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On July 17 2025 22:41 TMNT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2025 20:00 mtcn77 wrote:On July 17 2025 18:10 TMNT wrote:On July 17 2025 10:45 mtcn77 wrote:
I kinda wonder, since we can't even agree on this, whether any victory, or failure of flash really mattered in the eyes of his fans. After all, it looks like nothing matters, seeing what the callous trolls write about flash having to compete even in injured state. Damn, even I recall flash was joking with larva how little he won from starcraft compared to the crypto scam. Looks like it is his only stream of income, or so the uninformed TMNT thinks. Are you saying that we're implying that Flash has to play ASL for money? Nice strawman, as no one ever said that. Which brings us back to the financial point Eon made ealier: On July 17 2025 05:34 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
But the issue here is that Starcraft is actually flash way to earn income. So stopping playing in proleagues etc is actually a financial hit for him. Is not like in real sports that he can just retire and do interviews or promos and make a living lol.
Basically playing 2-3 games of proleague and with the right team at the end of the journey he can earn a lot of money.
Didnt he say after coming back that he was actually the one getting scammed from the crypto runner and they are going to court and shit ? im pretty sure he mention about money issues. Are you really painting the picture that an injury-struck Flash has to grind some proleague games through pain just to stay away from being broke, aka NeedMoneyFlash? Flash is probably financially set for life even after coingate. And if he wants to get money from the SC scene, there's the cash cow that is University league right there where the coaches don't even have to play to earn shit load. Plus, with his skills he can probably sleepwalk into Ro16 ASL without any serious practice, and earn some extra money off ASL and even much more from the ensuing donation streams. And then you also have the factual evidence: only ~100 out of the almost 500 games Flash has played in the past year are from Proleagues. So if the financial incentive from Proleague is the driving force for Flash to "play through pain", why would he play the other 400 games? Right, why does he have to play? You aren't making any sense, if at all. For money? No he doesn't have to. I'm not sure what your point is. You're the one who isn't making any sense. But once again, you have never made any sense in your entire existence on this forum.
Not sure what my point is? Why are you arguing when there is no point? He can choose to compete or not. Stop trolling.
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On July 17 2025 22:48 mtcn77 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2025 22:41 TMNT wrote:On July 17 2025 20:00 mtcn77 wrote:On July 17 2025 18:10 TMNT wrote:On July 17 2025 10:45 mtcn77 wrote:
I kinda wonder, since we can't even agree on this, whether any victory, or failure of flash really mattered in the eyes of his fans. After all, it looks like nothing matters, seeing what the callous trolls write about flash having to compete even in injured state. Damn, even I recall flash was joking with larva how little he won from starcraft compared to the crypto scam. Looks like it is his only stream of income, or so the uninformed TMNT thinks. Are you saying that we're implying that Flash has to play ASL for money? Nice strawman, as no one ever said that. Which brings us back to the financial point Eon made ealier: On July 17 2025 05:34 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
But the issue here is that Starcraft is actually flash way to earn income. So stopping playing in proleagues etc is actually a financial hit for him. Is not like in real sports that he can just retire and do interviews or promos and make a living lol.
Basically playing 2-3 games of proleague and with the right team at the end of the journey he can earn a lot of money.
Didnt he say after coming back that he was actually the one getting scammed from the crypto runner and they are going to court and shit ? im pretty sure he mention about money issues. Are you really painting the picture that an injury-struck Flash has to grind some proleague games through pain just to stay away from being broke, aka NeedMoneyFlash? Flash is probably financially set for life even after coingate. And if he wants to get money from the SC scene, there's the cash cow that is University league right there where the coaches don't even have to play to earn shit load. Plus, with his skills he can probably sleepwalk into Ro16 ASL without any serious practice, and earn some extra money off ASL and even much more from the ensuing donation streams. And then you also have the factual evidence: only ~100 out of the almost 500 games Flash has played in the past year are from Proleagues. So if the financial incentive from Proleague is the driving force for Flash to "play through pain", why would he play the other 400 games? Right, why does he have to play? You aren't making any sense, if at all. For money? No he doesn't have to. I'm not sure what your point is. You're the one who isn't making any sense. But once again, you have never made any sense in your entire existence on this forum. Not sure what my point is? Why are you arguing when there is no point? He can choose to compete or not. Stop trolling.
