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nortydog
Australia3067 Posts
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Raelcun
United States3747 Posts
If you're talking about people who won't let you drop them then unplug your modem so you -can- drop them and save the replay and if its a ladder (icc) game you can report them. If you just mean people dropping at bad times thats not a drophack 90+ percent of the time. | ||
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nortydog
Australia3067 Posts
I ask because it's happening too often and if there is a solution I want to know about it | ||
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Raelcun
United States3747 Posts
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nortydog
Australia3067 Posts
thanks for your help | ||
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Purind
Canada3562 Posts
On May 14 2008 13:26 nortydog wrote: I'm talking about when a player drops without there even being a drop screen, I'm 90% sure that means hacks where involved, alot of the time they even say in advance that they are going to drop you and other times it's just too obvious I ask because it's happening too often and if there is a solution I want to know about it I'm 90% sure that your 90% wrong. I see people dropping without the drop screen all the time. It happens. It happens to me and I don't think I hack. It happens more often at the start of games. And if they just drop from the game, then what's the big deal? If it's public bnet, just shrug it off, it's another win. If it's ladder, save the rep and report them. | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17732 Posts
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
On May 14 2008 15:15 Ilikestarcraft wrote: Actually the only hack i hate is some kind of pause hack. Im playing 3v3 with my friends and we kill the 2 of the guys so only one guy is left. Than the drop screen appears goes to 0 and we cant drop him. That is a hack because after 10 mins the drop screen goes away suggesting that hes checking if we left or not and if we're still there he puts it back on. Ah yeah i think that an oblivan feature to keep the drop always at 0 something like that >-< such malicious hacks that have been made clearly jsut greef hacks | ||
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jngngshk321
Korea (South)457 Posts
I've played in a couple phantom games where the phantom who gets attacked drops the attackers to keep himself in the game. | ||
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MeriaDoKk
Chile1726 Posts
p.s: im really pissed of right now. this is a hack right? is it posible to ban this guy from iccup for this? edit: from time to time he takes out the drop screen and when he see that im actually in the game he puts it again ![[image loading]](http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q86/meriadok23/fuckingdrop.jpg) | ||
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ZhenMiChan
Netherlands1181 Posts
mabye its not drophack and ur connections just fock up? | ||
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Too_MuchZerg
Finland2818 Posts
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nortydog
Australia3067 Posts
On May 14 2008 14:23 Purind wrote: I'm 90% sure that your 90% wrong. I see people dropping without the drop screen all the time. It happens. It happens to me and I don't think I hack. It happens more often at the start of games. And if they just drop from the game, then what's the big deal? If it's public bnet, just shrug it off, it's another win. If it's ladder, save the rep and report them. I've been inactive for 1.5 years and never before seen anything like it, and, like I said before alot of these cocky bastards tell you in advance the second before they drop you, it's definantly not a coincidence. If you think I should just shrug it off then I'll put it this way, the last game this happened in was a 3v3 going on 50 mins with a massive struggle for mid, all six players were still in the game and one of my teammates just built up a big enough force of carriers to turn the tide but as soon as he brought them to mid and started wreaking havoc he was dropped, afterwards when I called hacks I was dropped and then I found out so was my other teammate, that's not even the most blatant of cases I've encountered.. maybe you like your time being wasted but I'd rather finish my games, hacker or no hacker present. All I was looking for was a solution but it seems there isn't one so this thread can be closed for all I care  | ||
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Schnake
Germany2819 Posts
