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SKT,KT consider new BW team

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K.H.J
Profile Blog Joined January 2017
Korea (South)769 Posts
April 06 2017 00:18 GMT
#1
Source : http://m.biz.newdaily.co.kr/m/m_article.html?no=10129644


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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19299 Posts
April 06 2017 00:17 GMT
#2
Seeker please! ^
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sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2550 Posts
April 06 2017 00:18 GMT
#3
Bring back broodwar to its glory!
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raff100
Profile Joined April 2011
498 Posts
April 06 2017 00:23 GMT
#4
Flash is gonna be the ultimate weapon of KT once again ...
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
April 06 2017 00:27 GMT
#5
Revival of BW
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Fakelove
Profile Joined April 2017
6 Posts
April 06 2017 00:34 GMT
#6
On April 06 2017 09:23 raff100 wrote:
Flash is gonna be the ultimate weapon of KT once again ...

Imagine if Flash, JD and Bisu all end up in the same team...
Kazi25
Profile Joined July 2016
Philippines236 Posts
April 06 2017 00:34 GMT
#7
Waiting for translation. ♥♥♥♥
xTJx
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil419 Posts
April 06 2017 00:37 GMT
#8
I told people this was going to happen years ago, they said there was no way.

Broodwar is the true RTS.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 06 2017 00:37 GMT
#9
I doubt the big players would actually want to be part of teams again. These guys have so much freedom now, there is no way they would go back into teamhouses i think.

But yeah let's wait for a translation first
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atrox_
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1711 Posts
April 06 2017 00:37 GMT
#10
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CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
April 06 2017 00:37 GMT
#11
On April 06 2017 09:34 Fakelove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 09:23 raff100 wrote:
Flash is gonna be the ultimate weapon of KT once again ...

Imagine if Flash, JD and Bisu all end up in the same team...

That would be awful, because we couldn't see them play against each other in team matches.
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Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
April 06 2017 00:39 GMT
#12
Intrigued...
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
April 06 2017 00:41 GMT
#13
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K.H.J
Profile Blog Joined January 2017
Korea (South)769 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-06 00:42:11
April 06 2017 00:41 GMT
#14
I want to translate, but i'm not good at english. Someon who can read korean in here translate plz. And it is just posiibility. Not specific plan.
starithm
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States118 Posts
April 06 2017 00:41 GMT
#15
Great news!!!
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Vorxxx
Profile Joined March 2017
3 Posts
April 06 2017 00:41 GMT
#16
It's just hype, Brood War will not be back more than a year.
Fakelove
Profile Joined April 2017
6 Posts
April 06 2017 00:43 GMT
#17
On April 06 2017 09:37 CDRdude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 09:34 Fakelove wrote:
On April 06 2017 09:23 raff100 wrote:
Flash is gonna be the ultimate weapon of KT once again ...

Imagine if Flash, JD and Bisu all end up in the same team...

That would be awful, because we couldn't see them play against each other in team matches.


Yeah, still the idea of them being in the same team is epic.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
April 06 2017 00:47 GMT
#18
Well, are there any ongoing BW teamleagues? If there are, then I could totally see this happening. But if not, why would anyone want a team w/o a teamleague?
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
April 06 2017 00:49 GMT
#19
On April 06 2017 09:37 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I doubt the big players would actually want to be part of teams again. These guys have so much freedom now, there is no way they would go back into teamhouses i think.

But yeah let's wait for a translation first

They could be given cushy figurehead deals, then use their fame to just build up a new generation of recognizable stars.

Probably more likely to just ride the renaissance while it lasts tho. But if SC:R really takes off maybe they'll do something like that?

For example in sc2, NaDa was in oGs but he didn't live in the team house, he had his own place and just came by to practice. Not unreasonable to do something like that I think...
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ZeroChrome
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1001 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-06 00:53:54
April 06 2017 00:53 GMT
#20
I wonder how the main pro clans will react to this. Currently its kind of hard to see a true team competition starting up when practically all current pros are divided into 3 teams that probably don't want to split up their rosters. We already know that the players themselves don't have the kind of collective initiative to organize something like that anyway.

KeSPA to the rescue?
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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
April 06 2017 00:56 GMT
#21
Proleague pls
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 06 2017 00:56 GMT
#22
On April 06 2017 09:49 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 09:37 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I doubt the big players would actually want to be part of teams again. These guys have so much freedom now, there is no way they would go back into teamhouses i think.

But yeah let's wait for a translation first

They could be given cushy figurehead deals, then use their fame to just build up a new generation of recognizable stars.

Probably more likely to just ride the renaissance while it lasts tho. But if SC:R really takes off maybe they'll do something like that?

For example in sc2, NaDa was in oGs but he didn't live in the team house, he had his own place and just came by to practice. Not unreasonable to do something like that I think...

Don't get me wrong i would love it if they did something like that. I actually think the big 4 should do whatever they can to help the scene overall (which is why i was kinda disappointed that they won't participate in SSL). But at the same time they are basically streamers now and every hour not spent streaming is lost money.
But sure if SC:R would be a hit and younger players would pick up the game, there would be a teamleague going on i would hope that TBLS use their star power to push that concept as hard as they can. The whole bw scene/industry surely knows that TBLS are incredibly important for the potential success of a new professional esports scene.

