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clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
October 13 2008 16:31 GMT
#21
Oh I didn't give my answer ^^

It's been 1.5 years since I played the game. Well it's gonna be 2 years starting from February 09, but during this time I've hit C- twice and the two times were when I both played ICCUP.

So I guess it depends on the person. I play TvP and PvX matchups
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SkY)CosMoS
Profile Joined July 2006
Dominican Republic106 Posts
October 13 2008 16:35 GMT
#22
it really depends on the person I remember playing bw for 3-4 years about 4 years ago and some kid that was a friends cousin had just got into the game 3 months ago and beat me pretty badly, some people are just naturally more skilled, he turned out to be Darki
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
October 13 2008 16:49 GMT
#23
Between the person and the practice there is a lot of variation of how long it takes. If you're D+, it means that you're going to be able to keep improving by yourself if you just play//practice. Mass game, play with friends, and enjoy yourself and get better.

if you play with friends that are at//above your skill level, not only will you get better, but you'll keep playing the game because your friends will wonder where you are if you stop playing.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
October 13 2008 17:10 GMT
#24
I'd be happy to hit D+ with the amount I play!
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
October 13 2008 17:15 GMT
#25
this is completely normal
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
October 13 2008 17:33 GMT
#26
On October 14 2008 00:54 freedom yay wrote:
i've been playing on and off for about 2 years (like 2 games a day or sometimes less) and I'm D-. It's not the years it's the hours

more practice you put in, the better you will be. simple as that.
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
October 13 2008 17:33 GMT
#27
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Red.Cloud
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada235 Posts
October 13 2008 18:08 GMT
#28
if u did ums b4 like i did ( 5 years) and only started 1v1 play and have not been too serious it is okay just have fun and keep at it
.gypsy
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada689 Posts
October 13 2008 18:45 GMT
#29
On October 13 2008 22:35 Kolll wrote:
it's very bad. for example me.. i play sc for 5months and reached in my first season iccup b- and im c+ right now so it's gotta be pretty bad to be at d+ lvl after 1year


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NastyMarine
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States1252 Posts
October 13 2008 18:55 GMT
#30
On October 13 2008 23:00 KrAzYfoOL wrote:
What does it matter as long as you're having fun right ?

Also please ignore Kolll, he's clearly full of shit.


+1
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NastyMarine
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States1252 Posts
October 13 2008 18:56 GMT
#31
On October 13 2008 23:15 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2008 22:35 Kolll wrote:
it's very bad. for example me.. i play sc for 5months and reached in my first season iccup b- and im c+ right now so it's gotta be pretty bad to be at d+ lvl after 1year

OMG you SO nub i pWn u ez u Stone AGe noob. I'm in GosU clan [ROxOR-L33t] @ EAST and I'm A+ ICCUP in 2 Days.
Kill' UrSELF nub !


+10
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SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
October 13 2008 18:58 GMT
#32
I lol'd at Koll
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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-13 20:27:26
October 13 2008 20:17 GMT
#33
On October 14 2008 02:33 randomKo_Orean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2008 21:51 Boblion wrote:
D+ is already a good achievement. It means that you understand how the game works and that you know basic Bos, micro tricks and hotkeys .

Someone who is D+ would have been a good player in 2000-2002
Just mass play with friends or in ladder and try to find a mentor who is better than you then you will get better for sure.

I don't really think there is a skill "wall" before C+ level. If you practise you will get better.

That's bullcrap.

maybe C


Duh ?
You really underestimate D+ players or you don't play ICCUP.
A D+ player can beat 2 really bad D- players
Even Jaedong cant beat 2 D+ players because even if D+ players usually don't have a good macro or micro , they understand the basics.

If you don't agree go bet games.

You won't see D+ protoss players going forge-gate or one gate carriers ( like the really bad D- ). They will use 2gates / one gate tech / or fe builds for example in PvZ. Their army control and macro won't be perfect but they will use hotkeys. They also know the basics micro tricks ( reaver micro; maybe even muta micro for sure the execution will often be bad ) and the units counters.
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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-13 20:39:24
October 13 2008 20:38 GMT
#34
Eh.. D+ in a year isn't bad at all. I know I hit D+ in like a week or two, but I had been playing 10 years on and off prior to that. What's sad on my part is I learned more in a few months of playing Iccup than I did in 10 years. I know the bulk of my playing occurred years ago, so when I came back everyone was way better and it took a bit to get used to. Getting used to that from the get go probably isn't easy, so you should be proud of how far you've come. Just keeping working and you'll keep getting better.
Loveletter
Profile Joined November 2006
United States543 Posts
October 13 2008 21:30 GMT
#35
I just started playing 1;1 maybe a year ago but mass played but wasnt really learning much. then took a break then came back learned the game a bit and meh i dunno everytime i come back I get better for some reason. Im around like C-/C level as of now but I dunno
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WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
October 13 2008 21:41 GMT
#36
D+ in a year is quite allright, though it depends how much you play, i remember playing not too actively my first year and i had trouble getting D+ on pgt, and pgt had a lot lower skill level than iccup has now, so it looks like you're advancing quite right
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ScarFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1175 Posts
October 13 2008 22:28 GMT
#37
Sigh...I wish I could reach D+ or even D, but zvt is so bloody hard.
Can you dig it?
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
October 13 2008 23:10 GMT
#38
ive been playing for years and im only D+ so meh.
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
October 14 2008 03:51 GMT
#39
On October 14 2008 05:17 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2008 02:33 randomKo_Orean wrote:
On October 13 2008 21:51 Boblion wrote:
D+ is already a good achievement. It means that you understand how the game works and that you know basic Bos, micro tricks and hotkeys .

Someone who is D+ would have been a good player in 2000-2002
Just mass play with friends or in ladder and try to find a mentor who is better than you then you will get better for sure.

I don't really think there is a skill "wall" before C+ level. If you practise you will get better.

That's bullcrap.

maybe C


Duh ?
You really underestimate D+ players or you don't play ICCUP.
A D+ player can beat 2 really bad D- players
Even Jaedong cant beat 2 D+ players because even if D+ players usually don't have a good macro or micro , they understand the basics.

If you don't agree go bet games.

You won't see D+ protoss players going forge-gate or one gate carriers ( like the really bad D- ). They will use 2gates / one gate tech / or fe builds for example in PvZ. Their army control and macro won't be perfect but they will use hotkeys. They also know the basics micro tricks ( reaver micro; maybe even muta micro for sure the execution will often be bad ) and the units counters.

But D+ is still quite a ways below C-...

I agree about the skill differential between D+ and D- (from what I've seen), but in truth, it plays out quite a bit differently, I think. D+ may understand all that, and try to incorporate that, but the execution will be off enough.
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cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
October 14 2008 04:10 GMT
#40
I've been playing for ten years and I'm D
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