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pubbanana
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3063 Posts
November 10 2008 20:55 GMT
#21
On November 11 2008 05:41 nK)Duke wrote:
In a real fight between nada and july, there's not a slightly chance that nada would win.


NaDa isn't skinny like he used to be, he's been on a weight-gaining/muscle-building program for around 2 years now. He would fuck July's shit up REAL bad
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 10 2008 20:57 GMT
#22
On November 11 2008 05:41 GTR-2-Go wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2008 05:13 cgrinker wrote:
I think that he is paid the most as well right? Like 800,000$ (equivalent) for three years


Moon makes $25,000 per month which equates to $300,000 per year from what I've heard.


Salaries of progamers (can't verify the accuracy, but I suppose the numbers are still worth having):
http://weemee.com/weemee/issue/2

Keep in mind that these are salaries and don't take into account tournament winnings.
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Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
November 10 2008 21:00 GMT
#23
On November 11 2008 05:16 .risingdragoon wrote:
Top 20 doesn't mean jack, to be honest.


Fucking loled.

wtf man ?
GearitUP
Profile Joined November 2008
United States337 Posts
November 10 2008 21:07 GMT
#24
wow Nada stomps on the rest... Shizzz He makes bank for playing sc...
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Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
November 10 2008 21:08 GMT
#25
I'd have to agree that NaDa is indeed the most stable. To be playing for that long and relatively consistently show your face in top 16's is pretty impressive in my book.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-10 21:12:58
November 10 2008 21:10 GMT
#26
On November 11 2008 05:16 .risingdragoon wrote:
(T)NaDa hasn't done anything since losing to sAviOr in Shinhan 3.

Top 20 doesn't mean jack, to be honest. sAviOr remained top long after his slump started. BoxeR/Oov/sAviOr/July are all relevent cus of their recent performances (well, boxeR's agelessly relevent).

If you want stable, look at Stork. Making the finals is what this man lives for, the final man.


You talk about Shinhan 3 like it was ages ago. Honestly, in the history of a 10-year-old game, a year and a half isn't that long.

Stork's been consistent in his time, yes. How long has that been? He got his first silver in GOM MSL 2, which was barely more than a year ago. Stork being consistent for a year =/= Nada consistent for 5-6 years.
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
November 10 2008 21:10 GMT
#27
On November 11 2008 05:54 cgrinker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2008 05:17 nK)Duke wrote:
July is still the most stable progamer.


I mean metaphorically not ability to stay rooted to the ground.

Hahaha
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
November 10 2008 21:13 GMT
#28
On November 11 2008 05:41 nK)Duke wrote:
In a real fight between nada and july, there's not a slightly chance that nada would win.


TLPD says that nada has only lost twice out of the 10 total matches that they've had.

I think that nada is the most consistent every single season. Stork is also pretty good as well
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SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
November 10 2008 21:17 GMT
#29
On November 11 2008 05:41 GTR-2-Go wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2008 05:13 cgrinker wrote:
I think that he is paid the most as well right? Like 800,000$ (equivalent) for three years


Moon makes $25,000 per month which equates to $300,000 per year from what I've heard.


??? I was told he was the highest paid WC3 player at $10,000 a month. Is this $25,000 averaging out his prize money throughout the year as well?
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Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
November 10 2008 21:20 GMT
#30
On November 11 2008 05:16 .risingdragoon wrote:
(T)NaDa hasn't done anything since losing to sAviOr in Shinhan 3.

Top 20 doesn't mean jack, to be honest. sAviOr remained top long after his slump started. BoxeR/Oov/sAviOr/July are all relevent cus of their recent performances (well, boxeR's agelessly relevent).

If you want stable, look at Stork. Making the finals is what this man lives for, the final man.

If you call nothing making it to the ro8 in the MSL, ok Nada has done nothing.

It is quite clear that Nada is still a very strong player, though free crushed him handily. How the hell is Oov relevent? He is RETIRED. July is slumping again. Savior is not in any leagues except for the GSL and is probably about to get knocked out of it by free. Boxer?? He has been losing to scrubs. Nada has been performing and performing and still performing, just check his recent games. Nada has losses, but many are to good players. When Nada faces people like Sangho, he usually wins.
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GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
November 10 2008 21:20 GMT
#31
On November 11 2008 05:13 disciple wrote:
Amazing observation about NaDa, never even came to my mind, I thought he was just a chump with a few badges

