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Who's the THIRD best Brood War player of all time?

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LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1466 Posts
December 18 2022 11:28 GMT
#1
This title was tough with the 50 characters max let me tell ya! ^_._^

Should we be nice to Protoss and give em number 3 at least? ; D
ko-fi.com/luckynoob
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4208 Posts
December 18 2022 12:36 GMT
#2
NaDa imo

maybe iloveoov
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2277 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-12-18 13:05:15
December 18 2022 13:02 GMT
#3
jaedong/savior

#1 protoss (aka bisu) is arround 6 or 7 imo.
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2842 Posts
December 18 2022 13:41 GMT
#4
How can we decide this when we haven't been able to decide who's the second yet
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1466 Posts
December 18 2022 13:45 GMT
#5
On December 18 2022 22:41 TMNT wrote:
How can we decide this when we haven't been able to decide who's the second yet


So true! I mean I think it's clearly Flash. First place would be the eventual AI takeover.
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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5132 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-12-18 16:56:43
December 18 2022 16:41 GMT
#6
On December 18 2022 22:41 TMNT wrote:
How can we decide this when we haven't been able to decide who's the second yet

[image loading]

The poll result very clearly shows JD as favorite for 2nd best.

I counted/gauged the votes in the thread of people who bothered enough about the poll to write in the thread and there JD is also the favorite (by 1 over Nada) with Boxer/Savior as tied 3rd (if I recall correctly). I counted about a week ago and didn't feel like bumping the thread again, but it was like 19 JD vs 18 Nada.

From those people that bothered to post in previous thread it is clear Nada should be 3rd, but if you look at the poll this should be about Boxer vs Nada? Since the original poll was on TL's main page, one can argue SC2 fans with little to no knowledge about BW skewed the poll in favor of JD...

This all calls for a new poll to vote 3rd best, but OP rather be clowning
FBH #1!
CHEONSOYUN
Profile Joined August 2017
536 Posts
December 18 2022 17:02 GMT
#7
it’s Jaedong (3rd) not enough people were around to appreciate or understand why Nada was so good.
JAEDONG...!!! EFFORT IS ANGRY. ZERG...?!
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
December 18 2022 17:09 GMT
#8
1. FanTaSy
2. FlaSh
3. Jaedong

Don't @ me
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
December 18 2022 17:52 GMT
#9
Bisu is clearly #3 in my mind.

Only other players I would give a slot to here are effort and Julyzerg
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8292 Posts
December 18 2022 18:22 GMT
#10
My baby JD is clearly second!
I have 3 pick for 3rd place: Bisu , Fantasy and Effort..

I rank Nada and Rain very high in terms of pure talent.

Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8292 Posts
December 18 2022 18:32 GMT
#11
I thought about which players are good at a specific thing, like early game , micro , macro or one unit control
Here it is:

wraiths: Leta
reavers: Snow
dts: Bisu
carriers: Stork
macro: Best and OOV
vulture harassing: Fantasy
Muta control: JD
lings control: JD and Kwanro
early game: Mini (probably the best ever at early game)
game plan and execution: Flash
defiler: savior
m&m micro: Boxer (he still has it!)
good effective APM: soulkey
Very high APM(unfortunately not so effcient): Hyuk
Nice building placemen: Horang2

the most handsome: JD
the best chef: JD
the most talented at singing and dancing: JD

Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1466 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-12-18 20:22:54
December 18 2022 20:17 GMT
#12
On December 19 2022 01:41 Peeano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2022 22:41 TMNT wrote:
How can we decide this when we haven't been able to decide who's the second yet

[image loading]

The poll result very clearly shows JD as favorite for 2nd best.

I counted/gauged the votes in the thread of people who bothered enough about the poll to write in the thread and there JD is also the favorite (by 1 over Nada) with Boxer/Savior as tied 3rd (if I recall correctly). I counted about a week ago and didn't feel like bumping the thread again, but it was like 19 JD vs 18 Nada.

From those people that bothered to post in previous thread it is clear Nada should be 3rd, but if you look at the poll this should be about Boxer vs Nada? Since the original poll was on TL's main page, one can argue SC2 fans with little to no knowledge about BW skewed the poll in favor of JD...

