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88)Castle
United States13 Posts
- When do you scout? Earlier/Later? - When are certain strats viable (ex. no vults vs wall? when to use gols? when to fast exp) - How to effectively use and branch off from the basic strats thx in advance to anyone who replies - and please no flames in this topic either to me or anyone who attempts to help me <3 | ||
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PPV_Jimmy
United States641 Posts
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Pseudo_Utopia
Canada827 Posts
I think tvt is simply about firstly preventing the other player from attacking you early. You can do this: By mining the way from his base to yours then going gols, this stops drops too and when you add 2-3 tanks you can expo. You can also prevent him from attacking you by fast siegeing his or your choke, this way he needs drop to get to you so you can go turret+tank+expo. Another thing you can do is to go 2 port wraiths. This will prevent drops but you have to get at least 1 sieged tank quickly or else he can just siege up and kill your wall if he has 1-2 gols. You may choose to go for cloaked wraiths too, this is a good strat if the other guy doesn't have turrets up quickly. To summarize, we can say that 1.Your first goal must be to prevent him from attacking you early, thus earning yourself an expo. 2. Vults are a good opening unless you see fast drop. 3. Tank/Gol--> expo can be good if you secure your choke with tanks asap. 4. You can choose to wall and tech to drop if you want, this will not necessarily earn you an expo (e.g. vs 2 port wraith) but if you can hurt the opponents econ enough it can compensate. I know I haven't covered any late game stuff, basically because Im so tired, but late game is important to drop alot and def your cliffs/min lines while getting many expo. Hope that helped, plz don't complain to me again Marshall  | ||
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HovZ
United States1917 Posts
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
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RickJSanchez
United States1585 Posts
my opinion, msg Hovz and listen to him. he can show up for events and win them. | ||
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Sw1tCh
United States2005 Posts
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baal
10571 Posts
IMO the most secure tech is 2 fact gols and starport, that way you can stop tanks with good micro, and vults with a good amounts of gols and RAPE 2 starport tech, there are several styles of playing, the most known are 2 types, the one who drops and harasses expos and mains to destroy his economy or trying to shut him in his base with the well known siege tanks and across the map the turret wall, or you just can make the gay BCs tech. | ||
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Sadist
United States7326 Posts
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ExCeLYou
Canada43 Posts
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Hades
Canada927 Posts
Against vultures you should get firebats. Firebats do a pretty good job of taking out mines with their splash damage. Against BC tech you should probably expand 3x, protecting each base with 23 turrets and a tank, and go mass 3/3 marines, don't worry about medics too much because if the terran is really good he will micro his BCs to make medics useless. | ||
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HovZ
United States1917 Posts
On August 02 2003 07:40 Hades wrote: If he is going Siege make sure you get stim really quick otherwise your marines will die before getting close enough to kill the tanks. Against vultures you should get firebats. Firebats do a pretty good job of taking out mines with their splash damage. Against BC tech you should probably expand 3x, protecting each base with 23 turrets and a tank, and go mass 3/3 marines, don't worry about medics too much because if the terran is really good he will micro his BCs to make medics useless. ahahahaha, im hoping im right and this is a joke | ||
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Chuiu
3470 Posts
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Shockey
United States2615 Posts
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hasuwar
7365 Posts
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DV8
United States1623 Posts
On August 02 2003 09:38 Shockey wrote: .... TvT is the most straightforward matchup. It makes ZvZ look like a labyrinth with endless possiblities. Shows how much you know about TvT. | ||
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baal
10571 Posts
and ya 2 fact gol and starpot ownz wraiths... and even better, if you are pretty sure your enemy is going 2 star make 3 fact gols, one guy did it to me once and he just trampled over me like i wasnt even there  | ||
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Zaks
Bulgaria73 Posts
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uLti-ScT-
Germany104 Posts
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Nevera
Finland677 Posts