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Fakelove
Profile Joined April 2017
6 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-06 00:58:39
April 06 2017 00:58 GMT
#23
On April 06 2017 09:49 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 09:37 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I doubt the big players would actually want to be part of teams again. These guys have so much freedom now, there is no way they would go back into teamhouses i think.

But yeah let's wait for a translation first

They could be given cushy figurehead deals, then use their fame to just build up a new generation of recognizable stars.

Probably more likely to just ride the renaissance while it lasts tho. But if SC:R really takes off maybe they'll do something like that?

For example in sc2, NaDa was in oGs but he didn't live in the team house, he had his own place and just came by to practice. Not unreasonable to do something like that I think...


This. The stars will probably be the one's setting the terms. I dont see any team refusing to take flash even if he says he will do whatever he wants whenever he wants as longs as he will show up to the matches.
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
April 06 2017 01:06 GMT
#24
Make this man wear this jersey again:

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CrayonPopChoa
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada761 Posts
April 06 2017 01:07 GMT
#25
On April 06 2017 09:41 Vorxxx wrote:
It's just hype, Brood War will not be back more than a year.



I bet it lasts longer than this account of yours
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duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-06 01:11:29
April 06 2017 01:09 GMT
#26
On April 06 2017 09:56 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 09:49 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On April 06 2017 09:37 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I doubt the big players would actually want to be part of teams again. These guys have so much freedom now, there is no way they would go back into teamhouses i think.

But yeah let's wait for a translation first

They could be given cushy figurehead deals, then use their fame to just build up a new generation of recognizable stars.

Probably more likely to just ride the renaissance while it lasts tho. But if SC:R really takes off maybe they'll do something like that?

For example in sc2, NaDa was in oGs but he didn't live in the team house, he had his own place and just came by to practice. Not unreasonable to do something like that I think...

Don't get me wrong i would love it if they did something like that. I actually think the big 4 should do whatever they can to help the scene overall (which is why i was kinda disappointed that they won't participate in SSL). But at the same time they are basically streamers now and every hour not spent streaming is lost money.
But sure if SC:R would be a hit and younger players would pick up the game, there would be a teamleague going on i would hope that TBLS use their star power to push that concept as hard as they can. The whole bw scene/industry surely knows that TBLS are incredibly important for the potential success of a new professional esports scene.



You really think they don't realize that them not participating would hurt them in the long-run? It is so short-sighted to suggest that the players are short-sighted. They all are aware that if the BW scene is healthy, they are going to have healthy streaming numbers.

And what forbids them from streaming while in a team house? LoL SKT T1 streams all the time on twitch these days. They may stream less, or even more because in a team house they don't need to take care of real life stuff themselves (grocery, housekeeping, taxes whatever)
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supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3047 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-06 01:15:00
April 06 2017 01:12 GMT
#27
I don't feel like translating, I'm too rusty for this.

tl;dr: Lot of speculations ("teams are keeping an eye on the scene, writer mentioning that if leagues for BW come back then it'll natually lead to teams re-forming their respective teams, SKT and KT are denying that they'll form SC2 teams again but the 'industry experts' are saying that if leagues come back then SKT and KT will probably re-form their teams)

On April 06 2017 10:09 duke91 wrote:
And what forbids them from streaming while in a team house? LoL SKT T1 streams all the time on twitch these days. They may stream less, or even more because in a team house they don't need to take care of real life stuff themselves (grocery, housekeeping, taxes whatever)


Just like the old days, the team's desire to do well will prevent them from streaming at regular hours, if they were to form professional teams again under the same standards

Remember: they didn't even want to release replays to anyone because they tried so hard to keep everything secret from each other.
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SirGlinG
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden933 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-06 01:16:44
April 06 2017 01:14 GMT
#28
My impression from how TBLS have spoken about BW and it's future in interviews is that they very much realize their importance and roles in a resurgin BW-scene. And ofc that they very much want it to do well.

As Jinro mentioned about NaDA, there are more solutions than a full return back to the old days of Kespas exact rules and organization.For a BW-scenet o blossom I'm convinced it would need something similar to Kespa, but if such a thing would be created then TBLS would be in positions of power and have a say during it's creation.

I'm hoping Samsung goes back to Sponsor Stork, so he can stream and compete in their name. (MBC->Bisu, KT-> Flash etc) It'd be a small investment for a good safe market. And It could be a small first step to old and new teams coming up, as Jangbi and Fantasy could join in as well, and in the best of worlds a teamleague could grow out of this.

I can see things go this way or some other way to the same goal, but I find it hard to see new talent coming up and having a chance to really compete. That's the biggest problem here. But I'll be happy if we ge justt another couple of years with some kind of BW pro scene.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 06 2017 01:16 GMT
#29
It's not only about streaming, the whole teamhouse environment is something these players probably aren't excited about. Now they can literally do what they want, when they want, etc.
But as Jinro pointed out there are surely other ways to make it work. I simply don't see JD ever being part of a teamhouse environment again. Helping new players out here and there? Yeah that seems more likely.


