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Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
December 29 2008 11:19 GMT
#1
I know roughly how much progamers make if they are on the A team, but what about the B team members? Do they just live there for free and hope that one day they become good enough to make alot of money or do they make a small salary for making it onto the B team?

Someone should also update how much current Pros make if they can..
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Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States3826 Posts
December 29 2008 11:21 GMT
#2
this thread makes me $$$
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
December 29 2008 11:25 GMT
#3
i think you should google their contracts!
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meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
December 29 2008 11:28 GMT
#4
All I know is that Nada is making way more money than he should be now
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Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
December 29 2008 11:32 GMT
#5
Next interview question: "How much money do you make?"
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Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
December 29 2008 11:49 GMT
#6
On December 29 2008 20:28 meegrean wrote:
All I know is that Nada is making way more money than he should be now



He's not just a godlike player (he still is-_-! don't fuck with me here^^!) He's even more of a commercial figure .. He's so famous etc
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Azrael1111
Profile Joined July 2008
United States550 Posts
December 29 2008 11:53 GMT
#7
iirc best signed a 3 year 800,000 usd contract with skt1?
Metallingus
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Philippines468 Posts
December 29 2008 11:54 GMT
#8
On December 29 2008 20:49 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2008 20:28 meegrean wrote:
All I know is that Nada is making way more money than he should be now



He's not just a godlike player (he still is-_-! don't fuck with me here^^!) He's even more of a commercial figure .. He's so famous etc


Not to mention that he's mentoring players like Mind and BaBy. Mind's doing really well so I guess you can say that he's a good teacher.
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IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-29 11:57:21
December 29 2008 11:57 GMT
#9
Something like every programmer makes like 30-60k a year but like a few like nada savior xellos rake in like 300k+ a year in us dollars
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Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27151 Posts
December 29 2008 12:01 GMT
#10
On December 29 2008 20:57 IzzyCraft wrote:
Something like every programmer makes like 30-60k a year but like a few like nada savior xellos rake in like 300k+ a year in us dollars


Totally wrong. Last year Free was making 6k... a YEAR.

Players who are not on the A team earn room and board, and MAYBE an allowance. Unless you are making those appearance fees, you aren't getting any significant salary.
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nataziel
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Australia1455 Posts
December 29 2008 12:42 GMT
#11
Wow, but they are provided with room and board, so it's not like they have rent/living expenses to worry about.
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Hot77.iEy
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Finland1486 Posts
December 29 2008 12:48 GMT
#12
I've always had the idea that the lesser players get 'some hundreds' every month, which is basically an allowance like Mani said.
-.-
PobTheCad
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Australia893 Posts
December 29 2008 12:50 GMT
#13
On December 29 2008 21:42 nataziel wrote:
Wow, but they are provided with room and board, so it's not like they have rent/living expenses to worry about.

who cares , 6k is still jack shit
especially if you are 'working' 10hr a day
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ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
December 29 2008 13:02 GMT
#14
Remember interview with Oversky? Even with accomodation and food being payed he doesn't earn anything with which he could allow himself some nights out or a holiday. I know that it may be different case because he's in ACE, but I don't think B-players earn anything more in other teams.

Tough life.
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Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
December 29 2008 13:04 GMT
#15
On December 29 2008 21:50 PobTheCad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2008 21:42 nataziel wrote:
Wow, but they are provided with room and board, so it's not like they have rent/living expenses to worry about.

who cares , 6k is still jack shit
especially if you are 'working' 10hr a day

Becoming a Pro-Gamer would be 10x harder if the B-level pros had a big salary because of how small amount of players per team they could manage.

Nowadays when a team recruits someone they're mostly taking the person to be made an A-team player, but if he doesn't show results theres no reason for the team to pay him either.. really.

We just have to wait until e-Sports grows and more money enters the business, then we'll see those minor league players with big salaries. Maybe someday. =)
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
December 29 2008 13:11 GMT
#16
On December 29 2008 20:53 Azrael1111 wrote:
iirc best signed a 3 year 800,000 usd contract with skt1?


