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ilovev
Profile Joined February 2005
Korea (North)213 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-24 08:44:09
January 23 2008 12:00 GMT
#1
i search in forum, but last topic created in 2003 year...
i go to TLPD - dont find information about it...
if u know about mouse which use progamers plz write here..
im very interesting which mouse use Protoss_PRogamers...
P.S. sorry for my english.

Progamer Mouse:

+ Show Spoiler +

Garimto, White-Ra, Stork: logitech G1
Nal_rA: logitech M-UV55a
Reach, July, Iris, Midas, Anytime, Nada, Sea, Bisu, Savior: logitech mini optical
Yellow, Hery, ZergBong: KTEC 2212.

need information about mouse of: Kal, Pusan, Much, Jangbi.
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-23 12:09:24
January 23 2008 12:08 GMT
#2
Many including Bisu and Savior i believe use the those Logitech Mini Opticals.
[image loading]



Nal_Ra still uses a ball mouse.
Storchen
Profile Joined September 2006
Sweden4385 Posts
January 23 2008 12:09 GMT
#3
you shouldnt be sorry for your english! Its great, made me laugh

About the mouse, I have no idea sorry. just regular mouses I guess, whatever suits them.
Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
January 23 2008 15:25 GMT
#4
I can vouch for mini mice, the way you are forced to grip them makes it easier to click the buttons and the smaller stature gives you more room to work with on the desk. I used to use one for playing SC, actually the best mouse I've had (except the scroll wheel on it broke and I couldn't find a suitable replacement that didn't look like a POS at the time - its still around here somewhere...).
♞
PuertoRican
Profile Joined April 2004
United States5709 Posts
January 23 2008 15:36 GMT
#5
On January 23 2008 21:08 Kennigit wrote:
Many including Bisu and Savior i believe use the those Logitech Mini Opticals.
[image loading]



Nal_Ra still uses a ball mouse.


The mouse model: M-UV55a

Works pretty well too, especially for my size hand.
If anyone orders any merlot Im leaving. I am NOT drinking any fucking merlot.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
January 23 2008 16:26 GMT
#6
Reach used to use Microsoft Optical Wheel

He switched to an Op Mini recently (gift from fans)

As mentioned before, Nal_rA uses a Logitech ball mouse
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ray1234
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada679 Posts
January 23 2008 16:30 GMT
#7
lol rA is so old school, i wonder how often he cleans his mouse ball
go OVERSKY MODE!
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
January 23 2008 16:36 GMT
#8
i think after so many years, rA is pretty experience in handling of balls.
...from the land of imba
liosama
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Australia843 Posts
January 23 2008 16:39 GMT
#9
On January 24 2008 01:26 Last Romantic wrote:
Reach used to use Microsoft Optical Wheel

He switched to an Op Mini recently (gift from fans)



how cute @ the gift, big switch for a progamer though :S
Free Palestine
Asakura
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
Germany471 Posts
January 23 2008 16:53 GMT
#10
Stork uses the Logitech G1, and I'm satisfied with it as well.

[image loading]
Man is disturbed not by things, but by the views he takes of them. (Epictetus)
Sewi
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany1697 Posts
January 23 2008 16:57 GMT
#11
On January 24 2008 01:53 Asakura wrote:
Stork uses the Logitech G1, and I'm satisfied with it as well.

[image loading]


Its a great mouse, btw, many non-koreans have bigger hands (at least I read this somewhere) so this mouse fits them well.

If you have small hands you should stick to the above-mentioned "mini"
If you have normal/big hands try the Logitech G1. its really good!!
"Well, things were going ok until he lost all his stuff" - Tasteless, 17.02.2016
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
January 23 2008 17:09 GMT
#12
Ball mice represent~
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
January 23 2008 17:19 GMT
#13
G1 doesn't look that big.
Rillanon.au
chicken`
Profile Joined January 2004
Germany3478 Posts
January 23 2008 17:23 GMT
#14
g1 isnt really big, i got one.i ts freaking light and awesooooome, other mice seem so weighty compared to it.
jeremy clarkson = god
gankc64
Profile Joined October 2007
Sweden6 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-23 17:27:29
January 23 2008 17:25 GMT
#15
G1 looks like the good ol' Logitech Mx300.
Had one a few years ago, but things had a strange way to get broken/destroyed when I played quake 3..
Im so zzang it hurts.
Sir.Kimmel
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States785 Posts
January 23 2008 17:32 GMT
#16
I'm no where close to being even great at this game but this mouse is wonderful and works..... amazingly... has on the fly dps changing etc etc

Technical Specifications

o Tracking resolution: 2000/800/400 dpi (user-selectable)
o Image processing: 6.4 megapixels/second
o Maximum acceleration: 20 g
o Maximum speed: 45–65 inches/second (depending on surface)
o USB data format: 16 bits/axis
o USB report rate: 1000 reports/second
o Sleep mode: Disabled


[image loading]
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ZergZoul
Profile Joined April 2007
Mexico408 Posts
January 23 2008 17:51 GMT
#17
Why don't they use wireless ones?
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
January 23 2008 17:56 GMT
#18
Because they enjoy winning.
I need to protect all your life you can enjoy the vibrant life of your battery
yubee
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States3826 Posts
January 23 2008 17:57 GMT
#19
mouses that run on batteries? that you will use 15 hours a day? ignoring that the mouses just suck, it'd cost you a fortune in batteries
JensOfSweden
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Cameroon1767 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-23 18:08:27
January 23 2008 18:05 GMT
#20
On January 23 2008 21:09 Storchen wrote:
you shouldnt be sorry for your english! Its great, made me laugh

About the mouse, I have no idea sorry. just regular mouses I guess, whatever suits them.


