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Hello, a friend of mine gonna open a new international store, it gonna sell all kind of items, also progaming stuff, such like keyboards and mice...I've suggested him to sell Korean keyboard DT35 to starcraft/wacraft players, especially to ppl in US and Europe, where DT35 Korean keyboard is not availbe (yet).
But the problem is he is not sure if there is enough ppl who interested and gonna buy this, because Sumsung DT35 is not very known keyboard in western country.
So I wanna ask TL ppl, do you wanna buy DT35 for 30$(American dollars)?
If there is enought interests, he promised me to sell to teamliquid member little cheaper than normal price.
Poll: Do you wanna buy DT35 for 30$?
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
Poll: Black or White?
(Vote): Black
(Vote): White
What DT35 Keyboard?
DT35 is the best(?) keyboard for starcraft in Korea. Players like Bisu, Savior, Stork, Boxer all use DT35 keyboard.
Is Korean characters on this keybord?
The keybord is 100% REAL Korean, and yes, with Korean characters
Is shipping cost included?
No it's not, we ship via EMS, but we donno about the shipping cost yet.
What is the url of the store?
http://www.dealperfect.com/
updated: keyboard is online!
My friend committed that all products are genuine，If any counterfeit goods found, he will compensate customers for the product and freight charge.
http://www.dealperfect.com/detail.aspx?sku=21043
http://www.dealperfect.com/detail.aspx?sku=21044
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what would the shipping cost approximately
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Would it be usable as a regular US104 keyboard? I don't know how this kind of thing works, really.
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On January 27 2009 05:41 theqat wrote:
Would it be usable as a regular US104 keyboard? I don't know how this kind of thing works, really.
Yes, it's same as US keyboard, expect it has korean character on keyboard.
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I might get it just for the Korean characters on it...
But atm, I have a G11 that's fairly new (not even a year old). :X
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I would buy one, but I doubt it's the best keyboard for sc:bw. Wasn't it that its so widely used among progamers because its so cheap and yet has a nice key-hit-feeling?
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United States20661 Posts
ps/2 port is annoying as shit.
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Haha, it's pretty good, why don't you tell your friend to make every other key black/white and make it a Jangbi keyboard 
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On January 27 2009 05:52 Last Romantic wrote:
ps/2 port is annoying as shit.
I'm not sure if it's USB or PS2 port,
but if it's PS2, imo USB adapter is included
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Definitly white
would buy one - my old keyboard sux
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Already have a new keyboard, got 2 of the same kind black and white, then alternated the key colors Jangbi style.
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hahaha jangbi keyboard is so goofyyy
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I would buy two for jangbi style.
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Doesn't this cost $5-10 in Korea?
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On January 27 2009 05:56 emucxg wrote:I'm not sure if it's USB or PS2 port, but if it's PS2, imo USB adapter is included
I play from laptop, if it's comming with USB adapter then I'll buy one.
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On January 27 2009 06:09 dekuschrub wrote:
hahaha jangbi keyboard is so goofyyy
I think Jangbi is a amorphous androgynous blob of a player, but I think his keyboard is sick.
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On January 27 2009 06:13 SonuvBob wrote:
Doesn't this cost $5-10 in Korea?
I don't know about Korea, but in China it's ~25-30$. (150-200RMB)
edit: someone sells 150rmb on chinese ebay, but I donno if it's real or fake.
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lol yeah probably buy one. depend on shiping
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Buy two, and switch the keys of hotkeys. You got two balling keyboards =).
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Yeah I would sell them if I were your friend b/c a lot of people want to be like the pro-gamers and will buy them.
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thedeadhaji
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I thought the samsung models were out of production, and they were replaced by the QSenn ones? The new model (used by Jangbi, among others) has a usb connection so presents no problems on that front.
$30, while higher than the raw price, is a good price imo considering shipping, the trouble of setting stuff up like this, customs, etc.
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On January 27 2009 06:13 SonuvBob wrote:
Doesn't this cost $5-10 in Korea?
less than this
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thedeadhaji
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On January 27 2009 06:51 Texas wrote:less than this
yea but honeslty, how do you plan on getting a hold of it =/
considering low sales volume for something like this (i'd imagine), having high margins seems fairly natural.
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If it makes me play like Stork, sure.
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I've asked my friend about shipping, there is two kind way of shipping.
The shipping cost is also depend on what country do you live.
EMS: ~15$ to US, pretty safe (recommend)
Airmail: ~5$ to US, but there is a low risk of losing baggage (even the risk is very very low, my friend doesn't recommend, because the store is new and he doesn't want complaints on his Paypal account and website)
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i'll buy one!
i'm getting the black one if it does happen and if someone gets the white one, please pm me, we could trade keys so i can have a checkerboard 
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On January 27 2009 05:52 Last Romantic wrote:
ps/2 port is annoying as shit.
why is ps2 port annoying?
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On January 27 2009 07:15 Ash wrote:why is ps2 port annoying?
Cause most laptops don't have one and even if you use the USB converter sometimes it's buggy.
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I'd get one. Probably just for the Korean characters too.
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OP, Your idea just got crushed.
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is this the old model without the USB interface?
NM it does have it. DAmn 20+ for shipping.
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Whats so special about this keyboard?
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On January 27 2009 08:37 sl wrote:
Whats so special about this keyboard? Nothing, a lot of progamers use it, so people think it's awesome, but the general reason progamers use them is because its just a generic, very cheap keyboard with english & korean characters on the keys.
