and 2 if you have more.
set broodwar.exe + chaoslauncher.exe (if u have it) + iccuplauncher.exe (if u have it) to cpu 0
(You set the affinity (aka core) by right clicking the .exe in task manager)

DO NOT run winamp or other programs that take over your audio stuff (idk why but it sometimes crashes if you do have those things open)
(Vent and Teamspeak are usually okay though)

On Win 7 x64

~~ You can restart the explorer or sidebar if you want to by ctrl + alt + deleting and going to file -> run and typing the name of the exe's (ex: explorer.exe)


Its not anything to do with audio applications, its all to do with GDI applications trying to steal and relock the palette.

and your solution is bogus because these 2 applications aren't the only ones to intrude, CSRSS also does, and i'd like to see you close that without crashing the windows session.

applying the ddraw compatibility keys via w7ddpatcher or dd compatiblity tool work, but don't resolve the crash, which your solution is also not a fix to.
squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
September 05 2011 12:24 GMT
#411
On September 04 2011 19:14 ImbaTosS wrote:
It's so weird, I experience no problems with W7 and BW. Could it also be a hardware compatibility issue, such as specific GPU win7 drivers disagreeing with BW?
.


No, it occurs on any chipset platform with any vendors display drivers / hardware.

the combination of GDI apps running in the background increase the chance of it happening.

like for instance if you run WMP12 with one of the ancient gdi visualizations from XP times., you're guaranteed a freeze within minutes.
SoniStreet
Profile Joined October 2010
Macedonia98 Posts
November 04 2011 12:27 GMT
#412
On September 04 2011 17:40 gosuMalicE wrote:
1.Start BW
2.Control+shift+escape
3.go to processes tab
4.close explorer process (this will fix colors and crashes, at least it does for me)
5 shift+ tab back to BW and play
6. when done control+shift+escape again
7.file->newtask/run->explorer


<3<3 Thank you for this, it worked like a charm.
Do the thing you fear and the death of fear is certain
squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
November 15 2011 16:36 GMT
#413
On November 04 2011 21:27 SoniStreet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2011 17:40 gosuMalicE wrote:
1.Start BW
2.Control+shift+escape
3.go to processes tab
4.close explorer process (this will fix colors and crashes, at least it does for me)
5 shift+ tab back to BW and play
6. when done control+shift+escape again
7.file->newtask/run->explorer


<3<3 Thank you for this, it worked like a charm.


people still using and suggesting this need to be shot.
point blank in the face.
Proteinclock
Profile Joined January 2012
4 Posts
January 30 2012 02:45 GMT
#414
On December 18 2009 05:49 mizore wrote:
I've tried running every fix listed here but I still can not get BroodWar to work. My problem sounds a bit different than the ones that are listed here though.

Everytime I click on multiplayer > expansion, BroodWar crashes and gives me this error :

The instruction at 0x004dd66e referenced memory at 0x00000018. The memory could not be written. Click on OK to terminate the program.

Any help in getting this to work would be appreciated... I don't mind somebody remotely accessing my computer to get it to work either.


sorry for the long bump, but i actually have a friend this very specific problem, and i cant find any information about it anywhere on teamliquid or google, this user found the solution but didnt share, does anyone have any insight on this?

your help is appreciated
squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
February 09 2012 05:33 GMT
#415
its a memory access exception, probably running a Core 2 with the DEP erratum.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4748 Posts
February 13 2012 21:14 GMT
#416
On January 30 2012 11:45 Proteinclock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2009 05:49 mizore wrote:
I've tried running every fix listed here but I still can not get BroodWar to work. My problem sounds a bit different than the ones that are listed here though.

Everytime I click on multiplayer > expansion, BroodWar crashes and gives me this error :

The instruction at 0x004dd66e referenced memory at 0x00000018. The memory could not be written. Click on OK to terminate the program.