But that's all more or less assumptions anyway, first there needs to be SC:R being a huge hit, then a new teamleague needs to start , etc.
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10243 Posts
April 06 2017 01:20 GMT
#30
On April 06 2017 09:34 Fakelove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 09:23 raff100 wrote:
Flash is gonna be the ultimate weapon of KT once again ...

Imagine if Flash, JD and Bisu all end up in the same team...

Won't ever happen. Back in ProLeague they were intentionally kept separate because everyone knew it would be total bullshit and would be detrimental to the scene.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
April 06 2017 01:20 GMT
#31
On April 06 2017 10:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:
It's not only about streaming, the whole teamhouse environment is something these players probably aren't excited about. Now they can literally do what they want, when they want, etc.
But as Jinro pointed out there are surely other ways to make it work. I simply don't see JD ever being part of a teamhouse environment again. Helping new players out here and there? Yeah that seems more likely.

ya, while players have fond memories of being with others, I think there are many who didn't like the practice environment itself. Once someone taste freedom, it's hard to go imo. Will have to wait and see how SC:R ends up but I'm cautiously optimistic that maybe even a small PL can start up again.
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duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-06 01:23:40
April 06 2017 01:22 GMT
#32
On April 06 2017 10:12 supernovamaniac wrote:
I don't feel like translating, I'm too rusty for this.

tl;dr: Lot of speculations ("teams are keeping an eye on the scene, writer mentioning that if leagues for BW come back then it'll natually lead to teams re-forming their respective teams, SKT and KT are denying that they'll form SC2 teams again but the 'industry experts' are saying that if leagues come back then SKT and KT will probably re-form their teams)

Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 10:09 duke91 wrote:
And what forbids them from streaming while in a team house? LoL SKT T1 streams all the time on twitch these days. They may stream less, or even more because in a team house they don't need to take care of real life stuff themselves (grocery, housekeeping, taxes whatever)


Just like the old days, the team's desire to do well will prevent them from streaming at regular hours, if they were to form professional teams again under the same standards

Remember: they didn't even want to release replays to anyone because they tried so hard to keep everything secret from each other.


Doubt it. It is impossible to enforce the best players not to stream because either
1) they won't join the team or
2) they would lose too much money.

They will likely stream but try not to reveal any strategies. At best only players tendencies will be revealed, not complete strategies.

On April 06 2017 10:16 The_Red_Viper wrote:
It's not only about streaming, the whole teamhouse environment is something these players probably aren't excited about. Now they can literally do what they want, when they want, etc.
But as Jinro pointed out there are surely other ways to make it work. I simply don't see JD ever being part of a teamhouse environment again. Helping new players out here and there? Yeah that seems more likely.


But that's all more or less assumptions anyway, first there needs to be SC:R being a huge hit, then a new teamleague needs to start , etc.


Who says anything about a team house? ATB worked without it.
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Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
April 06 2017 01:51 GMT
#33
On April 06 2017 10:06 fabiano wrote:
Make this man wear this jersey again:

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I liked the 2008 uniform, personally.

Though of course nothing compares to the MBC Game uniform he wore before it.
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Broodwar4lyf
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
304 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-06 02:01:14
April 06 2017 02:01 GMT
#34
Throw money at competitive BW = New talent (yay)
It's just how nature works, figuring out how to balance stream income or leveraging that in negotiations with Corporate people is always a good problem to have. If this turns out great I think Broodwar will become a permanent fixture in Korean Culture from hereon out. The fact that blizzard intentionally attempted infanticide on broodwar by throwing so much money at SC2 and crippling even youtube videos of nevake and kespa licenses on organizers etc - still broodwar survived on one scv and rebuilt it's base. It just won't die and there wont be an SC3, I think some RTS hybrid with a different name will come out instead. We won guys lol
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19299 Posts
April 06 2017 02:01 GMT
#35
On April 06 2017 10:06 fabiano wrote:
Make this man wear this jersey again:

[image loading]

Only way that happens is if AirForce Ace gets a team.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33492 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-06 02:07:51
April 06 2017 02:06 GMT
#36
The introduction of professional team + infrastructure is going to be critical if you want BW to have a real future with fresh blood, and not just our present senior tour. There's just no proper system for anyone to get into BW full-time now, since past fame is basically the most valuable asset in the current ecosystem.

Hopefully StarCraft: Remastered brings in a lot of new users, and in conjunction with leagues and proteams, a healthy ecosystem can be recreated.
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
April 06 2017 02:13 GMT
#37
Sounds like it's all contingent upon a league to play in being introduced. A quiet "we'll do our part if we have reason to believe it'll be worth it."

I'm sure the will among broadcasters, players, and possible proteams exists to remake a scene. Sponsors, though, are the bottleneck here. Are they willing to stake their sponsorship money on a game tainted by match fixing? Hard to say. So I can only be cautiously optimistic.
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XERX
Profile Joined April 2017
85 Posts
April 06 2017 02:25 GMT
#38
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37044 Posts
April 06 2017 02:32 GMT
#39
On April 06 2017 09:37 atrox_ wrote:
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I would gladly do a full translation if it warranted it but IMO, I don't think this does. They're not even in talks to start a new team. The article is just saying that it could be a possibility if SC : R revived a team league in Korea again.
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
April 06 2017 02:41 GMT
#40
On April 06 2017 09:37 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I doubt the big players would actually want to be part of teams again. These guys have so much freedom now, there is no way they would go back into teamhouses i think.

