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88)Blackdrone
Profile Joined September 2017
17 Posts
September 20 2017 17:40 GMT
#181
I was too harsh I feel. I apologize for coming down too hard on you.
Edit: it was a small tourney and most people probably could care less.
Edit 2: I retract my apology actually as comical as it is.


Everythink is ok bro
Power[Xp]
Profile Joined July 2007
Netherlands64 Posts
September 20 2017 17:46 GMT
#182
God, such drama that started with a simple question, who is the person who is 70-0 on the ladder.

I can't care less about somebody spending dollars to be taught and then getting screwed over. Explain your story whatever you want.
Honestly, if you give somebody on the internet you hardly know and have trouble communicating with 200$ to teach you a game when there's actually plenty of free material you can learn from, you kind of have it coming.

The beauty of this game is learning and growing by yourself with help from players who actually WANT to teach / help you. And letting other people play on your account for some good score in the ladder or tournament, that's just sad, where's your pride? Get your own accomplishments. Even sadder than people who used to get A+ on iCCup by dodging Koreans.

And the person asking money for 'teaching' Brood War and screwing over those 'students' (if that's true), come on dude.

Why make it so hard? If somebody wants to learn how to play, give him some tips and study replays.
That was always the beautiful part of this community I have had the pleasure to be a part of for so long. Just help eachother out. Don't ask anything in return. Even players like flash are giving advise for free on their stream and awesome Koreans translating it for us! This bullshit destroys the community.

In my opinion you both should have a look in the mirror.

Anyway, back to the topic. I honestly don't believe any foreigner is capable of going 70-0, at least not if he's playing top Koreans too. So I'm very curious to know who's playing those games. Any old replay analyzer who can tell us like the good old iCCup Who is Who Thread?
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
September 20 2017 17:54 GMT
#183
On September 21 2017 02:46 Power[Xp] wrote:
God, such drama that started with a simple question, who is the person who is 70-0 on the ladder.

I can't care less about somebody spending dollars to be taught and then getting screwed over. Explain your story whatever you want.
Honestly, if you give somebody on the internet you hardly know and have trouble communicating with 200$ to teach you a game when there's actually plenty of free material you can learn from, you kind of have it coming.

The beauty of this game is learning and growing by yourself with help from players who actually WANT to teach / help you. And letting other people play on your account for some good score in the ladder or tournament, that's just sad, where's your pride? Get your own accomplishments. Even sadder than people who used to get A+ on iCCup by dodging Koreans.

And the person asking money for 'teaching' Brood War and screwing over those 'students' (if that's true), come on dude.

Why make it so hard? If somebody wants to learn how to play, give him some tips and study replays.
That was always the beautiful part of this community I have had the pleasure to be a part of for so long. Just help eachother out. Don't ask anything in return. Even players like flash are giving advise for free on their stream and awesome Koreans translating it for us! This bullshit destroys the community.

In my opinion you both should have a look in the mirror.

Anyway, back to the topic. I honestly don't believe any foreigner is capable of going 70-0, at least not if he's playing top Koreans too. So I'm very curious to know who's playing those games. Any old replay analyzer who can tell us like the good old iCCup Who is Who Thread?


from what i read 88)blackdrone paid shinee to play on his account xD
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Bacillus01
Profile Joined October 2013
France32 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-20 18:01:49
September 20 2017 17:57 GMT
#184
On September 21 2017 02:54 TT1 wrote:

from what i read 88)blackdrone paid shinee to play on his account xD



yes its almost 99% sure that : 88)Blackdrone = Shinee

here : http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Shinee


here blackdrone post in this thread, speaking about Shinee :

On September 21 2017 01:02 88)Blackdrone wrote:

He don't speak english so good, he can't register the foreign torunaments. Thats why i helped him. He help me keeping my mmr the best, and now i have chance to play agaist, ssak, flash, bisu, etc..

Who would not be in my place?
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10209 Posts
September 20 2017 18:22 GMT
#185
On September 21 2017 00:31 TT1 wrote:
everyone knows terrans have the biggest dicks

Wtf tesagi even in the bedroom
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danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
September 20 2017 18:34 GMT
#186
It was not my offer, that was tournament winnings around price the 100$

You offered him $100. + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


As i said it was a big fun, everybody laughed that incident, your streamers, commentators, me, everybody only you not.

How is an incident like this any fun?, I highly doubt thats the case.

What you think, if me or he wanted smurfing we do this in live streams and vods?

