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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
September 21 2017 21:00 GMT
#221
Actually account sharing is a bannable offense by Blizzard last I checked they take that very serious
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1598 Posts
September 21 2017 21:42 GMT
#222
Based upon the evidence provided by both parties, I feel that Scan did his part in providing the training that was discussed.
I feel that Scan deserved the $200 agreed upon prior to the training, yet chose to refund Blackdrone since he doesn't want to lose credibility or be involved in drama that hurts his image. Scan was obviously the bigger man in this topic of discussion, which is why I will continue to support his involvement in the Brood War community. Good job Scan, you handled this very well.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3690 Posts
September 21 2017 21:45 GMT
#223
On September 22 2017 06:00 arb wrote:
Actually account sharing is a bannable offense by Blizzard last I checked they take that very serious


Can confirm. When you still needed to buy a copy of Starcraft 2 for each region Blizz called HSC and complained about Huk using TLOs account. Kinda ridiculous that they expected Huk to buy a copy of Starcraft 2 to compete in a tournament in Europe, but that's blizzard for ya.
MarcoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany146 Posts
September 21 2017 23:04 GMT
#224
Eriador: Liquid'Drone
WhiteRa: gameiprotoss

They actually met in ladder.
It's so easy to laugh, It's so easy to hate, It takes guts to be gentle and kind.
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5525 Posts
September 21 2017 23:11 GMT
#225
who won?
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
September 22 2017 06:14 GMT
#226
On September 22 2017 08:04 MarcoJ wrote:
Eriador: Liquid'Drone
WhiteRa: gameiprotoss

They actually met in ladder.


Gameitoss/Gameiprotoss was also White-Ras old smurf on PGTour/ICCup
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
MarcoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany146 Posts
September 22 2017 07:54 GMT
#227
On September 22 2017 08:11 jimminy_kriket wrote:
who won?


Eriador. He did a fast Zealot push. WhiteRa was holding it more or less well, but than two hidden Zealots came into the main mineral line and killed like 10 probes. Both were expending, Eriador securing with cannons, WhiteRa going more for an army. But in the end Eriador pushed with a solid Zealot/Dragoon mix and WhiteRa wasnt having enough stuff. Probably bc of the 10 probes that died before and he had nearly 1k gas during defending it, while being super low on mins.
It's so easy to laugh, It's so easy to hate, It takes guts to be gentle and kind.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28733 Posts
September 22 2017 09:05 GMT
#228
was definitely the two hidden zealots that did it.

I managed to pylon prison a korean yesterday, that felt amazing. then he disconnected, of course.
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MyTHicaL
Profile Joined November 2005
France1070 Posts
September 22 2017 11:06 GMT
#229
On September 22 2017 06:45 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2017 06:00 arb wrote:
Actually account sharing is a bannable offense by Blizzard last I checked they take that very serious


Can confirm. When you still needed to buy a copy of Starcraft 2 for each region Blizz called HSC and complained about Huk using TLOs account. Kinda ridiculous that they expected Huk to buy a copy of Starcraft 2 to compete in a tournament in Europe, but that's blizzard for ya.


Ever since the Activision merger Blizz has become all about the money. Before they were content to dominate several video game genres, now they think of only profits.
mca64Launcher_
Profile Joined June 2015
Poland629 Posts
September 22 2017 11:11 GMT
#230
On September 22 2017 18:05 Liquid`Drone wrote:
was definitely the two hidden zealots that did it.

I managed to pylon prison a korean yesterday, that felt amazing. then he disconnected, of course.


my favourite sc movie

Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28733 Posts
September 22 2017 11:18 GMT
#231
I'm completely outshadowed by following the trail of tears there. That, to this very day, is still the greatest game of brood war ever played.
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-22 11:42:14
September 22 2017 11:41 GMT
#232
My favourite from this one is where Boxer blinded the observers. Too bad with the all mech late game these tricks will probably never see a comeback.

Then again with the weird ghost v sair match in the most recent asl ro24 I'll beware before ever saying "never."

/off
The heart's eternal vow
elKa-ThE-FeArEd
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden177 Posts
September 22 2017 11:52 GMT
#233
On September 20 2017 20:36 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:
btw didnt mean to start all this drama when i asked who blackdrone was lol.