Any help in getting this to work would be appreciated... I don't mind somebody remotely accessing my computer to get it to work either.


sorry for the long bump, but i actually have a friend this very specific problem, and i cant find any information about it anywhere on teamliquid or google, this user found the solution but didnt share, does anyone have any insight on this?

your help is appreciated


I have the same problem, I looked through the thread but found no solution. Any ideas?
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IMLyte
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada714 Posts
February 13 2012 21:22 GMT
#417
you have to right click>properties>compatibility>Windows Xp that fixed it for me.
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Garmer
Profile Joined October 2010
1286 Posts
February 13 2012 21:39 GMT
#418
try this

SCBWregx64
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4748 Posts
February 13 2012 21:46 GMT
#419
On February 14 2012 06:39 Garmer wrote:
try this

SCBWregx64



Mind telling me what it is before I go downloading it?

And compatibility mode doesn't work, trust me, I've tried.
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Garmer
Profile Joined October 2010
1286 Posts
February 13 2012 21:57 GMT
#420
is a scbw regedit, to fix the colors issue, was made by blizzard
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4748 Posts
February 13 2012 22:01 GMT
#421
On February 14 2012 06:57 Garmer wrote:
is a scbw regedit, to fix the colors issue, was made by blizzard



that's not my issue, I get the error that the other guy did. But thanks anyway!
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Garmer
Profile Joined October 2010
1286 Posts
February 13 2012 22:13 GMT
#422
dunno if helping, but i can play on windows 7 without any crysh, perhaps the regedit that i posted, has fixed also the crush
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4748 Posts
February 13 2012 22:16 GMT
#423
On February 14 2012 07:13 Garmer wrote:
dunno if helping, but i can play on windows 7 without any crysh, perhaps the regedit that i posted, has fixed also the crush


It did not
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Garmer
Profile Joined October 2010
1286 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 22:24:02
February 13 2012 22:21 GMT
#424
maybe you have some drivers issue, or your windows got several problem from the first installation(bsod, other general error ecc... they could ruin your reg), try on another computer if u can

the only other solution is format c, but it too extreme i suppose....
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4748 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 00:05:43
February 13 2012 22:26 GMT
#425
I played one bnet game one time, since i last installed it. I don't know what happened on between then and now. I can try re-installing, hope it saves my campaign in progress (doubt it).


edit: So I re-installed the game and can now log on. haven't had the chance to play and see if it crashes mid game, but so far so good.
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Pucca
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Taiwan1280 Posts
February 16 2012 15:40 GMT
#426
Actually this is a well known issue. As I do run windows 7 I do experience this major problem. After maybe 48 hours of research on the topic I finally found the origin of the problem. It has to do with windows explorer runs but Brood War changes something in windows explorer and this will cause your machine to freeze.

Do you listen to iTunes while playing? Well if you do that is why you can still here the music play and continue to play after your compute freezes. There are multible things I found to help prolong the time before the game will freeze. Again this will only minimize the chance of the game freezing but it has helped me so much.

1) Don't run any background programs while playing like skype, xfire and stream. If you need them to run in the background make sure they are running in the background with no other windows are open. Also make sure nothing is maximazed windows while playing BW this tends to increase the chance of the game signifcantly

2) Try lowering your setting to 800x600 which also helps reduce the chance of the game freezing.

Now if you don't need full screen and run through the iccup's launcher then you are able to run in windowed mode which will never freeze your game. Also if the minimized version is to small then you can press the 2x button in the top right of it however you need atleast 1080x1920 resolution or higher for that to display properly. I recommend run our system in 800x 600 mode and then run in windowed mode since this help first with streaming if your planning to and you can see the game much easier.

I hope this helps since I am a Brood war fanatic and I have much experience trying to get this to run on my gaming rig



WPWP.Fitz
Master Chief
squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
February 18 2012 20:35 GMT
#427
On February 14 2012 06:22 Mutality wrote:
you have to right click>properties>compatibility>Windows Xp that fixed it for me.


no it didn't.
squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-18 20:41:46
February 18 2012 20:38 GMT
#428
On February 14 2012 07:21 Garmer wrote:
maybe you have some drivers issue, or your windows got several problem from the first installation(bsod, other general error ecc... they could ruin your reg), try on another computer if u can

the only other solution is format c, but it too extreme i suppose....



We're not going through this stupid crap again, read the thread from start to finish or don't even bother replying.

On February 17 2012 00:40 BWalma wrote:
Actually this is a well known issue. As I do run windows 7 I do experience this major problem. After maybe 48 hours of research on the topic I finally found the origin of the problem. It has to do with windows explorer runs but Brood War changes something in windows explorer and this will cause your machine to freeze.