LOL, good one!
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gg_hertzz
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
2152 Posts
November 10 2008 21:21 GMT
#32
On November 11 2008 05:38 Athos wrote:
I think July is a player who can become incredibly hot when he really wants something (Like a golden mouse).


or a twinkie
Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
November 10 2008 21:22 GMT
#33
iloveoov = 73 OSL matches
Reach = 103 OSL matches
NaDa = 108 OSL matches
July = 117 OSL matches
Boxer = 132 OSL matches
Yellow = 134 OSL matches

Conclusion: Yellow is the most stable progamer ;O!!
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-10 21:25:48
November 10 2008 21:23 GMT
#34
You really have to take in the amount of time that Nada's been around for this to seem impressive. His Starleague success began in 2002, so he's been consistently making (and doing well in) Starleagues for 6 years. Compare with other progamers:

Stork - first Starleague silver in 2007, around a little more than a year
Savior - first Starleague gold in 2005, 3 years
July - first Starleague gold in 2004, 4 years
iloveoov - first Starleague gold in 2003, retired in early 2008, 4 years

The only long-time "consistent" progamer that's been around longer than Nada is Boxer, and these days, its undeniable that Nada has been doing significantly better than Boxer in individual leagues.

On November 11 2008 06:22 Guybrush wrote:
iloveoov = 73 OSL matches
Reach = 103 OSL matches
NaDa = 108 OSL matches
July = 117 OSL matches
Boxer = 132 OSL matches
Yellow = 134 OSL matches

Conclusion: Yellow is the most stable progamer ;O!!


Nah, it just means that Yellow's lost more key Bo5s 2-3, while monster Terran, Mantoss, and NaDa have dominated more opponents 3-0.
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Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
November 10 2008 21:24 GMT
#35
On November 11 2008 05:35 Racenilatr wrote:
I would say Stork is a pretty solid progamer. He always makes it pretty high up there in tourneys

When I read the thread title I was actaully expecting this to be about Stork, not Nada. I figured Nada would of dropped out of top 20 at some point over the years, guess I am worng.
Bifur
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Russian Federation1208 Posts
November 10 2008 21:45 GMT
#36
On November 11 2008 06:24 Mastermind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2008 05:35 Racenilatr wrote:
I would say Stork is a pretty solid progamer. He always makes it pretty high up there in tourneys

When I read the thread title I was actaully expecting this to be about Stork, not Nada. I figured Nada would of dropped out of top 20 at some point over the years, guess I am worng.

Yes, you are wrong. I checked all rankings.
Bifur
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Russian Federation1208 Posts
November 10 2008 21:50 GMT
#37
On November 11 2008 05:16 .risingdragoon wrote:
(T)NaDa hasn't done anything since losing to sAviOr in Shinhan 3.

Top 20 doesn't mean jack, to be honest. sAviOr remained top long after his slump started. BoxeR/Oov/sAviOr/July are all relevent cus of their recent performances (well, boxeR's agelessly relevent).

If you want stable, look at Stork. Making the finals is what this man lives for, the final man.


Even in making finals Strok loses to NaDa.

NaDa made 4 OSL finals appearences and 6 MSL finals appearences = 10 finals in 6 years.

Stork made only 3 OSL finals and 1 MSL finals = 4 finals in 3 years. Even if you double this number to get 6 years of progaming as NaDa you will get only 8 finals.
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
November 10 2008 22:03 GMT
#38
I really don't see how this can be argued. Nada has the best mental strength of any pro ever and nobody even comes close to him in consistency. oov and Savior were not examples of consistency, they were the dominant ones (Nada was #3/4). I don't particularly like him because he's boring, but he has been an iconic Terran leader in so many different generations you can't possibly ignore him.

July has nothing on Nada. Golden mouse and a KTF championship is good but Nada has double the starleague titles, more second places, and more other random tourney victories, (Ghem, Chinese tourneys, some I'm forgetting. His TLPD has 17 top 3 finishes not including the foreign tournies. wow). July is still only 4th most accomplished player anyways, behind oov and then Savior.

oov is still relevant cause he's owning as coach and July did just win EVER 08. Savior did win Blizzcon against mediocre competition (Nada lol). Only Boxer is truly not doing anything this year, but that will all change in December.
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CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
November 10 2008 22:32 GMT
#39
How are you all forgetting Rock? He consistently sucks. He also consistently makes it into the OSL and then consistently fails.
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kefkalives
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Australia1272 Posts
November 10 2008 22:36 GMT
#40
Stork has been a consistent top 4 finisher i guess, he's really just consistency at such a high high level. plus he's amazing in proleague too.
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