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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On April 06 2017 09:49 Liquid`Jinro wrote: They could be given cushy figurehead deals, then use their fame to just build up a new generation of recognizable stars. Probably more likely to just ride the renaissance while it lasts tho. But if SC:R really takes off maybe they'll do something like that? For example in sc2, NaDa was in oGs but he didn't live in the team house, he had his own place and just came by to practice. Not unreasonable to do something like that I think... Don't get me wrong i would love it if they did something like that. I actually think the big 4 should do whatever they can to help the scene overall (which is why i was kinda disappointed that they won't participate in SSL). But at the same time they are basically streamers now and every hour not spent streaming is lost money. But sure if SC:R would be a hit and younger players would pick up the game, there would be a teamleague going on i would hope that TBLS use their star power to push that concept as hard as they can. The whole bw scene/industry surely knows that TBLS are incredibly important for the potential success of a new professional esports scene. | ||
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Fakelove
6 Posts
On April 06 2017 09:49 Liquid`Jinro wrote: They could be given cushy figurehead deals, then use their fame to just build up a new generation of recognizable stars. Probably more likely to just ride the renaissance while it lasts tho. But if SC:R really takes off maybe they'll do something like that? For example in sc2, NaDa was in oGs but he didn't live in the team house, he had his own place and just came by to practice. Not unreasonable to do something like that I think... This. The stars will probably be the one's setting the terms. I dont see any team refusing to take flash even if he says he will do whatever he wants whenever he wants as longs as he will show up to the matches. | ||
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
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CrayonPopChoa
Canada761 Posts
On April 06 2017 09:41 Vorxxx wrote: It's just hype, Brood War will not be back more than a year. I bet it lasts longer than this account of yours | ||
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duke91
Germany1458 Posts
On April 06 2017 09:56 The_Red_Viper wrote: Don't get me wrong i would love it if they did something like that. I actually think the big 4 should do whatever they can to help the scene overall (which is why i was kinda disappointed that they won't participate in SSL). But at the same time they are basically streamers now and every hour not spent streaming is lost money. But sure if SC:R would be a hit and younger players would pick up the game, there would be a teamleague going on i would hope that TBLS use their star power to push that concept as hard as they can. The whole bw scene/industry surely knows that TBLS are incredibly important for the potential success of a new professional esports scene. You really think they don't realize that them not participating would hurt them in the long-run? It is so short-sighted to suggest that the players are short-sighted. They all are aware that if the BW scene is healthy, they are going to have healthy streaming numbers. And what forbids them from streaming while in a team house? LoL SKT T1 streams all the time on twitch these days. They may stream less, or even more because in a team house they don't need to take care of real life stuff themselves (grocery, housekeeping, taxes whatever) | ||
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supernovamaniac
United States3048 Posts
tl;dr: Lot of speculations ("teams are keeping an eye on the scene, writer mentioning that if leagues for BW come back then it'll natually lead to teams re-forming their respective teams, SKT and KT are denying that they'll form SC2 teams again but the 'industry experts' are saying that if leagues come back then SKT and KT will probably re-form their teams) On April 06 2017 10:09 duke91 wrote: And what forbids them from streaming while in a team house? LoL SKT T1 streams all the time on twitch these days. They may stream less, or even more because in a team house they don't need to take care of real life stuff themselves (grocery, housekeeping, taxes whatever) Just like the old days, the team's desire to do well will prevent them from streaming at regular hours, if they were to form professional teams again under the same standards Remember: they didn't even want to release replays to anyone because they tried so hard to keep everything secret from each other. | ||
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SirGlinG
Sweden933 Posts
As Jinro mentioned about NaDA, there are more solutions than a full return back to the old days of Kespas exact rules and organization.For a BW-scenet o blossom I'm convinced it would need something similar to Kespa, but if such a thing would be created then TBLS would be in positions of power and have a say during it's creation. I'm hoping Samsung goes back to Sponsor Stork, so he can stream and compete in their name. (MBC->Bisu, KT-> Flash etc) It'd be a small investment for a good safe market. And It could be a small first step to old and new teams coming up, as Jangbi and Fantasy could join in as well, and in the best of worlds a teamleague could grow out of this. I can see things go this way or some other way to the same goal, but I find it hard to see new talent coming up and having a chance to really compete. That's the biggest problem here. But I'll be happy if we ge justt another couple of years with some kind of BW pro scene. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
