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88)Blackdrone
Profile Joined September 2017
17 Posts
September 21 2017 09:34 GMT
#201
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I for one think Scan comes out looking alright from this. Without a more specific arrangement, that looks like a fair amount of tips/help for $200.


I don't know the koreans, but in hungary nearly 1 mount wage. I know in Norway 1-2 days.
Bacillus01
Profile Joined October 2013
France32 Posts
September 21 2017 10:51 GMT
#202
On September 21 2017 18:34 88)Blackdrone wrote:
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I for one think Scan comes out looking alright from this. Without a more specific arrangement, that looks like a fair amount of tips/help for $200.


I don't know the koreans, but in hungary nearly 1 mount wage. I know in Norway 1-2 days.



Well I may be wrong but it seems like you have some $$ to throw away so 200$ shouldn't be 1 month wage for you, why would you bring that up? It's obviously not for a Korean as well
Berg_zerg
Profile Joined July 2004
Germany294 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-21 11:05:00
September 21 2017 10:55 GMT
#203
Well summarize the facts.

1.) Blackdrone and Scan made a coaching deal
Blackdrone was not satisfyed with what he got for 200$
Scan declared that he gave 10h of input which for 200$ tbh in my eyes is a pretty fair deal... thats 20$h

a 1to1 coaching in any other sport with a semi-professional involved starts from around 200$ an hour !


2.) Blackdrone payed Shinee to level his account to 3000mmr
I am pretty surprised this low selfesteem move seems to be quite accepted within parts of the TL community


3.) Blackdrone payed Shinee to smurf on his account in a tournament with Scan participating with the sole purpouse of getting back at Scan for being angry at how their coaching deal worked out.

Funny part about this is he thinks it was insanely funny and everybody else also found it extremly funny except for Scan.
That is just not true


1.) Bastrade Stuff was pretty frustrated when they found out and said they dont know how this shit can even happen.
2.) Scan said that he will play the games regardless and he doesnt want a DQ... he just wants the admins to know that from the skill level he can tell pretty easy he is not playing blackdrone.
When Shinee brought the scvs to break Scan tank line in early midgame he knew something is wrong.
Since when does Blackdrone make such good descisions ??? He must have improved a loooooooooooooot

3.) Scan Stream viewers started an investigation (Not Scan !) and found out its Shinee playing.

4.) Basetrade Stuff got noticed and DQed Shinee
It was descison of Basetrade stuff not of Scan !
Basetrade also mentioned that they are not sure there will even be another SC:R tournament with being so much frustrated with this shit happening


This are the pure facts.

I know you pretend to not care about my opinion.

Fact is you are a very very low self-esteem person.
I feel sorry for you

Bacillus01
Profile Joined October 2013
France32 Posts
September 21 2017 11:03 GMT
#204
On September 21 2017 19:55 Berg_zerg wrote:
Well summarize the facts.



Seems like a very good summary of the facts.

I would add that it seems that since the start of the drama on this thread, Scan has refunded 150$ of the initial 200$ to blackdrone :

On September 21 2017 00:35 LaStScan wrote:
I don't think I can keep up communicating with you, and I gave you a bad service(lessons) so I sent your money back.


On September 21 2017 00:46 88)Blackdrone wrote:
Thank you the refunding, i received. Now you accepted my problem and agreed me.




Drensa
Profile Joined August 2017
23 Posts
September 21 2017 11:05 GMT
#205
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New leader! Man really impressive MMR, that must be a ton of wins!

No but in all seriousness, sad that hackers apparently already are messing up the leaderboards..
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States930 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-21 12:23:52
September 21 2017 12:17 GMT
#206
He's not a hacker, he just has a negative rating. It's just underflowing because the rating is an unsigned integer, not a signed one. It should be signed.

