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On November 11 2008 05:37 Djabanete wrote:
That's pretty impressive, but you have to realize that there are many other gamers who have consistently not been in the top 20 of KeSPA, and that they deserve credit too. There are hundreds of progamers who have not won anything significant year after year, without ever having gotten any recognition for it. Stability isn't easy, it takes effort and dedication.
yeah agreed, think about tossgirl, that is stable progamer, her rank and stats havent changed in years yet she is a progamer..
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On November 11 2008 08:12 Hyperbola wrote:
I don't see why July is not considered stable. He did win the golden mouse... I suppose Nada may have a good kespa score but that means nothing when he remains trophy-less.
Go look up who won the first Golden Mouse ever and you'll see why this post fails.
This thread really makes me feel old. I still remember when oov and July were "those crazy new kids."
On November 11 2008 09:07 Racenilatr wrote:
well looking at how long stork and nada have been around. Stork has been stable 100% of his carear while nada has been.....idk? I wasnt around when nada started lol
Nada was arguably just as dominant in his prime as Stork is in his (relatively speaking of course, naturally the skill level has gone up, but Nada is one of the only pro gamers that's been able to match the meteoric rise in skill level).
As has been stated, Stork being stable for 100% of his career is impossible to compare to Nada, because his career has only been a small fraction of Nada's.
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On November 11 2008 09:09 malongo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2008 05:37 Djabanete wrote:
That's pretty impressive, but you have to realize that there are many other gamers who have consistently not been in the top 20 of KeSPA, and that they deserve credit too. There are hundreds of progamers who have not won anything significant year after year, without ever having gotten any recognition for it. Stability isn't easy, it takes effort and dedication. yeah agreed, think about tossgirl, that is stable progamer, her rank and stats havent changed in years yet she is a progamer..
You can sorta assume that its someone whos "good" and that we like to watch methinks
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On November 11 2008 09:07 Racenilatr wrote:
well looking at how long stork and nada have been around. Stork has been stable 100% of his carear while nada has been.....idk? I wasnt around when nada started lol
What? Do you even know when Stork first came around? Stork has been around at LEAST since 2004.
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lol i actually have no clue what im talking about...i have a headache and im just stupid like that
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On November 11 2008 09:24 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2008 09:07 Racenilatr wrote:
well looking at how long stork and nada have been around. Stork has been stable 100% of his carear while nada has been.....idk? I wasnt around when nada started lol What? Do you even know when Stork first came around? Stork has been around at LEAST since 2004.
He didn't get gold/silver in any Starleagues until 2007. In some sense, his career had a lot of build-up time.
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wcg doenst count as a starleague right?
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On November 11 2008 07:42 delanZia wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2008 07:32 CDRdude wrote:
How are you all forgetting Rock? He consistently sucks. He also consistently makes it into the OSL and then consistently fails. haha i was about to post this myself, its not just that he sucks its that pretty much every game he plays he plays the same (reaver to carrier) which to be fair to him is enough to qualify for everything but not enough to win anything. Stable consistency at its best
That's a good point. Rock even plays more consistently than other pros (two base carrier PvT always makes the OSL). Also, his Kespa rank is more consistent than NaDa's. NaDa was in top 20 for a long time, so that's a range of 20 places. Rock has been between 30 and 19, a range of 11 places ^_^
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On November 11 2008 09:30 Racenilatr wrote:
wcg doenst count as a starleague right?
No it doesn't. WCG games are also not KESPA ranked.
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On November 11 2008 05:15 Chef wrote:
This thread is not worthy of NaDa. Do a proper write up, or don't do it at all.
The OP did find an interesting fact (to the relatively new proscene followers at least). There are a million threads here that don't have a "proper" write up (and still generated some good discussion) so I think you should stop complaining.
Oh snap my 1000th post.
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On November 11 2008 05:12 amoxicilline wrote:
most old school pros have stopped playing though This speaks in favor of Nada, not against him. Most old school progamers retired because they couldn't compete with the new wave of progamers, so in that sense, they were forced to retire.
Nada is impressive in that he is able to consistently qualify for OSL and MSL even after playing for so long. I don't think any other progamer that started around the same time as Nada can say the same.
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Stork is pretty consistent. The man is beast.
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just wondering when is Nada going to get recruited to the army???
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On November 11 2008 08:27 Darkmole wrote:
well i gotta say this is a bad write up...
who cares if he stayed at the top 20 kespa ranking...
was he able to beat boxer 18 month #1 kespa ranking? no....
but he did have the highest points ever or something like that..
Actually Boxer was #1 for 17 months straight and NaDa 16 months straight.
Both were #1 for 17 months but one of NaDa's months as #1 was cut off from rest.
However, NaDa was in top 3 of Kespa ranking for 35 months, or nearly 3 years. No one else even comes close.
All these stats can be found here on TL.
Therefore, I also think NaDa has been the most stable player in history.
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On November 11 2008 09:18 TheYango wrote:
Nada was arguably just as dominant in his prime as Stork is in his (relatively speaking of course, naturally the skill level has gone up, but Nada is one of the only pro gamers that's been able to match the meteoric rise in skill level).
As has been stated, Stork being stable for 100% of his career is impossible to compare to Nada, because his career has only been a small fraction of Nada's.
nada was undoubtedly more dominant, it really was that ridiculous
not as ridiculous as savior though
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The most consistent player at the moment would be Stork.
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On November 11 2008 05:16 .risingdragoon wrote: NaDa hasn't done anything since losing to sAviOr in Shinhan 3. Top 20 doesn't mean jack, to be honest. sAviOr remained top long after his slump started. BoxeR/Oov/sAviOr/July are all relevent cus of their recent performances (well, boxeR's agelessly relevent). If you want stable, look at Stork. Making the finals is what this man lives for, the final man.
Shinhan Masters.
Nada beat down a hot Iris and 3-1'ed savior.
He's been about 50-50 with savior ever since.
Made MSL quarters consistently and gets at least tv time on OSL which is damn impressive, despite the heavy amount of good tosses on the scene atm.
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Ok, everyone comparing other players stability to Nada's is because either they have a very short memory or just to new to the scene. Although it is relevant, just judging stableness by counting days is inaccurate.
What makes Nada the most stable progamer EVER, is that he was always there somewhere around the top through ALL different progaming stages. He is not from the old school age, the new school age, the macro age or the island maps age. He is part of all of them.
He was there when Z>>>P imba, when 2rax 1fac was standard BO for TvZ, he was there when they had retarded island maps like Paradoxx, he was there when FD in TvP became standard, and he is still here now when being a macro whore is the standard gaming style.
A lot of top pros have fallen or become average when the paradigms of some MUs changed, when the maps that allowed their unorthodox builds were replaced, etc... Not Nada. He adapted to every new age of SC with more or less success, but always managed to be considered a big threat.
That's why he is the most stable progamer. The change of a few variables in the game won't affect him like it does to others. He is rock solid, no matter what the changing times throw at him. He has lived through virtually every single revolution that came into SC since the beginning. Some gamers have survived through some eras, but no one has survived trough ALL of them. No one but Nada.
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On November 11 2008 10:21 meegrean wrote:
The most consistent player at the moment would be Stork.
Oxymoron much? 
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