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Askur1337
Profile Joined December 2020
4 Posts
March 06 2021 06:14 GMT
#441
Uff... Not sure if I'll keep following it now. I was just learning how it works. I don't think I can support it anymore now.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
March 06 2021 10:10 GMT
#442
On March 06 2021 04:46 XenOsky wrote:
no asl in english, we will be fine, we have seen worse things happen.

asl is not even that fun of an event to be honest, casual fans like it a lot tho.

What is a better event than ASL? I'll be interested in watching it too
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appcer999
Profile Joined March 2020
4 Posts
March 06 2021 12:43 GMT
#443
I hope Tastosis figure out a way to cast it, happy to make donation to them
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5221 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-06 16:59:40
March 06 2021 16:49 GMT
#444
It has become obvious to me that the community needs to own the game.

Like basketball, no one owns basketball, anyone can play, anyone can setup an event, ect... events can be put on with the advertising fees going to pay the casters and players.

Businesses are looking to make a quick profit and move to the next big thing. Doesn't matter if it is MLG, GomTV, ASL, Blizzard, Activision whatever. There are people who would make Commander content for Starcraft II for free. Or they could be subsidized with small fees for their content.

I know some people think this game is dead. Good games never die, though at some point, every good game becomes like Chess, where companies can't make as much money with them than they could with the next big thing. No single entity owns Chess... we all do, and people still get paid to play it and Chess boards sell.

The community needs to own Starcraft, or build it's own game.
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2106 Posts
March 06 2021 17:18 GMT
#445
have you heard of IP rights?
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BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5221 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-06 17:21:58
March 06 2021 17:19 GMT
#446
Of course.

Not sure why that passive aggressive comment was necessary. It was implied in my writing that if the community can't get the game in the public domain like Chess, the community needs to build one that is.
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1259 Posts
March 06 2021 17:42 GMT
#447
Activision will never let go.

Only way that could happen is the company drastically changes or enough times goes by that no one gives a shit anymore about the SC franchise. Both of which are unlikely.
Crateros
Profile Joined February 2021
19 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-06 17:51:41
March 06 2021 17:49 GMT
#448
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BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5221 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-06 18:14:40
March 06 2021 18:11 GMT
#449
On March 07 2021 02:49 Crateros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2021 01:49 BronzeKnee wrote:
It has become obvious to me that the community needs to own the game.

Like basketball, no one owns basketball, anyone can play, anyone can setup an event, ect... events can be put on with the advertising fees going to pay the casters and players.

Businesses are looking to make a quick profit and move to the next big thing. Doesn't matter if it is MLG, GomTV, ASL, Blizzard, Activision whatever. There are people who would make Commander content for Starcraft II for free. Or they could be subsidized with small fees for their content.

I know some people think this game is dead. Good games never die, though at some point, every good game becomes like Chess, where companies can't make as much money with them than they could with the next big thing. No single entity owns Chess... we all do, and people still get paid to play it and Chess boards sell.

The community needs to own Starcraft, or build it's own game.

What the fuck does this have to do with Afreeca not having an English Broadcast?

"The Community needs to own Starcraft". Yeah, that one Hivemind of a communtiy


You seem pretty upset with me or negative in general with that tone, I'm just a random guy on the internet, don't let me get to you. Someday you'll be happy again.

To directly answer: there is a desire for an English broadcast of professional Broodwar games. Companies that put profits over the game make satiating that desire difficult.

If the game was in the public domain, like basketball/Chess, we could have organizations run tournaments indefinitely, without fear of any profit driven company shutting the whole thing down.
Crateros
Profile Joined February 2021
19 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-06 18:16:57
March 06 2021 18:14 GMT
#450
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BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5221 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-06 18:26:25
March 06 2021 18:21 GMT
#451
That is not true sadly... you can't just fire one up without Blizzard's consent and without giving them their cut. If the game was in the public domain you could. Like Chess and basketball...

https://communitytournaments.blizzardesports.com/en-us/

Facts matter man. Do your homework. I'm just repeating myself because you haven't read/understood my initial post in regards to comparing Stacraft to Chess and basketball.

I'm not here to convince you, just here to tell you I was convinced. I don't really care if your not convinced, and even though it seems to be apparent since your engaging in this discussion that you care about me being convinced, your arguments aren't swaying me because you haven't done your homework.
Crateros
Profile Joined February 2021
19 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-06 18:24:40
March 06 2021 18:24 GMT
#452
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BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5221 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-06 18:30:12
March 06 2021 18:27 GMT
#453
Anyone can get a license, but the restrictions inherent in the licenses themselves, if you read the license, make it extremely difficult to monetize it and create an organization without giving Blizzard a big chunk.

Read the licenses. Here is just a snippet:

On Site Audiences.

You may not charge fees of any kind for spectators to watch the competition in-person.


Hit the books man.
Marl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States694 Posts
March 06 2021 19:31 GMT
#454
blizzard/activision.. twitch/amazon.. absolutely no morality other than profit-making.
Crateros
Profile Joined February 2021
19 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-06 20:13:02
March 06 2021 20:02 GMT
#455
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Crateros
Profile Joined February 2021
19 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-06 20:44:10
March 06 2021 20:10 GMT
#456
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tommey.liang
Profile Joined November 2020
United States363 Posts
March 06 2021 20:43 GMT
#457
Wow so sad; what a heck of a transition.
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DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
March 06 2021 22:25 GMT
#458
A sad day for our SC Remaster brethren .
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oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1259 Posts
March 07 2021 00:04 GMT
#459
On March 07 2021 05:10 Crateros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2021 03:27 BronzeKnee wrote:
Anyone can get a license, but the restrictions inherent in the licenses themselves, if you read the license, make it extremely difficult to monetize it and create an organization without giving Blizzard a big chunk.

Read the licenses. Here is just a snippet:

On Site Audiences.

You may not charge fees of any kind for spectators to watch the competition in-person.


Hit the books man.

A big chunk? How much? How much is Dreamhack/ESL paying for every tournament? How is it even possible that they dont write big red numbers on Starcraft and Warcraft? Or how is it possible that Take organizes all those Homestory Cups? Wardi/Basetrade and who not keep on throwing tournaments. Have you guys heard them say:"But we have to pay Blizzard too much, we cant create the tournaments...."


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On March 07 2021 04:31 Marl wrote:
blizzard/activision.. twitch/amazon.. absolutely no morality other than profit-making.

What did they do?

Still not sure where this comes from. When was the last they FORCED PAYWALLED you guys? I guess when they charged money for Remastered, greedy bastards!


You're being childish.

It is wildly known that Blizzard actively tried to kill the SC1 scene in Korea in favor of SC2 before Remastered came out.

The first move they did to support Remastered when it came out was to charge Afreeca a ridiculous sum of money (some say close to the actual costs to even hold the tournament) for a tournament license.




FusionCutter
Profile Joined October 2004
Canada974 Posts
March 07 2021 00:11 GMT
#460
It's like no one even considered things from another point of view, it could be very possible they had perfectly valid reasons to do this.
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