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Bifur
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Russian Federation1208 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-10 20:11:51
November 10 2008 20:10 GMT
#1
I just figured out that (T)NaDa is the only progamer who was always TOP 20 KeSPA since his first appearence in the ranking on March 2002
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/kespa_ranking.php?year=2002&month=3&action=Update

No one else can say that about himself. (T)NaDa is the most stable and the most successful progamer.

Somebody was talking about (T)BoxeR or (T)iloveoov, or (Z)sAviOr, or (Z)July? Ha-ha-ha. They are nothing in comparison with (T)NaDa.

Ok, ok, there is also (P)Bisu who can say the same, but he is just a kid who is playing in Starcraft only for two years. Two years of being TOP 20 KeSPA and six years of being TOP 20 KeSPA - there is a huge difference, right?
amoxicilline
Profile Joined August 2005
France1124 Posts
November 10 2008 20:12 GMT
#2
most old school pros have stopped playing though
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
November 10 2008 20:13 GMT
#3
I think that he is paid the most as well right? Like 800,000$ (equivalent) for three years
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-10 20:14:24
November 10 2008 20:13 GMT
#4
Amazing observation about NaDa, never even came to my mind, I thought he was just a chump with a few badges
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-10 20:14:05
November 10 2008 20:13 GMT
#5
OMG NO WAI DUDE NADA IS CONSISTENT??!?!?!?!
dats racist
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
November 10 2008 20:15 GMT
#6
This thread is not worthy of NaDa. Do a proper write up, or don't do it at all.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-10 20:17:54
November 10 2008 20:16 GMT
#7
(T)NaDa hasn't done anything since losing to sAviOr in Shinhan 3.

Top 20 doesn't mean jack, to be honest. sAviOr remained top long after his slump started. BoxeR/Oov/sAviOr/July are all relevent cus of their recent performances (well, boxeR's agelessly relevent).

If you want stable, look at Stork. Making the finals is what this man lives for, the final man.
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nK)Duke
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany936 Posts
November 10 2008 20:17 GMT
#8
July is still the most stable progamer.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14902 Posts
November 10 2008 20:17 GMT
#9
On November 11 2008 05:16 .risingdragoon wrote:
(T)NaDa hasn't done anything since losing to sAviOr in Shinhan 3.

Top 20 doesn't mean jack, to be honest. sAviOr remained top long after his slump started. BoxeR/Oov/sAviOr/July are all relevent cus of their recent performances.

If you want stable, look at Stork. Making the finals is what this man lives for, the final man.


what
boxer and oov have had good recent performances?
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-10 20:23:37
November 10 2008 20:19 GMT
#10
fuk yeah!

oov for his part in front and behind the scene, man's making news all the time

and boxer for his "showing up," yeah, that's boxer, he just needs to show up. When he doesn't, it's "Where's Boxer? Turn it offfff, Boxer's not on~~"

Look, as long as SC/progaming is alive, boxer's relevant.
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IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-10 20:43:32
November 10 2008 20:34 GMT
#11
On November 11 2008 05:17 nK)Duke wrote:
July is still the most stable progamer.

UNSTABLE you mean T_T his performance ranges so much year to year. I'd say someone like Anytime or GGplay whos performance has always been about the same.Yanrc is also who who doesn't seem to perform well but it always ranked etc. I would also consider Sea stable. Frankly anyone that breaks 50% win ratio without winning anything big is stable performance cause that means they lack a dominance streak to inflate their % like Nada and Savior have.
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
TopGear
Profile Joined November 2005
United Kingdom796 Posts
November 10 2008 20:34 GMT
#12
On November 11 2008 05:16 .risingdragoon wrote:
(T)NaDa hasn't done anything since losing to sAviOr in Shinhan 3.

Top 20 doesn't mean jack, to be honest. sAviOr remained top long after his slump started. BoxeR/Oov/sAviOr/July are all relevent cus of their recent performances (well, boxeR's agelessly relevent).

If you want stable, look at Stork. Making the finals is what this man lives for, the final man.


I agree with stork being pretty goddamn stable/consistent.
Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
November 10 2008 20:35 GMT
#13
I would say Stork is a pretty solid progamer. He always makes it pretty high up there in tourneys
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
November 10 2008 20:37 GMT
#14
That's pretty impressive, but you have to realize that there are many other gamers who have consistently not been in the top 20 of KeSPA, and that they deserve credit too. There are hundreds of progamers who have not won anything significant year after year, without ever having gotten any recognition for it. Stability isn't easy, it takes effort and dedication.
May the BeSt man win.
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
November 10 2008 20:38 GMT
#15
I think July is a player who can become incredibly hot when he really wants something (Like a golden mouse).
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51530 Posts
November 10 2008 20:41 GMT
#16
On November 11 2008 05:13 cgrinker wrote:
I think that he is paid the most as well right? Like 800,000$ (equivalent) for three years


Moon makes $25,000 per month which equates to $300,000 per year from what I've heard.
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nK)Duke
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany936 Posts
November 10 2008 20:41 GMT
#17
In a real fight between nada and july, there's not a slightly chance that nada would win.
Ry-Masta-T
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States478 Posts
November 10 2008 20:44 GMT
#18
Stable =/= wins titles. July did nothing for a year and a half. Stork has only been around for like 3 or 4 years. Nada is the only player that can be counted on to consistently have a fighting chance in every single match he plays.
Speak the word...
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
November 10 2008 20:51 GMT
#19
I agree that Nada is more stable. He does appear a lot in Starleagues. He has appeared in all Starleagues in 2008 with the exception of Bacchus OSL

2008 EVER OnGameNet Starleague Ro16
2008 Incruit OnGameNet Starleague Ro36(I'll consider the Ro36 part of the OSL since thats what TLPD says )

2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4 Ro8
2008 Arena MBCGame Starleague Ro16
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague Ro8

If MSL rules stay the same, Nada will then be seeded to the next MSL's Ro32
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
November 10 2008 20:54 GMT
#20
On November 11 2008 05:17 nK)Duke wrote:
July is still the most stable progamer.


I mean metaphorically not ability to stay rooted to the ground.
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