But as Jinro pointed out there are surely other ways to make it work. I simply don't see JD ever being part of a teamhouse environment again. Helping new players out here and there? Yeah that seems more likely. But that's all more or less assumptions anyway, first there needs to be SC:R being a huge hit, then a new teamleague needs to start , etc. | ||
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Jealous
10415 Posts
On April 06 2017 09:34 Fakelove wrote: Imagine if Flash, JD and Bisu all end up in the same team... Won't ever happen. Back in ProLeague they were intentionally kept separate because everyone knew it would be total bullshit and would be detrimental to the scene. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On April 06 2017 10:16 The_Red_Viper wrote: It's not only about streaming, the whole teamhouse environment is something these players probably aren't excited about. Now they can literally do what they want, when they want, etc. But as Jinro pointed out there are surely other ways to make it work. I simply don't see JD ever being part of a teamhouse environment again. Helping new players out here and there? Yeah that seems more likely. ya, while players have fond memories of being with others, I think there are many who didn't like the practice environment itself. Once someone taste freedom, it's hard to go imo. Will have to wait and see how SC:R ends up but I'm cautiously optimistic that maybe even a small PL can start up again. | ||
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duke91
Germany1458 Posts
On April 06 2017 10:12 supernovamaniac wrote: I don't feel like translating, I'm too rusty for this. tl;dr: Lot of speculations ("teams are keeping an eye on the scene, writer mentioning that if leagues for BW come back then it'll natually lead to teams re-forming their respective teams, SKT and KT are denying that they'll form SC2 teams again but the 'industry experts' are saying that if leagues come back then SKT and KT will probably re-form their teams) Just like the old days, the team's desire to do well will prevent them from streaming at regular hours, if they were to form professional teams again under the same standards Remember: they didn't even want to release replays to anyone because they tried so hard to keep everything secret from each other. Doubt it. It is impossible to enforce the best players not to stream because either 1) they won't join the team or 2) they would lose too much money. They will likely stream but try not to reveal any strategies. At best only players tendencies will be revealed, not complete strategies. On April 06 2017 10:16 The_Red_Viper wrote: It's not only about streaming, the whole teamhouse environment is something these players probably aren't excited about. Now they can literally do what they want, when they want, etc. But as Jinro pointed out there are surely other ways to make it work. I simply don't see JD ever being part of a teamhouse environment again. Helping new players out here and there? Yeah that seems more likely. But that's all more or less assumptions anyway, first there needs to be SC:R being a huge hit, then a new teamleague needs to start , etc. Who says anything about a team house? ATB worked without it. | ||
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Lachrymose
Australia1928 Posts
On April 06 2017 10:06 fabiano wrote: Make this man wear this jersey again: I liked the 2008 uniform, personally. Though of course nothing compares to the MBC Game uniform he wore before it. | ||
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Broodwar4lyf
304 Posts
It's just how nature works, figuring out how to balance stream income or leveraging that in negotiations with Corporate people is always a good problem to have. If this turns out great I think Broodwar will become a permanent fixture in Korean Culture from hereon out. The fact that blizzard intentionally attempted infanticide on broodwar by throwing so much money at SC2 and crippling even youtube videos of nevake and kespa licenses on organizers etc - still broodwar survived on one scv and rebuilt it's base. It just won't die and there wont be an SC3, I think some RTS hybrid with a different name will come out instead. We won guys lol | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19399 Posts
On April 06 2017 10:06 fabiano wrote: Make this man wear this jersey again: Only way that happens is if AirForce Ace gets a team. | ||
Waxangel
United States33713 Posts
Hopefully StarCraft: Remastered brings in a lot of new users, and in conjunction with leagues and proteams, a healthy ecosystem can be recreated. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
I'm sure the will among broadcasters, players, and possible proteams exists to remake a scene. Sponsors, though, are the bottleneck here. Are they willing to stake their sponsorship money on a game tainted by match fixing? Hard to say. So I can only be cautiously optimistic. | ||
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XERX
85 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37124 Posts
On April 06 2017 09:37 atrox_ wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/DsJpPIz.png) I would gladly do a full translation if it warranted it but IMO, I don't think this does. They're not even in talks to start a new team. The article is just saying that it could be a possibility if SC : R revived a team league in Korea again. | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On April 06 2017 09:37 The_Red_Viper wrote: I doubt the big players would actually want to be part of teams again. These guys have so much freedom now, there is no way they would go back into teamhouses i think. But yeah let's wait for a translation first I could see that. Unless, of course, a new generation starts off and starts improving under the practice regimen to the point where they start beating TBLS in events, forcing TBLS to either hop on the train or practice very focused. | ||
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