You're the biggest troll on this forum sir.
Yes he can choose to compete or not. But we can interpret the reason behind his decision to not compete offline, but still compete online.
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On July 17 2025 22:54 TMNT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2025 22:48 mtcn77 wrote:On July 17 2025 22:41 TMNT wrote:On July 17 2025 20:00 mtcn77 wrote:On July 17 2025 18:10 TMNT wrote:On July 17 2025 10:45 mtcn77 wrote:
I kinda wonder, since we can't even agree on this, whether any victory, or failure of flash really mattered in the eyes of his fans. After all, it looks like nothing matters, seeing what the callous trolls write about flash having to compete even in injured state. Damn, even I recall flash was joking with larva how little he won from starcraft compared to the crypto scam. Looks like it is his only stream of income, or so the uninformed TMNT thinks. Are you saying that we're implying that Flash has to play ASL for money? Nice strawman, as no one ever said that. Which brings us back to the financial point Eon made ealier: On July 17 2025 05:34 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
But the issue here is that Starcraft is actually flash way to earn income. So stopping playing in proleagues etc is actually a financial hit for him. Is not like in real sports that he can just retire and do interviews or promos and make a living lol.
Basically playing 2-3 games of proleague and with the right team at the end of the journey he can earn a lot of money.
Didnt he say after coming back that he was actually the one getting scammed from the crypto runner and they are going to court and shit ? im pretty sure he mention about money issues. Are you really painting the picture that an injury-struck Flash has to grind some proleague games through pain just to stay away from being broke, aka NeedMoneyFlash? Flash is probably financially set for life even after coingate. And if he wants to get money from the SC scene, there's the cash cow that is University league right there where the coaches don't even have to play to earn shit load. Plus, with his skills he can probably sleepwalk into Ro16 ASL without any serious practice, and earn some extra money off ASL and even much more from the ensuing donation streams. And then you also have the factual evidence: only ~100 out of the almost 500 games Flash has played in the past year are from Proleagues. So if the financial incentive from Proleague is the driving force for Flash to "play through pain", why would he play the other 400 games? Right, why does he have to play? You aren't making any sense, if at all. For money? No he doesn't have to. I'm not sure what your point is. You're the one who isn't making any sense. But once again, you have never made any sense in your entire existence on this forum. Not sure what my point is? Why are you arguing when there is no point? He can choose to compete or not. Stop trolling. You're the biggest troll on this forum sir. Yes he can choose to compete or not. But we can interpret the reason behind his decision to not compete offline, but still compete online.
How? Literally none of the reasons I described prior knocked you back to your senses. Where do you get the nerve to troll the reason he doesn't compete? Literally nothing you say online makes a difference for real, maybe that is why.
You said he doesn't need the money(although implied it before),
You said he doesn't need the accolades,
You said he has other stuff to do.
It looks like you are arguing only to be an edgelord.
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Did you not read anything since the first page lol?
Maybe if I spin this from this angle, you as a Zerg fan may feel sympathetic enough: if Flash keeps on dodging ASL while citing injuries, some people later may be able to devalue Soulkey's titles, saying he only won because Flash couldn't play.
But anyway, no one in this forum is stupid enough to keep talking to you. Bye.
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On July 17 2025 23:25 TMNT wrote:
But anyway, no one in this forum is stupid enough to keep talking to you. Bye.
Honey, could you not speak to strangers online like you a 14-year old? Otherwise, your mom's gonna change wi-fi password and we don't want that, do we?
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On July 17 2025 20:06 iFU.pauline wrote:
I thought EffOrt did participate in ASL19, being eliminated in the offline qualifier round vs Rush or Speed after a failed hydra rush which really looked like he threw the game intentionally knowing he will certainly lose. I saw the game live and zerg's aka was "effort". So, if someone could clarify.
That is AK_effort, low S ranker on the ladder.
https://cwal.gg/players/gateway/30/player/AK_effort
Effort generally competes on (clantag)_mae or maessaeggi
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On July 17 2025 23:50 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2025 20:06 iFU.pauline wrote:
I thought EffOrt did participate in ASL19, being eliminated in the offline qualifier round vs Rush or Speed after a failed hydra rush which really looked like he threw the game intentionally knowing he will certainly lose. I saw the game live and zerg's aka was "effort". So, if someone could clarify. That is AK_effort, low S ranker on the ladder. https://cwal.gg/players/gateway/30/player/AK_effortEffort generally competes on (clantag)_mae or maessaeggi
I see, that was confusing.