If this is true, holy shit, set for life with intelligent investments etc
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No_eL
Profile Joined July 2007
Chile1438 Posts
December 29 2008 13:36 GMT
#17
any numbers of a reliable source??
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EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
December 29 2008 13:42 GMT
#18
On December 29 2008 20:53 Azrael1111 wrote:
iirc best signed a 3 year 800,000 usd contract with skt1?

source? if he makes that much I can't even imagine how much bisu rakes in..
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-29 14:26:06
December 29 2008 14:21 GMT
#19
Considering how old they are and they also get + prize money for winning tournies, its a pretty decent gig.

Past contract/salary here

http://www.mymym.com/en/news/9544.html
bisu fanboy
naonao
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States847 Posts
December 29 2008 14:25 GMT
#20
On December 29 2008 21:50 PobTheCad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2008 21:42 nataziel wrote:
Wow, but they are provided with room and board, so it's not like they have rent/living expenses to worry about.

who cares , 6k is still jack shit
especially if you are 'working' 10hr a day

You must also realize 6k USD in Korea stretches further than in the US or Europe.
Guss
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Sweden712 Posts
December 29 2008 14:37 GMT
#21
if i was to enter a proteam my salary would be: DUM DUM DUUUUM, ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS!!!
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hacpee
Profile Joined November 2007
United States752 Posts
December 29 2008 14:38 GMT
#22
On December 29 2008 23:25 naonao wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2008 21:50 PobTheCad wrote:
On December 29 2008 21:42 nataziel wrote:
Wow, but they are provided with room and board, so it's not like they have rent/living expenses to worry about.

who cares , 6k is still jack shit
especially if you are 'working' 10hr a day

You must also realize 6k USD in Korea stretches further than in the US or Europe.


Cost of living in Seoul is higher than that of the us. WTF?

http://www.mercer.com/costofliving
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-29 14:55:13
December 29 2008 14:39 GMT
#23
ESports - Programer(Starcraft) Annual salary Top 10


NaDa Lee, Yoon-yoel Wemade FOX $266,071
July Park, Sung-jun SK Telecom T1 $191,571
iloveoov Choi, Yeon-sung SK Telecom T1 $180,928
XellOs Seo, Ji-hoon CJ Entus $159,642
Reach Park, Jung-suk KTF Magics $141,550
Kingdom Park, Yong-wook SK Telecom T1 $127,714
GoRush Park, Tae-min SK Telecom T1 $127,714
Nal_rA Kang, Min KTF Magicns $127,714
sAviOr Ma, Jae-yoon CJ Entus $106,428
Midas Jun, Sang-wook SK Telecom T1 $106,428


-WeeMee. (2008). Accessible at: http://weemee.com/weemee/issue/2 . Accessed at: 29/18/2008


Note: KRW has depreciated by 37% against USD in last 10 months (when the source states the salaries).




As Free is taking only $6,000 per year (stated on Mymym), than it is obvious that B team members will have minimum wages (I don't know how Korean legal system works, here in GB you can't pay less than minimum hourly wage no matter what contract you are issuing).

It seems to work like Salaries for CEO's and Directors of large corporations. They don't get their money only for the performance, but the salary itself works as a motivator for employees down the company structure. Therefore, the fame and large contracts at teams for the best players makes the B team players to stay even with pityful wages.
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Azrael1111
Profile Joined July 2008
United States550 Posts
December 29 2008 14:55 GMT
#24
On December 29 2008 22:42 EpiK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2008 20:53 Azrael1111 wrote:
iirc best signed a 3 year 800,000 usd contract with skt1?

source? if he makes that much I can't even imagine how much bisu rakes in..


There was a thread here on TL about it, I just searched and couldn't find it though. Why would bisu make more when he doesn't perform as well in PL and doesn't still have a long and promising career ahead of him?
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-29 15:05:41
December 29 2008 15:04 GMT
#25
Lemon whats the date on that salary list. Seems outdated Gives a good idea of what players are payed for. Popularity.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States250 Posts
December 29 2008 15:07 GMT
#26
I wonder if Boxer will make his millions once hes back playing w/ SKT T1... $$$
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51476 Posts
December 29 2008 15:11 GMT
#27
There's an eighteenth month?!
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LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-29 15:19:11
December 29 2008 15:18 GMT
#28
On December 30 2008 00:04 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Lemon whats the date on that salary list. Seems outdated Gives a good idea of what players are payed for. Popularity.