I guess while being generic, it has a decent tactile qualities useful for playing SC (effort required to press keys, springiness etc)
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no , i dont want it
looks like any old keyboard you can buy at wal-mart for $5
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awesome i would probably buy it if we get good feedback & reviews
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being a protoss player id buy it simply because it has DT in its name
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Why do people want this keyboard? Because the pros use it?
You could get a much better keyboard for $30.
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whats the diff between this keyboard and normal keyboard other than korean words
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thedeadhaji
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On January 27 2009 11:40 justiceknight wrote:
whats the diff between this keyboard and normal keyboard other than korean words
It's a cheap, very easily replaceable keyboard that many if not all pros use and like the feel of the key presses. When importing of course you lose out on the cheap price and ease by which you can just bust out a new one whenever you feel like it, so I don't really think its worthwhile for a foreign player to pursue but thats just me. I am a fan of cheap keyboards though I don't like those fancy ones with macros and stuff cause I ultimately end up spilling water on my keyboard anyway
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On January 27 2009 11:40 justiceknight wrote:
whats the diff between this keyboard and normal keyboard other than korean words
Looks like absolutely nothing. It's a normal keyboard as well.
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How much faster will this keyboard make my APM?
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i would buy it as long as there was a secret button that only we would know about so nobody could just come here and register to get the discount, it would be our secret society
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i would think twice about ordering from lightinthebox
the reviews seems pretty bad
linky
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lol the best review (4/5 stars) says "my items/order were cancelled"
edit: nm, seems like most of the reviews from 6+ months ago were good
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MrHoon
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didn't people say the DT35 is better for people with smaller hands?
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
I agree with that assessment Hoon (i'm using one as I type this very msg)
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I might i have to find my credit card its under 100 newspapers 3 monitors 12 keyboards and 6 mouses all in one box
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Progamers use it because it's very cheap. They buy them in bulk so when they break their keyboards from constant pounding they'll have a new one ready :p
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My DT-35 looks different than either of those two and it's gray
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
30 dollars excluding shipping? 70% will buy it? you guys are crazy. they're like 5-10 bucks in korea
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On January 27 2009 14:29 Coca Cola Classic wrote:
My DT-35 looks different than either of those two and it's gray
edit: it's late and i can't read for shit. nvm.
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sell ktec mouses and youll get our buys.
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30+ is a little pricy for me
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On January 27 2009 06:48 thedeadhaji wrote:
I thought the samsung models were out of production, and they were replaced by the QSenn ones? The new model (used by Jangbi, among others) has a usb connection so presents no problems on that front.
$30, while higher than the raw price, is a good price imo considering shipping, the trouble of setting stuff up like this, customs, etc.
Actually all Samsung keyboards are OEMs. The original versions were out of production but the manufacturer made their own QSENN DT-35 version without samsung.
They are "made in china" anyway :> I heard the some early versions of original Samsung DT-35 were made in korea.
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On January 27 2009 14:57 Dark_Luster wrote:
sell ktec mouses and youll get our buys.
meh, i bought one from a guy on tl.net once. He didnt wrap it well, just put it in a brown bag and shipped it in the container it came at the store in. It worked for 3mths, i paid 55$ for it.
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On January 27 2009 14:33 Kentor wrote:
30 dollars excluding shipping? 70% will buy it? you guys are crazy. they're like 5-10 bucks in korea
What products AREN't cheaper in korea/china?
Even food is probably cheaper around there.
And would progamers use it if it wasn't good? I mean pretty much every progamer uses DT-35. There has to be something about it, since there are many cheap keyboards.
And that is why people want one, me include.
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On January 27 2009 18:13 MuR)Ernu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2009 14:33 Kentor wrote:
30 dollars excluding shipping? 70% will buy it? you guys are crazy. they're like 5-10 bucks in korea What products AREN't cheaper in korea/china? Even food is probably cheaper around there. And would progamers use it if it wasn't good? I mean pretty much every progamer uses DT-35. There has to be something about it, since there are many cheap keyboards. And that is why people want one, me include.
Food isn't cheaper in Korea.. nothing really is cheaper at least not in Seoul, the price of the keyboard is high as hell though, even if it is hard to get for non-koreans.
The keyboard is mostly so widely used because its the standard keyboard most of the internet cafes have so everyone is used to it, it doesn't have anything magical to it.
I'm mostly looking for one because of the korean letters on it, would make typing korean much easier.
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Voted no. $30? Come on. I think it's a rather nice keyboard but not for that kind of price -___-
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is there a QWERTZ version of this keyboard avaiable?
i would totally buy it
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looks like a normal standard keyboard to me lol
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After reading those reviews of lightinthebox, I'm not so keen about going anywhere near there. The next cheapest place I've seen online sells them for about $60 incl shipping so I guess if it's less than that people would buy it?
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On January 27 2009 21:33 Puosu wrote:
I'm mostly looking for one because of the korean letters on it, would make typing korean much easier.
The Korean keyboard layout is so intuitive, you can learn to touch-type in a few days at most.
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i have it already hahaha i no a website for it already message me if u wanna get it
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On January 27 2009 22:16 MasterReY wrote:
is there a QWERTZ version of this keyboard avaiable?
i would totally buy it
just switch the keys and switch them in windows too.
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So the store launched - I cant see any Samsung Keyboards though.... ?
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man that website is a mess.
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I was excited at the possibility of getting these keyboards directly from China (hoping that it would be cheaper than the link above) but the website is extremely cluttered. Hopefully they will put that keyboard up on the website and aren't just toying with our love for progaming.