That is exactly what you were doing. Here are eleven captured moments that prove it. + Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Mentioning Shinee that Blackdrone is playing a tournament in Europe server.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Blackdrone offers Shinee 200 balloons to play against scan and win.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Shinee checked around and found out he can't sign up, but Scan can.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Shinee realized the sign up date was over, so he's pretty much saying to Blackdrone good luck vs Scan.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Blackdrone increases the offer $100.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Checking if Shinee wants to play, and he agreed.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Blackdrone sent his information to Shinee so Shinee can log in.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Shinee became pretty much blackdrone's puppet.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

IDK this part. Maybe if Shinee wins all games, he gets all money or something. But Shinee is very angry and calling him shibalsaeggi because Blackdrone keeps saying something else when Shinee wants the password.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Blackdrone apologizes for sending him a wrong password.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Shinee is pretty much calling Blackdrone idiot.


He don't speak english so good, he can't register the foreign torunaments.Thats why i helped him. He help me keeping my mmr the best, and now i have chance to play agaist, ssak, flash, bisu, etc..

That speaks volumes about you, faulty self image, low self esteem, inadequate, incompetent.

Who would not be in my place?

Anybody with a strong sense of self-worth, those who appreciate themselves and others, people who seek the challenge and stimulation of worthwhile and demanding goals, moral, ethical, virtuous, righteous, noble people.
"EE HAN TIMING" Jaedong vs Stork [22 December, 2007] 2set @ Finals EVER OSL.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
September 20 2017 18:43 GMT
#187
On September 21 2017 03:34 danbel1005 wrote:
Show nested quote +
It was not my offer, that was tournament winnings around price the 100$

You offered him $100. + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Show nested quote +
As i said it was a big fun, everybody laughed that incident, your streamers, commentators, me, everybody only you not.

How is an incident like this any fun?, I highly doubt thats the case.

Show nested quote +
What you think, if me or he wanted smurfing we do this in live streams and vods?

That is exactly what you were doing. Here are eleven captured moments that prove it. + Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Mentioning Shinee that Blackdrone is playing a tournament in Europe server.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Blackdrone offers Shinee 200 balloons to play against scan and win.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Shinee checked around and found out he can't sign up, but Scan can.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Shinee realized the sign up date was over, so he's pretty much saying to Blackdrone good luck vs Scan.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Blackdrone increases the offer $100.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Checking if Shinee wants to play, and he agreed.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Blackdrone sent his information to Shinee so Shinee can log in.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Shinee became pretty much blackdrone's puppet.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

IDK this part. Maybe if Shinee wins all games, he gets all money or something. But Shinee is very angry and calling him shibalsaeggi because Blackdrone keeps saying something else when Shinee wants the password.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Blackdrone apologizes for sending him a wrong password.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Shinee is pretty much calling Blackdrone idiot.


Show nested quote +
He don't speak english so good, he can't register the foreign torunaments.Thats why i helped him. He help me keeping my mmr the best, and now i have chance to play agaist, ssak, flash, bisu, etc..

That speaks volumes about you, faulty self image, low self esteem, inadequate, incompetent.

Show nested quote +
Who would not be in my place?

Anybody with a strong sense of self-worth, those who appreciate themselves and others, people who seek the challenge and stimulation of worthwhile and demanding goals, moral, ethical, virtuous, righteous, noble people.

Guy acting like him getting his mmr boosted so he can play against good players is doing anything other than giving them free points and something to laugh about on stream
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
88)Blackdrone
Profile Joined September 2017
17 Posts
September 20 2017 19:17 GMT
#188
danbel1005 i let you know if i care your opinion
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
September 20 2017 19:38 GMT
#189
On September 21 2017 04:17 88)Blackdrone wrote:
danbel1005 i let you know if i care your opinion


This has to be the funniest post I've seen in a long time.

Thiis thread today and the ride leading up to this post completely ignoring the fact he's been exposed is hilarious.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Radivel-X17
Profile Joined January 2006
Canada144 Posts
September 20 2017 20:08 GMT
#190
Spending days and hours of effort arguing for something, only to suddenly not care... that's the "I admit defeat" statement there.

You can't fool us. You care, or else.. none of this would have happened and you wouldn't have started any of these stupid shenanigans.
I used to run SC2GG, if you remember that. Come to NHFFA discord. It's where a bunch of old players who all suck at BW hang out, as well as people who like to play FFAs for some reason. https://discord.com/invite/kWNQvnd
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10209 Posts
September 20 2017 20:32 GMT
#191
On September 21 2017 04:17 88)Blackdrone wrote:
danbel1005 i let you know if i care your opinion

I have more respect for brood war combat-ex than I do for you.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
September 20 2017 20:53 GMT
#192
On September 21 2017 05:32 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2017 04:17 88)Blackdrone wrote:
danbel1005 i let you know if i care your opinion

I have more respect for brood war combat-ex than I do for you.

