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Gundam Push VS Reaver and/or DT Drop - Page 3

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AlaNtIs]ZIN[
Profile Joined September 2003
Uruguay142 Posts
November 18 2003 20:50 GMT
#41
not unless you fly rax over his base
because if it is gundam rush that turned defensive your rax wold still be around his base and if you suspect 1 goon and want to stay defensive you do have a rax to spare because 1 goon cant kill it or i least i dont think so fast enough to stop u from scouting

lol... uruguay
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
November 18 2003 20:56 GMT
#42
Dudey, I've been playing SC since the day it came out. I've had a good understanding of the game for a long time, and really feel I know what to do in certain situations, how to react, etc. I don't feel its a lack of speed or practice that holds me back, but rather, lack of cohesion in game. I act without thinking, and make stupid mistakes because of it. For this reason, I'm best at TvT, the matchup which moves slowest (in most cases). It allows me more time to think.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
November 18 2003 21:01 GMT
#43
obsoletelogic you are an idiot
HovZ
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1917 Posts
November 18 2003 21:02 GMT
#44
lol
z7-Rain : D Block is a rly good rapper, cosmo : mobb deep is a rly good rapper, cosmo : that song notorious thugs by bone and andre nickatana is sick
Payt
Profile Joined June 2003
Canada582 Posts
November 18 2003 21:03 GMT
#45
On November 19 2003 05:46 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:
Uhh...what's gundam and what's bamboo? Gundam = goliath? Bamboo


Gundam: Two factories, first one goes machine shop, second makes vulture. The first fac then makes a tank, while researching mines. The second fac makes another vulture. Build four marines at some interval (I can't tell you when to build them, I don't really know how to DO the build..), and send your tank, two vultures, four marines, and two-four scvs to outside the protoss base. Build a bunker, and then an ebay there, build a turret, research siege mode, contain.

Bamboo: I'm not really sure, but download game 1 and 4 of the Joyo vs Cope series, apparently Cope used a bamboo rush in those games.

I'm not sure how right I got the gundam build, but I think close enough that you'll understand or someone will correct me. :D
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
November 18 2003 21:04 GMT
#46
By relative comparsion that would then make you roughly on the same level as a rather dense terrier.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
C-Hab
Profile Joined October 2003
Zambia39 Posts
November 18 2003 21:11 GMT
#47
Yeah, there's something here. The implication is that a Terran who bamboo rushes loses automatically to a DT drop. But, if that is true, then what little extra 'Oomph!' does Gundam do that makes him so successful with the strategy? I mean we're here still talking about it. It seems to me the fact that the strategy is still a popular one speaks for its viability.
HovZ
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1917 Posts
November 18 2003 21:16 GMT
#48
cuz pros rarely dt dorp, but they have been recently, and its been working
z7-Rain : D Block is a rly good rapper, cosmo : mobb deep is a rly good rapper, cosmo : that song notorious thugs by bone and andre nickatana is sick
HovZ
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1917 Posts
November 18 2003 21:17 GMT
#49
btw, gundam is rarely used in tvp anymore
z7-Rain : D Block is a rly good rapper, cosmo : mobb deep is a rly good rapper, cosmo : that song notorious thugs by bone and andre nickatana is sick
AlaNtIs]ZIN[
Profile Joined September 2003
Uruguay142 Posts
November 18 2003 21:27 GMT
#50
thats why its good to use...

it hasnt been done in a while so you might catch the toss by surprise..

if the toss dosent give a fuck and knows how to counter it than you gotta be creative and add something fo your own to it... like a dropship O_o

i unno, but there are always ways to improve something old
lol... uruguay
ebba
Profile Joined July 2003
Australia63 Posts
November 18 2003 21:33 GMT
#51
get medics
HovZ
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1917 Posts
November 18 2003 21:36 GMT
#52
this is why good players dont care about the community. try to help u newbies and u guys just try to argue as if u know what ur talking about. o logic if u knew so much about bw u wouldnt suck ass at it. u suck at tvt too. u dont know shit about bw
z7-Rain : D Block is a rly good rapper, cosmo : mobb deep is a rly good rapper, cosmo : that song notorious thugs by bone and andre nickatana is sick
AlaNtIs]ZIN[
Profile Joined September 2003
Uruguay142 Posts
November 18 2003 21:40 GMT
#53
yup yup, that is exactly why Nazgul and Rekrul and all the other good players who moderate the forums dontcare

tahts exactly why they ban people because they dont care..

sure, anyways.. most of the people aernt even arguing, they just wanted to put tehir opinion on the gundam rush and what improvements you can do on it, no one asked for you HovZ..