But yeah let's wait for a translation first


I could see that. Unless, of course, a new generation starts off and starts improving under the practice regimen to the point where they start beating TBLS in events, forcing TBLS to either hop on the train or practice very focused.
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
April 06 2017 02:56 GMT
#41
Let's face it, former progamers are a shadow of their peak in their current form. Certainly, part of it is that TBLS and the like have already reached retirement age, but part of the other problem is that they don't have the consistent, rigorous practice schedule they used to. A progaming house would give those who are in one a very significant advantage, such that those "free spirits" will start to be crowded out.

Though perhaps progamers may want to negotiate for changes in rules that were not-so-friendly towards them since the Kespa years.
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plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
April 06 2017 02:57 GMT
#42
Oh shit, now I can say SKT is subpar KT again!
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I wasbanned fromthis
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
113 Posts
April 06 2017 03:12 GMT
#43
easier to gamble on than sc2
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-06 04:51:10
April 06 2017 03:19 GMT
#44
On April 06 2017 09:34 Fakelove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 09:23 raff100 wrote:
Flash is gonna be the ultimate weapon of KT once again ...

Imagine if Flash, JD and Bisu all end up in the same team...


Terrible... like when Lebron and Bosh when to the Heat... stacking is bad.

We want those guys to face each other!
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
April 06 2017 03:49 GMT
#45
On April 06 2017 11:56 LegalLord wrote:
Let's face it, former progamers are a shadow of their peak in their current form. Certainly, part of it is that TBLS and the like have already reached retirement age, but part of the other problem is that they don't have the consistent, rigorous practice schedule they used to. A progaming house would give those who are in one a very significant advantage, such that those "free spirits" will start to be crowded out.

Though perhaps progamers may want to negotiate for changes in rules that were not-so-friendly towards them since the Kespa years.


This narrative is so stupid, reurgitated and based on nothing. If you just compare the level of play in ZvT of 2012 vs today, you see how much higher the skill ceiling became. Current lategame ZvT is WAY more multitasking focused due to the meta switch. If anything I see an increase in skill.

Don't make it as if they all are at the skill level of 2004
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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
April 06 2017 04:13 GMT
#46
I would not be surprised if Blizzard themselves injected a bit of money into the SC:R tourney scene when it comes out as a marketing move to show off the game, which would bring back a lot of legends and current top BW players, however the longevity of the scene there is contingent on new blood. Teams are not going to be able to create sustainable and centralized teams that are able to truly recapture the classic teamhouse approach. That would only happen with younger players looking to go pro, which we unfortunately cannot really see right now due to the limited tournaments that happen, which are mostly dominated by the household names and players who have stuck with BW.

I really hope that it happens, watching clips of BW matche, knowing Boxer even though I didnt play melee growing up and being intrigued by "professional gaming" is truly what guided me into esports. I would love for SKT/KT and other teams to develop a rekindling of the BW scene, and if SC:R is really a huge success in Korea and gamers there really embrace it, then who knows? The only teams I could see making BW teams in Korea would be SKT, KT, CJ, and maybe Afreeca Freecs. Jin Air could but they would probably have to drop most SC2 players to compensate for team/Proleague. The rest of KR's teams are mostly tied to LoL and have no previous history in RTS.
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vesicular
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1310 Posts
April 06 2017 04:17 GMT
#47
On April 06 2017 09:49 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
They could be given cushy figurehead deals, then use their fame to just build up a new generation of recognizable stars.


If BW is going to stay viable long term it will need new stars. I'm all for new team houses to create the next round of talent. TBLS is only going to maintain the scene for so long.
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SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
April 06 2017 04:23 GMT
#48
I want this more than I want to lose my virginity.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6180 Posts
April 06 2017 04:25 GMT
#49
On April 06 2017 09:37 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I doubt the big players would actually want to be part of teams again. These guys have so much freedom now, there is no way they would go back into teamhouses i think.

But yeah let's wait for a translation first

What about lower tier player who does not make that much money out of streaming? I'm sure they would soon be beating Flash and Last if they had professional training.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4186 Posts
April 06 2017 04:49 GMT
#50
On April 06 2017 09:49 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 09:37 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I doubt the big players would actually want to be part of teams again. These guys have so much freedom now, there is no way they would go back into teamhouses i think.

But yeah let's wait for a translation first

They could be given cushy figurehead deals, then use their fame to just build up a new generation of recognizable stars.

Probably more likely to just ride the renaissance while it lasts tho. But if SC:R really takes off maybe they'll do something like that?

For example in sc2, NaDa was in oGs but he didn't live in the team house, he had his own place and just came by to practice. Not unreasonable to do something like that I think...

