• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 05:31
CET 11:31
KST 19:31
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners10Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!44$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win10
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon! RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Where's CardinalAllin/Jukado the mapmaker? [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals [BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Learning my new SC2 hotkey…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1250 users

How Long Did It Take? - Page 4

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 10 11 12 Next All
.gypsy
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada689 Posts
October 14 2008 18:03 GMT
#61
On October 15 2008 02:52 Shadowfury333 wrote:
I feel kind of bad because I am living proof that APM means little. By BWChart, my APM averages around 175, but yet I'm still at D-. I'm sure it is lack of game knowledge, solved by experience, but it is still annoying.


Hehe dont worry man. I average 300+ apm and am only C~C+ (although that might be quite quite quite modest of me hehe ) But thats just how some people play I mean im used to going fast even if it is spam, cant help it, however I am playing harder and harder and most of it is becoming more and more useful =]
https://www.twitch.tv/gypsy93
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
November 14 2009 13:55 GMT
#62
On October 13 2008 22:35 Kolll wrote:
it's very bad. for example me.. i play sc for 5months and reached in my first season iccup b- and im c+ right now so it's gotta be pretty bad to be at d+ lvl after 1year


omg

pumping that old topic.. just because..

I find this so funny/amazing..

Especially take a look at the other guys reactions..

:D
hatred outlives the hateful
kulik-
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Czech Republic305 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-14 14:02:44
November 14 2009 14:02 GMT
#63
koll registered to TL in June 2k8 srsl he play just a year?
Terrible OP. Improve your posting or next one is a perma-ban.
JoMal
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Trinidad/Tobago1177 Posts
November 14 2009 14:09 GMT
#64
On November 14 2009 22:55 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2008 22:35 Kolll wrote:
it's very bad. for example me.. i play sc for 5months and reached in my first season iccup b- and im c+ right now so it's gotta be pretty bad to be at d+ lvl after 1year


omg

pumping that old topic.. just because..

I find this so funny/amazing..

Especially take a look at the other guys reactions..

:D


this
Oh you mad cause i'm stylin on you
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
November 14 2009 14:15 GMT
#65
lol. got me laughing. I wonder what those people who reacted to kolll have to say now.
Woo Jung Ho
520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
November 14 2009 14:28 GMT
#66
On November 14 2009 23:15 iLoveKT wrote:
lol. got me laughing. I wonder what those people who reacted to kolll have to say now.

Most of them are banned. Goes to see where they went on with their TeamLiquid posting history, right? :p
Writer
wok
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States504 Posts
November 14 2009 14:39 GMT
#67
Wait, is Koll really that talented?!?!?! Wow! I've been playing for 7 months and I'm still D/D+. And I play a lot.
I'll race you to defeatism... you win.
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
November 14 2009 14:55 GMT
#68
Seems like people don't understand that there are A LOT of different variables when it comes to stuff like this. He was like what, 14 years old? when i was 14 years old i had all the time in the world. I have been playing starcraft on and off for 10 years with an average of 2-3 games per day during the time when i was active and at best i'm around D+ with ~2500points. It all depends on how much effort you put into it, not your total time played.

All you kolll fanboys make it sound like he's some kind of SC prodigy, he probably spent every hour awake playing starcraft, if you're serious about something and spend a lot of time really wanting to learn from your mistakes, eventually you'll get better.

On November 14 2009 23:02 kulik- wrote:
koll registered to TL in June 2k8 srsl he play just a year?


It is possible to play SC without being a member of TL.
We make signature, then defense it.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 14 2009 15:06 GMT
#69
And now he's a serious contender to win 10k in the TSL?
Sup?
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
November 14 2009 15:19 GMT
#70
On November 15 2009 00:06 Plexa wrote:
And now he's a serious contender to win 10k in the TSL?
Sup?



hoping for ESPORTS drama here :D (already got a bit with the nongmin thing)
AdministratorI'm dancing in the moonlight
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
November 14 2009 15:36 GMT
#71
Even if he is 14 yo and has all the time in the world to practice ... it's still pretty impressive how far he has come. It's not like any 14 yo with all the time in the world can do what he did. But yeah, I bet he has to use most if not all of his free time to play SC.
QuakerOats
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1024 Posts
November 14 2009 15:46 GMT
#72
Yeah but it's obvious why people did not believe him. There's no way a college student or person with a full-time job could play enough SC to reach B- in 5 months.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
November 14 2009 15:47 GMT
#73
KOLL #1 FAN HERE!

GO GERMAN ZERGS!

KOLL FOR TSL2 WINNAR!
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
November 14 2009 16:07 GMT
#74
Anyone could get that good in half a year if they just learned to practice properly. He played straight up every game, played 1k games a season on iccup and never raged. Of course you're going to get really good really fast training like that. Everyone else just wastes their time
My. Copy. Is. Here.
anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
November 14 2009 16:13 GMT
#75
haha, the reactions to Kolll are amazing
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
November 14 2009 16:14 GMT
#76
Reached D+ in a week, does this make me some kind of genius?
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-14 16:33:04
November 14 2009 16:32 GMT
#77
Never heard of Kolll before or after his post in this thread. I assume I have to remember him now.
I have the best fucking lawyers in the country including the man they call the Malmis.
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
November 14 2009 16:38 GMT
#78
depends alot on your race

I could easily reach C with protoss in a couple of months. I'm C-/C terran after playing for years. I never really tried to get good for a long period of time though
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
November 14 2009 16:42 GMT
#79
On November 14 2009 22:55 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2008 22:35 Kolll wrote:
it's very bad. for example me.. i play sc for 5months and reached in my first season iccup b- and im c+ right now so it's gotta be pretty bad to be at d+ lvl after 1year


omg

pumping that old topic.. just because..

I find this so funny/amazing..

Especially take a look at the other guys reactions..

:D


haha nice find, the reactions and the once unbanned posts are hilarious.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
Godimus
Profile Joined July 2009
United States126 Posts
November 14 2009 16:49 GMT
#80
damn those guys are mean to koll lmao
im from the streets bitch
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 10 11 12 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10:00
Weekly #112
CranKy Ducklings70
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 305
BRAT_OK 111
MindelVK 19
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 3895
firebathero 3464
Larva 590
actioN 504
Pusan 344
Hyun 193
Barracks 175
hero 174
Soma 169
Sharp 146
[ Show more ]
PianO 105
Last 102
Backho 59
Mind 46
ToSsGirL 35
Terrorterran 22
NaDa 18
scan(afreeca) 12
Noble 11
HiyA 6
Dota 2
Gorgc6096
singsing406
League of Legends
JimRising 941
Counter-Strike
fl0m2470
Stewie2K838
zeus366
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor163
Other Games
summit1g17287
XaKoH 143
goatrope42
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL103
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 9
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH194
• LUISG 25
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1796
• WagamamaTV276
• lizZardDota258
League of Legends
• Jankos3416
• Lourlo1487
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Korean Royale
1h 29m
LAN Event
4h 29m
ByuN vs Zoun
TBD vs TriGGeR
Clem vs TBD
IPSL
7h 29m
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
BSL 21
9h 29m
spx vs rasowy
HBO vs KameZerg
Cross vs Razz
dxtr13 vs ZZZero
Replay Cast
22h 29m
Wardi Open
1d 1h
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
BSL 21
6 days
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Reynor vs sOs
Maru vs Ryung
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.