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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 22 2017 19:23 GMT
#621
On April 23 2017 04:18 duke91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2017 03:57 Mangemongen wrote:
Making hotkeys rebindable will greatly increase the chances of new players sticking around, and of people who enjoy both SC2 and Brood War to keep playing both.


Who cares about new players. All they do is getting roflstomped anyways, keybinds or not. Survival of the fittest


What kind of argument is that even? "Players who are new and less experienced get stomped anyway" thus there is no need for any qol changes which makes it easier to get into the game
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duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
April 22 2017 19:43 GMT
#622
So you want to further pamper towards casual players? How did that work out for SC2?
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Mangemongen
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden125 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-22 20:01:29
April 22 2017 19:59 GMT
#623
On April 23 2017 04:18 duke91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2017 03:57 Mangemongen wrote:
Making hotkeys rebindable will greatly increase the chances of new players sticking around, and of people who enjoy both SC2 and Brood War to keep playing both.


Who cares about new players. All they do is getting roflstomped anyways, keybinds or not. Survival of the fittest


We are getting matchmaking/ladder system with Remastered. Why would new players play veterans? You make no sense.

Even now, half the games are called something like "1:1 noobs".

On April 23 2017 04:43 duke91 wrote:
So you want to further pamper towards casual players? How did that work out for SC2?


Casual is not the same thing as new.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-22 20:19:17
April 22 2017 20:11 GMT
#624
There are so many ways to help new players and make it easier to learn the game without even touching the core gameplay.
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vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3459 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-22 20:18:05
April 22 2017 20:17 GMT
#625
On April 23 2017 04:18 duke91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2017 03:57 Mangemongen wrote:
Making hotkeys rebindable will greatly increase the chances of new players sticking around, and of people who enjoy both SC2 and Brood War to keep playing both.


Who cares about new players. All they do is getting roflstomped anyways, keybinds or not. Survival of the fittest

This can't be serious...
I prefer having ppl to play with you know.
Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines816 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-22 21:12:56
April 22 2017 20:37 GMT
#626
sound files need to link to the sound folder for custom sounds. some koreans use korean voice sounds, german players use german sounds ect.

also for navigating through replays/maps you should be able to press "A" to go to the maps that start with "A", "B" for maps that start with "B", ect. I'd imagine it would piss off koreans too. it is also super laggy loading folders that have a gigantic amount of reps or maps, probably because of the map preview on the side. remove this and make it function the way it used to, it was a trillion times faster

my download folder just took 10 minutes to populate -___-
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aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-22 21:19:05
April 22 2017 21:13 GMT
#627
On April 23 2017 04:43 duke91 wrote:
So you want to further pamper towards casual players? How did that work out for SC2?

Last time I saw feedback from Korean community about SC2 they said that they consider it too hard

On April 23 2017 04:18 duke91 wrote:
Who cares about new players. All they do is getting roflstomped anyways, keybinds or not. Survival of the fittest

lol. In your perfect world there is a playerbase that doesn't let unworthy play your game i guess, congrats on being one of the best
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Strider!!
Profile Joined April 2017
United States12 Posts
April 22 2017 22:11 GMT
#628
Rebinding keys will hurt SC in the long run but pump up initial numbers.

StarCraft is the best live game because the unique hotkeys are set in stone. Which provides some awesome, one of a kind keyboard gymnastics rather than watching a mindless drone pound away on the same dozen keys.

Hey at that point why don't ya disconnect your keyboard, throw it out the window and plug in a Dpad to play off.
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Meepman
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada610 Posts
April 22 2017 22:18 GMT
#629
So sick of this - what if we just get rid of all hotkeys? It's for the skill ceiling, man.
bajabongo
Profile Joined November 2012
Poland10 Posts
April 22 2017 22:36 GMT
#630
what is so great and modern it 1.18 patch that I can't run it on win xp?
Biolunar
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany224 Posts
April 22 2017 23:44 GMT
#631
On April 23 2017 07:36 bajabongo wrote:
what is so great and modern it 1.18 patch that I can't run it on win xp?

Because WinXP is shit?
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broodwarisback
Profile Joined March 2017
37 Posts
April 22 2017 23:59 GMT
#632
On April 23 2017 07:36 bajabongo wrote:
what is so great and modern it 1.18 patch that I can't run it on win xp?

because windows XP is not officially supported anymore and like 15 years old?

get a new computer dude
Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines816 Posts
April 23 2017 00:16 GMT
#633
obs mode should show unit training progress / structure building progress / tech research progress
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Strider!!
Profile Joined April 2017
United States12 Posts
April 23 2017 00:33 GMT
#634
On April 23 2017 07:18 Meepman wrote:
So sick of this - what if we just get rid of all hotkeys? It's for the skill ceiling, man.

