EPTloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
that's the only response this thread deserved.
Protoss imbalance has gone TOO FAR. - Page 7
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool that's the only response this thread deserved. | ||
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Tadzio
3340 Posts
On August 23 2008 05:11 Ancestral wrote:No one else, including Zerg players, thinks ZvP is as hard as you do. I know this isn't about me, but I'm 9-27 in ZvP on ICCUP this season (with more than 1 loss to D- protoss with sub-80 apm) and I'm approaching D+ despite such horrible ZvP performance, so I'm at least one zerg thinks the MU is pretty much impossible. 'Course, I suck. So that explains that.  | ||
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alpskomleko
Slovenia950 Posts
On August 23 2008 05:17 Gaetele wrote: I can hit 1a2a3a too but I decide not to That's that, then. Can't win by defending. /thread | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On August 23 2008 04:16 nemY wrote: Wait Why are you playing D- protoss players on iccup if you're a C rank Zerg user? Now that just don't make no sense! Its combat-ex off racing. | ||
Chill
Calgary25998 Posts
looked like a potential to finally get the PvZ stigmas out in the open. Here we're now standing together, at the apex of this glorious thread. And some of you are left wondering "How could Teamliquid close my thread but this garbage is still open?." Well, the truth is Protoss is an easy race. For example, Kingdom, is a garbage Protoss who got to the top with simple things a monkey could do. I have let fly with the painful arrows of truth. If you can hit 1a2a3a4a5a6a you can play Protoss, but that was inevitably going to come out. But it feels good, to be done with this thread, and we reach the end; finally, you will be turned onto what thine eyes hath missed. Open this thread in Mozilla Firefox, and there before you, at the first of every new line, shall appear a glorious mesasge. | ||
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Gaetele
Esper760 Posts
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Chill
Calgary25998 Posts
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Chef
10810 Posts
What it comes down to, if you feel like you're getting overwhelmed as a Zerg, your macro isn't up to par. Lots of Zergs get too comfortable knowing they can hatch 3 larvae at a time with no repercussions, but the fact is there are repercussions, because the longer you take to make those drones, the longer they aren't mining. Zergs also don't have the benefit of pretending the can just follow a staple army they see in progames... You have to constantly be building the right units for the right counters, and be flanking properly or else your numbers advantage becomes meaningless. EDIT: Oh, I guess this thread was declared dead while I was making my post.. | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
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hasuprotoss
United States4664 Posts
On August 23 2008 05:17 Gaetele wrote: I think you guys have lost the point of this thread - the balance. The point of conversation has been pulled far too thin among all the flame wars, especially to me. I don't know what you posters are getting up to, but I will stand firm on my stance. Protoss imba, nerf plz. To many others, it may seem like I'm trolling, but I assure you, I'm dead serious. This stupid race is the one thing that has gotten me truly angry about this game. I have played your pubs. I have played in house games as well, clan wars etc. I'm not horrible, but you guys think I am without warrant. About 80% of you think I'm totally retarded, and all I have to say is **** you. Go run around with your seven million HP Zealots or whatever because you're all stupid Protoss scum. You're probably gaming or masturbating while posting because your race is just that damn easy. "Durf hurr, build the Pylon at 8, make Gateway, win hurf durr." Good job. You hit one of the 5 buttons on the keyboard that aren't 'a' and you must feel so accomplished about yourself. I don't see how some of you people are so blind. Maybe you're just fine with not having any skill. You're yelled at by your parents and friends and you don't care because you like how easy you have it. Have to have it the easy way, don't you? I can hit 1a2a3a too but I decide not to because I want a challenge. The upbringing you must have had is great too. Probably rich and spoiled just like the Protoss are. Cabbie to drive you home and back from school or whatever, nose turned up in the air. People scream "Yo! You dropped your watch!" but it's ok, you can just buy a new one. Home's probably a great place too. You don't have any chores or anything - your maid's got that. If the smell in your house isn't perfect then you can just find a new one, right? You Protoss players and blind non-Protoss players are retarded and disgust me. When SC2 comes later and you all lose like I do, you'll come whining to me and I'll just flip you off. What does that post have to do anything about balance? You are without a doubt one of the biggest trolls I've ever seen. I probably shouldn't even post this reply, you'll just use it to troll me. However, I'm done with this thread after this post, even though I assume this thread is nearing its end. Anyways, you deny us a replay at your play, but apparently you are good enough to not need help, since you a godly clanwar player. Realistically, you can still improve yourself. No need to change balance of the game when you can learn your shortcomings, and (more than likely) the improvements can help your game in the other two matchups! Wow, we are improving three-fold by improving our worst matchup. If you are truly serious about "balancing" PvZ, than try to actually see how you lose games. If it's truly that your 20000 scourge die to 8 corsairs, than spread your scourge out. You say that you don't want to just 1a2a3a, but it appears that's what you are doing to allow the Protoss to use their "uber-leet AoE attacks" to decimate your armies. You do realize that flanking is a key property for Zergs to use in PvZ? Who knows, maybe you are trying to stop their tech the wrong way. Just post a replay in the strategy forum and maybe somebody will help you. Then you will be a better player instead of a bitchy player. Trust me, the first may be harder to achieve, but everyone despises bitchy players and you will actually have a personal sense of worth for achieving a winning record against Protoss players. Of course, all of this is probably lost on you and your wants to start a flame war so you can troll. I hope that you are being genuine in your want to actually hold an edge on Protoss players; however, I believe you are flawed in your way of trying to accomplish this edge. You want units removed; the general consensus is that you should attempt to improve through strategy and asking for help. | ||
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Purind
Canada3562 Posts
Have you ever considered that maybe... JUST MAYBE, that your ZvP is very weak? Everyone has their weaknesses. We have tons and tons of people - D players, D off racers, C off racers - alike say that they don't lose ZvP to D- players, yet you insist that just because you lose to them its imbalance. Hey I'm 70% at PvZ and 40% at PvT, PvT must be impossibly imbalance towards T's favour because my record says so | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.frostfox.com/blogpics/freshprince.jpg) loltrolled | ||
intrigue
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
well done sirs | ||
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Kletus
Canada580 Posts
On August 23 2008 05:38 DoctorHelvetica wrote: loltrolled ITS LIKE IM REALLY A NEWFAG IN 4CHAN /v/!!! | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
OMG REALLY?!?!?! | ||
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KlaCkoN
Sweden1661 Posts
But I have never understood this talk about toss beeing so easy, I mean I am a C zerg and my zvp style is like... spend 100 apm macroing, spend the rest (30) attack moving. Once you start attack moving ultraling armies = win. Ez? On a more serious note, I think most people have good and bad matchups, has nothing to do with imbalance. I am way better zvp than zvt, you are way better zvt than zvp, everybody is different ~~ | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On August 23 2008 05:42 KlaCkoN wrote: Hahaha @ OP Your funny But I have never understood this talk about toss beeing so easy, I mean I am a C zerg and my zvp style is like... spend 100 apm macroing, spend the rest (30) attack moving. Once you start attack moving ultraling armies = win. Ez? On a more serious note, I think most people have good and bad matchups, has nothing to do with imbalance. I am way better zvp than zvt, you are way better zvt than zvp, everybody is different ~~ lol | ||
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Chill
Calgary25998 Posts
Open this thread in Mozilla Firefox, and there before you, at the first of every new line, shall appear a glorious mesasge. | ||
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On August 23 2008 05:44 Chill wrote: Opera is fine too. | ||
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