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On July 17 2025 22:54 TMNT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2025 22:48 mtcn77 wrote:On July 17 2025 22:41 TMNT wrote:On July 17 2025 20:00 mtcn77 wrote:On July 17 2025 18:10 TMNT wrote:On July 17 2025 10:45 mtcn77 wrote:
I kinda wonder, since we can't even agree on this, whether any victory, or failure of flash really mattered in the eyes of his fans. After all, it looks like nothing matters, seeing what the callous trolls write about flash having to compete even in injured state. Damn, even I recall flash was joking with larva how little he won from starcraft compared to the crypto scam. Looks like it is his only stream of income, or so the uninformed TMNT thinks. Are you saying that we're implying that Flash has to play ASL for money? Nice strawman, as no one ever said that. Which brings us back to the financial point Eon made ealier: On July 17 2025 05:34 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
But the issue here is that Starcraft is actually flash way to earn income. So stopping playing in proleagues etc is actually a financial hit for him. Is not like in real sports that he can just retire and do interviews or promos and make a living lol.
Basically playing 2-3 games of proleague and with the right team at the end of the journey he can earn a lot of money.
Didnt he say after coming back that he was actually the one getting scammed from the crypto runner and they are going to court and shit ? im pretty sure he mention about money issues. Are you really painting the picture that an injury-struck Flash has to grind some proleague games through pain just to stay away from being broke, aka NeedMoneyFlash? Flash is probably financially set for life even after coingate. And if he wants to get money from the SC scene, there's the cash cow that is University league right there where the coaches don't even have to play to earn shit load. Plus, with his skills he can probably sleepwalk into Ro16 ASL without any serious practice, and earn some extra money off ASL and even much more from the ensuing donation streams. And then you also have the factual evidence: only ~100 out of the almost 500 games Flash has played in the past year are from Proleagues. So if the financial incentive from Proleague is the driving force for Flash to "play through pain", why would he play the other 400 games? Right, why does he have to play? You aren't making any sense, if at all. For money? No he doesn't have to. I'm not sure what your point is. You're the one who isn't making any sense. But once again, you have never made any sense in your entire existence on this forum. Not sure what my point is? Why are you arguing when there is no point? He can choose to compete or not. Stop trolling. You're the biggest troll on this forum sir. Yes he can choose to compete or not. But we can interpret the reason behind his decision to not compete offline, but still compete online. Malaka 
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On July 17 2025 23:41 angryground wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2025 23:25 TMNT wrote:
But anyway, no one in this forum is stupid enough to keep talking to you. Bye.
Honey, could you not speak to strangers online like you a 14-year old? Otherwise, your mom's gonna change wi-fi password and we don't want that, do we?
He's no stranger to most here and you seem like you haven't seen his wonders in this forum recently. You and me are more like strangers to each other and in this case you're talking like a 14yo.
Also it's kind of baffling that for all the bickerings I've done in this forum, the cynicism or insult always comes from the other side first, and I normally always respond calmly in the first few posts, but when they keep doing it and I retaliate, some random dudes from outside just jump in teaching me about manners as if I'm the initial aggressor.
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TMNT on his way to show the stats of all the people that insulted him first LMAO
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On July 18 2025 02:03 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:TMNT on his way to show the stats of all the people that insulted him first LMAO
If absolutely needed. I will.
Exhibit A: me vs you right in this topic.
- My post #107: normal tone
- Your reply #108: unnecessary aggression (as Magic Powers called : ad hominems)
- My reply #111: still normal tone, I chose to ignore your attack
- #113, #115, #117, #120 We argued back and forth in more or less normal tone
- Then #121 you had a wrongful and awful accusation, which prompted me to retaliate in #122 calling you stupid. The matter of fact here is you didn’t understand why the count has to be from June. Had you just asked why, I would have answered respectfully, but since you chose personal attack (because of prejudice, or I don't know, maybe it's just the way you are) I thought it was time to stop being polite. And it can only escalate from there.