Do you listen to iTunes while playing? Well if you do that is why you can still here the music play and continue to play after your compute freezes. There are multible things I found to help prolong the time before the game will freeze. Again this will only minimize the chance of the game freezing but it has helped me so much.

1) Don't run any background programs while playing like skype, xfire and stream. If you need them to run in the background make sure they are running in the background with no other windows are open. Also make sure nothing is maximazed windows while playing BW this tends to increase the chance of the game signifcantly

2) Try lowering your setting to 800x600 which also helps reduce the chance of the game freezing.

Now if you don't need full screen and run through the iccup's launcher then you are able to run in windowed mode which will never freeze your game. Also if the minimized version is to small then you can press the 2x button in the top right of it however you need atleast 1080x1920 resolution or higher for that to display properly. I recommend run our system in 800x 600 mode and then run in windowed mode since this help first with streaming if your planning to and you can see the game much easier.

I hope this helps since I am a Brood war fanatic and I have much experience trying to get this to run on my gaming rig



WPWP.Fitz


most of what you just said is a summary of this thread

1. Itunes, WMP, Winamp, doesn't matter, if it uses GDI for screen objects it has a chance of causing it.
2. Resolution doesn't help for crap, some games freeze worse than others (Starcraft is a full video subsystem hang, Starlancer can atleast be terminated by CADing to task manager.
3. 640x480 or 8bit colour modes don't help
4. Running without a driver..... don't even suggest something so dumb (for those who probably would....)
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4748 Posts
February 18 2012 20:55 GMT
#429
I went through every non- file changing fix in the thread, and nothing helped. So I gave up and reinstalled. It works fine now, it only crashed once in about three hours, and I couldn't tell you why, but it hasn't happened again. I wasn't using any other applications, either (I love bw music, so that's what I listen too). The most confusing part was that I had logged on before, and it worked; it wasn't until I installed ICCUP (and thus 1.16.1) that it have me an issue. But then I reinstalled it with 1.16.1 to start and now it's fine. So I have no idea what the problem was, but try reinstalling it if you have the issue I did.
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Potling
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway298 Posts
February 18 2012 22:21 GMT
#430
Here it occasionally crashes when I join a game, but never otherwise. I only use the reg entry.
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
February 19 2012 00:56 GMT
#431
1. Run Starcraft/ICCUP launcher
2. Ctrl+shift+esc to bring up task manager
3. Kill "explorer.exe" in the processes tab
4. Double-click starcraft in the Applications tab to bring it up
5. When done, exit SC, and go to file -> New Task in task manager, and type in "explorer.exe" to turn it back on.
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
February 19 2012 03:14 GMT
#432
if you have video problems, all you have to do is:
enable all of the things when you right click the starcraft.exe (i did NOT enable compatibility mode, but i did every other box including run as admin) and disable color cycling which is in the in-game video options.
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squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-20 18:29:21
February 20 2012 18:27 GMT
#433
On February 19 2012 09:56 Ribbon wrote:
1. Run Starcraft/ICCUP launcher
2. Ctrl+shift+esc to bring up task manager
3. Kill "explorer.exe" in the processes tab
4. Double-click starcraft in the Applications tab to bring it up
5. When done, exit SC, and go to file -> New Task in task manager, and type in "explorer.exe" to turn it back on.


read the thread or get out of it.

On February 19 2012 12:14 Silidons wrote:
if you have video problems, all you have to do is:
enable all of the things when you right click the starcraft.exe (i did NOT enable compatibility mode, but i did every other box including run as admin) and disable color cycling which is in the in-game video options.


As above. Read the thread, realise your suggestions have been made already, and done nothing.

I went through every non- file changing fix in the thread, and nothing helped. So I gave up and reinstalled. It works fine now, it only crashed once in about three hours, and I couldn't tell you why, but it hasn't happened again. I wasn't using any other applications, either (I love bw music, so that's what I listen too). The most confusing part was that I had logged on before, and it worked; it wasn't until I installed ICCUP (and thus 1.16.1) that it have me an issue. But then I reinstalled it with 1.16.1 to start and now it's fine. So I have no idea what the problem was, but try reinstalling it if you have the issue I did.