Umm okay? I don't think his intention was to make your sorry ass laugh.

What Kennigit said. Many progamers use those retail Logitech mice and Boxer at least until very recently still, like Nal_rA used a ball mouse.
<3 Nada [On and off TL.net since 2002
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-23 18:25:04
January 23 2008 18:15 GMT
#21
@Sir.Kimmel

That's the mouse I use also, and it's friggin huge, but I definitely like it. I've never tried one of these minis, but my fanboyism might drive me to test run one...

I find with the big mouse when I play SC I just keep my finger tips on it, I feel I can still be pretty dextrous with it, and the accuracy is superb.

Edit: I'm pretty sure M-UV55a is an optical mouse? On Nal_rA's player page on the MagicNs site it says he uses a "Logitech Mini Wheel" I think as opposed to a Mini Optical.


Logitech Mini Wheel

Can't be bought anymore apparently, obviously since it's a ball mouse.
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KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1764 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-23 18:16:23
January 23 2008 18:15 GMT
#22
I already had bought the Logitech Mini Opticals for my laptop before even i knew what sort of mice the progamers used, now i use it to my desktop computer x)

edit: This is what ive seen bisu use btw
[image loading]
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Dromar
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States2145 Posts
January 23 2008 18:21 GMT
#23
Yeah, I bought a wireless mouse, and it was a complete dissapointment.

The batteries only lasted 3 (that's right) hours before they died, even though the box claimed the battery life was a month. They must have assumed people only use computers 6 minutes a day. On top of that, it tended to spaz out about every 5 minutes. I couldn't play anything or do anything with it.
ATeddyBear
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Canada2843 Posts
January 23 2008 18:29 GMT
#24
which is better, Laser or Optical?
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Polar
Profile Joined September 2007
Swaziland274 Posts
January 23 2008 18:36 GMT
#25
Optical. By far.
ATeddyBear
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Canada2843 Posts
January 23 2008 18:39 GMT
#26
why so?
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dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
January 23 2008 18:44 GMT
#27
i thought laser is more superior from a technical stand pt.

1. laser gives sharper detection (due to uniformity of the light)
2. less power consumption.
...from the land of imba
SickTighT
Profile Joined April 2007
United States337 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-23 18:56:35
January 23 2008 18:54 GMT
#28
no love for razer's here?

i originally had the Diamondback 1600 DPI before i switched to the Copperhead 2000 DPI and i love this thing to death

=P

and yea...laser > optical for reasons stated above

EDIT: oh and to stay on topic...any pros use Razer?
aka's Is[fOrGe], f0cUs)Panic
Steelflight-Rx
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1389 Posts
January 23 2008 19:01 GMT
#29
On January 24 2008 03:05 JensOfSweden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2008 21:09 Storchen wrote:
you shouldnt be sorry for your english! Its great, made me laugh

About the mouse, I have no idea sorry. just regular mouses I guess, whatever suits them.


Umm okay? I don't think his intention was to make your sorry ass laugh.

What Kennigit said. Many progamers use those retail Logitech mice and Boxer at least until very recently still, like Nal_rA used a ball mouse.

Wow, douche bag, way to take someone being nice and then completely bash them, hope u get run over by a truck.
yubee wrote: you know? it's a great night you should all smile no matter what harddships, because grass grows and the sky is blue and it's a good life.
rinoavn
Profile Joined January 2008
Vietnam47 Posts
January 23 2008 19:06 GMT
#30
Anymouse is okie as long as you feel comfortable with it. Some people think that you will have advantage if your mouse fast, but it not always true, because it will reduce your accuracy as well. I have seen one FVOD of nal_ra, and in this video he decrease window mouse pointer speed to really low.

But when you like fast mouse, then go with high DPI mouse. And if you want to know what is the difference of increasing mouse speed between switch to high DPI and increase window mouse speed (soft), then open paint, and try to draw a flower with your mouse, you will know.

I currently use Habu, and quite satisfy with it. My keyboard is G15, it also good. My last keyboard is Reclusa, and I highly NOT recommend people for it.

Reclusa feel really good at first, when you type, you dont feel like you pressing keyboard, but pressing PS2 button. But nightmare come fews day later, when I press one button, it not response, I press it again, and this time it response as twice (even more). I switch to G15 2 weeks later.
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
January 23 2008 20:05 GMT
#31
On January 24 2008 02:32 Sir.Kimmel wrote:
I'm no where close to being even great at this game but this mouse is wonderful and works..... amazingly... has on the fly dps changing etc etc

Technical Specifications

o Tracking resolution: 2000/800/400 dpi (user-selectable)
o Image processing: 6.4 megapixels/second
o Maximum acceleration: 20 g
o Maximum speed: 45–65 inches/second (depending on surface)
o USB data format: 16 bits/axis
o USB report rate: 1000 reports/second
o Sleep mode: Disabled


[image loading]


I have it. It's too small.

