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CadenZie
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)545 Posts
May 09 2018 08:34 GMT
#21
i cant wait to see someone plague a pre-recall stacked army
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2053 Posts
May 09 2018 08:54 GMT
#22
On May 09 2018 17:18 kogeT wrote:
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Shuttle practicing. :D



omg the music/sound effects :D :D :D





For Aiur.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51703 Posts
May 09 2018 08:55 GMT
#23
On May 09 2018 16:10 greenelve wrote:
This is insane. Also i wonder if this is a remaster only bug.


remastered uses the exact same game engine as the original.
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Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
May 09 2018 09:03 GMT
#24
Wow. This is utterly terrifying. I wonder what this is going to do to TvP? I can't see how terrans are going to be able to hold any serious map presence with the constant fear P can drop a 2/3x size recall at home. Either turtle up or keep your base recall-proof with vessels/mines?
Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
941 Posts
May 09 2018 09:11 GMT
#25
Well, Spider Mines were never so needed.
:3
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-09 09:37:01
May 09 2018 09:33 GMT
#26
It looks like it steel needs quite some apm to pull it off.

On May 09 2018 16:10 greenelve wrote:
This is insane. Also i wonder if this is a remaster only bug.


This should be verfied first afaik.

On May 09 2018 17:55 GTR wrote:
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On May 09 2018 16:10 greenelve wrote:
This is insane. Also i wonder if this is a remaster only bug.


remastered uses the exact same game engine as the original.


I respect your opinion but I don't trust it untill I've seen someone do this in 16.1
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-09 09:36:35
May 09 2018 09:34 GMT
#27
edit 2 post
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
May 09 2018 09:41 GMT
#28
even though its supposedly the same engine, i feel like the stacking issue wasnt as severe in 1.16.1.. there definitely was some stacking that could be abused but not to this extent in my opinion :o
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ejac
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1195 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-09 09:54:48
May 09 2018 09:52 GMT
#29
The massive flaw in this, is if you start stacking your goons, and your arbiter gets EMPed/killed, you essentially have 50 or whatever supply of goons dancing in circles on top of each other that will take forever to naturally unstuck themselves. To do this safely, you'd need a safety/backup recall, but at that point, wouldn't it be pretty much just as good to try to recall with two arbiters?
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juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
May 09 2018 10:01 GMT
#30
Inb4 Mini and Snow doom-recall each other 5 games in a row.
Michael Probu
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
May 09 2018 10:11 GMT
#31
AMAZING
The heart's eternal vow
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2053 Posts
May 09 2018 10:11 GMT
#32
Suddenly Bisu's dragoon death tornado has another purpose

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iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4456 Posts
May 09 2018 10:24 GMT
#33
On May 09 2018 17:34 Kare wrote:
If you successfully do one of those recalls into the Terran main, you have literally won the game, because it will take such a long time to clean it up. By the time it is cleared, a new one will come ...

The more units they recall from their base the weaker they are to a direct counter from units clustered at your rallypoint or somewhere else on the map.

Honestly doubt this will see much use but it's an interesting gimmick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2042 Posts
May 09 2018 10:56 GMT
#34
On May 09 2018 19:24 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2018 17:34 Kare wrote:
If you successfully do one of those recalls into the Terran main, you have literally won the game, because it will take such a long time to clean it up. By the time it is cleared, a new one will come ...

The more units they recall from their base the weaker they are to a direct counter from units clustered at your rallypoint or somewhere else on the map.

Honestly doubt this will see much use but it's an interesting gimmick



That is not true. Protoss will have 2-3 "mains" at that time, so the recall will be a killing blow to terran lol. Time to really practice some mid game timings LOL.
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juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-09 11:12:32
May 09 2018 11:11 GMT
#35
Winning the base race while losing your entire production at the same time should be impossible unless P fucks up and stops making units or something. Recalls didn't always win games because there were different scenarios of just how efficiently you traded in T's main. I don't see any way for Ts to be efficient at all with this new trick. Except for a lucky mine hit obviously.
Michael Probu
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
May 09 2018 11:15 GMT
#36
Who are the remaining Protoss in ASL?
I think this is not present in the Original BW (not remastered), otherwise, wow 20 year old game still keeping secrets!
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Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5232 Posts
May 09 2018 11:24 GMT
#37
Stacked protoss units, how lovely :D
Taxes are for Terrans
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2042 Posts
May 09 2018 11:25 GMT
#38
On May 09 2018 20:15 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Who are the remaining Protoss in ASL?
I think this is not present in the Original BW (not remastered), otherwise, wow 20 year old game still keeping secrets!


There are only P left in ASL lol - Mini, Rain, Snow
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2042 Posts
May 09 2018 12:00 GMT
#39
I like how a guy on netwars called that: "Total Recall"
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6642 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-09 12:04:29
May 09 2018 12:04 GMT
#40
This is madness, Terrans are going to need to mine up their bases even harder now to counter this.

On May 09 2018 21:00 kogeT wrote:
I like how a guy on netwars called that: "Total Recall"

I like it, very apt name.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
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