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Anyone have any tips for a new player on not getting frustrated/mad when playing and losing a lot? Any inspirational words of advice to convince me to not give up?
I don't wanna go into too much detail, but suffice to say I have started competitive SC and I'm getting poor results and it's discouraging me from going on, even though I want to learn to play RTS games well. I've had success at most everything else I do/play, but this is different and it's really frustrating sometimes.
thx for any help
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uhm..After you lose a few games go stomp a computer or two
that helped me
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I'm only interested in the human-competition aspect of it. I feel like a loser if I have to go stomp computers to make myself feel better =/
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Well, even if I lose a game I'm usually satisfied even if I get some good moves in, and after every loss you've learned something more. Join some clan maybe and get some communityfeeling, if you join a sports club you're usually improving with others and that makes it feel easier, same with Broodwar for some I bet.
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I know exactly how you feel, lol. I'm right at the point where I get owned by regulars but own computers/noobs. I always feel like I'm being really outplayed by the other person or even if I win, I don't really feel any sense of accomplishment since it's always someone who just picked up the game.
Do you have any real life friends that play SC? I find that playing with friends is pretty fun even if you kill them just to hear the reactions, it really boosts your self-esteem since you are like a god to the average joe.
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CA10828 Posts
the level of a D rank iccup player is ridiculously high compared to the lowest rank players in other games. i would suggest playing on battlenet if you aren't already.
also, do you know what you're doing wrong? if you're losing a lot, what is the main cause? if you're a new player you should pinpoint one aspect of your game to work on and really really focus on that before moving onto other things to fix. i can say with around 90% confidence that many of your losses are due to sub-par macro. so make sure you're always making units.
good luck.
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Also if you're getting way too frustrated/mad, you wont be playing as well. So just play ums, or take a break for a couple of hours, and come back. You will probably play better than before, and feel better afterwards.
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watch your replays, see what you're doing wrong or what you could improve on, then focus on that for the next game.
browse through the strategy forum! look for build orders or situational advice that will help you tighten up your game. i think it helps to understand why you lost the way you lost, as opposed to just sitting there after a game with a blank look at the end screen, frustrated that the other player "figured you out".
just keep at it, you should notice at least a slight improvement with each game you play. once you lose about ten games in a row, then finally win one, it feels great. 
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If you're a highly competitive person, then not getting frustrated and/or angry when you lose a lot is impossible.
Instead of trying to stop it, learn how to deal with it when it happens. If you can, channel it back into your next game and kick some serious ass. However, if you're frustrated to the point where it's disruptiung your ability to play, then maybe it's time to think about getting up, getting off the computer and releasing that pent up frustration.
Go for a run. Shoot hoops. Go to the gym. Smash the fuck out of a punching bag (my personal favorite).
You need to release that built up tension and the best way to do that is to physically exert yourself.
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I dunno how to stop from gettin frustrated. When i get frustrated i just don't play anymore.
But i do know how you should improve if you are a new player, first you should work on macro, since thats where most new players have the most trouble. After that you work on micro and strategy more.
It doesn't matter how good a tactician you may be if you have no units
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Make yourself do pushups for every defeat. However many minutes long the game was, do that many pushups. This way, even if you lose, you will have the comfort of knowing that you are doing way more pushups than your opponent, and thus are defeating them in that respect.
Another thing: make sure to stay fed and hydrated when playing. When you're on a winning streak it can be easy to ignore being undernourished, but when you're losing and undernourished it can likewise be easy to sink into depression and frustration.
Get sunlight.
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You just have to try and force that laid back "i don't give a fuck"-attitude, kind of the way you get after 1-2 beers, you just sit there and sort of laugh it off and try silly shit all the time.
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You have to play ALOT, and you can't get pissed off when you lose, after you have lossed you have to rewatch the replay and look for better openings of when to attack/defend/expand.. do this for at least 2months and you'll defeat the average bnet noob , cheers
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On July 06 2008 05:32 ret wrote: grow up?
That, or keep playing until you win.