My hands are Nada-sized. Seriously =_=
^-^
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
January 23 2008 20:07 GMT
#32
On January 24 2008 02:57 yubee wrote:
mouses that run on batteries? that you will use 15 hours a day? ignoring that the mouses just suck, it'd cost you a fortune in batteries


Don't they come with rechargable batteries and shit? If you don't want to charge go to Ikea and get those 12 packs for two bucks :D
^-^
JoxxOr
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden1502 Posts
January 23 2008 21:27 GMT
#33
[image loading]


IE 3.0 <3
Gör om, gör rätt
TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
January 23 2008 21:36 GMT
#34
I have an explorer 3.0 as well, except its white
Dunk.vn
Profile Joined December 2006
United States197 Posts
January 23 2008 22:13 GMT
#35
i got a white one also. But the black one looks sooo cool :|
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
January 23 2008 22:15 GMT
#36
i have a white one as above
i have a G5 sitting about 5 inches from it. too big for my hands >___>
}-fiZZon-{
Profile Joined January 2008
Russian Federation12 Posts
January 23 2008 22:22 GMT
#37
mx518>all
blagoonga123
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2068 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-23 22:23:38
January 23 2008 22:23 GMT
#38
uhh laser mice suck. Optical >>>>>>>> laser

As for a reason, Laser mice have issues keeping track of your motions when youre moving quickly, which many games require.
FOOL! Pain is my friend! Now let me introduce you to it!
Play
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia608 Posts
January 23 2008 22:30 GMT
#39
i have the white explorer mouse too. I stole it from school, its easy on the fingers.

oh wow its optical, i never knew...
jmascis
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
January 23 2008 23:18 GMT
#40
On January 24 2008 05:05 Equinox_kr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2008 02:32 Sir.Kimmel wrote:
I'm no where close to being even great at this game but this mouse is wonderful and works..... amazingly... has on the fly dps changing etc etc

Technical Specifications

o Tracking resolution: 2000/800/400 dpi (user-selectable)
o Image processing: 6.4 megapixels/second
o Maximum acceleration: 20 g
o Maximum speed: 45–65 inches/second (depending on surface)
o USB data format: 16 bits/axis
o USB report rate: 1000 reports/second
o Sleep mode: Disabled


[image loading]


I have it. It's too small.

My hands are Nada-sized. Seriously =_=

g5 is ftw
it's sooo comfortable
the dpi setting and shit don't really help though since this isn't a fps
Razamataz
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada135 Posts
January 24 2008 00:14 GMT
#41
I use the g5 too :D
UbRi
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Italy603 Posts
January 24 2008 00:20 GMT
#42
g3 anyone? I'm so fine with it..
Kula
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States140 Posts
January 24 2008 00:33 GMT
#43
Where would you get that soccer themed mouse?
GarlicPepper
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States563 Posts
January 24 2008 00:54 GMT
#44
Am I the only one who likes the G7? T_T
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
January 24 2008 01:01 GMT
#45
nobody in progaming uses KTEC mouse anymore?
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
alphafuzard
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1610 Posts
January 24 2008 01:09 GMT
#46
[image loading]


^^^ prob korean programmers dont use em but for those of us with chunky hands
RAZOR FTW!
more weight
liosama
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Australia843 Posts
January 24 2008 01:31 GMT
#47
Im having trouble understanding why laser diodes consume less power than a normal LED.

And no way does anyone need more tracking sensitivity with what lasers can provide it's overkill. Its like trying to use a Nasa equipment for a high school project to measure the force of gravity accurate to a decimal place.
Free Palestine
lmaonnaise
Profile Joined October 2006
Canada153 Posts
January 24 2008 02:03 GMT
#48
I just went through the KTF magicn's site and it listed which mouse their players were using (although several of them aren't in the team anymore ):
Garimto - Logitech G1
ZergBong, Hery, Yellow - KTEC-2212
Reach - Logitech Mini Optical
Nal_ra - Logteich Mini Wheel
Chojja, GoodFriend - tracker (?)
Oops[Shield], Flash - Logitech optical mouse (?)
jngngshk321
Profile Joined April 2003
Korea (South)457 Posts
January 24 2008 02:14 GMT
#49
On January 23 2008 21:08 Kennigit wrote:
Many including Bisu and Savior i believe use the those Logitech Mini Opticals.
[image loading]



Nal_Ra still uses a ball mouse.

i love this mouse

it's inexpensive, easy to maintain/clean, doesn't have those annoying thumb grooves, perfect size, perfect weight etc.

I have a friend who bought some kind of mouse designed for gaming and I couldn't stand the way it was designed (thumb buttons, grooves etc.)
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
January 24 2008 02:18 GMT
#50
On January 24 2008 02:51 ZergZoul wrote:
Why don't they use wireless ones?

They generally are heavier (battery) and respond slower (wireless emitter/receptor)
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
January 24 2008 02:19 GMT
#51
On January 24 2008 04:01 Steelflight-Rx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2008 03:05 JensOfSweden wrote:
On January 23 2008 21:09 Storchen wrote:
you shouldnt be sorry for your english! Its great, made me laugh

About the mouse, I have no idea sorry. just regular mouses I guess, whatever suits them.


Umm okay? I don't think his intention was to make your sorry ass laugh.

What Kennigit said. Many progamers use those retail Logitech mice and Boxer at least until very recently still, like Nal_rA used a ball mouse.

Wow, douche bag, way to take someone being nice and then completely bash them, hope u get run over by a truck.

2nd that, cept by a truck which is carrying a large load of douchebags.
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
January 24 2008 03:28 GMT
#52
[image loading]


I use the Microsoft Intelli 1.1 and it's great for FPS games, but to me it feels heavy for RTS game.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
January 24 2008 07:58 GMT
#53
On January 24 2008 10:01 Shauni wrote:
nobody in progaming uses KTEC mouse anymore?


