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JMave
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Singapore1803 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-22 07:13:06
November 22 2008 05:48 GMT
#1
Hi guys. After being so bored for so many days, I decided to make some maps. Here's a map that I just made this morning so I hope you guys can tell me what other things I can add to balance the map.

Note: Just incase if the picture is too small and to clarify, the furthermost ramp from the natural actually has 32 minerals in it. Its not an open ramp.


Sephene 1.0


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Sephene 1.1
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
November 22 2008 06:03 GMT
#2
Well...aside from the map being very, very plain...the right main...and actually the entire right side of the map is a lot larger than the left...

Also, you have eleven minerals at each main, and eight at the nats. Standard play nowadays is nine mins in the main, and 6-7 in nat I believe. That will throw off balances right there. In addition, the narrow ramps leading to the middle plateau will seriously tip the balance towards terran.

The map is not very balanced at all...:\
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Spenguin
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia3316 Posts
November 22 2008 06:05 GMT
#3
Big main or small map? What's with the middle expansion? A bit more explanation I think is needed. Is this your first map?

However that's a lot of mineral patches per expansion and in main, Looks good for dropship play however the fact that the main's are so close would mean whoever can get drops early wins.
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JMave
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Singapore1803 Posts
November 22 2008 06:06 GMT
#4
Yea its my first map lol. Its kinda fun so I wanna work on this for a while.
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IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
November 22 2008 06:08 GMT
#5
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blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
November 22 2008 06:12 GMT
#6
the small strips of land right below the cliff by the main's minline looks tankable
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JMave
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Singapore1803 Posts
November 22 2008 06:19 GMT
#7
On November 22 2008 15:12 blue_arrow wrote:
the small strips of land right below the cliff by the main's minline looks tankable


Oh yeah! Lol okok. I'll take today to try and refine it and maybe update you guys.
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Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
November 22 2008 06:24 GMT
#8
So if terran takes the center highground, they win instantly. This is what I'm seeing on this map.
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boongee
Profile Joined November 2004
United States967 Posts
November 22 2008 06:53 GMT
#9
get this map in the next OSL asap
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
November 22 2008 06:58 GMT
#10
i think zerg will own on this map. see raid assault 2 for details close bases, min line harrassable
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
JMave
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Singapore1803 Posts
November 22 2008 07:14 GMT
#11
Okay version 1.1 is up. I'm kinda havig trouble with making an expanded ramp like how they did it on python on the 11 and 5 o'clock expansions. I'm also unsure as to making an inverted ramp that flips to the other side.
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-22 07:55:19
November 22 2008 07:55 GMT
#12
lol what is this crap

On November 22 2008 15:53 boongee wrote:
get this map in the next OSL asap

ROFL
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
November 22 2008 07:55 GMT
#13
hahah, i like how version 1.0 is totally different at 1.1 this has gotta be a troll
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
November 22 2008 07:57 GMT
#14
ROFL

Impressive

seriously lol at the swarmed minerals
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PobTheCad
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Australia893 Posts
November 22 2008 12:07 GMT
#15
seems like the map may have pathfinding issues when issuing your units to attack the other persons base (may get stuck in between minerals etc or that T could put a bunch of siege tanks/bunkers/turrets just behind those mineral patches in the middle of the map and just be able to contain far too easily (imo)
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meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
November 22 2008 19:24 GMT
#16
100% Awesome. Keep up the good work, mang.
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Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
November 22 2008 19:32 GMT
#17
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
^-^
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
November 22 2008 19:35 GMT
#18
Lol is this a troll?
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-22 19:36:55
November 22 2008 19:36 GMT
#19
This must be a joke. This is literally the worst map I've ever seen. I can offer no advice, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
November 22 2008 19:42 GMT
#20
HAHAHHA 1.0 has a shitty smily face on the bottom base
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7218 Posts
November 22 2008 19:43 GMT
#21
link to dl plz
Entusman #12
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-22 19:45:38
November 22 2008 19:45 GMT
#22
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littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7218 Posts
November 22 2008 19:46 GMT
#23
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Entusman #12
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
November 22 2008 19:53 GMT
#24
It's very.......plain. haha nice try
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andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
November 22 2008 19:57 GMT
#25
More smilies please
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Duke
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States1106 Posts
November 22 2008 20:03 GMT
#26
you guys are cruel
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8101 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-22 20:58:16
November 22 2008 20:57 GMT
#27
lol what i learned from this thread is to never ever show maps that you've made to TL if you have weak nerves
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IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
November 22 2008 21:02 GMT
#28
On November 23 2008 05:57 Ideas wrote:
lol what i learned from this thread is to never ever show maps that you've made to TL if you have weak nerves

It's how most maps go haha
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even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
hixhix
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1156 Posts
November 22 2008 21:07 GMT
#29
On November 23 2008 05:57 Ideas wrote:
lol what i learned from this thread is to never ever show maps that you've made to TL if you have weak nerves


