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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
August 07 2008 11:00 GMT
#41
Wait...so the Zerg min hack detector alerts you if a zerg cancels a larva? It's that simple? That doesnt sound right...right?
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17734 Posts
August 07 2008 11:21 GMT
#42
On August 07 2008 12:57 funkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2008 12:52 il0seonpurpose wrote:
Nice, thanks. But does it have a chance of viruses? I think I got some from chaos


I remember reading (somewhere in TL.net) that Chaos was detected as a virus by the antivirus, because of the way it works (autoupdater and replacing files etc).

But it really isn't. Don't believe me much though. I might be wrong~~;

moc said that and i trust him
ils
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MasterOfChaos
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Germany2896 Posts
August 07 2008 13:37 GMT
#43
I finished converting it to a bwl plugin(Version 0.1).
Improved the multicommand detection. It should show fewer false positives.
Banlist is not that easy because of spoofers. Afaik there is no way to find the real acc for a player who is in your game. But detecting that he is spoofing should definatly be possible using the whois command. Also shared banlists are problematic because you cannot trust the reports.
On August 07 2008 20:00 PH wrote:
Wait...so the Zerg min hack detector alerts you if a zerg cancels a larva? It's that simple? That doesnt sound right...right?

The CancelTrain command not the CancelMorph command. This command is used to cancel units from a queue of a Terran/Protoss production. Sending it to a zerg larva/egg can be used to get minerals.
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Dakota_Fanning *
Profile Joined January 2008
Hungary2366 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-07 13:43:48
August 07 2008 13:42 GMT
#44
Can u incorporate a very simple spoof checking and warning?
To execute a /whois or /whereis command to all the players, and if it results in a different game name (or tells the player name is invalid or he is offline) than our own player's, then it's a spoof.
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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5532 Posts
August 07 2008 17:19 GMT
#45
The way blacklist works is that it stores the IP address of every player youve been in a lobby with. Then when you ban /bladd them it ip bans them from your games. Pretty foolproof of spoofers afaik, unless they wanna reset their modem or something.
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Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
August 07 2008 17:54 GMT
#46
On August 08 2008 02:19 jimminy_kriket wrote:
The way blacklist works is that it stores the IP address of every player youve been in a lobby with. Then when you ban /bladd them it ip bans them from your games. Pretty foolproof of spoofers afaik, unless they wanna reset their modem or something.


omg i need this BADLY D:
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memmypoker
Profile Joined May 2008
119 Posts
August 07 2008 18:54 GMT
#47
does this actually work? whos tried this?
Rotodyne
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2263 Posts
August 07 2008 18:55 GMT
#48
On August 08 2008 03:54 memmypoker wrote:
does this actually work? whos tried this?

If Masterofchaos made it ... it works
I can only play starcraft when I am shit canned. IPXZERG is a god.
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6641 Posts
August 07 2008 19:16 GMT
#49
Nice work MasterOfChaos, you've created some absolutely awesome stuff for this game ^^
Christ I didn't even know there was a Nuke Anywhere hack, that's ridiculous
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
August 07 2008 20:17 GMT
#50
On August 07 2008 22:37 MasterOfChaos wrote:
I finished converting it to a bwl plugin(Version 0.1).
Improved the multicommand detection. It should show fewer false positives.
Banlist is not that easy because of spoofers. Afaik there is no way to find the real acc for a player who is in your game. But detecting that he is spoofing should definatly be possible using the whois command. Also shared banlists are problematic because you cannot trust the reports.
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2008 20:00 PH wrote:
Wait...so the Zerg min hack detector alerts you if a zerg cancels a larva? It's that simple? That doesnt sound right...right?

The CancelTrain command not the CancelMorph command. This command is used to cancel units from a queue of a Terran/Protoss production. Sending it to a zerg larva/egg can be used to get minerals.

Oh, I see.

Thanks for putting this together, man. As soon as the plugin version comes out, I'll be all over it. (:
Hello
MasterOfChaos
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Germany2896 Posts
August 07 2008 21:40 GMT
#51
Updated to 0.1b fixing a bug which showed an integer overflow message on startup.