I don't use ICCUP
The same issue happens in almost all over DDraw titles
Thus its not an installation issue.
Araneae
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway100 Posts
February 20 2012 19:09 GMT
#434
I had that problem, but after I startet using iCCup in windowed mode, that never happened again :D
squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
February 20 2012 19:25 GMT
#435
On February 21 2012 04:09 Araneae wrote:
I had that problem, but after I startet using iCCup in windowed mode, that never happened again :D



Obviously......
Proteinclock
Profile Joined January 2012
4 Posts
February 20 2012 19:49 GMT
#436
On February 09 2012 14:33 squall leonhart wrote:
its a memory access exception, probably running a Core 2 with the DEP erratum.


my friend runs an intel i5 laptop iirc. so what does that means in terms of solutions? new processor? totally screwed and there's no chance it'll run on win7?

im using a core2duo and it just magically works with no problems, so i dont know what to do.
squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
February 20 2012 20:50 GMT
#437
it could very well be an issue with the switchable graphics in that case.
Fus
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1112 Posts
February 20 2012 21:39 GMT
#438
I think it's really bad from microsoft to not make their computers complable with games that are only like 10 years old. It's like you couldn't watch Starwars episode 1 and 2 because your TV was to new. The game is still the same as it was 10 years ago(almost) and it is still people that want to play old stuff...
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1hpBuiltForLove
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada89 Posts
February 21 2012 00:35 GMT
#439
It is the same with all old games.

If you go to program files/starcraft/broodwar, find broodwar.exe,
and copy this as a shortcut file to your desktop.

After this is done, right-click the shortcut, and select properties.
Change the resolution to old school colour schemes and also select to run the game under a windows vista or windows XP service pack.

Your broodwar game should work fine from here on in.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
February 21 2012 01:33 GMT
#440
Read through the whole thread, nothing worked, ugh -_- i just want to play
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9501 Posts
February 21 2012 02:03 GMT
#441
On February 21 2012 10:33 johnnywup wrote:
Read through the whole thread, nothing worked, ugh -_- i just want to play

Play in window mode (available in ICCup launcher) and press Alt + F9. BW screen size should double and if it fits in your resolution then it's a decent workaround for playing on Win7 without any problems.
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squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
February 27 2012 03:57 GMT
#442
On February 21 2012 09:35 1hpBuiltForLove wrote:
It is the same with all old games.

If you go to program files/starcraft/broodwar, find broodwar.exe,
and copy this as a shortcut file to your desktop.

After this is done, right-click the shortcut, and select properties.
Change the resolution to old school colour schemes and also select to run the game under a windows vista or windows XP service pack.

Your broodwar game should work fine from here on in.


read the damn thread.
Pulzlulz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany412 Posts
March 02 2012 15:51 GMT
#443
So I just installed XP on VirtualMachine and when starting Brood War it stays in its small window with black bars around it instead of using my desktop resolution. How can I fix this?
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
March 02 2012 16:03 GMT
#444
Maximize your VM window?

I think there is a plugin to make the window go fullscreen, but I'm not sure if it is for VMWare or VirtualBox, try to look on that if you want to make the virtual machine window fullscreen.

If you are talking about iCCup Launcher/Chaos Launcher window, then there should be an option to make it either fullscreen or windowed mode, just tick it.

If you try the 2x window and it doesn't fit in your screen, you need to use your graphics card manager to make a resolution high enough to make the 2x window fit in it.
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Pulzlulz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany412 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-02 16:51:37
March 02 2012 16:09 GMT
#445
I'm using VirtualBox and I can maximize my VM Desktop with no problems but when I start Brood War it doesn't resize.It is fullscreen however because there are black bars around the small BW window. I think you misunderstood me.

Now for some reason it won't even let me connect to iCCup...fml
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
March 02 2012 17:32 GMT
#446
Reading this thread makes me love my Vista so much.
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
March 02 2012 23:11 GMT
#447
On February 21 2012 11:03 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 10:33 johnnywup wrote:
Read through the whole thread, nothing worked, ugh -_- i just want to play

Play in window mode (available in ICCup launcher) and press Alt + F9. BW screen size should double and if it fits in your resolution then it's a decent workaround for playing on Win7 without any problems.

