BW Patch 1.18.6 is Live - Page 30

On April 22 2017 12:41 Crimson)S(hadow wrote:
the battle.net interface is stupid and inferior to the old one

1) it's a bitch to join a friend's game, in the old interface you'd be able to just click alt+j>enter if you've previously already been a friends game name

2) it's a bitch to join private games, it was a million times easier to input game name/pw with hotkeys instead of typing in the search function like a retard or scrolling through the trillions of game list like a pleb. friend follow programs would make this bearable but none of them work anymore

3) there's a bug where sometimes your game name shows up on game list as duplicates, making it harder for people to join the real one you're hosting

4) why is there a buffer/loading screen when creating a games? why can't it just be instant like 1.16?

On April 22 2017 13:14 TT1 wrote:
hotkey rebind confirmed

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/starcraft/topic/20754425665#post-11

On April 22 2017 17:46 Cele wrote:


meh. i was hoping for no rebinds.

On April 22 2017 19:30 trutaCz wrote:
I am curious, what problems u have with rebinds? U dont have to use them, are you afraid u will be pushed miles behind in terms of getting better if u are not gonna use custom hotkeys and someone is going to, really? This just reminds me of thinking "what mouse should i buy to play better"..... This is really the thing which helps out newcomers, beginners, old school players to come back.

On April 22 2017 20:41 r.Evo wrote:

If you ask me personally here are a few points, I'm probably missing some important ones but that's my take on it:

1) "Gameplay would not be changed from the original StarCraft: Brood War." - That's how the remaster was advertised and that's what at least I expected. Hotkey layouts, at least in my book, are part of the gameplay. That means either Blizzard doesn't consider these things part of gameplay (which is a scary idea because that means lots of other things aren't part of it either) or we've been told false info from the start.

2) We can all agree that hotkeys in BW aren't ideal. The question is whether this is a bad thing or not. After all the Brood War people grew up on, the Brood War that nurtured the scene for almost 20 years did just fine with them. Discussions around which pro does which setup are integral to learning a new race and part of it is working around the fixed layout. It's part of the game and gives it more flavor than everyone pressing the same buttons on the same grid.

3) The classic slippery slope argument: In a vacuum rebindable hotkeys are a good thing from my perspective. Some people have physical issues where this helps them, others like the same binds across multiple games, these types of things are all good valid reasons for something like this. However simply because it's a just a small QoL change I think it's a scary precedent. Now that we have higher resolution zooming out a bit would just be appropriate for modern times, right? Hell, things like MBS or bigger control groups can be great ideas with the exact same logic. What about a colorblind mode that adds better contrasts for everyone?

Once you add too much QoL you start attacking the mechanical foundation of the gameplay and it's no longer even remotely the same.

Overall, to me, everything that goes on after the five second countdown is part of the gameplay. Just pushing up resolution doesn't affect this but for example invisible units getting a better visible color would. Analogue even the most basic things like hotkeys aren't something you can seperate from the gameplay and claim it doesn't matter at all.

It does influence gameplay, no matter how you look at it. Here my hope is that it's an absolute exception and not a sign of a basic design principle that shows how Blizzard understands "Gameplay won't be changed from the original".