EPTHowever, that's just more reason why apm is a useless metric to organize this based on. Protoss on BGH can be played at a fairly high level with very low apm, and I see zergs with 250 that seem pretty terrible.
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28553 Posts
However, that's just more reason why apm is a useless metric to organize this based on. Protoss on BGH can be played at a fairly high level with very low apm, and I see zergs with 250 that seem pretty terrible. | ||
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Deleted User 556753
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Qvark
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D3AD-R3TARD
Poland288 Posts
On September 24 2021 04:33 IAMTHEONEO wrote: Trismagic is obviously working together with lexxi, just as he did it before as Trismegist with different ally accounts. I just noticed him joining games and leaving before or just after start, if lexxi not in there or lexxi being in the same team like him. He only stays in game, when lexxi is on other team. Probably just to do the same teamkilling abusing shit like in the past. His recent 7 games all show him being in the winning team and lexxi in the losing team, losing tons of points, as he had only 1/10 in points in the games he played, as every other player. Just check his recent games on the bghmmr page. http://bghmmr.eu/player.php?player=Trismagic e.g. those 3 games in a row: http://bghmmr.eu/replayInfo/20210920/193212,(8)Big Game Hunters.jpg http://bghmmr.eu/replayInfo/20210919/135500,! (8) Big Game Hunters.jpg http://bghmmr.eu/replayInfo/20210919/121321,! (8) Big Game Hunters.jpg And yeah, his account name is Trismegist, just looked it up in the channel he is in (Brood War En-1)... should be well enough for another ban imo I've looked into it and I don't see a clear pattern of switching between users. Also, both players have many games without each other. So I'm not sure. I however banned lexxi for repeated game quitting without any reason. On September 24 2021 06:09 MAVERICK2 wrote: If you want to make a really good balance just put APM border the same way like +50 games to play bgh Mmr ! | For example, 90% of the players with 60-90 APM just ruing the game if in the game 5 of 6 players are with 150AMP or higher. You must agree that with apm 60-90 your movement are just on slow-motion like hell.. So i suggest and highly recommend : 1.Make a bot for beginners LESS THAN 50 games and lower than 150APM 2. Bot for semi-pro/pro players +50 games and higher than 150- APM Someone will say : AMP is not a factor but is if someone shows me a really good player with a lower of 150apm I will give him 100$ :D ! Think about it and make it happen! Ps If some of the bosses of Broodwar read this message, please at the end of every season make a prize for the best 4 ranked players ! Im sure for Blizzard with billions net worth is nothing to play for example 10k - 20k every season for the best players! Make this game GREAT AGAIN :D :D :D The league division was discussed here before many times and the main thing is - there aren't enough players to divide league into many fractions. There are D+ and C+ games, but only sometimes. APM is not a good indicator of players performance. I think that current MMR number reflects players ability much better. There are A players with less than 100 APM and E players with over 220APM. On September 24 2021 16:24 MeSaber wrote: How is EAPM calculated? Does it use the same formula as BWChart? Ive seen EAPM above 270 while having 300 APM from ingame screen, thats why i ask. That just seems impossible without spam xD It's pretty much APM without initial spamming. It's not anything sophisticated. | ||
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badbeatpete
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On September 26 2021 21:05 D3AD-R3TARD wrote: I've looked into it and I don't see a clear pattern of switching between users. Also, both players have many games without each other. So I'm not sure. I however banned lexxi for repeated game quitting without any reason. I remember playing with lexxi several months ago on the ladder so it isn't just some dummy account Trist is using to abuse with. However, if you look at each players' APM in recent games that they both play together and then compare to games that they play separately, it is very clear what is going on. Trist APM w/o lexxi: 130-170 lexxi APM w/o Trist: 150-200 Trist APM with lexxi: 100-110 lexxi APM with Trist: 20-40 Trist wins virtually every game that he plays with lexxi on the opposing team. So while he isn't outright using the lexxi account to teamkill with, he is most likely being lent the account to cheat in a similar way as before. Edit: I just discovered that if you search for 'lexxi' with an L, it will bring you to the real lexxi's account. However, if you click on 'lexxi' through one of Tris's match history games, it will bring you to a fake 'lexxi' account, one that he is using to impersonate the real player. | ||
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kurrrak
Poland105 Posts
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badbeatpete
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On September 27 2021 00:28 kurrrak wrote: There's also user called iexxi, with capital "i". Yeah I just checked, iexxi is the one that is "playing" with Tris. Very confident that this is Tris's dummy account that he is trying to pose as another real player. | ||
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kurrrak
Poland105 Posts
On September 27 2021 00:31 badbeatpete wrote: Yeah I just checked, iexxi is the one that is "playing" with Tris. Very confident that this is Tris's dummy account that he is trying to pose as another real player. Looks like he does this from time to time, to boost his MMR a bit. Tries to be obscure about it, but the pattern becomes clear when he goes "Iexxi run": ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/Hxd6tDL.png) | ||
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Deleted User 556753
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And yeah, seems about right what was written above, its iexxi, not lexxi. Shows even more what a piece of shit this guy is when he now tries to abuse other real players' names... | ||
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KraMniK
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please, have the user named Savageboy banned. He regularly quits in the first 5 minutes for no reason at all. screwing up every game. All people reading this forum will confirm this. btw I take the chance to thank you for keeping the bot up and running ! Always been a fan of it, cheers. | ||