The problem is I can't move the camera with the mouse T_T
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squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
March 09 2012 10:56 GMT
#448
On March 03 2012 01:09 Pulzlulz wrote:
I'm using VirtualBox and I can maximize my VM Desktop with no problems but when I start Brood War it doesn't resize.It is fullscreen however because there are black bars around the small BW window. I think you misunderstood me.

Now for some reason it won't even let me connect to iCCup...fml


this is because you are rendering 640x488 to a unscaled portal,
instead switch virtualbox to scaled mode.

....make sure 2d acceleration is disabled though or the vm will freeze when switching back to windowed.
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1688 Posts
March 09 2012 11:02 GMT
#449
On March 03 2012 08:11 Glioburd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 11:03 2Pacalypse- wrote:
On February 21 2012 10:33 johnnywup wrote:
Read through the whole thread, nothing worked, ugh -_- i just want to play

Play in window mode (available in ICCup launcher) and press Alt + F9. BW screen size should double and if it fits in your resolution then it's a decent workaround for playing on Win7 without any problems.

The problem is I can't move the camera with the mouse T_T

At the top right hand corner of the window, along the top bar, you will see little icons. One of them looks like a little mouse pointer. Click that and it will lock the mouse into the BW window, and you will be able to move the screen with the mouse!
EleGant[AoV]
Meta Templar
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3 Posts
June 25 2012 16:26 GMT
#450
There is a script from http://www.xomicron.com/software/directdrawfix/ that fixed it for me. Note that after installing bw I applied a ccpatch to fix the colour corruption and later on this script.
squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
July 11 2012 14:10 GMT
#451
No, that does NOT fix the crash.

don't just sign up and post in a thread that you obviously didn't bother reading.
Meta Templar
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3 Posts
September 07 2012 22:20 GMT
#452
I read the thread. I also said that that script fixed it for me. You have to realise that windows is a mess of an OS and what works for some people might not work for others. You realise that some don't even have this problem. So don't be project your anger on me for not fixing your problem.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6579 Posts
September 07 2012 22:57 GMT
#453
i think servipack 1 fix the crash
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-08 00:01:02
September 07 2012 23:55 GMT
#454
On March 03 2012 01:09 Pulzlulz wrote:
I'm using VirtualBox and I can maximize my VM Desktop with no problems but when I start Brood War it doesn't resize.It is fullscreen however because there are black bars around the small BW window. I think you misunderstood me.

Now for some reason it won't even let me connect to iCCup...fml


It might be your video card driver settings. Right click, set it to scale or stretch instead of original size or keep aspect ratio.

Edit - Also, just notice reply a bit late. Oh wells, for future reference anyway.

On March 03 2012 02:32 hellbound wrote:
Reading this thread makes me love my Vista so much.


Yeah Vista is my favorite OS.

Vista got bad rep early on mainly due to things like incompatibilities with a lot of software/drivers early on, and the fact it's always cool to hate on new things from big companies (microsoft, apple, etc), and the bandwagon rolled on.

Vista is a mix of XP and 7, and was actually in development "after" Windows 7 (in a way, Vista was a beta for 7 as 7 was was planned before Vista).

Personally I miss how the task bar works in Vista (you know how all programs are displayed in a list rather than in a table).

Fortunately you can change that in 7 with a registry fix. Also in Vista you can disable auto arrange inside of folders (in 7, you can but only on desktop) while in 7, you can't.

Ehh, yeah a bit off topic.
https://connect.microsoft.com/WindowsServerFeedback/feedback/details/741495/biggest-explorer-annoyance-automatic-sorting-windows-7-server-2008-r2-and-vista#details Allow Disable Auto Arrange in Windows 7+
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
September 08 2012 00:01 GMT
#455
On May 15 2009 19:54 lazz wrote:
what the hell is windows 7?


Oh god 2nd post, i am already glad i clicked on this
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-08 00:14:42
September 08 2012 00:13 GMT
#456
Yes, I did the enable/disable color thingie too and it stopped crashing. The colors get fucked up in the menus and on b.net, but not in game.