I cant imagine they would pay nearly as much as streaming does. Flash made 50k in February alone....

but its possible, by bw teams "coming back", they dont go the full 9 yards with the coaches and the teamhouse, but just give them money to wear the jersey to tournaments. Similiar to how western teams pay for FGC pros.
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Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
April 06 2017 04:49 GMT
#51
I think it's very possible with SCR which will definitely bring interest and hype to the scene.

What's the level of hype right now in Korea regarding SCR?
Akara12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2016
164 Posts
April 06 2017 05:12 GMT
#52
I don't want another Proleague. It was awesome but I've seen too much of it. Maybe another team league with a significantly different format.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-06 05:20:33
April 06 2017 05:16 GMT
#53
On April 06 2017 11:56 LegalLord wrote:
Let's face it, former progamers are a shadow of their peak in their current form. Certainly, part of it is that TBLS and the like have already reached retirement age, but part of the other problem is that they don't have the consistent, rigorous practice schedule they used to. A progaming house would give those who are in one a very significant advantage, such that those "free spirits" will start to be crowded out.

Though perhaps progamers may want to negotiate for changes in rules that were not-so-friendly towards them since the Kespa years.


This is certainly possible, but at the same time I think it's worth noting that amateur players relative performances haven't risen. For amateurs that weren't practice partners I would think that level of skill would be similar now as to 8 years ago. It's not as if amateurs played 12 hours a day back then and now are playing 3.

In this case, we would expect the skill gap between amateurs and pro's to have decreased. Unfortunately amateurs don't play that many games versus the KeSPA pro's in this new era, but my sense is that when it comes to non ex pro (amateur) vs KeSPA ex pro the amateur players are still getting bopped hard.

I absolutely think that saying "shadow of their former peak" is a major overstatement. It's possible the level is not as high as 2010, but if so I don't think you could take a random 2010 dude like a Sharp or Rush and expect him to 3-0 present day FlaSh.
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Pippah
Profile Joined January 2010
Denmark356 Posts
April 06 2017 05:17 GMT
#54
Omg yes please let this happen <3 !
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51500 Posts
April 06 2017 05:22 GMT
#55
teams are a pipe dream, not enough skilled players.
individual sponsorships aren't out of the question though.
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
April 06 2017 05:27 GMT
#56
We are unlikely to have the grand, 12-team league that we had in ages past again. But a consistent BW support network, rather than simply a streaming presence, would give it some much-needed means towards longevity.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10239 Posts
April 06 2017 05:29 GMT
#57
i just want the teams to actually market their jerseys so i can buy them. thank you
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Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
April 06 2017 05:38 GMT
#58
Well think of it like this. TBLS is basically the modern version of Boxer/Yell0w/Garimto/Giyom back in the 2001 era and Proleague didn't even start out with that many teams in 2002. You gotta start somewhere.

So I think its not out of a question if we see a profession BW scene in 5 years.
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onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
April 06 2017 05:50 GMT
#59
i cant help it the child inside of me is going completely NUTS
Zera
Profile Joined April 2010
Lithuania716 Posts
April 06 2017 05:50 GMT
#60
I would love them to take some amatuers and make them stars instead. We need new heroes. And we could have a Proleague with SKT, KT, MoO, NeoX and that new team... WGA? or smth..
JD fanboy. #FPPS
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12023 Posts
April 06 2017 05:53 GMT
#61
SKT going to be BeSt KT again! WOO!

Do it SKT. Do it!
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MrMischelito
Profile Joined February 2014
347 Posts
April 06 2017 06:01 GMT
#62
wow! I wonder what this would mean. surely, they wouldn't plan to come back only for a single year or so.
ruypture
Profile Joined May 2014
United States367 Posts
April 06 2017 06:03 GMT
#63
in 2013 i said bw is seeing a steady upward trend in both popularity and playerbase.

people told me i was an idiot and that bw was dead for good. no one would ever come back to it.

+ Show Spoiler +
i told you so
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Zera
Profile Joined April 2010
Lithuania716 Posts
April 06 2017 06:09 GMT
#64
On April 06 2017 15:03 ruypture wrote:
in 2013 i said bw is seeing a steady upward trend in both popularity and playerbase.

people told me i was an idiot and that bw was dead for good. no one would ever come back to it.

+ Show Spoiler +
i told you so

Don't know what people you were talking to, but nobody in BW section considered BW as a dead game.
JD fanboy. #FPPS
HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1920 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-06 06:18:49
April 06 2017 06:18 GMT
#65
I'm sure something will happen, I'm sure they are determined to make something happen. They are probably just wondering the scale of it depending on how big SCR gets.
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bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-06 06:35:05
April 06 2017 06:34 GMT
#66
Only two teams?

I think we need to make 10 teams, each 5 players in the team. It's same like ATB include 1vs1, 2vs2.
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sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
April 06 2017 06:34 GMT
#67
Woongjin can responsor team Guemchi any time they like
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50587 Posts
April 06 2017 06:36 GMT
#68
On April 06 2017 15:34 sixfour wrote:
Woongjin can responsor team Guemchi any time they like


too bad zero is going to the army next month.
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K.H.J
Profile Blog Joined January 2017
Korea (South)769 Posts
April 06 2017 06:55 GMT
#69
Also, AfreecaTV hold another BW league.