KTEC is still popular

YellOw still uses his.
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shikun
Profile Joined February 2008
Korea (South)2 Posts
February 22 2008 08:49 GMT
#54
anyone know what mouse Flash, and Jaedong uses?
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
February 22 2008 09:05 GMT
#55
On January 24 2008 16:58 Last Romantic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2008 10:01 Shauni wrote:
nobody in progaming uses KTEC mouse anymore?


KTEC is still popular

YellOw still uses his.


does it really matter what mouse yellow uses anymore

Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
iori_LT
Profile Joined May 2003
Lithuania675 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-22 09:55:27
February 22 2008 09:54 GMT
#56
On February 22 2008 18:05 alffla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2008 16:58 Last Romantic wrote:
On January 24 2008 10:01 Shauni wrote:
nobody in progaming uses KTEC mouse anymore?


KTEC is still popular

YellOw still uses his.


does it really matter what mouse yellow uses anymore


Maybe u dont care about yellow, but noone would dare to ignore ZERGBONG!
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iori_LT
Profile Joined May 2003
Lithuania675 Posts
February 22 2008 09:55 GMT
#57
and HERY TOO!!! lol :D
addicted to TL.net
Battle_dude
Profile Joined June 2007
Norway49 Posts
February 22 2008 11:28 GMT
#58
On January 24 2008 02:57 yubee wrote:
mouses that run on batteries? that you will use 15 hours a day? ignoring that the mouses just suck, it'd cost you a fortune in batteries





Dude, how about Logitech G7? It has recharge batt.
StarCraft II will rock! : )
NiGoL-X17
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden34 Posts
February 22 2008 11:42 GMT
#59
haha, i use mx1000. :O
i fear no players
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
February 22 2008 12:04 GMT
#60
I use the [image loading], its very light and smaller than the G5 but has more DPI option plus cheaper.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6172 Posts
February 22 2008 16:31 GMT
#61
On January 24 2008 12:28 zoLo wrote:
[image loading]


I use the Microsoft Intelli 1.1 and it's great for FPS games, but to me it feels heavy for RTS game.


I use that same :D
But I also play more FPS

Great control with it
n_n
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
February 22 2008 17:08 GMT
#62
G1 is like TEH mouse for BW, it's ideal. Too bad mine got damaged when it crashed into a wall. ^^

I heard its out of production now, its a shame.
drug_vict1m
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
844 Posts
February 22 2008 17:15 GMT
#63
On January 23 2008 21:00 ilovev wrote:
i search in forum, but last topic created in 2003 year...
i go to TLPD - dont find information about it...
if u know about mouse which use progamers plz write here..
im very interesting which mouse use Protoss_PRogamers...
P.S. sorry for my english.

Progamer Mouse:


Garimto, White-Ra, Stork: logitech G1
Nal_rA: logitech M-UV55a
Reach, July, Iris, Midas, Anytime, Nada, Sea, Bisu, Savior, BOXER: logitech mini optical
Yellow, Hery, ZergBong: KTEC 2212.

need information about mouse of: Kal, Pusan, Much, Jangbi.

One must feel chaos within, to give birth to a dancing star.
lake
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada150 Posts
February 22 2008 17:20 GMT
#64
I have a g5 and the mini optical. I like the mini optical in bw but the dpi kills it for me it just jumps too much at high resolution

The G5 is alright but I wish it was smaller
what
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4843 Posts
February 22 2008 17:28 GMT
#65
Maybe this was mentioned earlier but: I want a mouse that uses progamers. I seriously do.
Complete the cycle!
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4843 Posts
February 22 2008 17:31 GMT
#66
On January 24 2008 10:09 alphafuzard wrote:
[image loading]


^^^ prob korean programmers dont use em but for those of us with chunky hands
RAZOR FTW!


Christ, sorry to be an ass but this is like the 4th time in 3 days that I read this.

Repeat after me, slowly:
P-R-O-G-R-A-M-M-E-R is a person that writes progams (ok vague definiton, but meh)
P-R-O-G-A-M-E-R a gamer (player) that plays a (computer) game on a professional level. This is the word you are looking for.

Also:
It's RazEr Diamondback, damnit. NOT RazOr(maybe care to read the very same link you posted?). Christ. Some people just make me very upset sometimes.
Complete the cycle!
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-22 17:41:51
February 22 2008 17:41 GMT
#67
On February 23 2008 02:31 Naib wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2008 10:09 alphafuzard wrote:
[image loading]


^^^ prob korean programmers dont use em but for those of us with chunky hands
RAZOR FTW!


Christ, sorry to be an ass but this is like the 4th time in 3 days that I read this.

Repeat after me, slowly:
P-R-O-G-R-A-M-M-E-R is a person that writes progams (ok vague definiton, but meh)
P-R-O-G-A-M-E-R a gamer (player) that plays a (computer) game on a professional level. This is the word you are looking for.

Also:
It's RazEr Diamondback, damnit. NOT RazOr(maybe care to read the very same link you posted?). Christ. Some people just make me very upset sometimes.


Not only that, but Razers are tacky flashy FPS pieces of crap that I'd never want to be seen using.

