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ForAdun
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany986 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-05 21:51:33
July 05 2008 21:49 GMT
#21
Frustration never goes away. If you want something and you don't get it it's frustrating. And if you work hard for it and you still don't get it it's even more frustrating. It's part of all competition anywhere in the world.

There is no solution but there are a few short-term solutions. Do sports, punch a pillow, things like that. The frustration will stay overall but it won't hammer in your head so much anymore.
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
July 05 2008 21:51 GMT
#22
I dont know, when I was massing games on ICCup I knew I was going to lose, so therefore I didn't get mad when I lost. Just take it easy and think, well if you're losing then thats the sign that youre playing the right people. Also just play the game and try to do better. Winning is a result of progress, and losing is the beginning.
Steelflight-Rx
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1389 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-05 21:59:34
July 05 2008 21:58 GMT
#23
If you expect to lose then you won't be so upset when you do lose. Its when you expect to win that falling is the hardest. Lower your expectations and you should feel a lot better.

Edit: unless you play protoss. If you play protoss consider your defeat a glorious martyrdom for the sake of the khala, and know that you and the souls of your warriors will be rememberd forever in the templar archives.
yubee wrote: you know? it's a great night you should all smile no matter what harddships, because grass grows and the sky is blue and it's a good life.
WindCalibur
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada938 Posts
July 05 2008 22:03 GMT
#24
search for a friend around ur skill level, best if lower
get him to play you
improve while stomping him a lot
.....PROFIT
404.Nintu
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1723 Posts
July 05 2008 22:16 GMT
#25
The most important quality you can have to improve is humility. You _NEED_ the humility and self-awareness to accept criticism and find your flaws. A lot of guys are ruled by pride and they don't deal well with accepting defeat after defeat.

When someone tells you what you did wrong, your natural response will be to justify your action, or make excuses. It takes a lot of self-awareness to recognize this and reverse your thinking.

You're entering a world where thousands of people are going to be better than you. NEVER record dodge on Iccup. Everytime I see a high rank join my game, I get excited. Losing to a B is worth a hundred wins vs D or C. Ask them for advice. Read the strategy forum. Watch replays. Watch Pro-FPVODS.

But most of all, think when you play. Think hard.

When you get into the downward spiral, when you lose and lose, and every loss makes you more upset, which makes you play worse, etc... Get up and splash some water in your face. Run up and down a flight of stairs or go outside for a few minutes. I remember chess grandmaster Josh Waitzkin said he would leave the chess board during big games and go run up a flight of stairs and splash water on his face. Something to do with body chemistry and activity sobers you from the frustration that is blinding you.

Sorta like being slapped in the face when you're hysterical. It sobers you.
"So, then did the American yum-yum clown monkey also represent the FCC?"
[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4650 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-06 00:04:21
July 05 2008 23:42 GMT
#26
I find that competition isn't for everyone. Losing is just another way of life that eventually people have to overcome in life. If you say you are successful at everything else you have done then losing shouldn't even be an issue.

I grew up losing sooooooo much from competitive Street Fighter (game) and sports team, that if I lose, I can just shrug it off. Lose, forget about it and move on. Take a break if you have to, especially those close games.

Also ICCUP competition is quite high compared to bnet. Think of it as the training grounds for semi-pro. At least know where you should start from and your starting position in the hierarchy. In basketball, you wouldn't go out and play against college level players while you are still struggling just to get 2 pointers. Stick with bnet.
[X]Domain - I just do the website. Nothing more.
FirstProbe
Profile Joined June 2004
1206 Posts
July 06 2008 00:08 GMT
#27
There are far more important things to get emotional about.

When you realise that, you won't care.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-06 00:09:56
July 06 2008 00:09 GMT
#28
just ask firstprobe about some of my frustrations ;;
oh hey he posted above me o.O
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yoshtodd
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States418 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-06 00:37:20
July 06 2008 00:31 GMT
#29
Get into the habit of watching every replay right after you finish a game. Name the weaknesses and errors you see in your game (don't just say "he made air and i had only zerglings", the error there was lack of scouting, not unit choice because you can't counter what you don't see). Try to make your goal learning and improvement, not winning. Winning will come by itself as you eliminate the weaknesses from your game one by one. I think the three biggest weaknesses for most beginners (I'm beginner so I'm speaking for myself too) are:

1. Macro. Did you spend your money, continually make units and workers, and take advantage of expanding? I think at low level, superb macro can make up for lack of micro skills, which you'll only gain after much play experience.

2. Map awareness. You absolutely must keep track of where your opponent is on the tech tree, where and how big his army is, and where his expansions are and how many. Every replay you watch of yourself, try and think, did I know all of the above things about my opponent?

3. Suicide attacking. I don't know if this applies to all beginners, but I find myself often just going blindly on the attack, without first spotting any reason to or weakness in my opponents defenses. Sacrificing all your units and inflicting no damage is a very quick and obvious way to lose. This doesn't mean you should be afraid to attack, but figure out by watching the guys who kill you when and why they attack, and what made their decision a good one.

