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On November 11 2008 05:41 nK)Duke wrote: In a real fight between nada and july, there's not a slightly chance that nada would win.
NaDa isn't skinny like he used to be, he's been on a weight-gaining/muscle-building program for around 2 years now. He would fuck July's shit up REAL bad
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On November 11 2008 05:41 GTR-2-Go wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2008 05:13 cgrinker wrote: I think that he is paid the most as well right? Like 800,000$ (equivalent) for three years Moon makes $25,000 per month which equates to $300,000 per year from what I've heard.
Salaries of progamers (can't verify the accuracy, but I suppose the numbers are still worth having): http://weemee.com/weemee/issue/2
Keep in mind that these are salaries and don't take into account tournament winnings.
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On November 11 2008 05:16 .risingdragoon wrote: Top 20 doesn't mean jack, to be honest.
Fucking loled.
wtf man ?
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wow Nada stomps on the rest... Shizzz He makes bank for playing sc...
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I'd have to agree that NaDa is indeed the most stable. To be playing for that long and relatively consistently show your face in top 16's is pretty impressive in my book.
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On November 11 2008 05:16 .risingdragoon wrote: NaDa hasn't done anything since losing to sAviOr in Shinhan 3. Top 20 doesn't mean jack, to be honest. sAviOr remained top long after his slump started. BoxeR/Oov/sAviOr/July are all relevent cus of their recent performances (well, boxeR's agelessly relevent). If you want stable, look at Stork. Making the finals is what this man lives for, the final man.
You talk about Shinhan 3 like it was ages ago. Honestly, in the history of a 10-year-old game, a year and a half isn't that long.
Stork's been consistent in his time, yes. How long has that been? He got his first silver in GOM MSL 2, which was barely more than a year ago. Stork being consistent for a year =/= Nada consistent for 5-6 years.
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Sweden33719 Posts
On November 11 2008 05:54 cgrinker wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2008 05:17 nK)Duke wrote: July is still the most stable progamer. I mean metaphorically not ability to stay rooted to the ground. Hahaha
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United States17042 Posts
On November 11 2008 05:41 nK)Duke wrote: In a real fight between nada and july, there's not a slightly chance that nada would win.
TLPD says that nada has only lost twice out of the 10 total matches that they've had.
I think that nada is the most consistent every single season. Stork is also pretty good as well
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On November 11 2008 05:41 GTR-2-Go wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2008 05:13 cgrinker wrote: I think that he is paid the most as well right? Like 800,000$ (equivalent) for three years Moon makes $25,000 per month which equates to $300,000 per year from what I've heard.
??? I was told he was the highest paid WC3 player at $10,000 a month. Is this $25,000 averaging out his prize money throughout the year as well?
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On November 11 2008 05:16 .risingdragoon wrote: NaDa hasn't done anything since losing to sAviOr in Shinhan 3. Top 20 doesn't mean jack, to be honest. sAviOr remained top long after his slump started. BoxeR/Oov/sAviOr/July are all relevent cus of their recent performances (well, boxeR's agelessly relevent). If you want stable, look at Stork. Making the finals is what this man lives for, the final man. If you call nothing making it to the ro8 in the MSL, ok Nada has done nothing.
It is quite clear that Nada is still a very strong player, though free crushed him handily. How the hell is Oov relevent? He is RETIRED. July is slumping again. Savior is not in any leagues except for the GSL and is probably about to get knocked out of it by free. Boxer?? He has been losing to scrubs. Nada has been performing and performing and still performing, just check his recent games. Nada has losses, but many are to good players. When Nada faces people like Sangho, he usually wins.
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On November 11 2008 05:13 disciple wrote: Amazing observation about NaDa, never even came to my mind, I thought he was just a chump with a few badges LOL, good one!
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On November 11 2008 05:38 Athos wrote: I think July is a player who can become incredibly hot when he really wants something (Like a golden mouse).
or a twinkie
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iloveoov = 73 OSL matches Reach = 103 OSL matches NaDa = 108 OSL matches July = 117 OSL matches Boxer = 132 OSL matches Yellow = 134 OSL matches
Conclusion: Yellow is the most stable progamer ;O!!
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You really have to take in the amount of time that Nada's been around for this to seem impressive. His Starleague success began in 2002, so he's been consistently making (and doing well in) Starleagues for 6 years. Compare with other progamers:
Stork - first Starleague silver in 2007, around a little more than a year Savior - first Starleague gold in 2005, 3 years July - first Starleague gold in 2004, 4 years iloveoov - first Starleague gold in 2003, retired in early 2008, 4 years
The only long-time "consistent" progamer that's been around longer than Nada is Boxer, and these days, its undeniable that Nada has been doing significantly better than Boxer in individual leagues.
On November 11 2008 06:22 Guybrush wrote: iloveoov = 73 OSL matches Reach = 103 OSL matches NaDa = 108 OSL matches July = 117 OSL matches Boxer = 132 OSL matches Yellow = 134 OSL matches
Conclusion: Yellow is the most stable progamer ;O!!
Nah, it just means that Yellow's lost more key Bo5s 2-3, while monster Terran, Mantoss, and NaDa have dominated more opponents 3-0. 
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On November 11 2008 05:35 Racenilatr wrote: I would say Stork is a pretty solid progamer. He always makes it pretty high up there in tourneys When I read the thread title I was actaully expecting this to be about Stork, not Nada. I figured Nada would of dropped out of top 20 at some point over the years, guess I am worng.
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On November 11 2008 06:24 Mastermind wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2008 05:35 Racenilatr wrote: I would say Stork is a pretty solid progamer. He always makes it pretty high up there in tourneys When I read the thread title I was actaully expecting this to be about Stork, not Nada. I figured Nada would of dropped out of top 20 at some point over the years, guess I am worng. Yes, you are wrong. I checked all rankings.
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On November 11 2008 05:16 .risingdragoon wrote: NaDa hasn't done anything since losing to sAviOr in Shinhan 3. Top 20 doesn't mean jack, to be honest. sAviOr remained top long after his slump started. BoxeR/Oov/sAviOr/July are all relevent cus of their recent performances (well, boxeR's agelessly relevent). If you want stable, look at Stork. Making the finals is what this man lives for, the final man.
Even in making finals Strok loses to NaDa.
NaDa made 4 OSL finals appearences and 6 MSL finals appearences = 10 finals in 6 years.
Stork made only 3 OSL finals and 1 MSL finals = 4 finals in 3 years. Even if you double this number to get 6 years of progaming as NaDa you will get only 8 finals.
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United States2186 Posts
I really don't see how this can be argued. Nada has the best mental strength of any pro ever and nobody even comes close to him in consistency. oov and Savior were not examples of consistency, they were the dominant ones (Nada was #3/4). I don't particularly like him because he's boring, but he has been an iconic Terran leader in so many different generations you can't possibly ignore him.
July has nothing on Nada. Golden mouse and a KTF championship is good but Nada has double the starleague titles, more second places, and more other random tourney victories, (Ghem, Chinese tourneys, some I'm forgetting. His TLPD has 17 top 3 finishes not including the foreign tournies. wow). July is still only 4th most accomplished player anyways, behind oov and then Savior.
oov is still relevant cause he's owning as coach and July did just win EVER 08. Savior did win Blizzcon against mediocre competition (Nada lol). Only Boxer is truly not doing anything this year, but that will all change in December.
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How are you all forgetting Rock? He consistently sucks. He also consistently makes it into the OSL and then consistently fails.
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Stork has been a consistent top 4 finisher i guess, he's really just consistency at such a high high level. plus he's amazing in proleague too.
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