I dont think the OP was serious, he was joking and everyone has a good laugh
boongee
Profile Joined November 2004
United States967 Posts
November 22 2008 21:15 GMT
#30
you can show maps to tlnet, just spend more than 10 minutes making them
parkin
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
1080 Posts
November 22 2008 22:02 GMT
#31
So where can i DL the maps?
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JMave
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Singapore1803 Posts
November 23 2008 00:13 GMT
#32
LOL! Okay guys sorry I forgot some intro.. well this isn't a troll. Its my first attempt so thanks for youe 'encouragements' I'm just starting to understand the balance of maps so I'm going to overhaul the entire thing today.
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Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
November 23 2008 00:18 GMT
#33
loooooooooooooooooooool chill

Still, putting it in the osl wouldnt be a bad idea, terran has been doing so bad lately.
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
November 23 2008 00:25 GMT
#34
1.0 is lots of happy faces, 1.1 is a very angry looking face ;x
@QxGDarkCell ._.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
November 23 2008 00:25 GMT
#35
On November 23 2008 09:18 Frits wrote:
loooooooooooooooooooool chill

Still, putting it in the osl wouldnt be a bad idea, terran has been doing so bad lately.

hhaha
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-23 00:30:34
November 23 2008 00:28 GMT
#36
JMave if you truly are a noobie just go to broodwarmaps.net and read all the map making articles and look through all the Map of th Weeks/Months and see how good maps are created.

I would suggest that you know how to play the game at a fairly decent level before you decide to make maps. This game is completely imbalanced from all sorts of factors, such as mineral/gas positions, nearby defendable gas, islands, cliffs, How narrow a choke is, size of main, etc. etc.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
November 23 2008 00:32 GMT
#37
I think baby could 3-0 stork on that map
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
November 23 2008 00:33 GMT
#38
I think he's trolling to go from

V1.0 = happy

v1.1 = OMG THIS IS SO BAD IM ANGRY.
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LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
November 23 2008 00:50 GMT
#39
I think it's pretty good, but probably stolen from mapdori.
Chains none
KenSei
Profile Joined November 2008
Iceland4 Posts
November 23 2008 01:44 GMT
#40
the first one looks ridiculously easy to 4pool on xD
Life is tough. Life is tougher if your stupid.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
November 23 2008 02:11 GMT
#41
kinda reminds me of paranoid android...
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DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
November 23 2008 02:15 GMT
#42
On November 23 2008 11:11 SilverSkyLark wrote:
kinda reminds me of the dump i just took...


fixed
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
November 23 2008 02:20 GMT
#43
On November 23 2008 09:28 CharlieMurphy wrote:
JMave if you truly are a noobie just go to broodwarmaps.net and read all the map making articles and look through all the Map of th Weeks/Months and see how good maps are created.

I would suggest that you know how to play the game at a fairly decent level before you decide to make maps. This game is completely imbalanced from all sorts of factors, such as mineral/gas positions, nearby defendable gas, islands, cliffs, How narrow a choke is, size of main, etc. etc.


What he said.
good maps not only have good design (well for the most part, I guess), but EVERYTHING is balanced -> map patching, rush distances, etc
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JMave
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Singapore1803 Posts
November 23 2008 02:47 GMT
#44
Yeah I figured it was quite imbalanced. Okay I'm gna read up more. Thanks.
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QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-23 03:36:03
November 23 2008 03:31 GMT
#45
So after looking at this map I thought about making my own interpretation of this concept:

[image loading]

[image loading]


red circles is 1500 gas

You want it? I can send it to you to screw around with, but I didn't want my efforts to go to waste :/

nor do I want to post it on bwmn or make a forum thread, just putting it out there.
BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
November 23 2008 03:36 GMT
#46
QI's cyclop smiley > JMave's regular smiley.
If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-23 03:42:23
November 23 2008 03:39 GMT
#47
On November 23 2008 04:36 Chill wrote:
This must be a joke. This is literally the worst map I've ever seen. I can offer no advice, and may God have mercy on your soul.

:o People really have no respect for how difficult mapping is. This really isn't uncommon for a first map ever by a person. Obviously the map isn't good, but seriously, it's on par for average map making skill at TL IMO.
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
November 23 2008 03:58 GMT
#48
On November 23 2008 12:39 Chef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2008 04:36 Chill wrote:
This must be a joke. This is literally the worst map I've ever seen. I can offer no advice, and may God have mercy on your soul.

:o People really have no respect for how difficult mapping is. This really isn't uncommon for a first map ever by a person. Obviously the map isn't good, but seriously, it's on par for average map making skill at TL IMO.

no way, any noobie with half decent skill can at least recreate a common map with some changes. It wouldn't be THAT bad.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
November 23 2008 04:19 GMT
#49
So much white, ow mein eyes
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
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IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
November 23 2008 05:07 GMT
#50
On November 23 2008 12:39 Chef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2008 04:36 Chill wrote:
This must be a joke. This is literally the worst map I've ever seen. I can offer no advice, and may God have mercy on your soul.