Long live the Logitech Genius Mini.
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
February 22 2008 17:56 GMT
#68
Are mice with extra buttons on them disallowed in proleagues?
"Oh no, we've drawn Judge Schneider" "Is that bad?" "Well, he's had it in for me ever since I kinda ran over his dog" "You did?" "Yeah...if you replace the word *kinda* with *repeatedly*...and the word *dog* with son"
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
February 22 2008 18:06 GMT
#69
--- Nuked ---
Dreamer]
Profile Joined November 2005
Sweden358 Posts
February 22 2008 18:19 GMT
#70
[image loading]

Razer all the way!
It has to start somewhere, It has to start sometime. What better place than here, what better time than now?
noobienoob
Profile Joined July 2007
United States1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-22 18:28:51
February 22 2008 18:27 GMT
#71
I use this piece of crap.
[image loading]

It's less than 10 dollars and feels like the best mouse I've ever used in my life.

What's the big deal about mice? ...just use what's comfortable for you, that's really the only important thing. If it's a Razer, then so be it, if it's a 5 dollar piece of crap more power to you. lol

Which progamer uses Razer Diamondback anyway?
edit: i admit that mouse looks like the shit tho :D
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4843 Posts
February 22 2008 18:40 GMT
#72
LR, thanks for quoting me and sorry to disagree with you - I use a Razer and I love it (it's that cute red one that someone linked above) I know it isn't for the best, but I got quite big and long hands - it suits me, small mouses wouldn't. Also, it's kind of a superstition:

Spring, 2005 I was attending one of my (yet, at least) Hungarian LAN tourneys with my oldass, crappy A4tech mouse (seriously it was plastique, but SO HEAVY that many people mocked me for it - I was still very fast with it tho), but alas - I never used a mousepad with it, and the netcafé's desks, for some reason mutilated it's movement speed by 95% or so, no need to say I couldn't use it at all. Also, noone had a spare mousepad.

So, there I am, checking out the inhouse mouses (which sucked cock), when suddenly Cabala (at that point of time HUN-A leader) comes by and asks me about "Why the sad face, Naib?" I explain the situation, then he lends me his Razer Diamondback accompanied with his steelpad - "Here, now go and win this tourney for me, then remember to thank me for it in the end."

That was the first, (and last) LAN I've ever won. And almost everyone of Hungary's great names at that time was there (Kashuka and Gorky being an exception). No need to say that from the mass $$ I got as prize, my first thing was to buy my very own Razer - which I still use
Complete the cycle!
GeneralZap
Profile Joined January 2008
United States172 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-22 19:32:56
February 22 2008 18:51 GMT
#73
I use the Microsoft wireless laser mouse 5000, it's nice, you pretty much just plug it in, or you can even program the two extra buttons. 4 Way tilt scroll.


I skipped completely from Ball mouse to laser, but if I was a pro gamer I'd probably go with old technology that never messes up with maintenence. My laser mouse left click occasionally sticks down... very annoying. I may have a powerful left click, but that's inexcusable, though forgiveable.


It's two generations ahead of everything else though.

[image loading]
Death has lost its sting.
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
February 22 2008 18:55 GMT
#74
On February 23 2008 03:27 noobienoob wrote:
I use this piece of crap.
[image loading]

It's less than 10 dollars and feels like the best mouse I've ever used in my life.

What's the big deal about mice? ...just use what's comfortable for you, that's really the only important thing. If it's a Razer, then so be it, if it's a 5 dollar piece of crap more power to you. lol

Which progamer uses Razer Diamondback anyway?
edit: i admit that mouse looks like the shit tho :D


i use that for my laptop and its the most comfortable mouse i ever held
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
February 22 2008 18:57 GMT
#75
On February 23 2008 03:40 Naib wrote:
LR, thanks for quoting me and sorry to disagree with you - I use a Razer and I love it (it's that cute red one that someone linked above) I know it isn't for the best, but I got quite big and long hands - it suits me, small mouses wouldn't. Also, it's kind of a superstition:

Spring, 2005 I was attending one of my (yet, at least) Hungarian LAN tourneys with my oldass, crappy A4tech mouse (seriously it was plastique, but SO HEAVY that many people mocked me for it - I was still very fast with it tho), but alas - I never used a mousepad with it, and the netcafé's desks, for some reason mutilated it's movement speed by 95% or so, no need to say I couldn't use it at all. Also, noone had a spare mousepad.

So, there I am, checking out the inhouse mouses (which sucked cock), when suddenly Cabala (at that point of time HUN-A leader) comes by and asks me about "Why the sad face, Naib?" I explain the situation, then he lends me his Razer Diamondback accompanied with his steelpad - "Here, now go and win this tourney for me, then remember to thank me for it in the end."

That was the first, (and last) LAN I've ever won. And almost everyone of Hungary's great names at that time was there (Kashuka and Gorky being an exception). No need to say that from the mass $$ I got as prize, my first thing was to buy my very own Razer - which I still use


Nice story

It's just personal preference, I suppose. I've had some bad run-ins with Razers :x

To each his own^^
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-22 19:24:35
February 22 2008 19:24 GMT
#76
Can somebody recommend me a mouse that's bigger than Logitech G5 ... this mouse is soooooo small for my hand

edit: BTW I checked out MX Revolution at some stores and it seems OK but the price is ridiculous; it's like 100 :O
^-^
GeneralZap
Profile Joined January 2008
United States172 Posts
February 22 2008 19:35 GMT
#77
Microsoft Wireless Laser Mouse 5000 is nice and large, but it's AMAZINGLY light.