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kurrrak
Poland105 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/wPNNl4q.png) IIIIllllIIlll doesn't seem to have problem with keeping high APM while playing alone. Trismagic though makes it really hard for IIIIllllIIlll to keep APM above 50. ;] | ||
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Deleted User 556753
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There is always a guy in the other team with almost no apm and almost no points. A few days ago it was "iexxi", now its some "ililililil" combination (with capital i). I mean, it's up to you in the end, but it's really a waste of time to discussing this shit one more second. As I wrote a few days ago, it's 100% obvious that some abusive shit is going on there once again. | ||
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D3AD-R3TARD
Poland288 Posts
On September 30 2021 06:48 KraMniK wrote: BAN REQUEST please, have the user named Savageboy banned. He regularly quits in the first 5 minutes for no reason at all. screwing up every game. All people reading this forum will confirm this. btw I take the chance to thank you for keeping the bot up and running ! Always been a fan of it, cheers. I've looked into Savageboy's games and I don't see a pattern of constant quitting. His win ratio is about 50% and his game points are what you would expect from E player. Maybe you had bad experience playing with him, but totality of his games doesn't show disruptive behavior. BTW. I've banned Trismagic for repeated pattern of boosting. | ||
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Rosettenzerrung
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He is not a good player. But that's not a problem. I am only average myself. But it's very annoying because he leaves games for no reason at all, even though we're clearly dominating as a team and probably winning. Furthermore, he constantly offends his team mates in a real bad mannered way. So far, he has destroyed every game in which I was on his team. | ||
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rjay1
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Deleted User 556753
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On October 08 2021 05:22 Rosettenzerrung wrote: I don't play with savageboy anymore. He is not a good player. But that's not a problem. I am only average myself. But it's very annoying because he leaves games for no reason at all, even though we're clearly dominating as a team and probably winning. Furthermore, he constantly offends his team mates in a real bad mannered way. So far, he has destroyed every game in which I was on his team. True, and unfortunately, there are tons of people behaving like that. My personal blacklist grows day by day. | ||
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MeSaber
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MeSaber
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Replay: https://www.file.io/download/gmhqGuoP8jXX Leaves some mins into game where he says he got bad allies. "Noob ally acc" is his name.. eeeeeeh? "BarrackObama" in the same game calling someone a nig probably isnt that good either. I report both then for ill behaviour. http://bghmmr.eu/player.php?player=BarrackObama I know youve said you cant ban because there isnt a game recorded but yeah thats a big issue, maybe you should have a recording of all games that start so you know they happened and things like this can be reported. Those games doesnt have to be public for everyone else than the Admin though. | ||
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D3AD-R3TARD
Poland288 Posts
On October 08 2021 05:22 Rosettenzerrung wrote: I don't play with savageboy anymore. He is not a good player. But that's not a problem. I am only average myself. But it's very annoying because he leaves games for no reason at all, even though we're clearly dominating as a team and probably winning. Furthermore, he constantly offends his team mates in a real bad mannered way. So far, he has destroyed every game in which I was on his team. I don't think savageboy is leaving all the games as his win ratio is bigger than 50% but I get that allies who leave without trying to win is frustrating. I hate this as well. The problem is I can't think of a way to automate banning for leaving the game too early. It's impossible to determine if a game is winnable on the basis of replay alone. It would still be difficult even with all the game data. So for now I won't add leaving the game as ban reason. Unless there is clear pattern of repetitive leaving the game after 3 min mark. On October 14 2021 05:13 IAMTHEONEO wrote: can you make the bot ban lag players? I mean, the bot even recognized it ("player xyz please fix lag", but doesn't do anything against it, just starts the game with red players still in... just right now, there's again a guy who lags badly, and joins everygame again, after everyone leave after 1min, seeing it's unplayable... Yeah, I'll do something about this when I have some time on my hands. On October 14 2021 19:28 MeSaber wrote: http://bghmmr.eu/player.php?player=n00ballyAcc Replay: https://www.file.io/download/gmhqGuoP8jXX Leaves some mins into game where he says he got bad allies. "Noob ally acc" is his name.. eeeeeeh? "BarrackObama" in the same game calling someone a nig probably isnt that good either. I report both then for ill behaviour. http://bghmmr.eu/player.php?player=BarrackObama I know youve said you cant ban because there isnt a game recorded but yeah thats a big issue, maybe you should have a recording of all games that start so you know they happened and things like this can be reported. Those games doesnt have to be public for everyone else than the Admin though. Both in normal game and in this league, you can leave the game at the beginning, and it's a draw. This is not perfect, but not having this would be even more frustrating (lags, AFK, stupid rushes and so on). In BghMmr you have more time, but the rule is basically the same. Now, this guy used that rule. He has the right to do this. I might introduce MMR loss for leaving games before 3 minute mark but for now it is legal action. As for the replays, I have all the games that bot started, and I've confirmed that it happened the way you described. But it is also clear that by leaving early he made this game invalid, so other players just lost some time. No impact on other player's MMR. The reason I ask for links to game from bghmmr.eu is that if I think that it is only fair to ban people for their actions in ranked games. | ||
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