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
On January 27 2009 18:13 MuR)Ernu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2009 14:33 Kentor wrote:
30 dollars excluding shipping? 70% will buy it? you guys are crazy. they're like 5-10 bucks in korea What products AREN't cheaper in korea/china? Even food is probably cheaper around there. And would progamers use it if it wasn't good? I mean pretty much every progamer uses DT-35. There has to be something about it, since there are many cheap keyboards. And that is why people want one, me include.
shows how much you know.
and yes, there is something about that keyboard. it's cheap, and not worth $30 dollars.
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im not sure, but i have both keyboards, but when i tick on the black one it feel a bit different from the white one :/
maybe its just me > >;;;
and btw, comparing US with China... they are pretty even in prices...
but comparing it with Korea, i think that korea is a bit more expensive overall...
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United States3824 Posts
On January 27 2009 06:32 Archaic wrote:
Buy two, and switch the keys of hotkeys. You got two balling keyboards =).
Or buy one and a sharpe, you still win
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Could just buy some 2$ stickers and put them on your keyboard.
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On February 06 2009 03:13 Kentor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2009 18:13 MuR)Ernu wrote:On January 27 2009 14:33 Kentor wrote:
30 dollars excluding shipping? 70% will buy it? you guys are crazy. they're like 5-10 bucks in korea What products AREN't cheaper in korea/china? Even food is probably cheaper around there. And would progamers use it if it wasn't good? I mean pretty much every progamer uses DT-35. There has to be something about it, since there are many cheap keyboards. And that is why people want one, me include. shows how much you know. and yes, there is something about that keyboard. it's cheap, and not worth $30 dollars.
Of course, if you buy some brandname things, they probably are about equal.
But stuff like this, random little items, are probably cheaper there.
I mean, you don't really find many 3dollar 1gigabyte memory cards for phones in finland at least.
Even keyboards tend to cost over 10euro
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On February 06 2009 05:25 MuR)Ernu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2009 03:13 Kentor wrote:On January 27 2009 18:13 MuR)Ernu wrote:On January 27 2009 14:33 Kentor wrote:
30 dollars excluding shipping? 70% will buy it? you guys are crazy. they're like 5-10 bucks in korea What products AREN't cheaper in korea/china? Even food is probably cheaper around there. And would progamers use it if it wasn't good? I mean pretty much every progamer uses DT-35. There has to be something about it, since there are many cheap keyboards. And that is why people want one, me include. shows how much you know. and yes, there is something about that keyboard. it's cheap, and not worth $30 dollars. Of course, if you buy some brandname things, they probably are about equal. But stuff like this, random little items, are probably cheaper there. I mean, you don't really find many 3dollar 1gigabyte memory cards for phones in finland at least. Even keyboards tend to cost over 10euro
well you can find em here (and i think there) without much problem specially in webshops... makes me think of those $1 mousepads in korea which rocked as well but i sure as hell wouldnt buy em for $10, same goes for the keyboards...
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Which colour is saviors? And i want CJ Entus shirt more than anything personally.
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On February 07 2009 09:32 Masteroderus wrote:
Which colour is saviors? And i want CJ Entus shirt more than anything personally.
search savior vods in google, its bound to show in at least a few of them.
my bet is white.
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if it is exactly like in the first picture (with english and korean letters) then HELL YA I WANNA BUY!!!
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
I have one, and yes it's english + hangul.
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On February 07 2009 13:41 thedeadhaji wrote:
I have one, and yes it's english + hangul.
These ones are made in China thought (according to the description) so I wonder if they have korean keys on them still. oO
If yes I'll probably order one.
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i might have to get one once i get the money.
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Nope. I'm happy with my 8$ Logitech keyboard.
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infinity21
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On January 27 2009 12:59 SonuvBob wrote:
lol the best review (4/5 stars) says "my items/order were cancelled"
edit: nm, seems like most of the reviews from 6+ months ago were good
http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Light_In_The_Box
not so good here
a lot of pretty recent reviews too
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On January 28 2009 06:49 SonuvBob wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2009 21:33 Puosu wrote:
I'm mostly looking for one because of the korean letters on it, would make typing korean much easier. The Korean keyboard layout is so intuitive, you can learn to touch-type in a few days at most.
pfft, i have a g15 with no hangul characters and i've pretty much memorised every character spot on the keyboard.
backlight > hangul characters ;p
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I would buy it mainly because i am going to learn korean language and i need that to type korean words...
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DON'TBUY IT FROM DEALPERFECT YET!
I CAN GET FEW DOLLARS CHEAPER FOR TL MEMBERS, WAIT!
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1. This is real dt35, all dt35 are made in China, this is not Chinese fake shit, I can promise!
2. http://www.lightinthebox.com sells fake DT35s, their dt35 is 0.5kg, ours is over 1.0kg!
3. this is very heavy keyboard, thats why shipping cost is very high!
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Does dealperfect ship from China?
Also would I get a bit of price reduction when I take 1black and 1white keyboard? Or only when I take 2 of the same color?
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On February 07 2009 19:28 emucxg wrote:1. This is real dt35, all dt35 are made in China, this is not Chinese fake shit, I can promise! 2. http://www.lightinthebox.com sells fake DT35s, their dt35 is 0.5kg, ours is over 1.0kg! 3. this is very heavy keyboard, thats why shipping cost is very high!