2/2008. Thats why I stated the depreciation of KRW in last 10 months. But again, its not a very reliable source. I have never heard of WeeMee before. We need some official Koeran source from recent date. Wee Mee doesnt say where they get it from TT
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Storchen
Profile Joined September 2006
Sweden4385 Posts
December 29 2008 15:22 GMT
#29
On December 30 2008 00:11 GTR-2-Go wrote:
There's an eighteenth month?!

haha thought the same thing
iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
December 29 2008 15:32 GMT
#30
On December 29 2008 23:38 hacpee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2008 23:25 naonao wrote:
On December 29 2008 21:50 PobTheCad wrote:
On December 29 2008 21:42 nataziel wrote:
Wow, but they are provided with room and board, so it's not like they have rent/living expenses to worry about.

who cares , 6k is still jack shit
especially if you are 'working' 10hr a day

You must also realize 6k USD in Korea stretches further than in the US or Europe.


Cost of living in Seoul is higher than that of the us. WTF?

http://www.mercer.com/costofliving


eh he was saying you can get more in Korea than in the US/Europe.. though it still depends on area/city etc I'm sure cost of living in Seoul is sky high yo
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MuR)Ernu
Profile Joined September 2008
Finland768 Posts
December 29 2008 15:42 GMT
#31
On December 30 2008 00:32 iloveHieu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2008 23:38 hacpee wrote:
On December 29 2008 23:25 naonao wrote:
On December 29 2008 21:50 PobTheCad wrote:
On December 29 2008 21:42 nataziel wrote:
Wow, but they are provided with room and board, so it's not like they have rent/living expenses to worry about.

who cares , 6k is still jack shit
especially if you are 'working' 10hr a day

You must also realize 6k USD in Korea stretches further than in the US or Europe.


Cost of living in Seoul is higher than that of the us. WTF?

http://www.mercer.com/costofliving


eh he was saying you can get more in Korea than in the US/Europe.. though it still depends on area/city etc I'm sure cost of living in Seoul is sky high yo

Well apartments in seoul seem to be cheaper than in Helsinki for example.
Also i heard that its so cheap to eat in a restaurant, they do it like everyday.
I'm not sure how they calculate it.

Of course you can live pretty cheaply anywhere if your standards aren't that high
(small apartment, cheap food, cheap clothes etc)
I_QQ_GG
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada16 Posts
December 29 2008 16:27 GMT
#32
On December 29 2008 23:25 naonao wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2008 21:50 PobTheCad wrote:
On December 29 2008 21:42 nataziel wrote:
Wow, but they are provided with room and board, so it's not like they have rent/living expenses to worry about.

who cares , 6k is still jack shit
especially if you are 'working' 10hr a day

You must also realize 6k USD in Korea stretches further than in the US or Europe.

And you also know that if somthing costed 1$ here it would cost 1000(i think) won there its not like with 1 american dollar you can buy a ipod there or somthing.
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village_idiot
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
2436 Posts
December 29 2008 16:29 GMT
#33
Holy shit. Big players make big bucks.

Bonjwas like like savior and nada can just invest the money wisely and they never have work again once they're done with e-sports.
VorcePA
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1102 Posts
December 29 2008 17:40 GMT
#34
On December 30 2008 01:29 village_idiot wrote:
Holy shit. Big players make big bucks.

Bonjwas like like savior and nada can just invest the money wisely and they never have work again once they're done with e-sports.


Yeah, but it would be foolish to completely leave the e-sports scene. Could still be a commentator or coach or practice partner, or something.



I mean... unless you're sick of Starcraft and never want to see another game played ever again =P
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ScarFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1175 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-29 17:53:07
December 29 2008 17:52 GMT
#35
I thought free's income was 16k?. Doesn't make a big difference though, thats beyond nothing. Apparently hes gotten a salary boost since then...and with that uh, whats it called, free agent status that is coming up, the top players incomes will go up accordingly. Probably even people that haven't reached free agent status- make them happy now, so they don't entertain the idea of leaving later.
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