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Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
February 11 2008 17:12 GMT
#261
Hmm, maybe subtitle one of the Casy games played today? I did not watch them yet, but from what I heard the entertainment value must have been huge. If not that ... hmm, I would prefer recent commentaries over old ones, as I am mostly interested in recent starcraft knowledge by the commentators. If they are excited or not about a game I can mostly figure out by myself.
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comabreaded
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
United States2166 Posts
February 12 2008 03:19 GMT
#262
fcuk thank you! i watched jaedong vs iris, kal va kwanro, and bisu bnet attack. very entertaining stuff. And I know it takes forever to subtitle stuff cuz I did it as contract work once (but no translating involved). thank you for your time!
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pum
Profile Joined March 2004
Sweden306 Posts
February 12 2008 11:58 GMT
#263
awesome! thanks for the Bisu one!
populis
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Brazil88 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-13 08:05:50
February 13 2008 07:53 GMT
#264
AWESOME initiative.

May I be a bit selfish and ask for more subtitles?

I ask because I think the games in which the progamers talk about strategies and so are much valuable, and maybe the starleague/proleague ones aren't that much... (I watched the Bisu Bnet Attack and laugh a lot! The entertaining ones like the b.net attack series are awesome.)

So I'm asking you (FC.UK) to make subtitles from the StarBrain series [http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=StarBrain&search=tag] uploaded to Youtube by Jon747 [http://www.youtube.com/user/Jon747].

Not all games, but just the games between the two novices that receives verbal advices from pro's like Stork, Nada, etc.

As you can imagine, they should talk a lot of strategy to them. (And this reduces my ask into: before make any subtitle, just check if their talks are significant, because I just can't know this...)

I know Youtube videos aren't downloadable (unless you use some Firefox video download extension) and they aren't that good quality videos. But I think maybe we can ask Jon747 for the high quality ones (I suppose he has them, because it's non sense to me to record a video at that quality).

I imagine how already overloaded by subtitles FC.UK should be, but maybe the people here that know korean could help him just by providing translated texts? I mean no subtitle tech-details involved like syncing and so. This could really help?

Anyway, thanks FC.UK for the no-price work done here.
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Motiva
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1774 Posts
February 13 2008 08:16 GMT
#265
I just have to post thank you again I am so grateful. I wish someone could pay you to do this...
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
February 13 2008 13:34 GMT
#266
On January 28 2008 09:53 FConnectionUK wrote:
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Coming Soon!

Progress Report: 7%
10 mins out of 30 mins Translated
0% Synced
Expected Date: 2/16/2008 (No Guarantee tho, hehe...)

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Whatwhat, already on the next project? Was it announced what was coming next or is it going to be a mystery-subtitle? The poll-winner Reach vs. Sea?

I am sooooo looking forward to the next installments, these are amazing.
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St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
February 13 2008 14:18 GMT
#267
NEEEEEXT !!!!!!

this is great man, we love you !!
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Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States316 Posts
February 13 2008 17:26 GMT
#268
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 13 2008 22:34 Aesop wrote:
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
February 13 2008 18:32 GMT
#269
O_O :D
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FConnectionUK *
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States316 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-13 21:18:47
February 13 2008 21:16 GMT
#270
On February 13 2008 16:53 populis wrote:
AWESOME initiative.

May I be a bit selfish and ask for more subtitles?

I ask because I think the games in which the progamers talk about strategies and so are much valuable, and maybe the starleague/proleague ones aren't that much... (I watched the Bisu Bnet Attack and laugh a lot! The entertaining ones like the b.net attack series are awesome.)

Not all games, but just the games between the two novices that receives verbal advices from pro's like Stork, Nada, etc.

As you can imagine, they should talk a lot of strategy to them. (And this reduces my ask into: before make any subtitle, just check if their talks are significant, because I just can't know this...)


Few reasons why this is not possible.
1) It's already hard enough to make subtitle for 3 people shouting constantly. But to make 2 players talking at the SAME time? I'm not sure how I would do that because I'm very newb subtitle maker. (I spent good deal amount of time trying to learn how to do this. Guide tells me to use |, yet it doesn't work when I play the file)
2) Secondly, progamers have their own terms made up for a specific style or play. Because they are giving orders to one and another, it's not very audience-friendly. Besides, not many of them are good speakers to begin with.
3) These games does not mean anything to progamers. Hence, you will never see high quality games. These games have the quality of "practice" games. True, you can learn alot, but there is zero excitement.

Nonetheless, I 100% agree that they give out shitloads of advice. Every small details matter to them. Especially timing advices. If someone is to teach me how to make subtitle for 2 people shouting at the same time, I'll reconsider to make one of them just to end your curiousity ;P

p.s. thank you for your support!