Why are you suddenly defending that your DT-35 is real?
btw why dont the pictures on dealperfect.com have samsung above them but have Qsenn?
and why do the keyboard pictures at this site http://www.lightinthebox.com that you say are fake also have Qsenn above them?
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On February 07 2009 19:45 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2009 19:28 emucxg wrote:1. This is real dt35, all dt35 are made in China, this is not Chinese fake shit, I can promise! 2. http://www.lightinthebox.com sells fake DT35s, their dt35 is 0.5kg, ours is over 1.0kg! 3. this is very heavy keyboard, thats why shipping cost is very high! Why are you suddenly defending that your DT-35 is real? btw why dont the pictures on dealperfect.com have samsung above them but have Qsenn? and why do the keyboard pictures at this site http://www.lightinthebox.com that you say are fake also have Qsenn above them?
Read the description, its the same keyboard as the samsung one but made under the name of QSenn. I think its like a .. mini company under Samsung.
the keyboard is 100% identical to the samsung one except for the QSenn tag. =P
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On February 07 2009 19:45 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2009 19:28 emucxg wrote:1. This is real dt35, all dt35 are made in China, this is not Chinese fake shit, I can promise! 2. http://www.lightinthebox.com sells fake DT35s, their dt35 is 0.5kg, ours is over 1.0kg! 3. this is very heavy keyboard, thats why shipping cost is very high! Why are you suddenly defending that your DT-35 is real? btw why dont the pictures on dealperfect.com have samsung above them but have Qsenn? and why do the keyboard pictures at this site http://www.lightinthebox.com that you say are fake also have Qsenn above them?
1. I defend because ppl are woudering why it's made in China
2. Well, lightingbox's keyboard fake or not, but real DT35 is 1.005KG, not 0.5KG, fake dt35 is about 10 dollars in China, and that makes also shipping cost very low...
3. I'll upload picture soon...
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On February 07 2009 19:43 ScoutWBF wrote:
Does dealperfect ship from China?
Also would I get a bit of price reduction when I take 1black and 1white keyboard? Or only when I take 2 of the same color?
I don't think so, because the shpping cost is according to the weight of keyboard.. not amount...
personally i suggest you buy 1 first, if you are happy, then buy another.
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I already have a DT-35 but it's kinda dirty :D Dealperfect shows that 2keyboards are some cents cheaper per unit that's why I asked if you get a black+white one also those few cents cheaper per unit.
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Ohhh righto, ima get 2, go jangbi style
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HI,This is Jack from DealPerfect.com,and I am the Owner of www.dealperfect.com,
further more,I am also a StarCraft fans in China,I am a Protoss player.My ICCUP Lv is C or C +.
As my major is International Trade in my college life,and I have one year experience working in a big international trade company,now I started my own business to construct a website to do B2C online selling,another way of international trade.
During my college life,I have spend a lot of time playing StarCraft,and I am very familiar with E-sports equipment,so I thought that most of StarCraft fans will like the real Dt-35,and I suppose it will be sold very well.Fllowed are the links of DT35 in our website,and you can see the detail information in our website.
http://www.dealperfect.com/detail.aspx?sku=21043 (DT-35 in Black color)
http://www.dealperfect.com/detail.aspx?sku=21044 (DT-35 in White color)
The White and Black Dt35 Keyboard are at the same price,each of them sales $22.13,and the shipping fee is $20.34 (because its weight 1.05 KG,so the shipping fee is not cheap),so you have to spend $42.47 to get one in total.
If you purchase 2 of them at one time ,you can get a discount,just need to pay a total cost: $81.73
1.Shipment.
Usually,we will shipped it to you via Registered Airmail as the shipping methods,and you will get a tracking number to track it,and the shipping time will around 7-14days. Or you can choose the shipping method as EMS DHL in our website,but the shipping fee is far more expensive.
2.Payment
Currently,our website just receive PayPal as the only way to accept payment.If you want to buy items from our website,you will need to have a paypal account at first.
3.Special gift for TL Customer only
After you have opened an order in our website ,you can send an Email to Dealperfectcs@gmail.com to let us know ,tell me your order number and your TL name ,and we will send a free gift to you.
Followed are the pictures:
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
rather buy a mechanical keyboard for $40.
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hmm discussion went from 5$ cheap pro keyboards to 40$ cheap pro keyboards. Think I got lost somewhere.
Though I guess you'll get some kids with disposable income to buy it so good luck.
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On February 11 2009 17:47 stack wrote:
hmm discussion went from 5$ cheap pro keyboards to 40$ cheap pro keyboards. Think I got lost somewhere.
Though I guess you'll get some kids with disposable income to buy it so good luck.
I like to buy 100 DT35 keyboards for 5 bucks...
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thanks dealperfect.com
just putting this out there for anyone who might want to buy one
is it possible to ship via sea , i assume this would be cheaper than air?
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I will probably buy one soonish. But if you want to sell equipment like this, you might want to sell some cool mousepads too and maybe logitech G1 or logitech minioptical mice. Maybe you could even make a "bundle" with a mouse and a keyboard and maybe a pad.
But i dont know how many would buy that.
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On February 11 2009 20:04 MuR)Ernu wrote:
I will probably buy one soonish. But if you want to sell equipment like this, you might want to sell some cool mousepads too and maybe logitech G1 or logitech minioptical mice. Maybe you could even make a "bundle" with a mouse and a keyboard and maybe a pad.
But i dont know how many would buy that.
Thank you for your kindly suggestion!