Anyway by doing the above, it helps me deal with frustration because my goal is getting better (which I have control over), rather than winning all the time (in that case you're at the mercy of how good your opponent is). I still get frustrated after being owned, but using this mindset helps.
moo
iCCup.Trent
Profile Joined May 2005
Argentina450 Posts
July 06 2008 00:39 GMT
#30
teh_pwnerer dude I find your nick oddly familiar, where do you play? Does my nick ring a bell? I'm TrentLane on every bnet server.
man
Profile Joined November 2005
United States272 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-06 00:50:13
July 06 2008 00:48 GMT
#31
I think you are expecting too much of yourself if you expect to win a lot and are just starting competitive play. People have been playing this game for years, and therefore the skill level is extremely high. Look at your losses as an opportunity to improve, not as a failure. You should watch all the replays of the matches you lose to see what you did wrong, instead of just mindlessly playing match after match and making the same mistakes.

and also
On July 06 2008 09:08 FirstProbe wrote:
There are far more important things to get emotional about.

When you realise that, you won't care.

MuShu
Profile Joined March 2005
United States3223 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-06 00:52:30
July 06 2008 00:52 GMT
#32
On July 06 2008 09:39 TrentLane wrote:
teh_pwnerer dude I find your nick oddly familiar, where do you play? Does my nick ring a bell? I'm TrentLane on every bnet server.

It probably sounds familiar because of the Internet show PurePwnage. The main actor Jeremy's ID is teh_pwnerer.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
July 06 2008 00:57 GMT
#33
I just take a five minute break and drink some water
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
July 06 2008 01:24 GMT
#34
Games are meant to be fun. You say you are starting competitive SC?... what's competitive SC? iccup? Anyway that's not important...
1. Play for fun, not to improve. Improving should simply be a side effect of all the fun you are having.
2. Play with friends & shoot the shit while you all suck and improve together. Yell at eachother, laugh, whatever it is it's more fun in a group. Getting good takes time in any game for the vast majority of people. Most people plataeu at a relatively low place on the skill food chain anyway so just 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, ffa etc.. and have fun.
That's the best way for any player to get good and reduce frustration. You familiarize yourself with the game and your mind should simply adapt as everything improves.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
July 06 2008 01:31 GMT
#35
Learn to feel good about small improvements. This game is all about fixing things, and not making mistakes. No one is perfect. Always just try to get better, win or lose you can say "Hey I massed nicely," or "I had some nice micro." Only focus on the bad in replay form, and make yourself better.



Also, Smurf iccup.
Nak Allstar.
Louder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States2276 Posts
July 06 2008 02:07 GMT
#36
I personally study any loss that I find confusing. Like how the fuck did they get THAT MUCH more than me? Or why did he make X decision that raped me when as far as I know he didn't know what I was doing?

You'll learn a lot more studying your own losses than watching other reps, but it does help to watch pro gamer vods on matchups/maps where you have problems and try to understand how they make choices.
Skew
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1019 Posts
July 06 2008 02:19 GMT
#37
On July 06 2008 06:49 ForAdun wrote:
Frustration never goes away. If you want something and you don't get it it's frustrating. And if you work hard for it and you still don't get it it's even more frustrating. It's part of all competition anywhere in the world.


Just read that post and ignore the rest :>
lepape
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada557 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-06 02:53:37
July 06 2008 02:38 GMT
#38
You have to rationalise every loss, while keeping in mind you'll never improve if you get too emotional about it.

But still, getting beat by cheese can be really frustrating, especially when you know the player is worse than you.

On July 06 2008 07:16 Nintu wrote:
You're entering a world where thousands of people are going to be better than you. NEVER record dodge on Iccup. Everytime I see a high rank join my game, I get excited. Losing to a B is worth a hundred wins vs D or C. Ask them for advice. Read the strategy forum. Watch replays. Watch Pro-FPVODS.


If you're B- or C+, then you'll probably learn a lot from playing agaisnt a B player. However, a D player won't learn much from it, other than how huge the gap is between him and a B player.

I played people with 250-300 APM a few times and with hardcore, hardcore macro. I got crushed so badly it wasnt even funny, honestly afterwards there's not much I could learn out of it.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
July 06 2008 02:42 GMT
#39
Well, just take a break. Drink some cold water or some cool fluid. Play something else that lets you vent your anger. (I'm thinking GTA or God of War). Whenever I get frustrated, I take it out on Greek monsters as Kratos. IMO nothing is more satisfying after a loss than ripping through some inferior being with your blades on God of War.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
July 06 2008 04:05 GMT
#40
On July 06 2008 05:28 grobo wrote:
You just have to try and force that laid back "i don't give a fuck"-attitude, kind of the way you get after 1-2 beers, you just sit there and sort of laugh it off and try silly shit all the time.

ya, this is what i do. I just tell myself it doesnt matter.
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