This all calls for a new poll to vote 3rd best, but OP rather be clowning


Polls restrict options thus shaping and constraining people's opinions unless ALL possible options are included in the poll (and all answers are presented equally which is impossible). Since there are no criteria we've agreed to judge by threads are a much better way to express one's opinion. If people want to say Artosis is greatest BW player they have the right to do so!
ko-fi.com/luckynoob
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1466 Posts
December 18 2022 20:19 GMT
#13
On December 19 2022 03:32 prosatan wrote:
I thought about which players are good at a specific thing, like early game , micro , macro or one unit control
Here it is:

wraiths: Leta
reavers: Snow
dts: Bisu
carriers: Stork
macro: Best and OOV
vulture harassing: Fantasy
Muta control: JD
lings control: JD and Kwanro
early game: Mini (probably the best ever at early game)
game plan and execution: Flash
defiler: savior
m&m micro: Boxer (he still has it!)
good effective APM: soulkey
Very high APM(unfortunately not so effcient): Hyuk
Nice building placemen: Horang2

the most handsome: JD
the best chef: JD
the most talented at singing and dancing: JD



Now THIS comment is much closer to the truth! You sure you are Protoss? kek
ko-fi.com/luckynoob
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1466 Posts
December 18 2022 20:21 GMT
#14
On December 18 2022 22:02 XenOsky wrote:
jaedong/savior

#1 protoss (aka bisu) is arround 6 or 7 imo.


Harsh!
ko-fi.com/luckynoob
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3615 Posts
December 18 2022 20:26 GMT
#15
If we're postulating 1. Flash 2. Jaedong there's a certain elegance to rounding out with 3. Bisu, but a list that's put Jaedong second really is building into more of a peak skill list (at minimum a peak-of-era list), and I think that would have to go to Nada.

Or it's an intimidation factor list, and you could make a strong argument for any of half a dozen players - Bisu, July, Nada, oov, Boxer, and savior.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8292 Posts
December 18 2022 21:11 GMT
#16
On December 19 2022 05:19 LUCKY_NOOB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2022 03:32 prosatan wrote:
I thought about which players are good at a specific thing, like early game , micro , macro or one unit control
Here it is:

wraiths: Leta
reavers: Snow
dts: Bisu
carriers: Stork
macro: Best and OOV
vulture harassing: Fantasy
Muta control: JD
lings control: JD and Kwanro
early game: Mini (probably the best ever at early game)
game plan and execution: Flash
defiler: savior
m&m micro: Boxer (he still has it!)
good effective APM: soulkey
Very high APM(unfortunately not so effcient): Hyuk
Nice building placemen: Horang2

the most handsome: JD
the best chef: JD
the most talented at singing and dancing: JD



Now THIS comment is much closer to the truth! You sure you are Protoss? kek

yesss ! Protoss FTW!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-12-19 03:38:39
December 19 2022 03:35 GMT
#17
There would be no terran without the Emperor, there would be no FlaSh without BoxeR on television. You guys should read "Crazy As Me" to understand why Lim Yo Hwan is one of the greatest progamers.

https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/46384-boxers-biography-crazy-as-me
https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/288614-boxers-autobio-crazy-as-mepdf-for-kindle-3
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1urw5e/lim_yohwans_boxer_autobiography_crazy_as_me/ (download here book if links are broken)
sunbeams are never made like me...
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
December 19 2022 14:46 GMT
#18
Terms aren't defined.

3rd best peak skill?

3rd best in terms of accomplishments?

3rd best in terms of accomplishments weighted based on estimated depth of talent?

etc.

The answers to each question are quite different.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Marl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States692 Posts
December 19 2022 15:26 GMT
#19
On December 19 2022 03:32 prosatan wrote:
I thought about which players are good at a specific thing, like early game , micro , macro or one unit control
Here it is:

wraiths: Leta
reavers: Snow
dts: Bisu
carriers: Stork
macro: Best and OOV
vulture harassing: Fantasy
Muta control: JD
lings control: JD and Kwanro
early game: Mini (probably the best ever at early game)
game plan and execution: Flash
defiler: savior
m&m micro: Boxer (he still has it!)
good effective APM: soulkey
Very high APM(unfortunately not so effcient): Hyuk
Nice building placemen: Horang2

the most handsome: JD
the best chef: JD
the most talented at singing and dancing: JD


storms: jangbi
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
December 19 2022 15:38 GMT
#20
1. Flash
2. NaDa
3. Jeadong


(truth)
hatred outlives the hateful
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