i dont remember seeing any post saying "I wonder what the HovZ thinks"

im not saying you suck, and im not saying your bm, im just saying fuck you :O
lol... uruguay
SpuniasauR
Profile Joined September 2003
Australia1500 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-11-18 21:44:49
November 18 2003 21:40 GMT
#54
omfg. gundam is early vult with rine and plenty scv. sometimes tank, wat all versions of gundam have in common is that 1. the scvs press the goons so u can micro rines in front of em and vults mine behind. then u push forward. second it involves gettin as close as u can to the toss's base then one or 2 bunkers.

a bamboo IS THE SAME THING. its called a gundam becuz gundam thought it up. and it was nicknamed bamboo because its hard to break in early game pvt. see u can go hard out goon and ob but if ur micro is bad or ur unlucky in some way it can push u back as far as ur exp and then tanks/vults push can START from there, which i dont have to tell u is a pain in the ass. think LT if they can fire on ur ramp itll b hard to break the push successfully. if u go reaver u can stop it or go to the enemies base (the point of this thread) or if u go dt u can choose again, break it? or go to enemies base. i agree if the toss goes DT the gundam fucks the terran up bad cuz unless u have great mine placement ur screwed. turrets mostly wont be up in time and dts can wreck ur base. i personally prefer a straight fast tech to reaver when a guy goes gundam cuz it allows me to hit his lowly defended base or out range the bunker straight away with reaver. that is if i havent started singularity for goons (they outrange bunker with range upgrade) and reaver allows for fastish obs compared to dt tech. ok so thats 4 u verbloten and solari, hovz and ilnp dont have a flame @ me, im just explaining 2 them.

finally i gotta say the reason its hard to break is if u go hard goon he'll fortify with tank. goons will die to tank and mines/ bunker fire will melt zeals unless u can fight from 2 angles or u have overwhelming mass, both of which is hard to achieve if the terran pushes u back almost to ur ramp etc etc.
A firebat to your Zergling.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
November 18 2003 21:44 GMT
#55
On November 19 2003 06:40 SpuniasauR wrote:
omfg. gundam is early vult with rine and plenty scv. sometimes tank, wat all versions of gundam have in common is that 1. the scvs press the goons so u can micro rines in front of em and vults mine behind. then u push forward. second it involves gettin as close as u can to the toss's base then one or 2 bunkers.

a bamboo IS THE SAME THING. its called a gundam becuz gundam thought it up. and it was nicknamed bamboo because its hard to break in early game pvt. see u can go hard out goon and ob but if ur micro is bad or ur unlucky in some way it can push u back as far as ur exp and then tanks/vults push can START from there, which i dont have to tell u is a pain in the ass. think LT if they can fire on ur ramp itll b hard to break the push successfully. if u go reaver u can stop it or go to the enemies base (the point of this thread) or if u go dt u can choose again, break it? or go to enemies base. i agree if the toss goes DT the gundam fucks the terran up bad cuz unless u have great mine placement ur screwed. turrets mostly wont be up in time and dts can wreck ur base. i personally prefer a straight fast tech to reaver when a guy goes gundam cuz it allows me to hit his lowly defended base or out range the bunker straight away with reaver. that is if i havent started singularity for goons (they outrange bunker with range upgrade and reaver allows for fastish obs compared to dt tech. ok so thats 4 u verbloten and solari, hovz and ilnp dont have a flame @ me, im just explaining 2 them.


shut up when you don't know what you are talking about.

gundam is VERY specific
SpuniasauR
Profile Joined September 2003
Australia1500 Posts
November 18 2003 21:46 GMT
#56
so thats why some people say 3-4 vult and others say 2 vult and a tank or 2. its really wat uve built and wat u think ull need. the main point of a gundam is scv+rine+vults with mine. and unless u can tell where im wrong instead of just "stfu" then piss off
A firebat to your Zergling.
HovZ
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1917 Posts
November 18 2003 21:48 GMT
#57
thats exactly why u dont see anyone else good answering questions liek this, and now ill stop too. i am saying u suck, i am saying u dont know shit, and im also saying stfu newbie
z7-Rain : D Block is a rly good rapper, cosmo : mobb deep is a rly good rapper, cosmo : that song notorious thugs by bone and andre nickatana is sick
Verbloten
Profile Joined October 2003
Australia750 Posts
November 18 2003 21:48 GMT
#58
must be a full moon - everyone is being a little aggressive at the moment! peace everyone - we are just talking about the game we are all unhealthily obsessed with! LOVE SC!!
AlaNtIs]ZIN[
Profile Joined September 2003
Uruguay142 Posts
November 18 2003 21:48 GMT
#59
I think most people already knew the bamboo was Gundam..
lol... uruguay
Verbloten
Profile Joined October 2003
Australia750 Posts
November 18 2003 21:48 GMT
#60
we have to try and hold our egos at bay yeh?
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