:o People really have no respect for how difficult mapping is. This really isn't uncommon for a first map ever by a person. Obviously the map isn't good, but seriously, it's on par for average map making skill at TL IMO.

Haha yeah me and my friends use to play on random crap we made the point was to make it imba to your race haha
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
November 23 2008 05:25 GMT
#51
--- Nuked ---
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
November 23 2008 07:09 GMT
#52
Man...you guys are too harsh...

You should just go over to broodwarmaps. Much better help for map-making~

But if you want to improve your map, Quietidiot created one sexy map for good reference.
this is my quote.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
November 23 2008 07:15 GMT
#53
Hmm if you drop tanks behind main can the tanks reach the mins?
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closed
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vatican City State491 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-24 01:35:12
November 24 2008 01:33 GMT
#54
On November 22 2008 14:48 JMave wrote:

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HELLO KITTY!!!


[image loading]
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
November 25 2008 23:43 GMT
#55
oh my god this map is awesome

HELLO KITTY AND SMILEY HOLY SHIT
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
November 25 2008 23:47 GMT
#56
AHAHHAHAAHa
seriousl though jmave how old are you? i mean atl east put some more effort into your maps, if you want inspiration just look at the current OSL PL MSL maps and compare those to what've you just created

nooo where near :\
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pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5094 Posts
November 25 2008 23:58 GMT
#57
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA this is tha shizznit man
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 26 2008 01:05 GMT
#58
On November 23 2008 12:31 QuietIdiot wrote:
So after looking at this map I thought about making my own interpretation of this concept:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

[image loading]


red circles is 1500 gas

You want it? I can send it to you to screw around with, but I didn't want my efforts to go to waste :/

nor do I want to post it on bwmn or make a forum thread, just putting it out there.


It kind of looks like an upside-down Ride of Valkyries.
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A3iL3r0n
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States2196 Posts
November 26 2008 01:18 GMT
#59
God, the map name just sucks so much dick too.

How do you manage to use a computer? Or does someone turn it on for you and log in?
My psychiatrist says I have deep-seated Ragneuroses :(
Starparty
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Sweden1963 Posts
November 26 2008 01:19 GMT
#60
On November 24 2008 10:33 closed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2008 14:48 JMave wrote:

[image loading]



HELLO KITTY!!!


[image loading]


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The artist formerly known as Starparty
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
November 26 2008 02:11 GMT
#61
On November 26 2008 10:19 Starparty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2008 10:33 closed wrote:
On November 22 2008 14:48 JMave wrote:

[image loading]



HELLO KITTY!!!


[image loading]


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

ROFL, this thread gets better and better.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
November 26 2008 02:31 GMT
#62
On November 24 2008 10:33 closed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2008 14:48 JMave wrote:

[image loading]



HELLO KITTY!!!


[image loading]

loooolololoolololololoolololol
omg hardest i've laughed in AGES
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PePe QuiCoSE
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Argentina1204 Posts
November 27 2008 16:34 GMT
#63
LT clone



oh crap, wrong forum meme
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
November 27 2008 18:06 GMT
#64
I almost feel sorry for the poor OP.
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Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
March 24 2009 18:07 GMT
#65
bump
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
March 24 2009 18:23 GMT
#66
oh my god^^
what a bump lol

anyways i would like to know if the OP competed the map
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
March 24 2009 18:31 GMT
#67
hahaha i love this thread
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ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
March 24 2009 18:33 GMT
#68
haha epic bump ^_^
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pinenamu
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States770 Posts
March 24 2009 18:37 GMT
#69
i can't believe i missed this haha, nice bump
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
March 24 2009 18:38 GMT
#70
the 1.1 version looks nice
And all is illuminated.
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
March 24 2009 18:40 GMT
#71
On November 23 2008 04:36 Chill wrote:
This must be a joke. This is literally the worst map I've ever seen. I can offer no advice, and may God have mercy on your soul.


Lol all I see when you saying this is Simon from American Idol telling someone they fail at singing and should find a new hobby. I don't even watch that show but I see the similarities.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
March 24 2009 19:51 GMT
#72
On March 25 2009 03:40 Pufftrees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2008 04:36 Chill wrote:
This must be a joke. This is literally the worst map I've ever seen. I can offer no advice, and may God have mercy on your soul.


Lol all I see when you saying this is Simon from American Idol telling someone they fail at singing and should find a new hobby. I don't even watch that show but I see the similarities.


yeah.. i really laughed hard when I read that comment.
Solidus_315
Profile Joined January 2009
213 Posts
March 24 2009 20:02 GMT
#73
they are too big. You should make small maps first
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lgd-haze
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden547 Posts
March 24 2009 20:27 GMT
#74
Hahaha i love the sad face on 1.1!
Flying Tushin!!
inReacH
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Sweden1612 Posts
March 24 2009 21:20 GMT
#75
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