My current problem is that in only on W7 for me, the game screen is centered and not stretched or filled, so I have 2 huge black strips at all times and a smaller "game screen."
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Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-08 00:23:20
September 08 2012 00:18 GMT
#457
On September 08 2012 09:13 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Yes, I did the enable/disable color thingie too and it stopped crashing. The colors get fucked up in the menus and on b.net, but not in game.

My current problem is that in only on W7 for me, the game screen is centered and not stretched or filled, so I have 2 huge black strips at all times and a smaller "game screen."


It might be your video card driver settings. Right click, set it to scale or stretch instead of original size or keep aspect ratio.

If you have Nvidia video cards (for example), right click on desktop and click nvidia control panel.

Click (under display) "Adjust desktop position and size".

Set scaling either to aspect ratio (with black borders to keep ratio similar to the original) or full screen (which stretch to fit monitor).

If that's already been done and it still doesn't scale, I'm not sure.

On September 08 2012 09:01 DreamChaser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2009 19:54 lazz wrote:
what the hell is windows 7?


Oh god 2nd post, i am already glad i clicked on this


Like my previous post regarding Vista (again Vista is really good after SP2, it's a mix of XP and 7; Vista actually was developed after Windows 7, and it was technically just a beta for 7), people liked to bandwagon hate on things.

I remember reading articles from various sites (not tech sites specifically but humor sites for example) which were hating on 7 before it came on (hating on new stuff from popular companies is rad and will get you views; also useful if you run out of actual funny stuff).
https://connect.microsoft.com/WindowsServerFeedback/feedback/details/741495/biggest-explorer-annoyance-automatic-sorting-windows-7-server-2008-r2-and-vista#details Allow Disable Auto Arrange in Windows 7+
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
September 08 2012 04:03 GMT
#458
On September 08 2012 09:18 Goldfish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 09:13 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Yes, I did the enable/disable color thingie too and it stopped crashing. The colors get fucked up in the menus and on b.net, but not in game.

My current problem is that in only on W7 for me, the game screen is centered and not stretched or filled, so I have 2 huge black strips at all times and a smaller "game screen."


It might be your video card driver settings. Right click, set it to scale or stretch instead of original size or keep aspect ratio.

If you have Nvidia video cards (for example), right click on desktop and click nvidia control panel.

Click (under display) "Adjust desktop position and size".

Set scaling either to aspect ratio (with black borders to keep ratio similar to the original) or full screen (which stretch to fit monitor).

If that's already been done and it still doesn't scale, I'm not sure.


Thank you, sir. I will take a crack at it.
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lambchops
Profile Joined April 2011
United States63 Posts
September 08 2012 05:01 GMT
#459
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=26725723498&sid=3000

Try the registry fix. It has worked and still works for me cheers
Savi[wOk]
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States81 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 17:47:36
September 10 2012 01:11 GMT
#460
I've been dealing with this problem so long, playing windowed mode and trying my best to deal with it.
I've noticed however my friends windows 7 computer does not have this problem and I thought, maybe it had to do with my built in graphics card. So I decided to buy the cheapest graphics card in bestbuy and ever since, I've never had this freezing screen problem on broodwar.

However this solution cost a bit of money...
EDIT: Nevermind it froze...
Lets play starcraft
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9501 Posts
September 10 2012 15:07 GMT
#461
For those more adventurous, there's a new OpenGL wrapper that fixes color issues and freezing completely.

http://www.williamfeely.info/wiki/DXGL

It's pretty simple to use. Install and add Starcraft.exe in the program.

Only problems I saw so far is messed up menu when you're creating a game in battle.net, but you can still do it with hotkeys. Also the screen seems to be little cutoff at the bottom in game, but nothing special. And the double click doesn't work -.-

Btw, if game seems little sluggish, make sure the vsync is off in your graphic card settings for BW.
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squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
December 16 2012 03:41 GMT
#462
On September 10 2012 10:11 Savi[wOk] wrote:
I've been dealing with this problem so long, playing windowed mode and trying my best to deal with it.
I've noticed however my friends windows 7 computer does not have this problem and I thought, maybe it had to do with my built in graphics card. So I decided to buy the cheapest graphics card in bestbuy and ever since, I've never had this freezing screen problem on broodwar.

However this solution cost a bit of money...
EDIT: Nevermind it froze...



Placebo.

now gtfo.

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