Really, I know you could have like a thousand different reasons to get mad because you lose. But Be aware that if you lose, is because you're doing something wrong. It's nobody's fault but yours, why would you get mad at yourself?, Focus that energy into practising more and watching replays to find your weaknesses.
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Korea (South)11586 Posts
On July 06 2008 05:06 Djabanete wrote: Make yourself do pushups for every defeat. However many minutes long the game was, do that many pushups. This way, even if you lose, you will have the comfort of knowing that you are doing way more pushups than your opponent, and thus are defeating them in that respect.
haha I actually really like that idea. But maybe multiply the number by 2. Because doing merely 20-30 pushups isn't that big of a deal, but if you're doing 40 or 60 pushups, then it starts getting crazy
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What I do is switch between ICCup and East, if I lose too much on iccup, i go play a bit on east where i know i have more chance of winning
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On July 06 2008 05:32 ret wrote: grow up? best advice; its a computer game..; fix ur priorities
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Just remember that you're playing to get better, not playing to win.
Once you've gotten better, then you can start playing to win.
Go into a game not expecting to win, but expecting to learn from it and discover new counters and tactics. Go into the game knowing that you may very well lose and it may very well be a crushing loss, but that any loss can be watched in the replay and prevented in the future.
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I think most of it has been said already, but i'll give it a shot...
I said this before to some kid who pretty much gave up every time he lost.
Winning isn't everything. In actuality, people at stages such as yourself who aren't either extreme pro-"gosu" but not a noob tend to learn a lot more from thier losses than thier victories. You may not feel it or comprehend how you are getting better from your losses, but with losses comes experience. Victory is a fine taste that everyone needs every now and then to keep them going, but defeat often leaves one in the same state of mind you are in now: frustration. You need to learn to channel that frustration into endurance and more even so determination to get better. Even if you have a terrible streak going on, such as 10 losses or even more without a single victory, you have to keep going on. Push yourself. Get over it and move on. There is no way to escape feelings of frustration or anger over defeat. It's quite normal. The thing is, then, is NOT to learn how NOT to get frustrated or angry, but how to tolerate it and learn to "fuel the fire" of your determination to get better. (I know that doesn't apply to everyone)
What im trying to say is that, a player at a normal caliber, such as you and myself ALWAYS get frustrated or even a bit angry over a loss or a defeat. I'd like to repeat by saying that you have to learn to channel that into determination and not tolerate giving up. It's pretty damn hard, yeah, but that is what makes chobos into gosus. In fact, suffice to say, even progamers get emotional after games. REALLY. You think every progamer made it to where they are without losses? Hell, some players suffered terrible losing streaks, but they aren't noobs. Sure, they get angry, even cry, as some of you know =), but most of them learn to either retire or get better. I hope you are not a coward and choose the former than the latter.
Lastly, do analyze your gameplay. Play people that you know. Find some friends online, or some people who'd be willing to analyze your reps with you. Don't be afraid of critical commetaries or rough insults of your gameplay: that is what makes you better. Sometimes, you have to face reality and face the facts that there is always going to be people better than you, even if that means just about 80-90% of the rest of world. Push yourself to reach that goal that you want. You will get better. It takes a whole lot of freaking time though, and especially for a intense game such as starcraft.
If you really can't take it anymore, and cannot channel that anger or frustration into determination, give up, or find something else to do. That means do something else BESIDES starcraft. Get off the computer and do something you are good at. Or just hang out with some friends. Or just enjoy life. Go on a vacation. You can fill in the blank here. Just do something else BESIDES starcraft.
Once you learn that you win some, and that you lose more than some, congratulations, you have found that little word that defines the universe: reality. It sucks ass, so once you have matured and can finally get over losing, toleration becomes under your control and you are no longer controlled by your emotions. But don't expect that soon. That takes expereince and time. And you learn that not through starcraft, but by your real life experiences. Once you have a family and all, a hard but rewarding annoying job, you'll know what I mean. =)
Encouragement you ask?
Never give up. Or just retire. But I hope you choose that for YOURSELF.
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