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MKStyles
Profile Joined April 2017
106 Posts
April 20 2017 11:51 GMT
#341
On April 20 2017 20:46 mdb wrote:
Quit bitching about hotkeys and play like a real man.



for real? im a new player and i play on the ptr with my own hotkeys and now i should play again with new ones all across the keybord?
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10067 Posts
April 20 2017 11:52 GMT
#342
On April 20 2017 20:51 MKStyles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2017 20:46 mdb wrote:
Quit bitching about hotkeys and play like a real man.



for real? im a new player and i play on the ptr with my own hotkeys and now i should play again with new ones all across the keybord?


git gud and hit the gym, train your body so it can handle the stress of playing bw
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2753 Posts
April 20 2017 12:03 GMT
#343
how do you join a private game (password n shit) this patch?
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
mrdx
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Vietnam1555 Posts
April 20 2017 12:06 GMT
#344
I'm playing v1.18 on Mac and can't for the life of me figure out how to set control groups. Pressing Shift + numbers works but only for once, I can't change the group selection.

Have no idea why Cmd doesn't seem to do anything.

Anyone could help?
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IPS.Blue
Profile Joined January 2004
Germany309 Posts
April 20 2017 12:24 GMT
#345
On April 20 2017 20:30 niilzon wrote:
I will NEVER come back to SC/BW if they don't put the custom hotkeys back in.


It is highly likely they removed custom hotkeys only temporarily as the PTR implementation had poor usability and they want to rework it in a significant way.
I hope they even extend custom hotkeys support to include the ability to rebind control groups or screen locations. That would be kind of useful for people with keyboards that do not have function keys.
dibban
Profile Joined July 2008
Sweden1279 Posts
April 20 2017 12:29 GMT
#346
On April 20 2017 08:49 REDBLUEGREEN wrote:
My impression of 1.18 so far:
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[image loading]

You sir, are a genius.
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aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
April 20 2017 12:36 GMT
#347
On April 20 2017 21:24 blueslobster wrote:
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On April 20 2017 20:30 niilzon wrote:
I will NEVER come back to SC/BW if they don't put the custom hotkeys back in.


It is highly likely they removed custom hotkeys only temporarily as the PTR implementation had poor usability and they want to rework it in a significant way.
I hope they even extend custom hotkeys support to include the ability to rebind control groups or screen locations. That would be kind of useful for people with keyboards that do not have function keys.

Wait what?

Your keyboard does not have function keys? Better stay away from our game, dude. You're not worth playing it. Git gud hit da gym grow balls.

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/s


Some people here... I know you can have extreme opinions on hotkeys and such but grow the fuck up and stop treating people like shit. And don't sell me this loud criticism = passion bullshit, you either discuss like a normal person or act like a retard.
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Eridanus
Profile Joined April 2017
United States75 Posts
April 20 2017 12:48 GMT
#348
I can't believe so many people here are openly admitting to cheating (using a hack to rebind hotkeys). How is that less worse than maphacking?
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
April 20 2017 12:55 GMT
#349
Having the custom hotkeys is a plus, not having it is the standard, people have been playing like this for 19 years.

Feeling entitled to have custom hotkeys is very laughable, you sound like one of those whiny kids in the market throwing a tantrum cause mommy didn't buy you chocolate.
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-20 12:56:38
April 20 2017 12:56 GMT
#350
On April 20 2017 21:48 Eridanus wrote:
I can't believe so many people here are openly admitting to cheating (using a hack to rebind hotkeys). How is that less worse than maphacking?

How is literally cheating worse than changing keybinds a feature that almost every game has and that StarCraft will have soon enough?

No idea my friend.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Eridanus
Profile Joined April 2017
United States75 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-20 13:01:16
April 20 2017 12:58 GMT
#351
On April 20 2017 21:56 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2017 21:48 Eridanus wrote:
I can't believe so many people here are openly admitting to cheating (using a hack to rebind hotkeys). How is that less worse than maphacking?

How is literally cheating worse than changing keybinds a feature that almost every game has and that StarCraft will have soon enough?

No idea my friend.


How is literally cheating giving a small advantage worse than literally cheating giving a big advantage?

(And considering the way some respond, I am led to believe playing without changing hotkeys for them is a bigger disadvantage than not being able to see the complete map.)


Also, people having been cheating for 19 years, be it maphack or hotkey rebind hack, doesn't make it ok to cheat eventually. Getting away with it for so long doesn't suddenly make it 'not cheating'.



