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Do Zerg players just like to help?

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Zyarktodt
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States67 Posts
March 18 2009 16:19 GMT
#1
Well, I tried switching to terran and I absolutely couldn't believe the utter lack of help I received in comparison to zerg. At first, I thought this was because terran was a super hard race for newbs to learn but it turns out most people agree that zerg is the hardest race to learn. So then I thought zergs like to help because they're a hard race to learn so there's many opportunites to help. Then, after reading the Artosis "ask me about terran" topic, I found this was simply not the case. Don't take it as in insult or anything but there simply aren't that many good guides out there for terran. It seems like terrans like to keep secrets to themselves

More and more, I've come to appreciate the strategy forum for helping zerg players so much. Thank you for your generosity in comparison to the other races!!

Oh, and if you were wondering about Protoss, I think they're generally in between zerg and terran in terms of helpful players.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25990 Posts
March 18 2009 16:26 GMT
#2
Yes Zerg is the hardest race to learn. If people are at a reasonable level I really like helping them because I know how long it takes to learn from experience only.
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nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
March 18 2009 16:27 GMT
#3
Yes, that is because us zerg considers ourselves as a complete entity, one players success and failures are the hive's own succeeds and failures. This collective superiority stands in sharp contrast with the terrans inferior every-man-for-himself mindset.
Zyarktodt
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States67 Posts
March 18 2009 16:28 GMT
#4
On March 19 2009 01:27 nttea wrote:
Yes, that is because us zerg considers ourselves as a complete entity, one players success and failures are the hive's own succeeds and failures. This collective superiority stands in sharp contrast with the terrans inferior every-man-for-himself mindset.


Then why is there only one overmind(dominant player) at a time?
animus123
Profile Joined January 2009
United States171 Posts
March 18 2009 16:30 GMT
#5
On March 19 2009 01:28 Zyarktodt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2009 01:27 nttea wrote:
Yes, that is because us zerg considers ourselves as a complete entity, one players success and failures are the hive's own succeeds and failures. This collective superiority stands in sharp contrast with the terrans inferior every-man-for-himself mindset.


Then why is there only one overmind(dominant player) at a time?


There can be only one......
sLiMpoweR
Profile Joined March 2009
United States430 Posts
March 18 2009 16:33 GMT
#6
4sh5sh6sh7sh there u learned zerg
Team aMg
Phyre
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1288 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-18 16:38:37
March 18 2009 16:38 GMT
#7
Have you seen Stylish's FPVod thread for Terrans? That's probably the most help I've ever seen for any race period.
"Oh no, I got you with your pants... on your face... That's not how you wear pants." - Nintu, catching 1 hatch lurks.
SkepTicAL
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada872 Posts
March 18 2009 16:39 GMT
#8
How many good foreign terrans can you name off that are active in the community.
AeriALsLighT @AerialsLight
Lq_ fAn
Profile Joined June 2007
Lithuania154 Posts
March 18 2009 16:42 GMT
#9
On March 19 2009 01:33 gophillies3939 wrote:
4sh5sh6sh7sh there u learned zerg

you know jeadong had and have insane mechanics but he was just regular progamer but know he's a beast and not because of 4sh5sh6sh.....
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
March 18 2009 16:45 GMT
#10
ZvT is especially hard to learn, in ZvP and ZvZ you can get away if you have a single strategy, but against T it is a lor harder, because you would have to scout a lot more beacause of the unorthodox strtegies, but your overlord cannot scout in the T base. Also TvZ timings are much more deadlier than the pvz ones (imo), and a T can break out from a contain much more easely (+dual dropships/elevator with a single dropship, which looks just unfair sometimes)
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
hazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom570 Posts
March 18 2009 16:51 GMT
#11
On March 19 2009 01:28 Zyarktodt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2009 01:27 nttea wrote:
Yes, that is because us zerg considers ourselves as a complete entity, one players success and failures are the hive's own succeeds and failures. This collective superiority stands in sharp contrast with the terrans inferior every-man-for-himself mindset.


Then why is there only one overmind(dominant player) at a time?

its a hierarchy, we are part of the swarm but there must be 1 cerebrate who has truly mastered all aspects of zerg and commands the swarm through replays and vods
sLiMpoweR
Profile Joined March 2009
United States430 Posts
March 18 2009 17:02 GMT
#12
On March 19 2009 01:42 Lq_ fAn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2009 01:33 gophillies3939 wrote:
4sh5sh6sh7sh there u learned zerg

you know jeadong had and have insane mechanics but he was just regular progamer but know he's a beast and not because of 4sh5sh6sh.....



hehe yea i was just joking however i think terran is alot harder to learn then zerg and iv played random for over 9 years now so its just my opinion
Team aMg
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
March 18 2009 17:08 GMT
#13
I don't know I just 4sz5sz6sz my way to victory
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-19 01:38:42
March 18 2009 17:16 GMT
#14
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4843 Posts
March 18 2009 17:28 GMT
#15
Soo, now that 1a2a3a is a bannable offense, everyone just replaces it with zerg hotkey signatures? Sounds "funny" to me!

Zerg takes a different approach than Terran or Protoss, thus one could argue it's harder. Maybe not if your insticts are fine-tuned for the zerg economy management, but that's a rare case I'd say.
Complete the cycle!
StRyKeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States1739 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-18 17:33:53
March 18 2009 17:29 GMT
#16
I think it's because we're underdogs in every ZvT matchup, even if it's the current most dominating Zerg player at the match up like Jaedong. We all have this anti-T angst and we let it out by helping as many Zergs as possible. There's also the map imbalance that no other race can really understand. Protoss have recently started bitching about Tears of the Moon as if Protoss deserved a better map pool, not understanding the shitfest of maps that Zergs have to deal with, every map which is basically pro-T. Baekmagoji, Sin Chupung-Ryeong, Rush Hour, etc., and in the best case the map is balanced.

And don't bring up maps like Blue Storm because that's like one exception out of like 20.
Ars longa, vita brevis, principia aeturna.
Tensai176
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada2061 Posts
March 18 2009 17:40 GMT
#17
When I played Terran a long while ago, I was struggling until I read ToT_Daze's Strategy guides on Terran and some of his reps. My play increased DRASTICALLY. You might wanna read up on that if you're still sticking with Terran. It's on TL but I'm not sure where exactly it is =/
We see things they'll never see
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36388 Posts
March 18 2009 17:45 GMT
#18
i like making drones and thats why i play zerg
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lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
March 18 2009 18:02 GMT
#19
Clearly, the OP is a racist.
I'll call Nada.
Hans-Titan
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Denmark1711 Posts
March 18 2009 18:07 GMT
#20


There, ZvP uptill C- is now complete. Everytime I, D+, face something like this, exectuted just somewhat I get completely annihilated. Listen to the timings, the strats, the thoughts - it's an awesome build for low level ZvP.
In fact check out all Chills FPVoD's, a good place to start.
Trying is the first step towards failure, and hope is the first step towards disappointment!
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