And for newer people that means a lot. Considering Combat-EX is pretty high on the ranks of pieces of shit in the BW community
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-20 21:40:14
September 20 2017 21:39 GMT
#193
Blackdrone didn't do much wrong here. It is entirely between him and Scan. And doesn't involve us.
Rigodon666
Profile Joined November 2006
Canada183 Posts
September 20 2017 21:43 GMT
#194
On September 21 2017 05:53 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2017 05:32 FlaShFTW wrote:
On September 21 2017 04:17 88)Blackdrone wrote:
danbel1005 i let you know if i care your opinion

I have more respect for brood war combat-ex than I do for you.

And for newer people that means a lot. Considering Combat-EX is pretty high on the ranks of pieces of shit in the BW community


To be honest I would put both of them at the same level. Combat-Ex was something special.
I'll call the guy who will call Nada
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10209 Posts
September 20 2017 21:45 GMT
#195
On September 21 2017 05:53 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2017 05:32 FlaShFTW wrote:
On September 21 2017 04:17 88)Blackdrone wrote:
danbel1005 i let you know if i care your opinion

I have more respect for brood war combat-ex than I do for you.

And for newer people that means a lot. Considering Combat-EX is pretty high on the ranks of pieces of shit in the BW community

I still liked him sc2. Brought some hilarious juicy drama and entertainment to the scene.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
Cheesefome
Profile Joined May 2016
311 Posts
September 20 2017 22:40 GMT
#196
On September 21 2017 02:46 Power[Xp] wrote:
God, such drama that started with a simple question, who is the person who is 70-0 on the ladder.

I can't care less about somebody spending dollars to be taught and then getting screwed over. Explain your story whatever you want.
Honestly, if you give somebody on the internet you hardly know and have trouble communicating with 200$ to teach you a game when there's actually plenty of free material you can learn from, you kind of have it coming.

The beauty of this game is learning and growing by yourself with help from players who actually WANT to teach / help you. And letting other people play on your account for some good score in the ladder or tournament, that's just sad, where's your pride? Get your own accomplishments. Even sadder than people who used to get A+ on iCCup by dodging Koreans.

And the person asking money for 'teaching' Brood War and screwing over those 'students' (if that's true), come on dude.

Why make it so hard? If somebody wants to learn how to play, give him some tips and study replays.
That was always the beautiful part of this community I have had the pleasure to be a part of for so long. Just help eachother out. Don't ask anything in return. Even players like flash are giving advise for free on their stream and awesome Koreans translating it for us! This bullshit destroys the community.

In my opinion you both should have a look in the mirror.

Anyway, back to the topic. I honestly don't believe any foreigner is capable of going 70-0, at least not if he's playing top Koreans too. So I'm very curious to know who's playing those games. Any old replay analyzer who can tell us like the good old iCCup Who is Who Thread?


Scan always gives tips and specific build orders when somebody asks in chat. I can't recall a single time that he hasn't and I watch his stream almost every day.

It was only fair that he defended himself here and immediately otherwise everyone would just automatically assume he really did scam the guy. Look how it all played out... turns out this drone guy is a little snake.

Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10187 Posts
September 21 2017 02:22 GMT
#197
On September 21 2017 06:39 Alpha-NP- wrote:
Blackdrone didn't do much wrong here. It is entirely between him and Scan. And doesn't involve us.

lol



This was a fun rollercoaster.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
September 21 2017 03:27 GMT
#198
If Blackdrone wants a chance to play progamers it's up to him if he wants to pay for it. I can see people doing that if they think it makes them have good practice. He must be very well to do to afford $200 like it is nothing.

And about BlackDrone getting someone to smurf Scan, it was a bit immature, but Scan was banned for a long time for smurfing in non-Korean tournaments. I think it's karma.

I welcome back a good old Hungarian player. I wish u well blackdrone.
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
September 21 2017 08:14 GMT
#199
idc if blackdrone pays the guy to boost his account lol. just wanted to know who it was.

It is a problem if hes paying him to smurf in tournaments though.
I may not be the best player right now but I think I can beat any 'best' players. I'll beat all the best players and become the best player. Watch me. - Jju
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28694 Posts
September 21 2017 09:06 GMT
#200
I for one think Scan comes out looking alright from this. Without a more specific arrangement, that looks like a fair amount of tips/help for $200.
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