I will take your suggestion into consideration and will add logitech G1 or logitech minioptical mice in my website very soon!
Please keep attention to me..Thank you ~~
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On February 11 2009 19:18 PobTheCad wrote:
thanks dealperfect.com
just putting this out there for anyone who might want to buy one
is it possible to ship via sea , i assume this would be cheaper than air?
For my experience,many Big B2C website do not ship their items via sea...
Like my former company DX,all the items are shipped via airmail,and airmail is very cheap..
Because this keyboard weight 1050 g,so the shipping fee is very expensive.
But it is still cheaper than EMS,DHL,TNT ..... : )
Hope your understand
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I bought two dt-35 today for ￥200 (~$28).
I only bought them because I collect keyboards. I got both the black and the white.
The dt-35 is garbage and is only popular because before the progamers were famous and rich they all used this janky, standard keyboard cuz its the cheapest one..since they grew up on it they still use it.. make no mistake though. it is not any better than the basic microsoft keyboard.
The DT-35 keyboard features a silent, non-responsive style that most Americans are used to. Before coming to Asia I also used these cheap keyboards like logitech "gamer" keyboards. They are garbage with neat packaging, lights, and extra keys.
The quality keyboards depends not on how many keys they have but on the joint system they use to connect the keys to the input board. The mechanical, old school, keyboards do not ever jam...ever. Brands such as Cherry, Steelseries or the Taiwanese Jaki all feature joints that actually use older, more expensive technology. The newer silent style is cheaper to produce but much shittier quality and jams frequently. Check out the comparison below
New School Shit
+ Show Spoiler +Samsung DT-35, Logitech, Razer notice that there is no buffer between the key and the board itself. When you press a key it mashes on top of thin plastic membrane and you get a stroke. After a few months jamming happens if the membrane gets stuck.
Old School Mechanical
+ Show Spoiler + This shot comes from my Jaki. Its the same system used by steelseries, cherry, etc here we see a buffer between the key and the input board. one only has to mash the key half way to register a stroke. these keyboards feel so amazing when playing/typing. not only are they faster (since they requires less pressure) but they feel better and sound amazing with the clackity clack ftw
In conclusion, the samsung dt-35 is nice because its cheap, has fanboy appeal, and utilizes USB. The USB thing is kinda irrelevant though since all modern keyboards feature this. Keyboards which use the 3 part joint are more expensive but worth it to connoisseurs.
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On February 12 2009 11:06 Kunty wrote:I bought a dt-35 today for ￥100 (~$15). I only bought it because I collect keyboards. The dt-35 is garbage and is only popular because before the progamers were famous and rich they all used this janky, standard keyboard cuz its the cheapest one..since they grew up on it they still use it.. make no mistake though. it is not any better than the basic microsoft keyboard. The DT-35 keyboard features a silent, non-responsive style that most Americans are used to. Before coming to Asia I also used these cheap keyboards like logitech "gamer" keyboards. They are garbage with neat packaging, lights, and extra keys. The quality keyboards depends not on how many keys they have but on the joint system they use to connect the keys to the input board. Brands such as Cherry, Steelseries or the Taiwanese Jaki all feature joints that actually use older, more expensive technology. The newer silent style is cheaper to produce but much shittier quality. Check out the comparison below New School Shit + Show Spoiler +Samsung DT-35, Logitech, Razer notice that there is no buffer between the key and the board itself. When you press a key it mashes on top of thin plastic membrane and you get a stroke. Old School Mechanical + Show Spoiler + This shot comes from my Jaki. Its the same system used by steelseries, cherry, etc here we see a buffer between the key and the input board. one only has to mash the key half way to register a stroke. these keyboards feel so amazing when playing/typing. not only are they faster (since they requires less pressure) but they feel better and sound amazing with the clackity clack ftw In conclusion, the samsung dt-35 is nice because its cheap, has fanboy appeal, and utilizes USB. The USB thing is kinda irrelevant though since all modern keyboards feature this. Keyboards which use the 3 part joint are more expensive but worth it to connoisseurs.
uh oh
off topic but what would be the shipping cost from this site http://www.lightinthebox.com/Samsung-Authenic-Keyboard-QSENN-DT-35-Black-White_p42519.html#show
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On February 12 2009 11:18 CharlieMurphy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2009 11:06 Kunty wrote:I bought a dt-35 today for ￥100 (~$15). I only bought it because I collect keyboards. The dt-35 is garbage and is only popular because before the progamers were famous and rich they all used this janky, standard keyboard cuz its the cheapest one..since they grew up on it they still use it.. make no mistake though. it is not any better than the basic microsoft keyboard. The DT-35 keyboard features a silent, non-responsive style that most Americans are used to. Before coming to Asia I also used these cheap keyboards like logitech "gamer" keyboards. They are garbage with neat packaging, lights, and extra keys. The quality keyboards depends not on how many keys they have but on the joint system they use to connect the keys to the input board. Brands such as Cherry, Steelseries or the Taiwanese Jaki all feature joints that actually use older, more expensive technology. The newer silent style is cheaper to produce but much shittier quality. Check out the comparison below New School Shit + Show Spoiler +Samsung DT-35, Logitech, Razer notice that there is no buffer between the key and the board itself. When you press a key it mashes on top of thin plastic membrane and you get a stroke. Old School Mechanical + Show Spoiler + This shot comes from my Jaki. Its the same system used by steelseries, cherry, etc here we see a buffer between the key and the input board. one only has to mash the key half way to register a stroke. these keyboards feel so amazing when playing/typing. not only are they faster (since they requires less pressure) but they feel better and sound amazing with the clackity clack ftw In conclusion, the samsung dt-35 is nice because its cheap, has fanboy appeal, and utilizes USB. The USB thing is kinda irrelevant though since all modern keyboards feature this. Keyboards which use the 3 part joint are more expensive but worth it to connoisseurs. uh oh off topic but what would be the shipping cost from this site http://www.lightinthebox.com/Samsung-Authenic-Keyboard-QSENN-DT-35-Black-White_p42519.html#show
To the United States:
Available Shipping Methods Shipping Cost Total Cost
Expedited save 36% US$ 37.18 US$ 60.34
Standard save 26% US$ 35.99 US$ 59.15
Just added to cart and there was a "estimate shipping costs" thing at the bottom
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Wow, shipping is as expensive as the keyboard =.=;
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For me, I wouldn't buy just because it doesn't even have a volume control nob. If it was half the price, I may consider it as a gift for a friend.
