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I dont play iccup but if I did Im sure I would b- toss
anyone find this funny?
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clazziquai
6685 Posts
I dont play iccup but if I did Im sure I would b- toss anyone find this funny? | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
ok more like c+ I mostly play against the computer, but Im pretty confident since I almost never lose (like 20% of the time) | ||
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Wizard
Poland5055 Posts
On May 15 2008 11:38 fusionsdf wrote: well ok more like c+ I mostly play against the computer, but Im pretty confident since I almost never lose (like 20% of the time) is this serious? | ||
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clazziquai
6685 Posts
sarcasm probably | ||
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ahole-surprise
United States813 Posts
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
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Folca
2235 Posts
larva macro too h@rd | ||
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TeNken.1
United States226 Posts
On May 15 2008 10:47 Darkmole wrote: Hows Protoss 5/10? I feel that learning to play terran is twice as hard as learning to play as protoss. Hence 5/10. And for the record, I'm not bashing protoss, just giving an opinion based on personal experience. | ||
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Hypnosis
United States2061 Posts
but to choose one it has to be zerg for this simple reason: The army control is too critical for it to be an easier race. With Terran you can make a ball and attack. With toss you have to slightly flank and your fine. With zerg if you dont flank, OR your muta control sucks, you are fucked. If you dont do really good flanks you lose.... thats the bottom line because all three race's macro is about the same. | ||
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ChaosKnight
United States819 Posts
As for the whole "Protoss debate," here's how I see it. Protoss macro is similar to Terran macro, both of which are straight forward. However, Terran players need to have a shit load of micro, differentiating them from the other races. On the flip side, Protoss micro is similar to Zerg micro, both of which are not very demanding, with only one or two spell casters and not much besides that. However, Zerg macro is far more intense. In other words, Protoss players take the "easiest" half of both Terran and Zerg styles; in a sense, they have the best of both worlds. This is why they are the easiest--note that easiest does not mean they are an easy race to master by any means. It just simply takes far more effort to master a race such as Zerg or Terran, compared to that of Protoss. | ||
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mahnini
United States6862 Posts
On May 15 2008 12:46 Hypnosis wrote: Listen up newbs: all 3 are the hardest.. but to choose one it has to be zerg for this simple reason: The army control is too critical for it to be an easier race. With Terran you can make a ball and attack. With toss you have to slightly flank and your fine. With zerg if you dont flank, OR your muta control sucks, you are fucked. If you dont do really good flanks you lose.... thats the bottom line because all three race's macro is about the same. I lol'd | ||
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
Although you encounter some 45-1 B- terrans which are just fucking lame. | ||
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ChaosKnight
United States819 Posts
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
On May 15 2008 08:59 IzzyCraft wrote: This is how i like to think of toss players QQMOAR about shit being hard. SC is a hard game to play when the level increases don't play pvz agnist jaedong all day and say fucking pvz is imba impossible fucking hardest shit ever. People play to their strenghts PvZ not your strongest match up dont call it hard its just hard for you. Toss is unforgiving in macro games because it cost more for you to replace shit doesn't make it hard just means you need more macro and your not keeping up. "xyz" (4:56:49 PM): "whats that, you have basic macro skills? well fuck then welcome to team protoss." Moi (4:57:06 PM): pretty much "xyz" (4:57:18 PM): if i were a protoss player "xyz" (4:57:21 PM): i'd be in the Ro16 TSL "xyz" (4:57:22 PM): lol Give the SC game to anyone new tell us which race he will choose to play will it be toss??  inginging*Frankly i find it severely funny that i was being flame from my post being hard to understand when this one is so obvious a bash agnist toss and no one cared | ||
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
Also... with terran you can make a ball and attack? For all 3 matchups if you do that you're screwed. Lurkers will pwn u, toss flank will pwn u (u gotta micro those siege and vults wowww?) and enemy terran will also pwn u. | ||
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caigo
United States3 Posts
On May 15 2008 11:00 fusionsdf wrote: why do all the protoss users suffer from pms? Hmm, maybe all Protoss users "suffer from pms" because you are saying that: at any given level, a Protoss player is less skilled than a Zerg/Terran player. You are directly insulting all Protoss players, and you expect to not get flamed? On May 15 2008 10:44 TeNken.1 wrote: As said before, protoss units are more resilient (and there's less of them), so there is less overall multitasking required While it is true that a Protoss player generally has less units to manage, I believe they have to manage them more carefully than a Zerg/Terran player; because toss units are worth so much more, losing one can put you behind pretty far (Losing a zealot to a dumb mistake will have a much larger effect on a game than losing a zergling to a similar mistake). On May 15 2008 10:45 fusionsdf wrote: its not my fault tanks only do like 1/4 dmg to probes wtf is up with that? also protoss macro is just like 1z2z3d4d5h Terran macro is just like 1v2v3v4t5t I suck with Terran and Zerg (I suck at all races actually, >.> ), but I can still say that Protoss is not ezmode. Anyway... I voted Zerg because larva macro is serious business >.> | ||
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Darkmole
United States900 Posts
lol yea i find that funny cuz i remember beating him ^^ | ||
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Seraphim
United States4467 Posts
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ChaosKnight
United States819 Posts
On May 15 2008 13:14 Superiorwolf wrote: Also... with terran you can make a ball and attack? For all 3 matchups if you do that you're screwed. Lurkers will pwn u, toss flank will pwn u (u gotta micro those siege and vults wowww?) and enemy terran will also pwn u. Well, your Terran has it easy. Shadow rush = gg no re kthxbai. On May 15 2008 13:31 caigo wrote: Terran macro is just like 1v2v3v4t5t I suck with Terran and Zerg (I suck at all races actually, >.> ), but I can still say that Protoss is not ezmode. Let's not get stray from the actual discussion. The most proliferate argument is not that Protoss is an easy race, but rather, the easiest to master. Just because a race is easy to master doesn't mean that anyone can do it: it still takes ample skill and dedication. However, let's make a scenario: 3 new players start playing StarCraft, each playing a single race. All 3 players have the exact same skill throughout, and all of them play for the exact same amount of time. Similarly, they all progress in skill level at the same rate. No one player is stronger than the other (this is how a tier list works, such as in a fighting game). As skill and time increases, the Protoss player will get reasonably more powerful than the Terran and Zerg players, and chances are, this will stay the same for a while. As skill and time increase far more drastically, the Terran and Zerg players start to finally pull ahead. To put it simply, each race can always be improved upon. You can never perfect your style or skill at a race, as there is always an extra expansion you could make or dedicate more time to macro or micro, or perhaps, build up more APM. However, as players attempt to get closer to this "perfection," results tend to come much faster for Protosses when compared to Terrans or Zergs (however, in the long run, Protoss players tend to "max out" sooner). Protoss is typically the less demanding race as I noted in a previous post, and that is why I believe this to be true. Once again, no race is "easy to master." | ||
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masami.sc
United States445 Posts
Terran at a lower level is just frustrating to play. Cheese GALORE. I must get cheesed like 90% of the time. Whether its a zergling rush, dt drop, reaver, etc. I always seem to get cheesed EZ. And it blows. Getting cheesed too often raises my stress level. But anyway, terran at a higher level is quite rewarding, because that terran ball, oh boy. It's hard to stop. | ||
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