Anyway, I am still not convinced that the latency right now is #L2. I want to see evidence. And why isn't it #L1?
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-20 13:02:53
April 20 2017 13:00 GMT
#352
On April 20 2017 21:58 Eridanus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2017 21:56 Ansibled wrote:
On April 20 2017 21:48 Eridanus wrote:
I can't believe so many people here are openly admitting to cheating (using a hack to rebind hotkeys). How is that less worse than maphacking?

How is literally cheating worse than changing keybinds a feature that almost every game has and that StarCraft will have soon enough?

No idea my friend.


How is literally cheating giving a small advantage worse than literally cheating giving a big advantage?



Anyway, I am still not convinced that the latency right now is #L2. I want to see evidence. And why isn't it #L1?

In every game maphacking is considered cheating as far as I know.

In what games is changing keybinds considered cheating? Regardless, it's going to get added by Blizzard eventually.

'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Eridanus
Profile Joined April 2017
United States75 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-20 13:04:50
April 20 2017 13:02 GMT
#353
Isn't hacking the game considered cheating in all games?


SC2 has MBS and unlimited unit selection. If you hack SC to have that, is that also 'not cheating'? What about games that do not have a fog of war? There must be one out there.



You cannot use how inconvenient it is for you to play with classic hotkeys as an argument as to why it is not cheating to hack the SC BW hotkeys.
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
April 20 2017 13:03 GMT
#354
On April 20 2017 20:51 MKStyles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2017 20:46 mdb wrote:
Quit bitching about hotkeys and play like a real man.



for real? im a new player and i play on the ptr with my own hotkeys and now i should play again with new ones all across the keybord?


If you're very uncomfortable you could try some Windows key rebinders. I haven't looked too much into it but AutoHotkey and KeyTweak might do the job.
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-20 13:07:19
April 20 2017 13:06 GMT
#355
On April 20 2017 22:02 Eridanus wrote:
Isn't hacking the game considered cheating in all games?


SC2 has MBS and unlimited unit selection. If you hack SC to have that, is that also 'not cheating'? What about games that do not have a fog of war? There must be one out there.



You cannot use how inconvenient it is for you to play with classic hotkeys as an argument as to why it isn't cheating.

Keybinds aren't a part of the game, the other things are.

Blizzard is still going to add this to the game properly, either when Remastered comes around or before.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Eridanus
Profile Joined April 2017
United States75 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-20 13:08:29
April 20 2017 13:07 GMT
#356
What do you mean 'keybinds aren't a part of the game'? There are no keybinds in SC BW, yes. But there is also no maphack in SC BW. *confused*



So considering your second argument, if I believe, falsely or not, that Blizzard will eventually remove the fog of war completely, does that mean I can then use a hack to do it today?
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-20 13:13:54
April 20 2017 13:07 GMT
#357
Nothing can really stop people from doing OS key rebinding. I would rather not have the illusion that nobody on the ladder is using it.

Unless maybe you set starcraft up to run in a Unikernel, but my OS knowledge ain't that good.
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
Eridanus
Profile Joined April 2017
United States75 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-20 13:15:31
April 20 2017 13:13 GMT
#358
Considering that SC2 still has maphackers, I agree there will be people cheating in SC BW as well. But for SC2 and with people encouraging or admitting maphack on TL, there would be a certain consequences.
In the same way, if we cannot trust you to not hack to get key rebindings, how can we trust you not to maphack as well?


Look, I can understand the argument for wanting Blizzard to add hotkey rebinds. But that is entirely different about claiming that if Blizzard doen't add it, you will hack their game to get that advantage anyway.
IPS.Blue
Profile Joined January 2004
Germany309 Posts
April 20 2017 13:29 GMT
#359
On April 20 2017 22:02 Eridanus wrote:
You cannot use how inconvenient it is for you to play with classic hotkeys as an argument as to why it is not cheating to hack the SC BW hotkeys.


You can just use a fully programmable keyboard like the GH60. No hacking necessary.

Under the assumption that Blizzard wants to maximize the number of people playing SC:R, it makes sense for them to offer exactly the same degree of hotkey customization that SC2 has. Otherwise it is hard for people to transition from one game to the other.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 20 2017 13:33 GMT
#360
I noticed the bug that key presses are not registered and I got low APM. I mostly noticed it while trying to micro vultures.
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