SC:BW - NrG.fCuk // SC2 - NrGGuN
Trainwreck
Profile Joined February 2008
United States40 Posts
February 13 2008 22:03 GMT
#271
what runs .smi files? windows lookup said realplayer but it still doesn't work. :-/ the zip file worked for meh tho
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
February 13 2008 22:13 GMT
#272
On February 14 2008 07:03 Trainwreck wrote:
what runs .smi files? windows lookup said realplayer but it still doesn't work. :-/ the zip file worked for meh tho


Windows Media Player seems to be working fine for me, which is weird because for the Kwanro/Kal and JD/Iris subs I had to convert to .srt format, while the Bisu one works fine as .smi O_o
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Meh
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden458 Posts
February 15 2008 03:13 GMT
#273
I am absolutely loving this. If I had the choice of getting the Bnet attack channel right into my tv with subtitles I would NEVER leave the house -_- Watching the Bisu bna was awesome.
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teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-15 04:23:16
February 15 2008 04:00 GMT
#274
Thanks for the subtitles. I really enjoyed the Bisu B.Net attack. Do you need help with syncing? I'm sure there are lots of people who can do it for you if you don't enjoy that part. I could try to help too, although I don't understand Korean.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
February 16 2008 08:05 GMT
#275
Hm, have you thought about covering any games from PL final since Nal Ra is guest commentator? :o
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JoxxOr
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden1502 Posts
February 16 2008 15:09 GMT
#276
So fucking sweet. I really enjoyed Bnet attack and it was so fun to watch
Gör om, gör rätt
myrmidon2537
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Philippines2188 Posts
February 19 2008 03:41 GMT
#277
If anyone's not busy, can they make a sub or transcript of MBC's tribute to bisu?

And thanks for the B.net attack subs <3 really good
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MyLostTemple *
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2921 Posts
February 19 2008 04:01 GMT
#278
i'm learning a lot from these : ) espec. the stuff for terran and zerg.
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
February 19 2008 04:18 GMT
#279
On January 28 2008 09:53 FConnectionUK wrote:
Few things You can learn from Subtitle:
1) Overlord and CommandCenter/Nexus have same vision range. However, the vision starts from the center of the building/unit. This means, when zerg scouts a base with an overlord, it's possible for Zerg's overlord to see you, but your big CC/Nex will NOT see the overlord.

2) Most minerals are 1500. Progamers time their attack based on how many minerals are left. When an Expansion have 1400, this means exp's been running for 1:30 minutes. You can then decide whether to forfeit the timing and play catch up, or time.

3) Lurkers shoot faster when you give target even before they are fully burrowed. Don't ask why, they just do.

4) With 11 Mutalisks stacked together, you only need to hit the turret twice. Even though, it will not completely kill off the turret, in next 2 seconds it will blow up. So have a new target.

These can be all learned just by listening to the Korean commentators and is very helpful.

Can you post more of these? It's a lot easier than translating whole VODs. :D
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Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
February 19 2008 06:41 GMT
#280
On February 19 2008 13:18 SonuvBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2008 09:53 FConnectionUK wrote:
Few things You can learn from Subtitle:
1) Overlord and CommandCenter/Nexus have same vision range. However, the vision starts from the center of the building/unit. This means, when zerg scouts a base with an overlord, it's possible for Zerg's overlord to see you, but your big CC/Nex will NOT see the overlord.

2) Most minerals are 1500. Progamers time their attack based on how many minerals are left. When an Expansion have 1400, this means exp's been running for 1:30 minutes. You can then decide whether to forfeit the timing and play catch up, or time.

3) Lurkers shoot faster when you give target even before they are fully burrowed. Don't ask why, they just do.

4) With 11 Mutalisks stacked together, you only need to hit the turret twice. Even though, it will not completely kill off the turret, in next 2 seconds it will blow up. So have a new target.

These can be all learned just by listening to the Korean commentators and is very helpful.

Can you post more of these? It's a lot easier than translating whole VODs. :D


I think SonuvBob makes a good point. Most of us are watching these subs because of awesome insight such as this. No doubt it is very fun to listen to friendly drama between Bisu and Savior, but game insight I think is more valued. Jaedong vs Iris was especially full of this insight, making it an extremely valuable subtitle. Not demoting the value of the Bisu sub or the Kal vs Kwanro sub, but the richness of game commentary in Jaedong vs Iris was very awesome.

If you ever find snippets of valuable game insight such as the tips you posted in the OP, it'd be very much appreciated. Much thanks - you're doing an awesome job!
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