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SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
November 12 2008 09:29 GMT
#121
Actually, Best is the most stable consistant progamer of ALL TIME. Thank you for listening.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
November 12 2008 10:56 GMT
#122
On November 12 2008 11:23 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2008 11:14 .risingdragoon wrote:
What paper? I didn't know SC's playable "on paper?"

That's the whole point isn't it? Top 20 sounds good but doesn't mean he'll win against someone of lower rank.

good thing they just randomly assign the top 20 and it isnt earned in some way


Like the power rank!

+ Show Spoiler +
Joke


But yeah, I never really realized NaDa did this well. I find it pretty amazing.
cujo2k
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada1044 Posts
November 12 2008 11:01 GMT
#123
of course nada is the greatest, most accomplished and most consistent pro ever. but since 07, the most consistent players have been jaedong/stork, the two guys with the highest winning % since that time I believe.
THE ANSWER IS 288
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
November 12 2008 11:18 GMT
#124
Well yeah, I'd agree with you, nada is the only one with 3 osls and msls.

I don't know how many semi-finals/finals he has appeared on but I think that boxer can contest with that, Legend of Fall is more of a Curse for him, hehe.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
1tym
Profile Joined April 2005
Korea (South)2425 Posts
November 12 2008 11:43 GMT
#125
Most dominant of all times - Oov
Most charismatic of all times - Boxer
Most acomplished of all times - Nada
Most consistently competitive of all times - Nada
1tym is one time for your mind
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
November 12 2008 13:10 GMT
#126
The most consistent pro gamer is Mumjung. He has always sucked.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
November 12 2008 13:46 GMT
#127
On November 12 2008 20:43 1tym wrote:
Most dominant of all times - Oov
Most charismatic of all times - Boxer
Most acomplished of all times - Nada
Most consistently competitive of all times - Nada



and now close this thread
otherwise 1000 new teamliquid users will spawn who werent even around at NaDas time and post shit..
hatred outlives the hateful
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
November 12 2008 14:13 GMT
#128
On November 12 2008 22:46 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2008 20:43 1tym wrote:
Most dominant of all times - Oov
Most charismatic of all times - Boxer
Most acomplished of all times - Nada
Most consistently competitive of all times - Nada



and now close this thread
otherwise 1000 new teamliquid users will spawn who werent even around at NaDas time and post shit..


Word
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
November 12 2008 14:15 GMT
#129
On November 12 2008 22:10 DrainX wrote:
The most consistent pro gamer is Mumjung. He has always sucked.



This is a solid point
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
November 12 2008 14:16 GMT
#130
For the people who don't understand and think Nada is not consistent at all:

Nada can beat all of the people some of the time
and can beat some of the people all of the time

But noone else can do that 7 fucking years straight
abandonallhope
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Sweden563 Posts
November 12 2008 14:18 GMT
#131
NaDa kicks fucking ass, yes. But we already knew that.
Wurzelbrumpft
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany471 Posts
November 12 2008 16:20 GMT
#132
i wouldnt call that consistent, back when he won stuff he was the best, having a high chance of winning no matter who he plays. Now he loses in the quarterfinals of some tournament, or doesnt even make the qualification. if he loses the qualification game, but wins 4 other games in proleague or whereever, his winning percentage is still 80% but you shouldnt be calling that consistent
beam me up scotty, this planet suxX
lxginverse
Profile Joined May 2008
Monaco1506 Posts
November 12 2008 17:07 GMT
#133
On November 12 2008 11:05 omfghi2u2 wrote:
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On November 11 2008 05:44 Ry-Masta-T wrote:
Stable =/= wins titles. July did nothing for a year and a half. Stork has only been around for like 3 or 4 years. Nada is the only player that can be counted on to consistently have a fighting chance in every single match he plays.



except against free


:p


Nada hands down
fromis_9 enjoyer
Baddieko
Profile Joined October 2008
Singapore855 Posts
November 12 2008 17:12 GMT
#134
U cannot compare now and then. Last time there are little good progamers so 1 player tends to be dominant for long. Nada's skill have not dropped but the rest have got better. Nowadays, players in top 30 kespa can do the tricks nada,boxer,iloveoov,july used to do. In the past, they pioneered some style thats why they dominate. Starcraft evolution has slowed down as the game is ageing. Now it all depend on which player make mistake first to decide a game. If stork used the present skill to go back to the past and start the career same time as nada, he would be the 1 dominating and not nada.