@PH it is already a plugin

On August 08 2008 03:54 memmypoker wrote:
does this actually work? whos tried this?

It works on my comp. But I haven't tested very many hackreplays and on no other computers, so it might still have bugs.
LiquipediaOne eye to kill. Two eyes to live.
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
August 07 2008 21:44 GMT
#52
is there a way to disable a certain hack detector? I'm probably just nitpicking, but the ADVloader plugins already have a zerg mineral hack detector, and it might be kinda redudant to have two on at the same time. Anyways, great work on this, I'm gonna go play some pub bgh and fastest games to try these out
blabberrrrr
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-07 23:26:38
August 07 2008 21:46 GMT
#53
MasterOfChaos just wondering, my ADV plugin only works about 1 in every 10 times i use chaos, the other times it simply doesn't load, same for my friend. Any reason you can think of that this might happen?

EDIT: I moved them from the plugins folder to the launcher folder and it seems to be working better now.
EDIT2: Actually not, seems to be just random again.
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ulszz
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Jamaica1787 Posts
August 07 2008 22:38 GMT
#54
you're so awesome. it is my goal one day to be able to program as well as you.
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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
August 07 2008 23:07 GMT
#55
Give the man some donations.

Thank you MOC. Very much.
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meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-08 01:03:50
August 08 2008 01:03 GMT
#56
On August 08 2008 02:54 Equinox_kr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2008 02:19 jimminy_kriket wrote:
The way blacklist works is that it stores the IP address of every player youve been in a lobby with. Then when you ban /bladd them it ip bans them from your games. Pretty foolproof of spoofers afaik, unless they wanna reset their modem or something.


omg i need this BADLY D:


There is one available already, and it is quite good even, problem is that it also bans ppl from rooms where you are not host, including the real hosts of said rooms. This might be fun for you personally (I know I lold a few times) but it sort of does not work in the long run.

MasterofChaos, is it possible for you to implement some sort of spoof protection then? Even basic one like against colour spoofers. I even saw a couple on iccup yesterday, haha. . .
An ugly planet. A bug planet.
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
August 08 2008 01:16 GMT
#57
This is giving alot of false positives on multi command. It's called me a multicommander in atleast 4 games today =[
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blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
August 08 2008 02:26 GMT
#58
just played a 2v2 fastest, where all 3 other players hacked. I killed one on my opponents, they convinced me to backstab my hacking partner, then resumed finishing off the last opponent. So the only "non-hacker" wins the game. Hack detector seems to work quite well.
blabberrrrr
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
August 08 2008 02:37 GMT
#59
Nice work - Thank you so much.

I think that the ipban list would be a little heavyhanded, seeing that most people don't tend to have static ip's (mine changes every 24 hours on command from the isp). having something to automatically check /whois might work well though. Just my $0.02
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tehAscender
Profile Joined April 2007
94 Posts
August 08 2008 12:38 GMT
#60
On August 06 2008 17:49 vnlegend wrote:
What bnet players really need is a a hack detector + dropper. So what if you're alerted the other guy mineral hacks or nukes anywhere. What can you do about it? Nothing... And it's not like the hacker even cares that you know. They don't care, in fact they will accuse you of hacking because you detected their hack. The hacker is proud of his hacks while the non-hacker is angry at the relation to them. On top of this, the hacker can easily spoof his name.

I don't even bother with detectors because it only annoys you. It notifies you that the other person hacks, but you can't do anything about it anyway.

Nope, wrong go die.

Thats like saying, the counter to hacking, is more hacking. Better hacking. Faster hacking. Smarter hacking. Drop hack them before they drop hack you.

The true counter to hacking is knowledge.
If you require a drophack, you're just `another hacker`.

The consequence for hacking is the majority of these players will never truly develop their potential in the game. They sacrifice long-term skill development, for a short-run kick. Their consequence is never having a clear conscience. Their consequence is a subconscious concept that they are a sub-par player.

Better off not knowing and suspect something and check the replay later, meanwhile you can play more games and enjoy the game. There are almost no consequences for hacking, and there should be. Which is why I miss the KM9v104 program.

`Ignorance is bliss bitch.`

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