My ball mouse is heavier, and it's default.
Death has lost its sting.
killanator
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States549 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-22 20:17:28
February 22 2008 20:17 GMT
#78
i use the logitech MX-518
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its pretty good for me at its highest setting, i like the weight and shape. although don't trust by me, my hands are literally deformed(brachy dactylie of the 4th finger on both hands)
DJ, put it back on!
AdamBanks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada996 Posts
February 22 2008 20:46 GMT
#79
[image loading]


Best ever?
I wrote a song once.
Scooter
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States747 Posts
February 23 2008 20:54 GMT
#80
I use a razer copperhead, but it's a bit too heavy for starcraft. I think it's perfect for sensitive games that require really precise clicks over twitch clicks, like Warcraft 3 and Counterstrike (which might be why so many of them are sponsored by razer ._.) Then again, I'm pretty much talking out of my ass.
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IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-23 21:03:42
February 23 2008 21:02 GMT
#81
All the mice the programmers use are like 10 bucks mice so just pick out a small ass optical mouse that is sold in korea and a progammer maybe uses it
[image loading]


G9 its ugly as hell but its wide and if you have big hands like me youll like the fact its wide and short. Of course i tend to use its 7 buttons for macro settings in programs over games but its just confortable for me.

Best yet it sells in america!
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
LastlinG
Profile Joined August 2006
Poland26 Posts
February 23 2008 21:42 GMT
#82
i love my ktec 6500pro as far as i know Reach used ktec 3350.
...make sure you have expert timing -_-y
ZergZoul
Profile Joined April 2007
Mexico408 Posts
February 23 2008 22:06 GMT
#83
On February 23 2008 05:46 AdamBanks wrote:
[image loading]


Best ever?

Koreans would still own us with that T_T
eugen1225
Profile Joined February 2008
Yugoslavia134 Posts
February 23 2008 22:08 GMT
#84
This is my first time posting on these forums, mostly because i didn't find it relevant to enter pointless discussions with ppl stating things based purely on their gut feeling.
However this time i feel that my knowledge about this particular topic can put some light on the MOUSE subject, and explain some things that I'm sure most of you don't know.

To understand why these Starcraft pro gamers use outdated mice, we first need to understand how mice work, and why different mice produce different movements on the screen and same sensitivity setups.

DPI this is translated as "Dots per Inch". It basically means how many dots a mouse cursor will move if the mouse is moved for one (1) inch (1 inch = 2.53 cm) on a surface (a mouse pad for example).

Sensitivity filters - the mouse signal can be amplified and changed so that the distance traversed on the screen increases or decreases (simply put you can increase or decrease the sensitivity of the mouse in windows, and thrue special mouse drivers). However if we set the sensitivity in control panel to the 5th scale (the middle) and turn off the Enhanced pointer precision (acceleration), the mouse input we get is the pure mouse movement unchanged by artificial filters.

To better understand these 2 things lets move on to examples.

If for example we have a screen resolution of 800x600 and we have a Logitech mx300 mouse (800 DPI), and sensitivity filters are off, by moving the mouse for 1 inch we will move the cursor from one end of the screen to the other. If we want to achieve the same effect in a resolution of 1280x1024 (standard 19" LCD resolution) we would have to increase the sensitivity of the mouse VIA filters or increase the DPI of the mouse. A 1600 DPI mouse will cover this LCD screen in a movement that is less than 1 inch, in order for my logitech mx300 to achieve the same effect (remember he has 800 DPI), i would need to double his sensitivity in the windows sensitivity fileter (mouse setup in control panel) by moving the pointer speed from the middle to the far right (100% bonus speed increase), but lose precision in the process.

Now that we understand how DPI affects sensitivity we can conclude how this affects Starcraft and why some people say Razer mice or some other logitech hihg DPI mice are not good(this however not being true).

Starcraft uses a 640x480 screen resolution, by using an old 800 DPI mouse with sens unfiltered by windows you will get a middle to higher speed sensitivity that is very nice for use in starcraft (less than almost 1 inch of movement covers the whole screen). If we use a 2000 DPi mouse the default sensitivity will be very big and the game would be unplayable by most players unless they reduce the sens via the windows filter. However almost all mice that have over 1600 DPI also have an option to reduce the DPI to 800 or 400 so you don't have to artificially lower it via the windows filter. If u use unfiltered sensitivity, the mouse movement is more accurate and also it is 99% the same on any computer you go and plug in your mouse (very useful for LANs and Tourneys).

Lets look at higher resolutions now. If we play a game in 1280x1024, if i want to achieve the same sensitivity feel like i have in SC (640x480) i will have to almost double my sensitivity in windows (and in the process lose a lot of precision) or get a mouse with higher DPI.

Also, keep in mind, when SC2 comes out, the resolution you play in won't be 640x480, it will be higher, and if you use an outdated mouse you will most likely be unable to use the same sensitivity you used in SC.

If you read all of the above and understood it, you now know why SC progamers use outdated mice. Its basically because SC is an outdated program (technically, not the gameplay), and not because the new high end mice are no good, they just don't need them, they don't help them.

I own a logitech white pilot mouse (400 DPI), a mx 300 (800 DPI), inteli explorer 3.0 (800) DPI, logitech dual optical (iirc 800 DPI), and a Razer Copperhead (2000 DPI-adjustable to 400,800,1600 and 2000). I have played Q3, CS, and war3 on tourneys with some of them. Regarding SC, if i set Copperheads DPI to 800, the sensitivity is almost the same as on the logitech mx300, and the precision is almost the same.