On May 14 2008 16:19 MeriaDoKk wrote: hey im in iccup now playing this Rx.K , he makes 2 proxy gates in the middle of the map, i somehow win the game then he tels me "gg want re?" and i say no, then the drop screen apears and i cant drop him, im taking screenshots and making this post while the drop screen is on right now. p.s: im really pissed of right now. this is a hack right? is it posible to ban this guy from iccup for this? edit: from time to time he takes out the drop screen and when he see that im actually in the game he puts it again Do what Raelcun said. | ||
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alphablend
647 Posts
On May 14 2008 15:46 jngngshk321 wrote: I believe the op means the drop hack that can drop whoever you choose I've played in a couple phantom games where the phantom who gets attacked drops the attackers to keep himself in the game. I would like to point out that all of the major hack sites (zg and bwhacks and a few others) dont publicly condone making hacks that disrupt the flow of the game. They only support annoyance and advantage hacks, such as multicommand. So for example they dont support what I will later describe as a "Targeted drop hack" I would like to point out that there is a HUGE difference between a desynchronization hack and a hack that drops someone else. There are 4 ways to disconnect. 1) Pull the cable -- Physically pull the internet cable out and countdown 2) desync hack -- disconnects the player that is the one using the hack -- if 4 players are in the game the player hits a hotkey (usually delete) and the hack modifies a memory address (such as the mineral count) this immediately desyncs the client from the other players dropping them with out a countdown. This only disconnects 1 player and it is the player WITH the hack, giving them a disconnect. It is worth noting that sometimes the game gets desynced (especially at the beginning on bnet) sometimes even without hacks so this is not grounds for immediate accusation. Sometimes it happens to people using certain hacks because the insert key is right next to the delete key, the insert key is generally the key assigned to toggling the map hack. 3) Targeted drop hack -- This is the rarest type of hack, if there are 4 players and lets say player1 has the drop hack, he can send a signal to one of the other 3 players and disconnect them while the game will continue The hacks do exist but you have to get them in one of the following ways 1) Program them yourself 2) pay someone for a copy (usually $100-$200) 3) have a private friend that is willing to give you one 4) Delay hacks -- This type of hack is kind of common because it is a bit easier to program. There are quite a few ways to stop the game from progressing, one example given in this thread is where it flat out stops the countdown timer at 0 and you cant drop the person. There are a few other ways to achieve this. And some of the smarter hackers have programmed hacks that send you a prompt saying something like "Press CTRL+ALT+DEL to end StarCraft, and Error has occurred" you think it is legit so you do it. When you do this; they resume the game and get a win, the simple way to beat this is to simply leave your computer on and out wait them. Most Script Kiddies have about 10 minutes worth of patience. I know there are other ways to disconnect but these are the more common ones. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The biggest problem with people that play games is that almost everyone has some knowledge of how cheats work because they think that if they admit to any knowledge it makes them a cheater. I have no problem talking about exactly how everything works, and then saying even though I know how this works I don't use it because I want a fair fun game. Most people deny ANY knowledge of how this stuff works. Another thing worth pointing out in the UMS game mentioned in the original quote up top, it is more likely that there were triggers in the UMS map that allowed the phantom to drop specific players then the phantom having any real hacks himself. | ||
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alphablend
647 Posts
On May 15 2008 00:43 nortydog wrote: I've been inactive for 1.5 years and never before seen anything like it, and, like I said before alot of these cocky bastards tell you in advance the second before they drop you, it's definantly not a coincidence. If you think I should just shrug it off then I'll put it this way, the last game this happened in was a 3v3 going on 50 mins with a massive struggle for mid, all six players were still in the game and one of my teammates just built up a big enough force of carriers to turn the tide but as soon as he brought them to mid and started wreaking havoc he was dropped, afterwards when I called hacks I was dropped and then I found out so was my other teammate, that's not even the most blatant of cases I've encountered.. maybe you like your time being wasted but I'd rather finish my games, hacker or no hacker present. All I was looking for was a solution but it seems there isn't one so this thread can be closed for all I care There is no solution, because it is an arms race. Unless you are the one making the arms, or the defense you are powerless. The main goal is to get you upset, and then laugh about it (or get sexually aroused by it or whatever they get out of it). In this case they have clearly accomplished, if you show no reaction they get no satisfaction. I would like to take this time to point out that by my calculation 50%-80% of all players on Bnet us hacks. And the vast majority of them will deny it. So if you are playing in a pub (especially BGH or fastest) with 6 players, then there is a VERY HIGH probability there will be a hacker in the game. | ||
