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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-18 22:40:20
April 18 2018 22:39 GMT
#21
You guys do know that Light has a day job right? Or at least he had one until recently and that forces him to play only during the night/weekends or to not play at all.

That said, it is impressive for him to kick ass. I still remember the ATB run. *sheds invisible tears
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Kare
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway786 Posts
April 18 2018 23:02 GMT
#22
On April 19 2018 07:39 c3rberUs wrote:
You guys do know that Light has a day job right? Or at least he had one until recently and that forces him to play only during the night/weekends or to not play at all.

That said, it is impressive for him to kick ass. I still remember the ATB run. *sheds invisible tears


Do you know what kind of job it is?
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radley
Profile Joined August 2008
Poland582 Posts
April 19 2018 00:05 GMT
#23
On April 19 2018 08:02 Kare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2018 07:39 c3rberUs wrote:
You guys do know that Light has a day job right? Or at least he had one until recently and that forces him to play only during the night/weekends or to not play at all.

That said, it is impressive for him to kick ass. I still remember the ATB run. *sheds invisible tears


Do you know what kind of job it is?

Afaik he is working for Manjaedo Lighthouse
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
April 19 2018 00:23 GMT
#24
On April 19 2018 06:17 funnybananaman wrote:
Light is awesome. Could have won 5 OSLS and been so legendary if he was slightly more interested.

You're saying this based on?
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Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-19 07:16:19
April 19 2018 02:27 GMT
#25
On April 19 2018 09:23 Jealous wrote:
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On April 19 2018 06:17 funnybananaman wrote:
Light is awesome. Could have won 5 OSLS and been so legendary if he was slightly more interested.

You're saying this based on?


While that is a gross overstatement of what could have been, there is an argument that players such as HiyA, and Light were "better" (for a lack of a better word) than their results elsewhere showed, especially when time-consuming specific preparation was thrown out of the window.

For example, a typical individual league scheduling allows roughly a week's worth of preparation for a showdown versus a single player, and at worst, three different opponents to play against in a week (for the rare instances of group stages tie-breakers). Even a player with ACE match duties has four players to prepare for (assuming that the opposing team's entries are entirely predictable) in a week's worth of ProLeague schedule.

However, Winner's League made such meticulous preparation an impossibility by forcing the player to prepare for eight different players per week (that is again assuming that the opposing team's entries are entirely predictable) if he is ambitious enough for all-kill performances (I don't think there were cases of players having really good records within the Winner's League without having a single all-kill performance).

The only tournament that forced a player to play versus eight different players (the only case being JangBi, who literally started from the round-of-256 all the way to the finals within a span of three days) within a single week in my memory was the 2007 Seoul e-Sports Festival, a three day single elimination round-of-256 LAN tournament.

Due to how rare such tournaments were within the professional Brood War realm, the only platform that I can think of, that had a decent enough sample size across multiple years, to test a player's ability to flourish despite being given the bare minimum to work with in terms of thorough preparation, was the Winner's league.

All-time Winner's League records:

1. Flash: 66-15 (81.48%)
2. Jaedong: 59-22 (72.84%)
3. Bisu: 54-23 (70.13%)
4. Light: 49-24 (67.12%)
5. HiyA: 46-27 (63.01%)
6. FanTaSy: 43-29 (59.72%)
7. Kal: 34-24 (58.62%)
8. Stork: 31-24 (56.36%)
9. Leta: 29-24 (54.72%)
10. Stats: 28-13 (68.29%)

Light was one of the greatest Winner's League performers, and within the time-frame (January 2009 to April 2011), Flash, Jaedong, and FanTaSy were three of the most sucessful individual league players (where scrupulous planning paid off in dividends). Flash reached six finals, winning four. Jaedong reached six finals, winning three. FanTaSy reached two finals, winning one. No other player managed to reach multiple finals within the above mentioned time-frame.

If you discount Flash and Jaedong as the ultimate outliers who excel no matter what the circumstances entails, there is an argument to be made that if the entirety of the major individual leagues changed their scheduling from lasting roughly three months to three days, like the 2007 Seoul e-Sports Festival, it may be fair to assume that Light would have been one of the best performing players due to his ability to excel without much preparation, and perhaps might have taken FanTaSy's place as the third most successful player within the individual league within the above mentioned time-frame.

I personally don't think Light's lack of success in situations where abundant preparation occured was necessary due to his lack of discipline as a person (people often praised him for being a model professional), rather his flaw as a competitor.

A player who sticks to my mind as a player who severely lacked discipline was HiyA, who was incredibly talented (Jaedong said on stream that he realized life was unfair when he saw HiyA having success despite playing other MMORPGs and slacking off in general), and thrived under situations where minimal preparation was key (top four finish at the Seoul e-Sports Festival after playing seven different opponents within the space of three days, and having a top five record within the Winner's League). However, HiyA lacked drive and discpline to push himself, and only excelled under situations where his lackadaisical approach to professional gaming didn't hold him back severely.

In a world where professional Brood War had less infrastructure, and less television coverage, like in the early 2000s, there would have been much more huge three day LANs and tournaments where painstaking preparation wasn't necessary. In that alternate reality, Light may have been one of the best terran players towards the latter half of professional Brood War.

Of course, sucking dick under situations where everything about your play is broken down, and only succeeding in situations where time for proper preparation is the limiting factor makes somebody one dimensional in nature, and cannot be truly regarded as a transcental great who can adapt to any given situation, rather than being a slave to his circumstances, but Light probably would have found more success if competitive Brood War was handled differently.

However, with Ongamenet's philosophical take on competitive Brood War (as a general rule of thumb, they hate players like Light, and love players like FanTaSy), Light would never have won five OGN StarLeagues unless the tournament organizers decided to play to Light's strengths as a player.
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Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
April 19 2018 04:10 GMT
#26
On April 19 2018 09:05 radley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2018 08:02 Kare wrote:
On April 19 2018 07:39 c3rberUs wrote:
You guys do know that Light has a day job right? Or at least he had one until recently and that forces him to play only during the night/weekends or to not play at all.

That said, it is impressive for him to kick ass. I still remember the ATB run. *sheds invisible tears


Do you know what kind of job it is?

Afaik he is working for Manjaedo Lighthouse

woah really? Is that why he chose the name light? And what do you actually do, working at a lighthouse?
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
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