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$40 for a $5 keyboard hmm....
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On January 27 2009 06:32 Archaic wrote:
Buy two, and switch the keys of hotkeys. You got two balling keyboards =).
Thats what I did
come to china.. cheap parts
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
i want a mechanical keyboard, but my roommates will throw shit at me if they're sleeping
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Steelseries use MX blacks, not browns. Also most Cherry keyboards I have seen pictures of don't use browns but blues.
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On February 12 2009 17:14 Kentor wrote:
i want a mechanical keyboard, but my roommates will throw shit at me if they're sleeping
i refrain from playing at all if they're sleeping. =P
this is pretty expensive. the keyboard is nothing special, just common. i wanted a bunch of these but at a cheap price, so i definitely won't be getting these. i just wanted a bunch of the same cheap keyboard with the korean layout that i could use for everything.
i'm actually going to korea next fall and i plan to pick up several of them when i find them for cheap (<=$10 each.)
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United States17042 Posts
On February 12 2009 17:56 rwong48 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2009 17:14 Kentor wrote:
i want a mechanical keyboard, but my roommates will throw shit at me if they're sleeping i refrain from playing at all if they're sleeping. =P this is pretty expensive. the keyboard is nothing special, just common. i wanted a bunch of these but at a cheap price, so i definitely won't be getting these. i just wanted a bunch of the same cheap keyboard with the korean layout that i could use for everything. i'm actually going to korea next fall and i plan to pick up several of them when i find them for cheap (<=$10 each.)
I have a mechanical keyboard too. I play with my roommates sleeping. They dont care <3
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The DT-35 sold by www.lightinthebox.com just weight 0.5kg,I am sure they are fake,or at least not the genuine Dt-35,anyone who bought it will know.My Dt-35 weight 1.05KG,and I can guanrantee it is the DT-35 that used in Korea league match.
I am good at playing oStarCraft , I know which DT-35 is the genuine one.My purchasing price in China will cost $14.34, and I will at least get 5$ as profit,and paypal will charge some money for the deal,that's why the keyboard sold 22.13$.
My website has been updated many other interesting items ,and I will put my time to sell other item , I will never promote my DT-35 keyboard in TL,if anyone want to buy this item ,you can buy it in my website directly.
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If anyone can get the DT-35 less than 10$ and can guarantee it is the genuine one ,please visit my website and contact me ,I will bought 1000 of the DT-35 from you.
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i ordered a DT-35 from dealperfect.com and received it 2 weeks later (china->germany), nice!
Suddently, my APM increased by 50% -> 300 APM!!!! (psychologically)
Ultra1337.
However, dealperfect.com is down at the moment =(, it said it was some evil hacker attack from the former boss, wtf?!
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On February 27 2009 20:52 eci wrote:
i ordered a DT-35 from dealperfect.com and received it 2 weeks later (china->germany), nice!
Suddently, my APM increased by 50% -> 300 APM!!!! (psychologically)
Ultra1337.
However, dealperfect.com is down at the moment =(, it said it was some evil hacker attack from the former boss, wtf?!
http://shop.dealperfect.com/ still works...
ps. I got mine DT35 too, I feel so good ^^
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Is the connection USB or PS/2?
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this keyboard is tempting, but i think somebody said that this keyboard is really loud? also, over $30 for this dirt cheap keyboard is  . if it was $20 w/o s&h, maybe.
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it this thing still going on?
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What makes this keyboard so special? It looks like just any other keyboard. Does it have better preformance and how?
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On January 27 2009 21:33 Puosu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2009 18:13 MuR)Ernu wrote:On January 27 2009 14:33 Kentor wrote:
30 dollars excluding shipping? 70% will buy it? you guys are crazy. they're like 5-10 bucks in korea What products AREN't cheaper in korea/china? Even food is probably cheaper around there. And would progamers use it if it wasn't good? I mean pretty much every progamer uses DT-35. There has to be something about it, since there are many cheap keyboards. And that is why people want one, me include. Food isn't cheaper in Korea.. nothing really is cheaper at least not in Seoul, the price of the keyboard is high as hell though, even if it is hard to get for non-koreans. The keyboard is mostly so widely used because its the standard keyboard most of the internet cafes have so everyone is used to it, it doesn't have anything magical to it. I'm mostly looking for one because of the korean letters on it, would make typing korean much easier.
just memorize the korean keyboard and u wont have to drop 30+ for a standard keyboard
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I bought a DT35 from dealperfect ~~ it was only 20$ which is fair for a low end keyboard, the shipping was high but thats the price you pay for it being in korean. I was skeptical at first, it was shipped at a reasonable speed (would have expected a little faster for shipping that expensive though). Its honestly an amazing keyboard, it feels sooooooooo nice on the hands, I feel like I'm never constrained by it and the keys press down extremely smooth. It sucks typing on my work keyboard now because I'm so used to my DT35. This is an amazing keyboard in terms of performance. If you want to be LOL ULTIMATE GAMER SUPER you can buy another stupid keyboard with macros and emotes or whatever, but if you are actually looking for performance I would highly recommend it. A few of my gamer friends and even family members laugh when I say I got a korean keyboard shipped from asia but after they use it they all agree that it feels amazing. All in all I would totally recommend the keyboard for anyone whos willing to shell out the money.
