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StarCraft v1.18a Patch Notes; Preparation for SC:R - Page 8

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SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
March 26 2017 17:49 GMT
#141
On March 27 2017 02:47 toriak wrote:
currently what are the exact conditions under which valk bug occurs ?


So ur with ur friends and yur playing bgh wen the phone rigns. U anser it n the vioce is "wut r u doing wit my valkyrie sprites?" U tell ur girl n she say "my valkyrie sprites r ded".
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
AmstAff
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany949 Posts
March 26 2017 18:15 GMT
#142
On March 27 2017 02:47 toriak wrote:
currently what are the exact conditions under which valk bug occurs ?


If I remember correctly the maplimit was ~1600 units. A Carrier for example counts as 1+Interceptors (8?) = 9 units. A Vulture counts as 1+ used Spider Mines = max 4. I think some of the mapfeatures were also counted as unit.
Since the rockets of a Valkyrie also count as a unit they werent able to shoot when the maplimit was already reached.
after 2 years i reached it = marine icon
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
March 26 2017 18:21 GMT
#143
if I dont have BW installed, should I wait until this patch comes out so it can launch properly with the new benefits to running on a modern rig?

or do I still need this mca64launcher and shit regardless?
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soldier8
Profile Joined December 2011
Russian Federation60 Posts
March 26 2017 18:26 GMT
#144
what about vessel's miss EMP's?
Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany909 Posts
March 26 2017 18:26 GMT
#145
On March 27 2017 02:47 toriak wrote:
currently what are the exact conditions under which valk bug occurs ?

They have a lower separate sprite limit, that's why they bug out first, when too much is going on.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/493413-sprites-in-bw-firelag#2
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Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-26 18:27:46
March 26 2017 18:27 GMT
#146
On March 27 2017 03:15 AmstAff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2017 02:47 toriak wrote:
currently what are the exact conditions under which valk bug occurs ?


If I remember correctly the maplimit was ~1600 units. A Carrier for example counts as 1+Interceptors (8?) = 9 units. A Vulture counts as 1+ used Spider Mines = max 4. I think some of the mapfeatures were also counted as unit.
Since the rockets of a Valkyrie also count as a unit they werent able to shoot when the maplimit was already reached.

it is neither the unit limit nor the absolute sprite limit but simply the weapon sprite limit, and more specifically the extra low weapon sprite limit for Valkyries (probably introduced by the developers as a clumsy workaround to preevent Valkyries taking over the whole list of weapon sprites and thus jamming all other units instead...)
Me_ToKa
Profile Joined September 2009
Bulgaria309 Posts
March 26 2017 18:28 GMT
#147
StarCraft v1.18a... Why no 1.19 to appreciate the anniversary?
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
March 26 2017 18:30 GMT
#148
On March 27 2017 03:21 mOnion wrote:
if I dont have BW installed, should I wait until this patch comes out so it can launch properly with the new benefits to running on a modern rig?

or do I still need this mca64launcher and shit regardless?
Your going to want MCA either way as its an antihack + gives lan lat in games if others have that, or a similar program enabled. The patch will hit in a week, so if you want to install now or then is just up to when you want to play.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
PuroYO
Profile Joined May 2014
Norway163 Posts
March 26 2017 18:33 GMT
#149
Am I the only one thinking that SC2 was so terrible that Blizzard had to re-master the old SC?
This is just an attempt at keeping a dying game mode alive, 1v1, it won't work.

Social gaming is the trend, SC and SC2 are based on 1v1, it simply won't be a big eSport because of that, that time has passed.

User was temp banned for this post.
Science above all. - Go Snute!
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
March 26 2017 18:40 GMT
#150
On March 27 2017 03:30 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2017 03:21 mOnion wrote:
if I dont have BW installed, should I wait until this patch comes out so it can launch properly with the new benefits to running on a modern rig?

or do I still need this mca64launcher and shit regardless?
Your going to want MCA either way as its an antihack + gives lan lat in games if others have that, or a similar program enabled. The patch will hit in a week, so if you want to install now or then is just up to when you want to play.


I've seen multiple screen shots of the proper settings to have for it to launch correctly, is there a good thread for setup?
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Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
March 26 2017 18:41 GMT
#151
On March 27 2017 03:30 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2017 03:21 mOnion wrote:
if I dont have BW installed, should I wait until this patch comes out so it can launch properly with the new benefits to running on a modern rig?

or do I still need this mca64launcher and shit regardless?
Your going to want MCA either way as its an antihack + gives lan lat in games if others have that, or a similar program enabled. The patch will hit in a week, so if you want to install now or then is just up to when you want to play.


