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Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL

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jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1422 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-12 19:00:13
July 02 2025 03:19 GMT
#1
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Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2718 Posts
July 02 2025 04:13 GMT
#2
It's ogre.
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3095 Posts
July 02 2025 04:22 GMT
#3
Shame to hear he wont be playing this up coming ASL. I do hope in the future he can do one last ASL like he said when his wrist get better.
Artosis loves Starcraft
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44115 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-02 04:40:08
July 02 2025 04:39 GMT
#4
I was always curious how he holds up vs current Soulkey who looks unbeatable. I guess he still plays broodwar but cant practice extensively to the point of getting to competitive form I assume

He might really just be a streamer from now on
this is a quote
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1422 Posts
July 02 2025 04:42 GMT
#5
On July 02 2025 13:39 goody153 wrote:
I was always curious how he holds up vs current Soulkey who looks unbeatable. I guess he still plays broodwar but cant practice extensively to the point of getting to competitive form I assume

He might really just be a streamer from now on


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Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1407 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-02 05:14:33
July 02 2025 05:14 GMT
#6
Bad for the competition (or good if you want to read it like that), regrettable for us, but good for him and the right thing to do. Wouldn't want to live the rest of his life with completely defect hands.

Everyone knows he'd still beat anyone and win ASL if his body let him.
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1629 Posts
July 02 2025 05:15 GMT
#7
TL'DW = so he "retired." because of his wrists but guarantees he will be back at least once in the future to give it his all. so it's basically more of a break than a retirement for anyone curious.
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
Bonyth
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland558 Posts
July 02 2025 05:59 GMT
#8
First entering tournament with random, then dodges an ASL, then retiring until 'he feels better'. Sure, this has absolutely nothing to do with PR and potential ego loss.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7999 Posts
July 02 2025 06:25 GMT
#9
Too bad

Thanks for translation jinjin !!

PS: he is observing Effort vs TY
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iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1551 Posts
July 02 2025 06:36 GMT
#10
I can totally understand someone who has been dominant as Flash not bothering with tournaments if he feels that he can't be competitive as he used to be because of an injury. It would be interesting to have a Flash vs SK even though I believe Flash would come up on top. Not saying it would be easy far from it, but from what I have seen so far, Flash seems to always be one step ahead. As for Soma, bro is so scared he doesn't even open hatch 12 anymore lol, I don't even think he could kill Light.
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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7886 Posts
July 02 2025 08:06 GMT
#11
That’s so sad. I was really, really looking forward seeing him play. Don’t quite know who to root for now.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1629 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-02 08:48:13
July 02 2025 08:48 GMT
#12
Why is everyone still saying so sad? He said he will come back if his wrist heals. And even if it doesn't, he still guarantees us 1 more showing in ASL at least where he tries his hardest. Save the retirement posts for when he actually retires.
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44115 Posts
July 02 2025 09:26 GMT
#13
On July 02 2025 13:42 jinjin5000 wrote:
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On July 02 2025 13:39 goody153 wrote:
I was always curious how he holds up vs current Soulkey who looks unbeatable. I guess he still plays broodwar but cant practice extensively to the point of getting to competitive form I assume

He might really just be a streamer from now on


you can look up here
https://eloboard.com/men/bbs/board.php?bo_table=search_list

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Thanks man. I assume this is their like ladder stat or proleague stuff or something not ASL
this is a quote
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2692 Posts
July 02 2025 09:26 GMT
#14
Yes I'm with Bonyth on this one. While it's a valid reason to not compete anymore, to me it feels like it's a convenient excuse for him to keep his image. He doesn't want to enter the tournament not being the clear favourite he was before. He hasn't had a positive record against Snow, Best, Mini and especially Light since coming back. That leaves him in the spot of "just one of the top Terrans" - not the undisputed goat player. Rather keep the image of "he can win when he wants" than being just one of the contenders.

It's a bit like Rain with his laid back preparation in ASL to keep the image of "the most talented Protoss, if he puts in the effort and stops playing League he'd win another ASL and become a Protoss bonjwa"

spets1
Profile Joined November 2009
57 Posts
July 02 2025 09:35 GMT
#15
Noooooooo, wire up some robotic wrists or something

Fml
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4188 Posts
July 02 2025 10:14 GMT
#16
Bummer.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1762 Posts
July 02 2025 10:18 GMT
#17
It does strike me as weird that he says he doesn't want to compete because of his wrist pain and that he says it while playing BW, which would be the cause for his pain?
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TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2692 Posts
July 02 2025 10:43 GMT
#18
Yeah he played 20 games vs Soma over the two days after Soma's return. He's been playing the amount of games any ASL player would play normally.

Plus he was playing regularly before his military service, ASL and online. Then he was absent for 4 years. If anything his wirst should get better, not worse. And if it does get worse, why is he still playing online, chinese ultimate battle, proleagues etc.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4987 Posts
July 02 2025 11:30 GMT
#19
On July 02 2025 18:26 TMNT wrote:
Yes I'm with Bonyth on this one. While it's a valid reason to not compete anymore, to me it feels like it's a convenient excuse for him to keep his image. He doesn't want to enter the tournament not being the clear favourite he was before. He hasn't had a positive record against Snow, Best, Mini and especially Light since coming back. That leaves him in the spot of "just one of the top Terrans" - not the undisputed goat player. Rather keep the image of "he can win when he wants" than being just one of the contenders.

It's a bit like Rain with his laid back preparation in ASL to keep the image of "the most talented Protoss, if he puts in the effort and stops playing League he'd win another ASL and become a Protoss bonjwa"


That Rain analogy is unreasonably stretching it lol. It would look great on Flash if he can blantantly admit he doesn't like his current odds to seal the deal, instead of playing just the injury card. But he doesn't have to create a memory like Nada in MSL 2009 if he doesn't want to, especially if it would mean destroying his wrist even further...

...Ironically Flash is clicking and drag boxing like crazy whilst just watching a game while citing his excuse to retire from ASL, so what it's worth I'd love to see Flash destroy his wrist even further to get a few Silver medals and thennnnn another gold.
FBH #1!
zelevin
Profile Joined January 2012
United States259 Posts
July 02 2025 12:31 GMT
#20
Wow everyone loves making these character judgments. Flash can take a day off from streaming if he needs to without stress. He can't take a day off practicing for ASL without stressing out about it.
Another case of people saying, "nah I know what flash is really thinking!" Because they watched a few games and a translated video lol just take the guy at his word. What he says makes sense.
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