It calls Ajae League. ( 12 only old gamers).

Ajae is funny korean word. This means man about age 30 to 50

It start today. GoRush and Cloud do many effort.
NONAMEll
Profile Joined February 2017
1 Post
April 06 2017 07:09 GMT
#70
SKT and KT are not interested in sc team
It's just the hope of a journalist.
Routa
Profile Joined July 2011
Finland43 Posts
April 06 2017 08:02 GMT
#71
ITS HAPPENING
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
April 06 2017 08:07 GMT
#72
I'd watch a BW league with SKT in it just to cheer for anyone that happens to be playing against them, even though I wont know any of the players beyond TBLS nor understand whats going on the screen.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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probelife66
Profile Joined March 2017
142 Posts
April 06 2017 08:31 GMT
#73
Slick!
Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
April 06 2017 08:35 GMT
#74
On April 06 2017 16:09 NONAMEll wrote:
SKT and KT are not interested in sc team
It's just the hope of a journalist.

There have been a number of 1-post users lately who claim to be able to speak for Korean fans and companies. "No, this company isn't actually interested. Actually, the Korean people feel this way (all of them)." It's always delivered with such conviction and certitude.

I'm skeptical about the positive news here as well, but this trend is odd to me. You'd think if they weren't trolls who wanted to stir up drama, they would be advocating skepticism in the face of PR moves instead of bluntly telling people, "I actually know what's REALLY going on, stop getting hopeful over this, be miserable, leave it alone."
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riptide
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
5673 Posts
April 06 2017 09:24 GMT
#75
This does feel like a long shot. Then again, with SC:R on the horizon, who knows?

It would be nothing short of amazing to have Proleague up and running again.
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gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
April 06 2017 09:31 GMT
#76
On April 06 2017 17:35 Aylear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 16:09 NONAMEll wrote:
SKT and KT are not interested in sc team
It's just the hope of a journalist.

There have been a number of 1-post users lately who claim to be able to speak for Korean fans and companies. "No, this company isn't actually interested. Actually, the Korean people feel this way (all of them)." It's always delivered with such conviction and certitude.

I'm skeptical about the positive news here as well, but this trend is odd to me. You'd think if they weren't trolls who wanted to stir up drama, they would be advocating skepticism in the face of PR moves instead of bluntly telling people, "I actually know what's REALLY going on, stop getting hopeful over this, be miserable, leave it alone."

I think he's just repeating (somewhat unclearly) what snm and Seeker already said: the author of this article is hypothesizing that teams could return if the scene continues to do well and SC:R succeeds, not reporting any actual concrete facts about steps that SKT or KT has made towards sponsoring a team again.
AdelSC123
Profile Joined March 2010
France362 Posts
April 06 2017 10:18 GMT
#77
I will train my first born to join KT and my second born to join SKT if that happens. (Despite being a SKT fan, I have to admit that KT has been doing a lot more for BW as of recently)
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2267 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-06 10:19:51
April 06 2017 10:19 GMT
#78
KT are SKT's worthy oponents and out favorite rivals. Without that tention, the scene is no longer the same
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50587 Posts
April 06 2017 11:31 GMT
#79
On April 06 2017 19:18 AdelSC123 wrote:
I will train my first born to join KT and my second born to join SKT if that happens. (Despite being a SKT fan, I have to admit that KT has been doing a lot more for BW as of recently)


you'd pit your own children against each other?

cruel man.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1478 Posts
April 06 2017 11:38 GMT
#80
On April 06 2017 20:31 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 19:18 AdelSC123 wrote:
I will train my first born to join KT and my second born to join SKT if that happens. (Despite being a SKT fan, I have to admit that KT has been doing a lot more for BW as of recently)


you'd pit your own children against each other?

cruel man.


Not in broodwar its not. Ask Day9 and Tasteless.
aka LRM)Cats_Paw.
Vorxxx
Profile Joined March 2017
3 Posts
April 06 2017 11:44 GMT
#81
There are many good players who play BW now, the problem are the viewers, thats all. If the people start to watch the game and make again a fanabse we will got a leagues like proleague again.

But the people are with league of league now,
esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
April 06 2017 13:07 GMT
#82
MY BODY IS READY
why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
April 06 2017 15:38 GMT
#83
Not really a newsworthy post. It's like "Yeah, if the game blows up, we might do something" from "sources". What did anyone expect?
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SirGlinG
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden933 Posts
April 06 2017 17:13 GMT
#84
On April 06 2017 15:55 K.H.J wrote:
Also, AfreecaTV hold another BW league.

It calls Ajae League. ( 12 only old gamers).

Ajae is funny korean word. This means man about age 30 to 50

It start today. GoRush and Cloud do many effort.


Is this a wish or something that happens today?

Also. A.J is one of my favourite men aged about 30 to 50;)

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byj
Profile Joined November 2015
494 Posts
April 06 2017 17:27 GMT
#85
On April 06 2017 20:38 iloveav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 20:31 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:18 AdelSC123 wrote:
I will train my first born to join KT and my second born to join SKT if that happens. (Despite being a SKT fan, I have to admit that KT has been doing a lot more for BW as of recently)


you'd pit your own children against each other?

cruel man.