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/296az74e.aspx

UINT max is 4294967295 and he's 4294967291, which means his rating is actually -5
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1932 Posts
September 21 2017 13:28 GMT
#207
that is 100% like overwatch back in the day...
nothing learned @ blizzard hq
I don't believe you.
Pippah
Profile Joined January 2010
Denmark353 Posts
September 21 2017 13:41 GMT
#208
This blackdrone guy looks like he needs some social sense if he thinks this is funny O.o ?
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
September 21 2017 13:53 GMT
#209
I know I'm late but $200 doesn't sound that bad. Or perhaps bad at all. Classy of Scan to be the bigger man, and hopefully he doesn't start getting reverse scammed.
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
sc19980331
Profile Joined March 2017
China1609 Posts
September 21 2017 14:23 GMT
#210
On September 21 2017 21:17 iopq wrote:
He's not a hacker, he just has a negative rating. It's just underflowing because the rating is an unsigned integer, not a signed one. It should be signed.

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/296az74e.aspx

UINT max is 4294967295 and he's 4294967291, which means his rating is actually -5

DouBLE_JackPoT_, it seems BN admin has deleted this account.
TL+ Member
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1932 Posts
September 21 2017 14:42 GMT
#211
On September 21 2017 23:23 sc19980331 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2017 21:17 iopq wrote:
He's not a hacker, he just has a negative rating. It's just underflowing because the rating is an unsigned integer, not a signed one. It should be signed.

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/296az74e.aspx

UINT max is 4294967295 and he's 4294967291, which means his rating is actually -5

DouBLE_JackPoT_, it seems BN admin has deleted this account.


i wonder why would it be deleted?
not like it broke any rules, it was just a very bad player.
I don't believe you.
Power[Xp]
Profile Joined July 2007
Netherlands64 Posts
September 21 2017 16:40 GMT
#212
On September 21 2017 07:40 Cheesefome wrote:
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On September 21 2017 02:46 Power[Xp] wrote:
God, such drama that started with a simple question, who is the person who is 70-0 on the ladder.

I can't care less about somebody spending dollars to be taught and then getting screwed over. Explain your story whatever you want.
Honestly, if you give somebody on the internet you hardly know and have trouble communicating with 200$ to teach you a game when there's actually plenty of free material you can learn from, you kind of have it coming.

The beauty of this game is learning and growing by yourself with help from players who actually WANT to teach / help you. And letting other people play on your account for some good score in the ladder or tournament, that's just sad, where's your pride? Get your own accomplishments. Even sadder than people who used to get A+ on iCCup by dodging Koreans.

And the person asking money for 'teaching' Brood War and screwing over those 'students' (if that's true), come on dude.

Why make it so hard? If somebody wants to learn how to play, give him some tips and study replays.
That was always the beautiful part of this community I have had the pleasure to be a part of for so long. Just help eachother out. Don't ask anything in return. Even players like flash are giving advise for free on their stream and awesome Koreans translating it for us! This bullshit destroys the community.

In my opinion you both should have a look in the mirror.

Anyway, back to the topic. I honestly don't believe any foreigner is capable of going 70-0, at least not if he's playing top Koreans too. So I'm very curious to know who's playing those games. Any old replay analyzer who can tell us like the good old iCCup Who is Who Thread?


Scan always gives tips and specific build orders when somebody asks in chat. I can't recall a single time that he hasn't and I watch his stream almost every day.

It was only fair that he defended himself here and immediately otherwise everyone would just automatically assume he really did scam the guy. Look how it all played out... turns out this drone guy is a little snake.



You're right. I was too fast in my judgement. My apologies to Scan.
Power[Xp]
Profile Joined July 2007
Netherlands64 Posts
September 21 2017 16:42 GMT
#213
On September 21 2017 18:34 88)Blackdrone wrote:
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I for one think Scan comes out looking alright from this. Without a more specific arrangement, that looks like a fair amount of tips/help for $200.


I don't know the koreans, but in hungary nearly 1 mount wage. I know in Norway 1-2 days.


If 200$ is so much money, why the fuck would you spend it like this? :D
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland173 Posts
September 21 2017 16:53 GMT
#214
Excuse me, can someone make tldr version of this drama lol ? Some guy payd Scan for replays and acc bust and ppl crying Scan takes too much money or wtf?
AKA: Poezja[T4], Poegim
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-21 18:23:16
September 21 2017 18:20 GMT
#215
On September 22 2017 01:53 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote:
Excuse me, can someone make tldr version of this drama lol ? Some guy payd Scan for replays and acc bust and ppl crying Scan takes too much money or wtf?