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Kaolla
China2999 Posts
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Raelcun
United States3747 Posts
On May 14 2008 16:19 MeriaDoKk wrote: hey im in iccup now playing this Rx.K , he makes 2 proxy gates in the middle of the map, i somehow win the game then he tels me "gg want re?" and i say no, then the drop screen apears and i cant drop him, im taking screenshots and making this post while the drop screen is on right now. p.s: im really pissed of right now. this is a hack right? is it posible to ban this guy from iccup for this? edit: from time to time he takes out the drop screen and when he see that im actually in the game he puts it again Do what I said at the top take a screenshot then pull your internet cable this will allow you to drop them and be able to save the replay. The reason why the replay is necessary is when they use this hack it causes a discrepancy(spelling?) between the game length reported by the server and the game length on the replay. | ||
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5HITCOMBO
Japan2239 Posts
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Hollow
Canada2180 Posts
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alphablend
647 Posts
On May 15 2008 03:22 Hollow wrote: alphablend drop hack can be found on google for free. nice effort though... Maybe it wasn't clear enough. I will try to clarify what I meant in my original post: These hacks can be found: 1) Pull the cable 2) desync hack 4) Delay hacks This hack cannot: 3) Targeted drop hack 3) Targeted drop hack -- This is the rarest type of hack, if there are 4 players and lets say player1 has the drop hack, he can send a signal to one of the other 3 players and disconnect them while the game will continue The hacks do exist but you have to get them in one of the following ways 1) Program them yourself 2) pay someone for a copy (usually $100-$200) 3) have a private friend that is willing to give you one I thought that was pretty clear, maybe Im wrong. By far the most popular hack used with 1.15.2 is Oblivion, I don't believe it has a targeted manual drop hack as a feature + Show Spoiler + Quick Reference of Hotkeys - In-Game F5 Toggle lag defender on/off. (Removes lag box screen) F6 Use zerg mineral exploit on selected larva, hydralisk or mutalisk. Ctrl + F6 Use zerg building recycle exploit on selected hatchery, lair, spire or creep colony. F7 Carry out last build command on selected worker. (Useful for stacking maps) F8 Add/Remove unit for auto queue. Ctrl + F8 Remove all units for auto queue. F9 Toggle global auto queue on/off. Ctrl + F9 Toggle subunit auto queue on/off. F11 Toggle elapsed timer mode forwards. Ctrl + F11 Toggle elapsed timer mode backwards. F12 Toggle five-state stat hack forwards. Ctrl + F12 Toggle five-state stat hack backwards. ~ / Alt Select all units of the same type that are currently selected. (Excludes workers) Ctrl + ~ / Alt Same as above but is used for workers and loaded transports/overlords. Ctrl + F Find and select idle worker. Ctrl + R Toggle auto repeat for any game action. (Move, upgrade, etc) Ctrl + H Command selected units to hold position. Numpad 0 Use the drone float exploit. (Continues as long as button is held) Delete Toggle in-game message log. Pause Pause/Resume game. Insert Toggle three-state maphack forwards. Ctrl + Insert Toggle three-state maphack backwards. - Lobby Page Up / Down Download status spoofer. (Increase / Decrease) Quick Reference of Commands - In-Game /list Show a list of players in the game with player id and race. /xlist Show players who have used zerg mineral hack, nuke anywhere and/or rally point hack. /kill Kill selected workers. /load Load selected units into transports/overlords. /rally Restore all rally points to default. /mining Display how much workers you have mining minerals. - In-Game + Lobby /mh [num] Set maphack state. (1=off, 2=lite, 3=full) /sh Toggle selection hack on/off. /builda Toggle build anywhere on/off. /warning Toggle warning messages on/off. /apm Toggle on-screen apm counter on/off. /tclicks Toggle maphack target clicks on/off. /frepeat Toggle faster repeat on/off. (Used with Ctrl+R to speed it up) /automine Toggle worker auto mine on/off. /unitalert Toggle