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FlaShFTW
United States10128 Posts
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mSj)tokyoa
Russian Federation27 Posts
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Bacillus01
France32 Posts
If you are gonna send 200$ to a guy, better ask for some specifics like the number of hours and so on, not just the promise that "he's gonna train you". If the deal from the start was for example : 200$ vs 10 Hrs of training (game/tips/replay analysis/answering questions etc), then you could start complaining if he didn't do the full 10 hours and did only 5 hours or something. But messaging him on Skype asking some questions 4 MONTHS after the deal was made, I kinda understand Scan that he didn't reply to you. So next time, pay $$ for very specific stuff, not some random promises ! | ||
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1289 Posts
On September 20 2017 19:36 88)Blackdrone wrote: Yea, that was all speaking in 4 mounts, you didn't promised that. I see for 20-30$ other peaple get more. But i don't care anymore. Everyone decides who is right! ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/ZsrrO5A.jpg) I dont teach the way pcsname teach for every student. Like literally one on one going into the game and explain every detail. Ive fairly spent my time providing you tons of stuff more than any other students who learned from me. You wanted fish rank D level lesson. I said i will help you for 200$ and you were 50-80 F rank. I provided guidance, not skill like shinee plays your acct to get 3300mmr so you can be happy with your name on the top ladder rank board. Btw, you avoided my questions, sir. You are speaking only the advantage side. Answer my questions from the previous comment. | ||
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1289 Posts
On September 20 2017 19:47 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: common dont blame him,u know he awakes 2 am Korea to play foreigner tourneys for months? what time can he train you?  I really wanted to arrange the time to teach him more stuff and he asked multiple times for train. He really never spoke the time and i kinda did also. I dont completely blame him about this part. | ||
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[GiTM]-Ace
United States4935 Posts
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mSj)tokyoa
Russian Federation27 Posts
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1289 Posts
On September 20 2017 20:01 mSj)tokyoa wrote: Yeah, scan is a very unpleasant person. It's true that he comes to foreigners' tournaments, and picks up easy money for him. Not so long ago shinee won withiut chances scan in the tournament and all that's left for him to do is write a complaint that would be banned! xD He does not shine on the Korean scene, here he is looking for easy money in non-Korean tournaments... he pretends that he is incredibly advanced and very smart, but in fact he is a simple child. Not so long ago he was banned from the tournament (by yoda) for the fact that he was late for him so he immediately wrote in Korean that the administrator is a dumb asshole as soon as I translated it into eng I was shocked and published the original entry in eng and then what happened? followed by the act of the child : 1) I was banned on his channel 2) he quickly delete the chat. Do you still think that it is white and fluffy? My 1 bm = 100% fault. Ant other bm from salty players when i did nothing wrong = still 100% my fault. very logical i guess ^^? Im a human. I can make a mistake. And koreans love to say shibal + saeggi a lot and the weakest bad word. Ask ifu.spx or marwin. They might know. I dont exactly recall the situation, but yoda was ignoring me when i needed something (help i think). I got upset and spoke shibalsaeggi. I stream my own channel, have my rights and freedom. I said it cuz of the frustration. Ofc i wont say bad words in offline tour . You were timed out for 600 seconds because you were irritating me with your chat comment. I dont ban people unless they do some crazy shit like advertising stuff. I dont hate the person until hes being a dick and harassing me all the time. Which means i dont hate you. If you look at my banlist, theres only 6 people who got banned. Even haters can come chat. | ||
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mSj)tokyoa
Russian Federation27 Posts
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1289 Posts
On September 20 2017 20:45 mSj)tokyoa wrote: "My 1 bm" ? there were a thousand such cases, it's just that I'm too lazy to take screenshots of every your act. It is 1 bm during that tourney. I just recalled that you deliver my word to yoda from my personal stream channel. What a good guy. | ||
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mSj)tokyoa
Russian Federation27 Posts
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1289 Posts