Not in broodwar its not. Ask Day9 and Tasteless.

Or ToSsGirl and her sister!
zealotstim
Profile Joined February 2015
United States455 Posts
April 06 2017 18:03 GMT
#86
Oh man please bring back proleague! Maybe half bw half sc2? Am I allowed to have such dreams??
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
April 06 2017 18:07 GMT
#87
On April 07 2017 03:03 zealotstim wrote:
Oh man please bring back proleague! Maybe half bw half sc2? Am I allowed to have such dreams??

no thanks! Either it's all BW or I don't want it lol
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3687 Posts
April 06 2017 18:13 GMT
#88
On April 07 2017 03:03 zealotstim wrote:
Oh man please bring back proleague! Maybe half bw half sc2? Am I allowed to have such dreams??


That was really bad last time around. Even the live audience left once the BW part was over. Also games were very very bad as players were forced to switch games each week.

Looking at the participants of the ASL qualifier, I honestly think you could get 8 teams with like 5-8 known ex-pros + some amateurs going. The player base is there.
You'd obviously need to allow players to stream, maybe even set it up like an actual day job where they practice at the house from 9 to 5 or 9 to 8 and still live at home.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24592 Posts
April 06 2017 18:28 GMT
#89
It's happening!
Eridanus
Profile Joined April 2017
United States75 Posts
April 06 2017 18:36 GMT
#90
Half BW half SC2 was really not fun. That had such an odd dynamic. Ignoring the quality of SC2, it is just odd when the same person plays two different games. It only works when there are players that only play one game, and others only play the other game. I'd rather see 2vs2 again on true 2vs2 maps, not BGH.

Team leagues always had a fun dynamics, and seeing team mates and coaches look and respond to the game unfolding was fun.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
April 06 2017 19:30 GMT
#91
On April 07 2017 03:07 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 03:03 zealotstim wrote:
Oh man please bring back proleague! Maybe half bw half sc2? Am I allowed to have such dreams??

no thanks! Either it's all BW or I don't want it lol

I quit watching the hybrid league because it was disgusting. Never again.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
April 06 2017 20:48 GMT
#92
On April 06 2017 17:35 Aylear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 16:09 NONAMEll wrote:
SKT and KT are not interested in sc team
It's just the hope of a journalist.

There have been a number of 1-post users lately who claim to be able to speak for Korean fans and companies. "No, this company isn't actually interested. Actually, the Korean people feel this way (all of them)." It's always delivered with such conviction and certitude.

I'm skeptical about the positive news here as well, but this trend is odd to me. You'd think if they weren't trolls who wanted to stir up drama, they would be advocating skepticism in the face of PR moves instead of bluntly telling people, "I actually know what's REALLY going on, stop getting hopeful over this, be miserable, leave it alone."


I'm all for a minimum number of posts you need to have in order to be able to post here. Too many trolls around these days
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onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
April 06 2017 21:00 GMT
#93
On April 07 2017 03:07 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 03:03 zealotstim wrote:
Oh man please bring back proleague! Maybe half bw half sc2? Am I allowed to have such dreams??

no thanks! Either it's all BW or I don't want it lol


the horror of the end last proleague season of bw kespa...

bw elitist where stabbed in the heart souls where crushed what a travesty of watching mechanical legends try to duke it out in a game with low skill ceiling looking clumsy
zealotstim
Profile Joined February 2015
United States455 Posts
April 06 2017 21:01 GMT
#94
haha oh that's too bad! I wasn't watching during hybrid league, so I had no idea how bad it was. Even so, proleague would be awesome with just bw!
Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
April 06 2017 21:20 GMT
#95
If a new full League were to reappear, it needs to be without Kespa's influence. I dread the idea of pro licenses in BW again. Plus I doubt many of the ex-pros would want or accept Kespa being directly involved again.
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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24592 Posts
April 07 2017 10:39 GMT
#96
Hybrids are the epitome of evolution in the Blizzard universe, thus, we should bring back hybrid league.
Broodwar4lyf
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
304 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-07 10:49:13
April 07 2017 10:48 GMT
#97
sc2 mixed in would just be terrible, just the last one felt so dead once the BW tourney ended
and besides, sc2 tried to kill bw once, now it piggybacks to get some kind of life support? i say let it die like it did bw lol
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Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
April 07 2017 11:52 GMT
#98
OMFG SK Telecom! My heart just made a huge bump, imagine we may be seeing SK vs KT Proleague next years already?

The hype is real.
Broodwar for life!
Adan Idhren
Profile Joined April 2017
Korea (South)11 Posts
April 07 2017 12:26 GMT
#99
SKT and KT professional game teams watching over things for the reestablishment of the Brood War team

The possibility of reopening the league due to the announcement of Starcraft: Remastered
"Reestablishment unavoidable if popularity rises from a high number of fans supporting"
"Not really any discussions, but watching carefully for the future business strategies of Blizzard"

With Blizzard having announced the release of Starcraft: Remastered, it looks as though the wireless service providers running professional teams are starting to watch over things for the reestablishment of the Brood War team.