When choosing a mouse, it is important to know what you will be using for, and how versatile it is.
Also looks also matter. To some more, to some less, but its always nice to have a cool looking mouse. If you use Logitech G1 to play SC, you like its design, it fits your hand, the G5 (2000DPI laser) will do all that and more, in SC you just lower its DPI, and if you play something else you wont have a garbage mouse that is only excellent in SC.

There is also mouse design, most RTS players use symmetrical mice, although this is not a rule set in stone. just chose the mouse that you feel is most comfortable in your hand and fits your grip style (Palm or Finger grips).

Hope this sheds some light on the "GAMING MOUSE" subject.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51453 Posts
February 23 2008 22:40 GMT
#85
I hate how people think 'oh, a progamer uses that mouse, that will make me good!'.

For god sakes, a good mouse is one that is good for you.
Commentator
Quasimoto3000
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States471 Posts
March 08 2010 05:26 GMT
#86
I feel like such an idiot. I just went out and bought a really nice mouse for sc2, only to find that boxer and nalra use a ball mouse.
Haha delusions of grandeur. A mouse will not make me better at sc /-:
Every sunday a nun lays from my gunplay
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
March 08 2010 05:44 GMT
#87
Nice bump haha. But I think since SC2 has a higher resolution, higher dpi might help *a bit*. Hopefully my G1 will still be good enough.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
andeh
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States904 Posts
March 08 2010 06:02 GMT
#88
preference
Jlab
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States217 Posts
March 28 2010 03:14 GMT
#89
On February 24 2008 07:08 eugen1225 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
This is my first time posting on these forums, mostly because i didn't find it relevant to enter pointless discussions with ppl stating things based purely on their gut feeling.
However this time i feel that my knowledge about this particular topic can put some light on the MOUSE subject, and explain some things that I'm sure most of you don't know.

To understand why these Starcraft pro gamers use outdated mice, we first need to understand how mice work, and why different mice produce different movements on the screen and same sensitivity setups.

DPI this is translated as "Dots per Inch". It basically means how many dots a mouse cursor will move if the mouse is moved for one (1) inch (1 inch = 2.53 cm) on a surface (a mouse pad for example).

Sensitivity filters - the mouse signal can be amplified and changed so that the distance traversed on the screen increases or decreases (simply put you can increase or decrease the sensitivity of the mouse in windows, and thrue special mouse drivers). However if we set the sensitivity in control panel to the 5th scale (the middle) and turn off the Enhanced pointer precision (acceleration), the mouse input we get is the pure mouse movement unchanged by artificial filters.

To better understand these 2 things lets move on to examples.

If for example we have a screen resolution of 800x600 and we have a Logitech mx300 mouse (800 DPI), and sensitivity filters are off, by moving the mouse for 1 inch we will move the cursor from one end of the screen to the other. If we want to achieve the same effect in a resolution of 1280x1024 (standard 19" LCD resolution) we would have to increase the sensitivity of the mouse VIA filters or increase the DPI of the mouse. A 1600 DPI mouse will cover this LCD screen in a movement that is less than 1 inch, in order for my logitech mx300 to achieve the same effect (remember he has 800 DPI), i would need to double his sensitivity in the windows sensitivity fileter (mouse setup in control panel) by moving the pointer speed from the middle to the far right (100% bonus speed increase), but lose precision in the process.

Now that we understand how DPI affects sensitivity we can conclude how this affects Starcraft and why some people say Razer mice or some other logitech hihg DPI mice are not good(this however not being true).

Starcraft uses a 640x480 screen resolution, by using an old 800 DPI mouse with sens unfiltered by windows you will get a middle to higher speed sensitivity that is very nice for use in starcraft (less than almost 1 inch of movement covers the whole screen). If we use a 2000 DPi mouse the default sensitivity will be very big and the game would be unplayable by most players unless they reduce the sens via the windows filter. However almost all mice that have over 1600 DPI also have an option to reduce the DPI to 800 or 400 so you don't have to artificially lower it via the windows filter. If u use unfiltered sensitivity, the mouse movement is more accurate and also it is 99% the same on any computer you go and plug in your mouse (very useful for LANs and Tourneys).

Lets look at higher resolutions now. If we play a game in 1280x1024, if i want to achieve the same sensitivity feel like i have in SC (640x480) i will have to almost double my sensitivity in windows (and in the process lose a lot of precision) or get a mouse with higher DPI.

Also, keep in mind, when SC2 comes out, the resolution you play in won't be 640x480, it will be higher, and if you use an outdated mouse you will most likely be unable to use the same sensitivity you used in SC.

If you read all of the above and understood it, you now know why SC progamers use outdated mice. Its basically because SC is an outdated program (technically, not the gameplay), and not because the new high end mice are no good, they just don't need them, they don't help them.

I own a logitech white pilot mouse (400 DPI), a mx 300 (800 DPI), inteli explorer 3.0 (800) DPI, logitech dual optical (iirc 800 DPI), and a Razer Copperhead (2000 DPI-adjustable to 400,800,1600 and 2000). I have played Q3, CS, and war3 on tourneys with some of them. Regarding SC, if i set Copperheads DPI to 800, the sensitivity is almost the same as on the logitech mx300, and the precision is almost the same.

When choosing a mouse, it is important to know what you will be using for, and how versatile it is.
Also looks also matter. To some more, to some less, but its always nice to have a cool looking mouse. If you use Logitech G1 to play SC, you like its design, it fits your hand, the G5 (2000DPI laser) will do all that and more, in SC you just lower its DPI, and if you play something else you wont have a garbage mouse that is only excellent in SC.