So any dominance in the past is due to pioneering but we have to give credit to that.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
November 12 2008 17:15 GMT
#135
On November 13 2008 02:12 Baddieko wrote:
U cannot compare now and then. Last time there are little good progamers so 1 player tends to be dominant for long. Nada's skill have not dropped but the rest have got better. Nowadays, players in top 30 kespa can do the tricks nada,boxer,iloveoov,july used to do. In the past, they pioneered some style thats why they dominate. Starcraft evolution has slowed down as the game is ageing. Now it all depend on which player make mistake first to decide a game. If stork used the present skill to go back to the past and start the career same time as nada, he would be the 1 dominating and not nada.

So any dominance in the past is due to pioneering but we have to give credit to that.


thats just evolution of the game yo

that happens in anything that is competitive

what you are saying would mean that the past should never be compared to the present in an evolving sport

which maybe is right but we are doing it anyways so there is nothing to gain from pointing this out
tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
November 12 2008 17:21 GMT
#136
On November 11 2008 05:54 cgrinker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2008 05:17 nK)Duke wrote:
July is still the most stable progamer.


I mean metaphorically not ability to stay rooted to the ground.


lol
Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
November 12 2008 19:49 GMT
#137
stork>july in stableness
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10830 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-12 20:03:58
November 12 2008 20:01 GMT
#138
On November 13 2008 01:20 Wurzelbrumpft wrote:
i wouldnt call that consistent, back when he won stuff he was the best, having a high chance of winning no matter who he plays. Now he loses in the quarterfinals of some tournament, or doesnt even make the qualification. if he loses the qualification game, but wins 4 other games in proleague or whereever, his winning percentage is still 80% but you shouldnt be calling that consistent

you make it sound as if making it into the quarterfinals of a league isn't an accomplishment.

how many players that were active in 2002 regularly qualify for one if not both individual leagues every single season? guess who he was playing back in 2002:
ChRh, TheMarine, IntoTheRain, Oddysay, GARIMTO, JinNam, HOT-Forever, Zeus, fOru, Grrrr..., SoNiC)BlacK, YellOw, Sync, SonJjang, JinSoO, )Is(City just to name a few.
How many of them even play professionally anymore?

just in the past couple years alone he has qualified for:
MSL: GOMTV S2, S3, S4, Arena 2008, ClubDay 2008
OSL: Daum, EVER 2007, EVER 2008, Incruit

how many players can maintain a 60% win rate for over a period of nearly 7 years?
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
November 12 2008 20:05 GMT
#139
On November 13 2008 01:20 Wurzelbrumpft wrote:
i wouldnt call that consistent, back when he won stuff he was the best, having a high chance of winning no matter who he plays. Now he loses in the quarterfinals of some tournament, or doesnt even make the qualification. if he loses the qualification game, but wins 4 other games in proleague or whereever, his winning percentage is still 80% but you shouldnt be calling that consistent

LOL wut?

Not many players make it to the quarterfinals of the MSL, and the MSL isn't just "some touarnament". Even Jaedong failed to make the OSL qualifications, and I don't think anyone can say that Jaedong isn't one of the strongest players of today.
xhuwin
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States476 Posts
November 12 2008 20:46 GMT
#140
On November 11 2008 05:41 nK)Duke wrote:
In a real fight between nada and july, there's not a slightly chance that nada would win.


LOL
xyn
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