unit alert on/off. /nukealert Toggle nuclear missile alert on/off. /dropalert Toggle dropship alert on/off. /autounally Toggle auto unally on/off. /actlog Toggle in-game action logger on/off. - Channel /spoof [name] Spoof a custom name. (Supports color) /spoof [num] Spoof a saved name. (1 to 5) /sn [num] Save current spoof name. (1 to 5) /dn [num] Delete spoof name from list. (1 to 5) /ln List saved spoof names. /rn Restore spoofed name to original name. /cn Display current spoofed name. /ar Toggle auto respoof on/off. (Default on) /home Join home channel. (Set home channel in Oblivion.ini) /uptime Display current system and Oblivion uptime. - Global /r [msg] Reply back to the last person who messaged you. /wb [msg] Whisper back to the last person that you messaged. Other Features Start a game without any opponents. Stay in game even after being defeated. Auto refresher for hosted game. (game is refreshed every 5 seconds) Slot unlocker for lobby. (Remove computer player(s) and go them yourself) In-game system and elapsed timers. Show map download status at all times. Save screenshots as bitmap's rather than PCX. Build anywhere on any terrain for stacking UMS maps. Selection hack with mass select hotkey. Maphack with safe clicks and state hack. Nuclear missile alert with map ping on nuke attempt. (Not launch) Dropship alert on unload with map ping. Ally alert with auto unally/unvision. Configurable unit alert. (only alerts on enemy units) Zerg mineral hack with auto cancel, crash protection and user detection. (Alerts once) Nuke anywhere hack detection with auto-drop. (Alerts once) Rally point changer hack detection with auto-drop. (Alerts once) Carrier/Reaver subunit crash protection with detection. Channel, lobby and in-game chat logger. Automatically re-queue units. (Auto queue) Automatically create a worker on map begin. Automatically mine minerals on map begin. Automatically mine minerals on unit create. Automatically gain lobby ops. (Host hack) Alliance menu player names are in ally status color. Lag screen box timer always set to 1 second. (safe quick drop) On-screen worker idle detection. Show enemy minimap pings. Minimap pings are in player color. (Yellow is unknown/default) Player colored minimap pings. Name spoofer with temp ip ban protection. Auto join home channel on battle.net login. Warning messages are disabled. (Unit unplaceable messages) Anti-hack fix for various maps that caused you to drop. (Thanks to kc) Bypass anti-hack protection when connecting to battle.net. Name Spoofer Codes \B Blue. \G Green. \L Light Green. \D Dark Grey. (Later text cannot be changed) \W White. \R Red. \I Invisible/Black. \T Tab. \C Center justify. \V Right justify. Version 3.0.7 - Added quick reply/whisper back commands. (/r and /wb) - Added auto repeat for any game action and command to speed it up. (Ctrl + R) - Added carry out last build command on selected worker. - Added carrier/reaver subunit crash protection and detection. - Added on-screen actions per minute counter. - Changed stat hack average minerals/gas from per second to per minute. - Changed game refresher to auto and removed hotkey. - Changed hold command to a hotkey. (Ctrl + H) - Removed don't unselect units when vision is lost to fix a crash bug. - Fixed maphack safe clicks so other visible selections are recorded into replays. - Fixed a bug with auto name spoof. (v3.0.5+) - Fixed a bug with bmp screenshots. (v3.0.5+) - Fixed a bug with in-game clock am/pm display. - In-Game clock and timer will always be shown. - In-Game timer will stop when game is paused or lagging. Version 3.0.7b - Added anti-hack fix for various maps that caused you to drop. (Thanks to kc) Version 3.0.7c - Added configuration option for anti-hack fix. - Fixed a bug with on-screen actions per minute counter. - Fixed several other minor bugs. By all means if you want to show me a public hack that has a targeted drop feature please do, because every time one becomes public a patch is released shortly after.[/spoiler] | ||
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alphablend
647 Posts
http://www.zerogamers.com/downloads/c32-Starcraft-Hacks/f1513-Private-SC/BW-DropHack.html didn't test it out though. | ||
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Hollow
Canada2180 Posts
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alphablend
647 Posts
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N.H
25 Posts
On May 14 2008 17:31 Too_MuchZerg wrote: Thats why I learned to say yes to regame... makes ending much faster and these laming go away. You dont have to play regame, just log out or put dnd on. Sorry, but thats just lame, if you say your going to regame then re game, if u dont want to regame cause you know ur win was a fluke or you have to go, then say no. I cant stand when people get lucky 1 game and refuse to rematch | ||
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