If you can learn to have respectful arguments and use a calm tone in your posts (what's with all the CAPS bro?), we would never have to insult each other.
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On July 18 2025 02:50 TMNT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2025 02:03 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:TMNT on his way to show the stats of all the people that insulted him first LMAO If absolutely needed. I will. Exhibit A: me vs you right in this topic. - My post #107: normal tone - Your reply #108: unnecessary aggression (as Magic Powers called : ad hominems) - My reply #111: still normal tone, I chose to ignore your attack - #113, #115, #117, #120 We argued back and forth in more or less normal tone - Then #121 you had a wrongful and awful accusation, which prompted me to retaliate in #122 calling you stupid. The matter of fact here is you didn’t understand why the count has to be from June. Had you just asked why, I would have answered respectfully, but since you chose personal attack (because of prejudice, or I don't know, maybe it's just the way you are) I thought it was time to stop being polite. And it can only escalate from there. If you can learn to have respectful arguments and use a calm tone in your posts (what's with all the CAPS bro?), we would never have to insult each other.
This person admits to insulting other forum members. Why is he not getting an infraction, or a warning?
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On July 18 2025 02:58 mtcn77 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2025 02:50 TMNT wrote:On July 18 2025 02:03 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:TMNT on his way to show the stats of all the people that insulted him first LMAO If absolutely needed. I will. Exhibit A: me vs you right in this topic. - My post #107: normal tone - Your reply #108: unnecessary aggression (as Magic Powers called : ad hominems) - My reply #111: still normal tone, I chose to ignore your attack - #113, #115, #117, #120 We argued back and forth in more or less normal tone - Then #121 you had a wrongful and awful accusation, which prompted me to retaliate in #122 calling you stupid. The matter of fact here is you didn’t understand why the count has to be from June. Had you just asked why, I would have answered respectfully, but since you chose personal attack (because of prejudice, or I don't know, maybe it's just the way you are) I thought it was time to stop being polite. And it can only escalate from there. If you can learn to have respectful arguments and use a calm tone in your posts (what's with all the CAPS bro?), we would never have to insult each other. This person admits to insulting other forum members. Why is he not getting an infraction, or a warning?
because you, eon, magic, tmnt, and a few other blokes would all get infractions for your retrobate behaviour.
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On July 18 2025 03:20 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2025 02:58 mtcn77 wrote:On July 18 2025 02:50 TMNT wrote:On July 18 2025 02:03 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:TMNT on his way to show the stats of all the people that insulted him first LMAO If absolutely needed. I will. Exhibit A: me vs you right in this topic. - My post #107: normal tone - Your reply #108: unnecessary aggression (as Magic Powers called : ad hominems) - My reply #111: still normal tone, I chose to ignore your attack - #113, #115, #117, #120 We argued back and forth in more or less normal tone - Then #121 you had a wrongful and awful accusation, which prompted me to retaliate in #122 calling you stupid. The matter of fact here is you didn’t understand why the count has to be from June. Had you just asked why, I would have answered respectfully, but since you chose personal attack (because of prejudice, or I don't know, maybe it's just the way you are) I thought it was time to stop being polite. And it can only escalate from there. If you can learn to have respectful arguments and use a calm tone in your posts (what's with all the CAPS bro?), we would never have to insult each other. This person admits to insulting other forum members. Why is he not getting an infraction, or a warning? because you, eon, magic, tmnt, and a few other blokes would all get infractions for your retrobate behaviour.
When you get called low iq dumbf*ck and pathetic for telling that FlaSh had 2 surgeries and insane pain so he is avoiding ASL. And the guy doesnt even get a warning
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On July 18 2025 03:20 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2025 02:58 mtcn77 wrote:On July 18 2025 02:50 TMNT wrote:On July 18 2025 02:03 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:TMNT on his way to show the stats of all the people that insulted him first LMAO If absolutely needed. I will. Exhibit A: me vs you right in this topic. - My post #107: normal tone - Your reply #108: unnecessary aggression (as Magic Powers called : ad hominems) - My reply #111: still normal tone, I chose to ignore your attack - #113, #115, #117, #120 We argued back and forth in more or less normal tone - Then #121 you had a wrongful and awful accusation, which prompted me to retaliate in #122 calling you stupid. The matter of fact here is you didn’t understand why the count has to be from June. Had you just asked why, I would have answered respectfully, but since you chose personal attack (because of prejudice, or I don't know, maybe it's just the way you are) I thought it was time to stop being polite. And it can only escalate from there. If you can learn to have respectful arguments and use a calm tone in your posts (what's with all the CAPS bro?), we would never have to insult each other. This person admits to insulting other forum members. Why is he not getting an infraction, or a warning? because you, eon, magic, tmnt, and a few other blokes would all get infractions for your retrobate behaviour.