But be advised MCA has no intentions of updating mca64Launcher to work with either 1.18 or Remastered. If you choose to continue using the launcher you WILL be stuck on 1.16.1.
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mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
March 26 2017 18:45 GMT
#152
On March 27 2017 03:41 Chris_Havoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2017 03:30 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On March 27 2017 03:21 mOnion wrote:
if I dont have BW installed, should I wait until this patch comes out so it can launch properly with the new benefits to running on a modern rig?

or do I still need this mca64launcher and shit regardless?
Your going to want MCA either way as its an antihack + gives lan lat in games if others have that, or a similar program enabled. The patch will hit in a week, so if you want to install now or then is just up to when you want to play.


But be advised MCA has no intentions of updating mca64Launcher to work with either 1.18 or Remastered. If you choose to continue using the launcher you WILL be stuck on 1.16.1.


sooo, whats the future plan for launching BW?
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Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
March 26 2017 18:47 GMT
#153
On March 27 2017 03:40 mOnion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2017 03:30 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On March 27 2017 03:21 mOnion wrote:
if I dont have BW installed, should I wait until this patch comes out so it can launch properly with the new benefits to running on a modern rig?

or do I still need this mca64launcher and shit regardless?
Your going to want MCA either way as its an antihack + gives lan lat in games if others have that, or a similar program enabled. The patch will hit in a week, so if you want to install now or then is just up to when you want to play.


I've seen multiple screen shots of the proper settings to have for it to launch correctly, is there a good thread for setup?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/414636-mca64launcher

MCA should basically just be ready to launch and go right from the download, if you have bw installed. The only issues that came up with me for broodwar consistently were colour glitches, but MCA has a feature pre-set to fix that as well. Shouldnt have any issues.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
March 26 2017 18:48 GMT
#154
On March 27 2017 03:47 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2017 03:40 mOnion wrote:
On March 27 2017 03:30 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On March 27 2017 03:21 mOnion wrote:
if I dont have BW installed, should I wait until this patch comes out so it can launch properly with the new benefits to running on a modern rig?

or do I still need this mca64launcher and shit regardless?
Your going to want MCA either way as its an antihack + gives lan lat in games if others have that, or a similar program enabled. The patch will hit in a week, so if you want to install now or then is just up to when you want to play.


I've seen multiple screen shots of the proper settings to have for it to launch correctly, is there a good thread for setup?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/414636-mca64launcher

MCA should basically just be ready to launch and go right from the download, if you have bw installed. The only issues that came up with me for broodwar consistently were colour glitches, but MCA has a feature pre-set to fix that as well. Shouldnt have any issues.


Thanks!
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jpg06051992
Profile Joined July 2015
United States580 Posts
March 26 2017 18:51 GMT
#155
Is it going to still be a 12 unit hotkey cap? Sorry if this has been answered already lol don't want to shift through that many pages.

Btw mega hyped will definitely be getting in on this, looks incredible.
"SO MANY BANELINGS!"
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-26 18:52:45
March 26 2017 18:52 GMT
#156
On March 27 2017 03:26 soldier8 wrote:
what about vessel's miss EMP's?

Its an aimed spell its supposed to miss sometimes

On March 27 2017 03:51 jpg06051992 wrote:
Is it going to still be a 12 unit hotkey cap? Sorry if this has been answered already lol don't want to shift through that many pages.

Btw mega hyped will definitely be getting in on this, looks incredible.


yes all core gameplay with the exception of goon stop bug + valk missile bug is staying
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Bareleon
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
371 Posts
March 26 2017 18:52 GMT
#157
Anyone know what day this week BW will be patched? I wanna try out the match making.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4186 Posts
March 26 2017 18:54 GMT
#158
On March 27 2017 03:33 PuroYO wrote:
Am I the only one thinking that SC2 was so terrible that Blizzard had to re-master the old SC?
This is just an attempt at keeping a dying game mode alive, 1v1, it won't work.

Social gaming is the trend, SC and SC2 are based on 1v1, it simply won't be a big eSport because of that, that time has passed.

I don't think that was on their minds. They probably just wanted to preserve the classic game and give ti more life.


What are you talking about? SC1 has been growing in players and viewership.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
March 26 2017 18:58 GMT
#159
On March 27 2017 03:54 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2017 03:33 PuroYO wrote:
Am I the only one thinking that SC2 was so terrible that Blizzard had to re-master the old SC?
This is just an attempt at keeping a dying game mode alive, 1v1, it won't work.

Social gaming is the trend, SC and SC2 are based on 1v1, it simply won't be a big eSport because of that, that time has passed.

I don't think that was on their minds. They probably just wanted to preserve the classic game and give ti more life.


What are you talking about? SC1 has been growing in players and viewership.
Dont take the bait dude, he only has one post. He's probably an alt of someone who just wants to start a flame war.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
March 26 2017 19:10 GMT
#160
On March 27 2017 03:52 Bareleon wrote:
Anyone know what day this week BW will be patched? I wanna try out the match making.

Looks like the patch is coming on Thursday according to the OP, but I don't think it'll include matchmaking. I think matchmaking will be limited to the Remastered edition.
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