There is also mouse design, most RTS players use symmetrical mice, although this is not a rule set in stone. just chose the mouse that you feel is most comfortable in your hand and fits your grip style (Palm or Finger grips).

Hope this sheds some light on the "GAMING MOUSE" subject.


Thank you for finally explaining what nobody else has, i'd been wondering why they use those mice and i have a diamondback 3G. I was wondering if i should have gotten a G1 or something, so i should use my crappy logitech mouse.
:D
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
March 28 2010 03:39 GMT
#90
On March 28 2010 12:14 Jlab wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2008 07:08 eugen1225 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
This is my first time posting on these forums, mostly because i didn't find it relevant to enter pointless discussions with ppl stating things based purely on their gut feeling.
However this time i feel that my knowledge about this particular topic can put some light on the MOUSE subject, and explain some things that I'm sure most of you don't know.

To understand why these Starcraft pro gamers use outdated mice, we first need to understand how mice work, and why different mice produce different movements on the screen and same sensitivity setups.

DPI this is translated as "Dots per Inch". It basically means how many dots a mouse cursor will move if the mouse is moved for one (1) inch (1 inch = 2.53 cm) on a surface (a mouse pad for example)

Sensitivity filters - the mouse signal can be amplified and changed so that the distance traversed on the screen increases or decreases (simply put you can increase or decrease the sensitivity of the mouse in windows, and thrue special mouse drivers). However if we set the sensitivity in control panel to the 5th scale (the middle) and turn off the Enhanced pointer precision (acceleration), the mouse input we get is the pure mouse movement unchanged by artificial filters.

To better understand these 2 things lets move on to examples.

If for example we have a screen resolution of 800x600 and we have a Logitech mx300 mouse (800 DPI), and sensitivity filters are off, by moving the mouse for 1 inch we will move the cursor from one end of the screen to the other. If we want to achieve the same effect in a resolution of 1280x1024 (standard 19" LCD resolution) we would have to increase the sensitivity of the mouse VIA filters or increase the DPI of the mouse. A 1600 DPI mouse will cover this LCD screen in a movement that is less than 1 inch, in order for my logitech mx300 to achieve the same effect (remember he has 800 DPI), i would need to double his sensitivity in the windows sensitivity fileter (mouse setup in control panel) by moving the pointer speed from the middle to the far right (100% bonus speed increase), but lose precision in the process.

Now that we understand how DPI affects sensitivity we can conclude how this affects Starcraft and why some people say Razer mice or some other logitech hihg DPI mice are not good(this however not being true).

Starcraft uses a 640x480 screen resolution, by using an old 800 DPI mouse with sens unfiltered by windows you will get a middle to higher speed sensitivity that is very nice for use in starcraft (less than almost 1 inch of movement covers the whole screen). If we use a 2000 DPi mouse the default sensitivity will be very big and the game would be unplayable by most players unless they reduce the sens via the windows filter. However almost all mice that have over 1600 DPI also have an option to reduce the DPI to 800 or 400 so you don't have to artificially lower it via the windows filter. If u use unfiltered sensitivity, the mouse movement is more accurate and also it is 99% the same on any computer you go and plug in your mouse (very useful for LANs and Tourneys).

Lets look at higher resolutions now. If we play a game in 1280x1024, if i want to achieve the same sensitivity feel like i have in SC (640x480) i will have to almost double my sensitivity in windows (and in the process lose a lot of precision) or get a mouse with higher DPI.

Also, keep in mind, when SC2 comes out, the resolution you play in won't be 640x480, it will be higher, and if you use an outdated mouse you will most likely be unable to use the same sensitivity you used in SC.

If you read all of the above and understood it, you now know why SC progamers use outdated mice. Its basically because SC is an outdated program (technically, not the gameplay), and not because the new high end mice are no good, they just don't need them, they don't help them.

I own a logitech white pilot mouse (400 DPI), a mx 300 (800 DPI), inteli explorer 3.0 (800) DPI, logitech dual optical (iirc 800 DPI), and a Razer Copperhead (2000 DPI-adjustable to 400,800,1600 and 2000). I have played Q3, CS, and war3 on tourneys with some of them. Regarding SC, if i set Copperheads DPI to 800, the sensitivity is almost the same as on the logitech mx300, and the precision is almost the same.

When choosing a mouse, it is important to know what you will be using for, and how versatile it is.
Also looks also matter. To some more, to some less, but its always nice to have a cool looking mouse. If you use Logitech G1 to play SC, you like its design, it fits your hand, the G5 (2000DPI laser) will do all that and more, in SC you just lower its DPI, and if you play something else you wont have a garbage mouse that is only excellent in SC.

There is also mouse design, most RTS players use symmetrical mice, although this is not a rule set in stone. just chose the mouse that you feel is most comfortable in your hand and fits your grip style (Palm or Finger grips).

Hope this sheds some light on the "GAMING MOUSE" subject.


Thank you for finally explaining what nobody else has, i'd been wondering why they use those mice and i have a diamondback 3G. I was wondering if i should have gotten a G1 or something, so i should use my crappy logitech mouse.
:D

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StayFrosty
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada743 Posts
March 28 2010 04:59 GMT
#91
shitty microsoft mouse here
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
March 28 2010 05:20 GMT
#92
I use a 3000 DPI Razer mouse on a control styled mousepad I like the ability to adjust the sensitivity in game.
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