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Dealperfect.com is down i want a keyboard
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This last page looks like it's been hit by spambots rofl
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
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I enjoy my Saitek Eclipse keyboard =P. Got it from Amazon for $30.00 brand new. Not for the blue adjustable backlite btw, but its quiet, comfortable, and really improved my gaming/comfort level. I love playing at night with the lights turned off ><
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Oh my god i am freaking loving my dt-35 i just got it today and it feels so good on the hand. nothing can explain how good it feels it works GREAT for starcraft i suggest you all get one IT IS NOT THE SAME AT ALL as the a generic logitech or dell keyboard trust me i used a logitech 200 for years and it SUCKS in comparison to this keyboard. The only thing that people will have to get used to is that the dt-35 has slightly more compact keys than the average american Keyboard. All i can say is wow this buy is so absolutely worth it. It feels like a model m but more gosu.
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close the thread plz ////
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
why ppl buy this c$@p, a normal keyboard is the same at this
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
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On September 22 2009 07:06 LuisMl8 wrote:
why ppl buy this c$@p, a normal keyboard is the same at this
yeah man this c$@p is so bad that every progamer uses it
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
On March 10 2009 11:56 eatmyshorts5 wrote:
What makes this keyboard so special? It looks like just any other keyboard. Does it have better preformance and how?
agreed
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are you so naive that just because something looks like something else that you think they must be the same?
ima give you a glass of blood and a glass of wine....
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So I'm probably going to buy this pretty soon and it seems like it'll be much better than my current keyboard so I hope it comes in soon ... my current one is the laptop keyboard 
EDIT: Everyone is saying how its $30 dollars or around there, how come it shows up at $41.49?
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
On September 22 2009 07:07 Realpenguin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2009 07:06 LuisMl8 wrote:
why ppl buy this c$@p, a normal keyboard is the same at this
yeah man this c$@p is so bad that every progamer uses it
lol
go your next store and buy the same as other sportman swears and you will be like him O_O?
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On September 22 2009 07:11 LuisMl8 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2009 07:07 Realpenguin wrote:On September 22 2009 07:06 LuisMl8 wrote:
why ppl buy this c$@p, a normal keyboard is the same at this
yeah man this c$@p is so bad that every progamer uses it lol go your next store and buy the same as other sportman swears and you will be like him O_O?
no, of course the other "sportman" is going to be more physically fit, but there must be a reason why he uses a certain piece of equipment
if every progamer uses it, then there are obviously some redeeming qualities to it
(i've never used one, but it's pretty easy to see that it's worth getting for starcraft)
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On September 22 2009 07:16 Realpenguin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2009 07:11 LuisMl8 wrote:On September 22 2009 07:07 Realpenguin wrote:On September 22 2009 07:06 LuisMl8 wrote:
why ppl buy this c$@p, a normal keyboard is the same at this
yeah man this c$@p is so bad that every progamer uses it lol go your next store and buy the same as other sportman swears and you will be like him O_O? no, of course the other "sportman" is going to be more physically fit, but there must be a reason why he uses a certain piece of equipment if every progamer uses it, then there are obviously some redeeming qualities to it
Progamers feel it's comfortable. Of course we define comfort the same as everybody else in this world.
Also, some progamers also like a mouse speed and some like a lower. But obviously that means we should go with the progamer we like rather than the setting we like.
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Netherlands4511 Posts
I love dt35 ...
the F keys are so easy to use in starcraft with it, and i also love the feel of the keys... untill i spill too much trash into the keyboard and the keys become hard to press at least.
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On September 22 2009 07:20 ret wrote:I love dt35 ... the F keys are so easy to use in starcraft with it, and i also love the feel of the keys... untill i spill too much trash into the keyboard and the keys become hard to press at least.
ret said he personally likes it
DONE i'm buying two!
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I'm looking to get a new keyboard to replace the crappy Dell one I'm currently using. I was wondering do these keyboards use Cherry switches? I ask because the other keyboard I was looking to get was the Filco Tenkeyless keyboard which uses cherry browns and is what I'm looking for in a new keyboard. If the DT35 does indeed use cherry's that'd be great and would save me ~$70. Any info is appreciated! :D
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Does anyone have a pic of Jangbi's keyboard?
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I bought a dt 35 from dealperfect.. Waste of money. Upon arrival the box was really messed up, bent every which way, torn a bit. Also, on the keyboard in various spots is this grease type of stain, makes my hands feel really slippery and greasy when i touch it. Also, my spacebar won't work on the right half of it. its permanently stuck inside the keyboard.... so i can only press the left side, and even then its really hard to push.
I wanna buy one, just not from these guys again.