On September 20 2017 20:50 mSj)tokyoa wrote: 1 bm srsly? www.twitch.tv 3 times you call yoda "seki"... LUL If you are gonna count how many times "SAEGGI" I said in "ONE SPECIFIC PERIOD", that's not how you do so, and I believe others will agree about this.. I just opened up the Defiler Tour #83 bracket to remember about this situation fully. I came on time before W.O. I unfairly got DQed in Winners bracket. I got upset with Yoda's action(I know organizers have all the power). Rules: + Show Spoiler + 4. How long should you wait for the opponent if he/she is not responding or is offline? 15 minutes is a standard term after which you shall write the admin about W.O.. In separate cases exclusions can be done, if the absent player notified the admin that will be absent for not more than 20-25 minutes. Remark: Do not abuse such requests. Such requests will be pleased one time only per each player during the tournament. 1st Addition: I somewhat felt Righterran abused the request(IMO). He completely ignored my msg in channel as my VOD can prove you to check. Btw, from your earlier post, I know a lot of defiler users trash talked about me with bad words. I'm surely believe in the side, and don't pretend "i'm an innocent kid that I never bm anyone ". I know you from like 2013, 14 iccup 2v2 trash talking to me every time because you were frustrated when I did NOTHING wrong. I let things go. I always try myself to be a better person every new year. | ||
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88)Blackdrone
17 Posts
On the other hand, the deal was very vague to begin with, so both sides are to be blamed, not just Scan. If you are gonna send 200$ to a guy, better ask for some specifics like the number of hours and so on, not just the promise that "he's gonna train you". If the deal from the start was for example : 200$ vs 10 Hrs of training (game/tips/replay analysis/answering questions etc), then you could start complaining if he didn't do the full 10 hours and did only 5 hours or something. But messaging him on Skype asking some questions 4 MONTHS after the deal was made, I kinda understand Scan that he didn't reply to you. So next time, pay $$ for very specific stuff, not some random promises ! I paid JUN. 28, all july i was holiday. In august i wanted use my practice hours with scan, but nothing. | ||
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1289 Posts
On September 20 2017 21:12 88)Blackdrone wrote: I paid JUN. 28, all july i was holiday. In august i wanted use my practice hours with scan, but nothing. I want to hear your response from my questions. Please do not avoid it. | ||
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88)Blackdrone
17 Posts
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1289 Posts
On September 20 2017 22:05 88)Blackdrone wrote: What questions? tell me again clearly plz 2nd Addition: If you were letting Shinee to play on your account, telling him to be BlackDrone from Hungary, then what is this of your action? If you wanted him to participate the event, why didn't you guide him to sign up with his name and play? Why were you also pretending you were online on Discord? | ||
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PuckSama
3 Posts
- Ladder abuse on TSL. - Insulting Liquid stuff. - Sharring account during competition. - Ban from ISL. I realy think that a person can change but even in 2017 Scan is still involved in some dramas like this one with Blackdrone, with Terror when he said that Terror was stream cheating in front of his viewers, or even with FR)Yoda like Tokyoa said... That was just few examples but open your eyes... He will never change. I dont even talk about let him playing on foreigner competitions because it's not the subjet here. | ||
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1289 Posts
On September 20 2017 22:22 PuckSama wrote: Again a drama with Scan... when will you finally understand that this guy does more harm to the foreigner community than good... Just read his liquipedia page : - Ladder abuse on TSL. - Insulting Liquid stuff. - Sharring account during competition. - Ban from ISL. I realy think that a person can change but even in 2017 Scan is still involved in some dramas like this one with Blackdrone, with Terror when he said that Terror was stream cheating in front of his viewers, or even with FR)Yoda like Tokyoa said... That was just few examples but open your eyes... He will never change. I dont even talk about let him playing on foreigner competitions because it's not the subjet here. Haters are gonna hate. I remember you in my stream channel. I didn't cause dramas that much. It's actually the haters did it. I was accused for "STREAM CHEATING" years and years ago by many people when I was dominating in the scene. They did it on purpose. I can tell because they don't like and want me to win tournaments. Those people are still hating on me for no reasons and insulting my skill/life "You suck. You no do shit in KR scene." What's up with you and those people? ^^; I even made a post for apology to TerrOr. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/175193899?t=04h14m17s he probably had vision to get information about my wraith movement. It was a little joke during the game, and I never personally attacked him or any other players like saying "You streamcheater, loser." I have my way of entertaining viewers. I gained fame, respect, many likes by fans. I recently got my first invitation to TwitchShow(Korean entertainment show program) to play the role for Korean show. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/175895403?t=12m20s Can you be like me if you were a streamer?? keeping up at least 200 viewers to max 600 and organizing your stream viewers community? I want to you take back your word of saying "insulting liquid stuff". I grew up here. I love and support teamliquid like always. I spent money buying their products. In addition, here was my previous post apologizing to TerrOr. IDK why you are bringing that shit up. + Show Spoiler + "Ive suffered more than 6 years that more than 70% probably of ppl trash talking ever since that time until now. I did it for fun for my stream purpose (concept), and i didnt personally bm you. If my action hurt your feeling, im sorry. Btw, many korean streamers including flash, bisu, effort and others say something stupid for a bit of joke with their audiences like Tesagi, arbiter sagi. So i hope you can understand my action how i gather up and make my stream community ( at least 200 viewers, max 600 every stream). If you cant, idk then... They even say maphack, streamcheat or false advertise like vs flash(??) Jd (???) When they were playing against 424, jiko etc I hope you to take your word back once you read my post. Thanks for understanding " Lastly update: There are bunch of Korean streamers on Afreeca, they said stupid stuff multiple times every day(like streamcheating, maphack, resource hack, etc), and everyone laughs and brushes away, but not on here. Effort said something stupid about OGN during Sbenu, and I've seen many people protected Effort. Same for KR TerrOr. Always saying "bisu piece of shit. shibal, majaeyoon matchfixing shit, shibalsaeggi" or during ladder games "ah shibal, he's streamcheating, blah blah blah". Everyone knows he's somewhat joking, somewhat serious. I know everyone doesn't act the same, I can't make everyone happy, I even made a post to apologize and explain my action for PE TerrOr to understand and forgive me. | ||
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PuckSama
3 Posts
On September 20 2017 22:24 LaStScan wrote: Haters are gonna hate. I remember you in my stream channel. I didn't cause dramas that much. It's actually the haters did it. I was accused for "STREAM CHEATING" like years ago by many people when I was dominating in the scene. They did it on purpose. I can tell. Those people are still hating on me for no reasons and insulting my skill/life "You suck. You no do shit in KR scene." What's up with you and those people? ^^; I even made a post for apology to TerrOr. "Haters are gonna hate" the ultimate answer to all problems ! Yes I was on your stream, so what ? Did I trash talk you ? Last time I was on your stream I was just talking with another viewer about your game with Adelscott and the fact you were flaming each other. If you have so many haters like you said, there must be some reasons right ? Or maybe we dont like you just because you are korean if you want to believe that. About TerrOr so ok if you apologize nothing happened... Please it looks like a childish excuse, you dont even know if TerrOr accepted your apologies... (and it dont looks like an apologie to me, but we dont care). Next time just dont be stupid and dont accuse someone to cheat, an apologie dont solve everything and it's not your first time. | ||
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1289 Posts
On September 20 2017 22:55 PuckSama wrote: "Haters are gonna hate" the ultimate answer to all problems ! Yes I was on your stream, so what ? Did I trash talk you ? Last time I was on your stream I was just talking with another viewer about your game with Adelscott and the fact you were flaming each other. If you have so many haters like you said, there must be some reasons right ? Or maybe we dont like you just because you are korean if you want to believe that. About TerrOr so ok if you apologize nothing happened... Please it looks like a childish excuse, you dont even know if TerrOr accepted your apologies... (and it dont looks like an apologie to me, but we dont care). Next time just dont be stupid and dont accuse someone to cheat, an apologie dont solve everything and it's not your first time. Some of the haters just hate without reasons. Not every haters have a reason why they are hating on someone. Yes, I was 17 somewhere there, made a bunch of mistakes 6-7 years ago and got punishment by people. Later on, people forgave me, I was able to come back on TL to stream and support bunch of other stuff. I honestly do not know why you are bringing up 17 year old Scan vs Current Scan. Yes. I wanted a bit of joke, but it turned out to be bad result. I made a small mistake for stream concept, and I will monitor myself more next time. Thanks for the advice, PuckSama <3 Btw, BlackDrone-Scan's drama was caused by him. Not me. I've fairly taught him so much that I didn't teach for other students since he paid a lot + wanted D rank from F rank level. Backstab drama, BlackDrone did it. I just collected evidence from Shinee's VOD. AND IDK why Blackdrone denies it on Discord chat... | ||
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