Poorly handled coaching deal between Scan and Blackdrone.
Blackdrone unsatisfied with the results decided to backstab Scan by deliberately breaking the rules of a tournament paying Shinee to play under his name. Blackdrone also paid Shinee to boost his account.
Scan returned part of the coaching deal money and exposed Blackdrone.
Blackdrone finds all of this funny and continues talking shit in the forums.
"EE HAN TIMING" Jaedong vs Stork [22 December, 2007] 2set @ Finals EVER OSL.
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
September 21 2017 18:24 GMT
#216
On September 22 2017 03:20 danbel1005 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2017 01:53 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote:
Excuse me, can someone make tldr version of this drama lol ? Some guy payd Scan for replays and acc bust and ppl crying Scan takes too much money or wtf?

Poorly handled coaching deal between Scan and Blackdrone.
Blackdrone unsatisfied with the results decided to backstab Scan by deliberately breaking the rules of a tournament paying Shinee to play under his name. Blackdrone also paid Shinee to boost his account.
Scan returned part of the coaching deal money and exposed Blackdrone.
Blackdrone finds all of this funny and continues talking shit in the forums.


We majorly talked in SC fish server. I have explained how I coach someone, but i can't bring the evidence about that.
coaching part was fully covered(the way i teach step by step). Even provided private replays that I don't share on TL.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
88)Blackdrone
Profile Joined September 2017
17 Posts
September 21 2017 18:50 GMT
#217
danbel1005: you very smart, you should be a detective :D :D
88)Blackdrone
Profile Joined September 2017
17 Posts
September 21 2017 18:59 GMT
#218
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If 200$ is so much money, why the fuck would you spend it like this? :D


For me no as i said my first comment. But for nothing is too much.

Scan agreed me in PM he didn't deserved it and refunded.

We are ok with Scan we didn't hate each other, we discussed things.

GG, this theme is finished, thank you guys
gutshot
Profile Joined February 2011
United States429 Posts
September 21 2017 19:26 GMT
#219
lol TLBW drama never dies!! had a good laugh skimming through

I havent followed bw scene for years but this one Blackdrone comes out looking like a douche. Impersonating thus breaking the tournament rules is never right. Im also shocked Scan gave the money back to the guy. Maybe they're good friends now
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-21 20:54:23
September 21 2017 20:52 GMT
#220
On September 22 2017 03:59 88)Blackdrone wrote:
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If 200$ is so much money, why the fuck would you spend it like this? :D


For me no as i said my first comment. But for nothing is too much.

Scan agreed me in PM he didn't deserved it and refunded.

We are ok with Scan we didn't hate each other, we discussed things.

GG, this theme is finished, thank you guys

I care my name value more than money.
I kept explaining shit, but your responses were like
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Blackdrone - Last Monday at 3:29 AM
what the problem?
???
September 20, 2017
Blackdrone - Last Wednesday at 9:36 PM
Bro, i really don't wanted hurt you, but i don't agree to i backstab you. I don't understand why started blame me in public. I respect your skill, and i like how you play. I never said nobody that practice money, etc, say thanks it for yourself.
If you have problem PM me and we speak about it normally


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Blackdrone - Last Wednesday at 10:32 PM
Iam sorry, that is my accout. I should share everythink about it? Or What?
Scan - Last Wednesday at 11:11 PM
That didn't answer my question.
2nd Addition: If you were letting Shinee to play on your account, telling him to be BlackDrone from Hungary, then what is this of your action? If you wanted him to participate the event, why didn't you guide him to sign up with his name and play? Why were you also pretending you were online on Discord?
You shared your account with Shinee. This is very clear.
September 21, 2017
Blackdrone - Yesterday at 12:20 AM
If i shared it with shinee, or flash, or somebody, or i played?
What is the problem?
I must let you know everythink what i do?
I don't understand


btw, I made my decision that you have 2 faces.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
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