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Hmmm... I was thinking of picking one of these up from this site, but now I'm a little concerned due to the post above. Maybe you just had some bad luck. Did you try contacting the site for a refund or replacement or anything?
Does anyone know of another site that will ship this keyboard to the US for a fair price?
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On October 04 2009 05:24 ShivaN wrote:
Hmmm... I was thinking of picking one of these up from this site, but now I'm a little concerned due to the post above. Maybe you just had some bad luck. Did you try contacting the site for a refund or replacement or anything?
Does anyone know of another site that will ship this keyboard to the US for a fair price?
No i haven't bothered contacting them.. Reason being when I was talking back & forth with one of their guys about the free "gift" given for TL.net members ( which i also never received). He also told me my package would be shipped on a monday, but didn't until friday. Also they were really dodgy with e-mails, would receive a reply 2 - 3 days after I sent mine (which was always immediately after getting theirs). I got really fed up with them. Plus, I also threw away the box & crap out of rage, so I only have the keyboard i think rite now. Just collecting dust, & every flying particle on those wacky ass grease stains...
quickedit: I think the keyboard is awesome, just i wanna get one that isn't messed up :/
since it seems so out of reach though, I've been looking and (maybe) have found some alternatives?
the keytronic ones seem similar: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=40000063&Description=keytronic&bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=True&Order=PRICE
not sure what the difference is between the $10 (9.99) - $20 (19.99) ones.
also possibly the one in tasteless's keyboard blog? i cant find the link for that one anymore unfortunately.
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how much is the shipping?
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On January 27 2009 06:13 SonuvBob wrote:
Doesn't this cost $5-10 in Korea?
yes. and the keyboard is shitty also.
do not buy these for more than $12 MAX!
for sentimental value sure... the only reason all the progamers use this is because they are all copy cat collectivists.
i have two of these (white and black) they were bought just to collect. i got them for 100 yuan each which is already over priced. they sit on my shelf gathering dust. paying $30 for this crap keyboard and shipping would be silly.
On September 22 2009 08:07 Vencedor wrote:
Does anyone have a pic of Jangbi's keyboard?
+ Show Spoiler +
here is a link to nice keyboards
http://www.99hk.biz/keyboards.htm
i have no experience with that vendor.. just use it to see what the quality keyboard brands are.
all those listed are excellent except the RAZER keyboards which have cool features and tons of keys... but are still crappy jointed keys.
this is the keyboard i use.. it is amazing and about 2/3 the size of a standard keyboard.
+ Show Spoiler [jaki] + notice the joint. this is what you want. you do not want the plastic thing that is in most standard/cheap keyboards
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Does free shipping include europe? I'm from finland and there are shit I'd like to order if shipping costs nothing.
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On November 11 2009 17:18 omninmo wrote:yes. and the keyboard is shitty also. do not buy these for more than $12 MAX! for sentimental value sure... the only reason all the progamers use this is because they are all copy cat collectivists. i have two of these (white and black) they were bought just to collect. i got them for 100 yuan each which is already over priced. they sit on my shelf gathering dust. paying $30 for this crap keyboard and shipping would be silly. if you want a real nice keyboard for your money then get a mechanical one from steel series or cherry keyboards.
I tend to believe this person and others who have posted similar as opposed to the korean pros and ret<3. I did some more research on keyboards and ended up, with what I believe is a much nicer product. I got the Filco Majestouch with cherry browns switches. I'm loving it so far! The keys are very easy to press, but still very responsive due to the key-press actuating halfway through the keystroke.
If you're looking to get a new keyboard, or even just want to learn more about mechanical or other types of keyboard switches, check out: http://geekhack.org/ It's basically the TL.net of keyboards.. or something :p Aswell, a good place for mechanical keyboards and where I got mine: http://www.elitekeyboards.com/
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On November 11 2009 17:36 ShivaN wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2009 17:18 omninmo wrote:On January 27 2009 06:13 SonuvBob wrote:
Doesn't this cost $5-10 in Korea? yes. and the keyboard is shitty also. do not buy these for more than $12 MAX! for sentimental value sure... the only reason all the progamers use this is because they are all copy cat collectivists. i have two of these (white and black) they were bought just to collect. i got them for 100 yuan each which is already over priced. they sit on my shelf gathering dust. paying $30 for this crap keyboard and shipping would be silly. if you want a real nice keyboard for your money then get a mechanical one from steel series or cherry keyboards. I tend to believe this person and others who have posted similar as opposed to the korean pros and ret<3. I did some more research on keyboards and ended up, with what I believe is a much nicer product. I got the Filco Majestouch with cherry browns switches. I'm loving it so far! The keys are very easy to press, but still very responsive due to the key-press actuating halfway through the keystroke. If you're looking to get a new keyboard, or even just want to learn more about mechanical or other types of keyboard switches, check out: http://geekhack.org/ It's basically the TL.net of keyboards.. or something :p Aswell, a good place for mechanical keyboards and where I got mine: http://www.elitekeyboards.com/
filco is to cherry as lexus is to toyota.
don't get me wrong. dt-35 is fine for playing SC... but its not the best overall keyboard and it gets stuck often... as ret mentioned. don't be sarcastic. i told you the reason progamers use dt35.. because 10 years ago that is what they used.. now all the youngins just copy. progamers are good at SC but most of them know jackshit about computers and hardware.
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omninmo it seems that you are somewhat of a keyboard conniseur, can you recommend me a good keyboard for playing street fighter/sc etc. I need one for xmas.
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