Oh man what have u started? ;D
aLt)nirvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Singapore846 Posts
September 23 2017 16:13 GMT
#234
On September 22 2017 08:04 MarcoJ wrote:
Eriador: Liquid'Drone
WhiteRa: gameiprotoss

They actually met in ladder.


Any interest to start a foreigner who's who list?
Hoping someone active on the forums can start a thread with a regularly updated OP.

An interesting observation:

Most of the inactive ex-top tier 1 foreigners who came back seem to be in the 2100-2200 range.

e.g
iNcontroLTV 2129
Draco 2176
Liquid`Drone 2267
Legionnaire 2148
Liquid`MaNa 2213

Then there's the ones who kept playing who are 2400+

Bonyth 2401
Sziky 2466
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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5525 Posts
September 25 2017 04:15 GMT
#235
Draco plays under ProHat he was around 2500 last I checked.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-25 07:19:18
September 25 2017 07:18 GMT
#236
On September 25 2017 13:15 jimminy_kriket wrote:
Draco plays under ProHat he was around 2500 last I checked.


I don't think he's ever reached 2500.
His absolute max was 2480 or something, but then he dropped around 100 points and most of the time he is around 2350-2400
I don't believe you.
Esp1noza
Profile Joined September 2003
Russian Federation481 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-25 11:22:29
September 25 2017 11:22 GMT
#237
On September 25 2017 16:18 abuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2017 13:15 jimminy_kriket wrote:
Draco plays under ProHat he was around 2500 last I checked.


I don't think he's ever reached 2500.
His absolute max was 2480 or something, but then he dropped around 100 points and most of the time he is around 2350-2400

Draco is 2523 right now.

Anyone know who is Nemu? Nether heard about him and he looks pretty good, one of the better foreigner zergs.
BroodWar forever
Berg_zerg
Profile Joined July 2004
Germany294 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-25 11:45:52
September 25 2017 11:44 GMT
#238
On September 24 2017 01:13 aLt)nirvana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2017 08:04 MarcoJ wrote:
Eriador: Liquid'Drone
WhiteRa: gameiprotoss

They actually met in ladder.


Any interest to start a foreigner who's who list?
Hoping someone active on the forums can start a thread with a regularly updated OP.

An interesting observation:

Most of the inactive ex-top tier 1 foreigners who came back seem to be in the 2100-2200 range.

e.g
iNcontroLTV 2129
Draco 2176
Liquid`Drone 2267
Legionnaire 2148
Liquid`MaNa 2213

Then there's the ones who kept playing who are 2400+

Bonyth 2401
Sziky 2466


Your observation is completely flawed since most Tier 1 foreigners play on "smurfs"

That Nal_Draco Account has + 17 losses from disconnects since Draco had unstable Internet at first.
furthermore it is now only used at warm up games.

Draco has been in the 2400-2550 range using the account Prohat for a while now and he was 2500+ at some point even few weeks ago.

Incontrol never was Tier 1 imo
He was pretty clear Tier 2
He was not even Top 30 in any of the years i remmeber from the Broodwar golden days of non korean starcraft
2002-2007


The interesting observation imo is , that Draco is still TOP 4 foreigner doing pretty good against Eonzerg,Trutacz,Sziky,Dewalt etc while being inactive for years and only playing like 10h a week while working full time in a normal job.


Nemu is a bulgarian Zerg ? who played in TSL 2009
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28733 Posts
September 25 2017 12:02 GMT
#239
you really can't say much from the ratings right now. There are probably like 15 wins missing for me because of players disconnecting, and another 10 games where I did some stupid allin because lag made it unplayable. I assume most players have similar experiences, and as I have only played like 60-70 games (even though it says I've played more on the ladder, this is because a lot of games randomly count twice), this becomes pretty significant. I've also randomed every game, and there are some matchups I fare pretty horribly in.

Don't get me wrong, I think sziky and bonyth (and trutacz and eonzerg) being 200 points ahead of me makes perfect sense, as they are all superior players. And Draco holding his own at 2500 is certainly impressive. But right now, the ratings do not accurately display how good various players are.
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UltrA
Profile Joined September 2009
48 Posts
September 25 2017 17:11 GMT
#240
who is Ever)P(Bisu1?
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