A few years ago, with the end of the Brood War leagus, teams were disbanded. However, it seems quite possible that leagues will be reopened with the release of Starcraft: Remastered.

According to the information from some related businesses, Michael Morhaime has held a conference to reporters in Seoul to notify that Starcraft: Remastered will be released.

It was said that Starcraft, he game that has captured many Korean users upon its release in 1998, will be released this summer in Ultra-High Definition.

And so, numerous gamers, as well as the teams who had participated in Brood War are stirring.

All Starcraft teams were disbanded with the end of the Brood War leagues, but with the release of Starcraft: Remastered, it is likely that the leagues will be reopened, and thus, Brood War professional team reestablishment is inevitable.

Especially, SKT and KT, who had led major corporations into establishing professional game teams, are currently running League of Legends teams, but they are now observing the situation carefully for the reopening of Brood War leagues.

Related businesses are also watching cautiously, sensitive to their choice.

It is because among the corporations running professional game teams, SKT and KT had had played a pivotal role in vitalizing the eSports market, and so their actions might lead other teams into acting.

It is generally accepted among the the people in related businesses that while SKT and KT are not currently discussing for the reestablishment, they will do so whenever possible if Brood War leagues are reopened.

A person concerned has said, "The release of Starcraft: Remastered seems to be Blizzard's tactics to raise the popularity of Brood War, by giving a reason to reopen the leagues. Already, some PC-bangs are holding small leagues for amateurs. Consumers are excited for the release of Starcraft: Remastered."

He has continued to say, "If official leagues are reopened for progamers, they will have no reason to deny the reestablishment of professional teams, who have loyal fans. Depending on the strategy of Blizzard, there will be some changes in the running plans of wireless service providing corporations."



Here's a very rough translation of the article. If any of you have questions about its content, I'll be glad to answer. The original meaning might have been terribly distorted in the translation...
Do not let down your guard, the first player may sink everyone. Do not give up your hope, the last player may change everything.
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
April 07 2017 13:23 GMT
#100
So basicaly they are saying : "if the game becomes popular, we will pick it up." The KeSPA leech is ready to feast once again. What a parasitic organisation...
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
April 07 2017 13:25 GMT
#101
I wouldn't call being willing to sponsor a necessary engine for the game's growth, contingent on it being a reasonable business move, parasitic.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-07 13:55:34
April 07 2017 13:47 GMT
#102
Haven't read much of the thread. But it will be weird if this actually happens.

Edit - KeSPA sponsoring only when the game booms. Not ideal for BW but such is the nature of business.
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0mg_t1red
Profile Joined March 2013
Russian Federation104 Posts
April 07 2017 14:19 GMT
#103
On April 07 2017 03:03 zealotstim wrote:
Oh man please bring back proleague! Maybe half bw half sc2? Am I allowed to have such dreams??

man that was epic season for sure
Adan Idhren
Profile Joined April 2017
Korea (South)11 Posts
April 07 2017 14:24 GMT
#104
Oh well, SC2 proleague really is finished, so no matter what, half BW and half SC2 won't ever happen, I guess.
Do not let down your guard, the first player may sink everyone. Do not give up your hope, the last player may change everything.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3687 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-07 14:47:12
April 07 2017 14:46 GMT
#105
On April 07 2017 21:26 Adan Idhren wrote:
[...] Already, some PC-bangs are holding small leagues for amateurs.[...]


Regardless of whether we'll see teams or even kespa run teams, this is far more important. It's been talked about ever since the environment for bringing up new talent (courage -> team houses) was cut: Brood War needs new talent to survive long term, and small tournaments for amateurs are the best way to do that. Way back when BW was first starting it was the same, lot's of small local tourneys.
MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
April 08 2017 02:18 GMT
#106
On April 06 2017 09:37 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I doubt the big players would actually want to be part of teams again. These guys have so much freedom now, there is no way they would go back into teamhouses i think.

But yeah let's wait for a translation first

teamhouses might mean there could be some new big guys though! something to keep the scene going
Broodwar4lyf
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
304 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-08 03:18:05
April 08 2017 03:17 GMT
#107
honestly id rather have the less skilled levels but sustainable and humane conditions for players to get long term survival of the esport. bringing in giant budgets and team houses will again inflate a bubble so big only to burst when viewership dips at some point since expectations will again be too immense to sustain. just make it half as big as it used to but sustainable so everybody is happy, players can somewhat play for a living now (streaming revs), i dont want to mess that up
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Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-08 04:53:15
April 08 2017 04:53 GMT
#108
what if SKT 'buys' Flash tho
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
joeyjameson
Profile Joined March 2017
37 Posts
April 08 2017 14:49 GMT
#109
Ill be on it. Recruit me. For the swarm
Th1rdEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1074 Posts
April 08 2017 15:59 GMT
#110
Do it up guys! This is great news. Something I had hoped to see with the Remaster
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lagcats
Profile Joined February 2016
172 Posts
April 08 2017 17:26 GMT
#111
This is huge.
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