So by that logic NBA players should play with a WNBA ball, you know, for the skill ceiling.
From the ashes, a fire shall be woken. A light from the shadow shall spring. Renewed shall be blade that was broken. The crownless again shall be king.
Quesadilla
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1814 Posts
April 23 2017 00:35 GMT
#635
Anybody figure out how to get rid of the mouse lag? Playing on 4k monitors :/
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Meepman
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada610 Posts
April 23 2017 01:08 GMT
#636
On April 23 2017 09:33 Strider!! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2017 07:18 Meepman wrote:
So sick of this - what if we just get rid of all hotkeys? It's for the skill ceiling, man.

So by that logic NBA players should play with a WNBA ball, you know, for the skill ceiling.


lol?

you jumped from hotkey rebinds to using a dpad and killing the game in your original post. Nobody is plotting for incremental patches to destroy the game, this is an inconsequential adjustment.
Strider!!
Profile Joined April 2017
United States12 Posts
April 23 2017 01:11 GMT
#637
On April 23 2017 09:35 Quesadilla wrote:
Anybody figure out how to get rid of the mouse lag? Playing on 4k monitors :/

if you have an older computer on 4K... in game:

a. options -> video -> unenable bilinear filtering. (returns cpu requirements closer to 1.16?)
b. think of FPS cap like apm cap for lag. Enable it and lower the better. Going over = lag (still experimenting with it off)

1.18 lag issues seem to be related to your CPU being Remastered ready or not.
From the ashes, a fire shall be woken. A light from the shadow shall spring. Renewed shall be blade that was broken. The crownless again shall be king.
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3712 Posts
April 23 2017 05:11 GMT
#638
On April 23 2017 10:11 Strider!! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2017 09:35 Quesadilla wrote:
Anybody figure out how to get rid of the mouse lag? Playing on 4k monitors :/

if you have an older computer on 4K... in game:

a. options -> video -> unenable bilinear filtering. (returns cpu requirements closer to 1.16?)
b. think of FPS cap like apm cap for lag. Enable it and lower the better. Going over = lag (still experimenting with it off)

1.18 lag issues seem to be related to your CPU being Remastered ready or not.

I very much doubt that the bilinear filtering is being done on the CPU. You also probably want to be careful enabling FPS cap, as it's at least mildly related to the loss of inputs (and probably mouse lag as well) people are complaining about. Best thing to try would be turning off unit portraits and vsync.
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Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-23 05:17:12
April 23 2017 05:12 GMT
#639
Me and my friend have both experienced a glitch, where, certain parts of the game (in fullscreen mode), if you click it will minimize you to desktop. Just random parts of the map, makes it totally unplayable. Reloading the game and loading in and out of windowed fullscreen to normal fullscreen fixes it.

edit: i.e if i clicked on the left part of my mineral line, it minimizes. Not the right side. The center of my base, but not the left edge. etc etc.
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Strider!!
Profile Joined April 2017
United States12 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-23 06:02:01
April 23 2017 05:59 GMT
#640
On April 23 2017 14:11 tec27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2017 10:11 Strider!! wrote:
On April 23 2017 09:35 Quesadilla wrote:
Anybody figure out how to get rid of the mouse lag? Playing on 4k monitors :/

if you have an older computer on 4K... in game:

a. options -> video -> unenable bilinear filtering. (returns cpu requirements closer to 1.16?)
b. think of FPS cap like apm cap for lag. Enable it and lower the better. Going over = lag (still experimenting with it off)

1.18 lag issues seem to be related to your CPU being Remastered ready or not.

I very much doubt that the bilinear filtering is being done on the CPU. You also probably want to be careful enabling FPS cap, as it's at least mildly related to the loss of inputs (and probably mouse lag as well) people are complaining about. Best thing to try would be turning off unit portraits and vsync.

definitely turn off portraits and vsync in addition but i feel this has been covered. turning off bilinear does help, tested it on slow comp myself.
From the ashes, a fire shall be woken. A light from the shadow shall spring. Renewed shall be blade that was broken. The crownless again shall be king.
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