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SayaSP
Laos5494 Posts
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only_human89
United States212 Posts
On November 11 2008 05:16 .risingdragoon wrote:  NaDa hasn't done anything since losing to sAviOr in Shinhan 3.Top 20 doesn't mean jack, to be honest. sAviOr remained top long after his slump started. BoxeR/Oov/sAviOr/July are all relevent cus of their recent performances (well, boxeR's agelessly relevent). If you want stable, look at Stork. Making the finals is what this man lives for, the final man. Nada may not have won many titles lately but he is certainly the most consistent progamer of all time. "Top 20 doesn't mean jack", lmao. Ok so those guys are in the top 20 because they lose all the time? Give me a break. And obvioulsy Nada remained in the top long after his slump started as well(if it can even be called a slump for him). In fact it's never even mentioned that Nada is in a slump because he always consistenly qualifies for the OSL and MSL, unlike sAviOr as of late. So not only does Nada perform consistenly in Kespa he also qualifies for Star Leagues regularily as well. At this point I know I sound hugely biased but risingdragoon you are serioulsy underestimating such an accomplishment by Nada. And as far as your comment about Stork goes, you should change it to "Making the finals is what this man lives and dies for". Seeing as that's usually what he does in them. No offense Stork loL! | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
New players break out from the pack all the time, their low rank's not an indication of their form. If anyone want to argue a player's "consistent" he has to be consistently competitive. Again, Nada hasn't been competitive since Shinhan 3 (Masters is a for-kicks sponsor's event). Does anyone care that someone's statistically in the top 20 when he can't play a good game of starcraft? I can only think of Boxer as kind of being the case, and even then he puts on shows from time to time. Really, maybe only the top 7's an up-to-date indication of form + the occasional huge jump of 20/30 ranks from the bottom. | ||
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omfghi2u2
United States831 Posts
On November 11 2008 05:44 Ry-Masta-T wrote: Stable =/= wins titles. July did nothing for a year and a half. Stork has only been around for like 3 or 4 years. Nada is the only player that can be counted on to consistently have a fighting chance in every single match he plays. except against free | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 12 2008 11:05 omfghi2u2 wrote:except against free On paper he still had a chance. Free happened to play like a baller. That doesn't change the fact that on paper, Nada had a fighting chance. | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
That's the whole point isn't it? Top 20 sounds good but doesn't mean he'll win against someone of lower rank. | ||
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Choros
Australia530 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On November 12 2008 11:14 .risingdragoon wrote: What paper? I didn't know SC's playable "on paper?" That's the whole point isn't it? Top 20 sounds good but doesn't mean he'll win against someone of lower rank. good thing they just randomly assign the top 20 and it isnt earned in some way | ||
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Augury
United States758 Posts
On November 11 2008 05:15 Chef wrote: This thread is not worthy of NaDa. Do a proper write up, or don't do it at all. Agreed NaDa is a beast and I think a large reason he's done so well is his mechanics. Boxer relies on his strategic play and micro... his play style just isn't as suited towards a 'stable' career. The same can be said for a lot of other players as well. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 12 2008 10:50 .risingdragoon wrote: Being "consistent" doesn't mean anything. Is it consistently bad? Consistently so-so? Consistently tops? New players break out from the pack all the time, their low rank's not an indication of their form. If anyone want to argue a player's "consistent" he has to be consistently competitive. Again, Nada hasn't been competitive since Shinhan 3 (Masters is a for-kicks sponsor's event). Does anyone care that someone's statistically in the top 20 when he can't play a good game of starcraft? I can only think of Boxer as kind of being the case, and even then he puts on shows from time to time. Really, maybe only the top 7's an up-to-date indication of form + the occasional huge jump of 20/30 ranks from the bottom. Even if you consider that he hasn't "done anything" since Shinhan 3, that's still a successful career of 5 years, which is longer than pretty much any other player out there. Regardless of how meaningful/less you think it is, it doesn't change the fact that he's the ONLY PLAYER TO DO IT. | ||
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koreasilver
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GHOSTCLAW
United States17042 Posts
On November 12 2008 11:27 vsrooks wrote: Agreed NaDa is a beast and I think a large reason he's done so well is his mechanics. Boxer relies on his strategic play and micro... his play style just isn't as suited towards a 'stable' career. The same can be said for a lot of other players as well. His mechanics right now are the thing that's keeping him around, but he innovated as well. Tornado T, as well as skT were both popularized by him. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
On November 11 2008 05:16 .risingdragoon wrote: NaDa hasn't done anything since losing to sAviOr in Shinhan 3.Top 20 doesn't mean jack, to be honest. sAviOr remained top long after his slump started. BoxeR/Oov/sAviOr/July are all relevent cus of their recent performances (well, boxeR's agelessly relevent). If you want stable, look at Stork. Making the finals is what this man lives for, the final man. To be completely fair, neither has sAvior. And people still will take Nada or Savior over the best of them today, regardless of out of shape they are. On November 12 2008 12:58 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote: His mechanics right now are the thing that's keeping him around, but he innovated as well. Tornado T, as well as skT were both popularized by him. Perhaps, but not really. His mechanics aren't really up to what they used to be so it's certainly not keeping him competitive. And the original Tornado T and SK Terran are about as useful as Gartimo's Goon/Zeal innovations; there's so much more to the builds than the simple one-sentence justice we give them. I would say that more likely his game sense, experience, and the willingness to play nonstandard is what's keeping him most competitive at this point. | ||
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only_human89
United States212 Posts
On November 12 2008 11:23 IdrA wrote: good thing they just randomly assign the top 20 and it isnt earned in some way OWNED | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
For the love of god, who seriously says "OWNED" anymore? | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
On November 12 2008 16:35 EvilTeletubby wrote: For the love of god, who seriously says "OWNED" anymore? You need to play more video games PWNED newb L2Knowledge plz | ||
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Nytefish
United Kingdom4282 Posts
On November 12 2008 18:00 MYM.Testie wrote: You need to play more video games PWNED newb L2Knowledge plz Or maybe you should stop playing with 12 year olds :D. | ||
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NiGoL
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17733 Posts
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