Also if we banned/timed all of these people out, the forum would be deader than before. So instead, enjoy the popcorn.
Also, backseating modding is a good way to get mod actioned FYI.
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I never thought terrans and protoss players would turn out to be spineless trolls and whiners and zerg players would push the entire scene forward, but you never know... here we are! Glad to be zerg. I always knew we had a few spare iq points you tesagi & 6dragons crowd left behind.
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On July 18 2025 04:23 mtcn77 wrote:
I never thought terrans and protoss players would turn out to be spineless trolls and whiners and zerg players would push the entire scene forward, but you never know... here we are! Glad to be zerg. I always knew we had a few spare iq points you tesagi & 6dragons crowd left behind.
We are truly living in strange times for sure. Where someone is getting surgeries back to back in less than 2 years and we claiming is all fake. He is just afraid to fight Snow/Mini/Best/Light in ASL. You gotta feel for FlaSTW tho. His idol is now a washed scared guy that dodges ASL LOL. Imagine using that nickname atm shiet.
TMNT out of curiosity if FlaSh decides to do an ASL run in 2-3 seasons and we see a glorious return of him dominating everyone. How will you take that ? Will be respectable or just pathetic that he had to skip few seasons ?
Will it have less credit in your eyes ? Genuinely curious about this.
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eonzerg give up man, you are embarassing yourself
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On July 18 2025 03:20 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2025 02:58 mtcn77 wrote:On July 18 2025 02:50 TMNT wrote:On July 18 2025 02:03 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:TMNT on his way to show the stats of all the people that insulted him first LMAO If absolutely needed. I will. Exhibit A: me vs you right in this topic. - My post #107: normal tone - Your reply #108: unnecessary aggression (as Magic Powers called : ad hominems) - My reply #111: still normal tone, I chose to ignore your attack - #113, #115, #117, #120 We argued back and forth in more or less normal tone - Then #121 you had a wrongful and awful accusation, which prompted me to retaliate in #122 calling you stupid. The matter of fact here is you didn’t understand why the count has to be from June. Had you just asked why, I would have answered respectfully, but since you chose personal attack (because of prejudice, or I don't know, maybe it's just the way you are) I thought it was time to stop being polite. And it can only escalate from there. If you can learn to have respectful arguments and use a calm tone in your posts (what's with all the CAPS bro?), we would never have to insult each other. This person admits to insulting other forum members. Why is he not getting an infraction, or a warning? because you, eon, magic, tmnt, and a few other blokes would all get infractions for your retrobate behaviour.
I don't know why I'm getting flack but ok lol. You do you.
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On July 18 2025 04:39 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2025 04:23 mtcn77 wrote:
I never thought terrans and protoss players would turn out to be spineless trolls and whiners and zerg players would push the entire scene forward, but you never know... here we are! Glad to be zerg. I always knew we had a few spare iq points you tesagi & 6dragons crowd left behind. We are truly living in strange times for sure. Where someone is getting surgeries back to back in less than 2 years and we claiming is all fake. He is just afraid to fight Snow/Mini/Best/Light in ASL. You gotta feel for FlaSTW tho. His idol is now a washed scared guy that dodges ASL LOL. Imagine using that nickname atm shiet. TMNT out of curiosity if FlaSh decides to do an ASL run in 2-3 seasons and we see a glorious return of him dominating everyone. How will you take that ? Will be respectable or just pathetic that he had to skip few seasons ? Will it have less credit in your eyes ? Genuinely curious about this.
The insanity is I didn't take him serious when he claimed flash wasn't competing not to acknowledge Soulkey's 4 ASLs. That is why he claims flash isn't competing, just to spite Soulkey.
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