Forget vults. When you think your tvt is solid see if you like them or not. Remember to build a lot of turrets all over the place, this is where you can use your extra mins you allways get. Early game turrets is just about coverage, later maybe not. 2 port wraith is very nice, and risky. If the opponent does it, prepare for hard time with expanding. Don't make too many gols when he goes wraith. If you want your natu, try to turret it fast if he has wraiths. Wall in is not required, but it is still useful. TvT is about where the units are, and that's why drops own. There are allways holes in defence, empty places, find them and put your guys there.  Watch out for fast exp in the 2 empty starting locations, when they are built it's usually too late. Allways be aware, use scanners wisely. | ||
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Muhweli
Finland5328 Posts
On August 02 2003 03:16 PPV_Jimmy wrote: scout always--> early and late, know what your opponent is doing, then you can know what strategy to use to counter it. If your opponent seems to be walled up in there main, and content to stay in there, you can bet they are massing some troops...and so on... Pretty much what you should do in every mu. Scouting is essential. Though I'm not a t player I'd send scout pretty early on. Like 10th scv to scout or something is probably enough. I've seen boxer do dat he uses the scv that finished supply to build up the rax and the scv completing at quite some time (when the supply finishes) to go straight to scout. | ||
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HovZ
United States1917 Posts
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Sadist
United States7326 Posts
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Bl[a]Ze
Canada111 Posts
 . Oh and u sohuld expand to island a lot, islands are very good for getting lots of gas and islands are secure, drop 1 tank and turret the otuside and ur set. cause gas is VERY improtant tvst, u must have a lot in order to build the amount of troops you desire. well, i don t paly terran but i think the info is pretty useful. good luck with it | ||
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esk0
Sweden1393 Posts
i always go 2 fac tanks early contain -> exp or fast exp | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
On August 02 2003 05:15 RickJSanchez wrote: Blackjack, not everyone can see the whole map when they play, so dont bother giving useless info. my opinion, msg Hovz and listen to him. he can show up for events and win them. You are an idiot, let's not forget that you suck. You have never seen me play, you go by what idiots like HovZ and Madcow say because you want to be their friend. | ||
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RickJSanchez
United States1585 Posts
and as for not seeing you play, i guess replays dont count? do i have to see you play in a live game instead of whatching a bunch of your replays? sounds sad, but i admit ive whatched 50+ of your replays, and your pvp=gay. i listen to hovz cuz unlike you he knows how to play and isnt a newb, and fuck madcow, he sucks as well. and for being their friend, i could care less, my name isnt Nero, i dont suck dick to be friends with people over bnet. p.s. sorry nero | ||
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x[ReaPeR]x
United States3447 Posts
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midwich
United Kingdom324 Posts
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iNcontroL88
32 Posts
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HovZ
United States1917 Posts
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Sadist
United States7326 Posts
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
On August 03 2003 00:18 RickJSanchez wrote: sigh, lets not forget that YOU SUCK blackjack, with your hacks, your game isnt even good, and when someone else hacks like in that game yesterday, you cant keep up, i think you get all tipsy in your head. and as for not seeing you play, i guess replays dont count? do i have to see you play in a live game instead of whatching a bunch of your replays? sounds sad, but i admit ive whatched 50+ of your replays, and your pvp=gay. i listen to hovz cuz unlike you he knows how to play and isnt a newb, and fuck madcow, he sucks as well. and for being their friend, i could care less, my name isnt Nero, i dont suck dick to be friends with people over bnet. p.s. sorry nero Sorry to tell you this, but a Newbie's opinion doesn't hurt me. We will see at the final Tourney for TLT when YOU CANT HACK who is better. Oh wait.. I'm sorry.. I forgot you suck too much to get into the final tourney. I don't play PvP anymore but my PvP would still own yours anyday. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
On August 02 2003 19:07 Sadist wrote: if i go 2 port and scout your 2 fact gol drop ill add a machine shop to my factory and have a tank or 2 when u drop so your d ship and gols will get owned =\ the whole point of 2 port is to counter gol drop so u can expand then contain the other terran asap you could add a control tower and get cloak before gol drop comes | ||
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HovZ
United States1917 Posts
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