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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On August 07 2016 07:43 Dangermousecatdog wrote: It'll also be very interesting if they change bw map editor so wide ramps didn't look so ugly. They should definitely update the official map editor to adopt many of the features from third party editors, such as a wider variety of ramps and better scripting. New tilesets would be great too. | ||
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404AlphaSquad
839 Posts
On August 07 2016 16:26 heronn wrote: Imo players should have possibility to select 24 "double units" like zergling. Next they should balance some totaly unused units like e.g.: - Scout: decreased cost to 250m 100g; - Ghost: Lockdown cost decreased to 75 energy and range increased to 10 (like ghost wep range); - Corsair: little increase web lenght. If there is rebalancing, which I highly doubt, it would be done by the sc2 team most likely. Because of their 6 years track record of incompetence, this wouldnt be good for BW. If they "transfer" BW to their Heroes/SC2 engine which they love so much (even though it is shit), it also wouldnt be good for BW. If they dont touch the engine code (except the sprite limitation), and just add support for hotkeys customization and a 2D Graphic update and compatibility with modern OS, maybe even implementation into bnet 2 it would be amazing for BW. | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4335 Posts
19.99 and up a bit pricey for my tastes | ||
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xboi209
United States1173 Posts
On August 07 2016 19:33 404AlphaSquad wrote: maybe even implementation into bnet 2 it would be amazing for BW. That's asking for everyone who plays on Fish and ICCup to not update. | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
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prOxi.swAMi
Australia3091 Posts
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404AlphaSquad
839 Posts
On August 07 2016 20:45 xboi209 wrote: That's asking for everyone who plays on Fish and ICCup to not update. Sure but, Matchmaking and beeing able to host without portforwarding is gold for me at least. Thats why I enjoy shieldbattery (even though it doesnt have Matchmaking yet). And tbh, we dont know yet if BW HD is gonna be free for BW owners or not anyways. | ||
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NoS-Craig
Australia3116 Posts
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classicyellow83
United States2393 Posts
On August 07 2016 21:58 404AlphaSquad wrote: Sure but, Matchmaking and beeing able to host without portforwarding is gold for me at least. Thats why I enjoy shieldbattery (even though it doesnt have Matchmaking yet). And tbh, we dont know yet if BW HD is gonna be free for BW owners or not anyways. It probably won't be and it shouldn't be. | ||
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Nazara
United Kingdom235 Posts
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B-royal
Belgium1330 Posts
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LRM)TechnicS
Bulgaria1565 Posts
A true BW revival will occur if and only waves of youngsters in many countries around the world get interested in the game enough to play on a competitive level. We have the audience already - older 23-37 yearolds that played in their younger years. But I think BW to be revived properly would need not only the competitive youngsters, but their fellows from the same age to like to watch the game as well the very least. As it was the case when I was their age, I think nowadays youngsters (10-16yearolds) like to play the newest game with the best graphics out there, that looks the coolest and has a nice gameplay. My cousin, I remember some years ago asked whether I still play the game (BW) and he joked something along the lines of "it looks like it was painted by me" (i don't remember seeing him painting like ever so there's the slighest chance he made a huge compliment there lol) and he liked BW a lot, played 1v1/2v2s together back in the days and is one year older than me. Not that my cousin's view is representative enough, but my best guess without too much of research would be that youngsters prefer SC2's graphics over BW's. It looks "cooler" to them. Now if we can trick them with an HD version into liking it more and if Blizzard invested into a good research on the matter which proves the new HD version is accepted vastly better than the previous AND than even SC2, then there's a high chance true BW revival might occur outside of Korea. In Korea would be significantly easier in theory but with the rise of popularity of LOL and many other games in Korea, maybe it will be harder than expected. I like when old pros return to stream BW. But all we have is old korean faces returning until they go to the military. The number of brand new young chogosus in my eyes is limited to that team that Sonic formed that had Sharp as a coach. Bale, Bishop, Olympus and perhaps someone else I forgot. I only see Bale streaming from time to time and liquipedia has Olympus described as "a retired StarCraft progamer from South Korea who played Protoss". Maybe Scan can join in here with some description of the current level of youngsters (i don't consider Scan a new face fwiw). I doubt there's a single absolutely new face that can beat all former pros consistently. Even if Jiko was some new chogosu player (the chance for that is very low) - he and Bale won't revive BW alone in Korea. It would require much more IMHO. Maybe we should wait and see if Jaedong returns what would the impact be, but still ... | ||
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Crisium
United States1618 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Also I could live with a Scout buff. Just let it have full speed by default if nothing else. | ||
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
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trutaCz
Poland686 Posts
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
an overhaul that just addressed graphics and aspect ratio would be HUGE wins. All you have to do is NOT fuck it up, blizzard. | ||
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Dental Floss
United States1015 Posts
On August 08 2016 01:25 trutaCz wrote: You have SC2 with unlimited selection and BW with limited selection, if SC2 players want to play BW they have to learn it, simple as that o_o. It doesnt make sense to change the game because some guys cant handle the mechanics of BW.. I see all these guys at the gym benchpressing with like 4 plates on each side of the bar. I think that weight manufacturers should release lighter versions of those plates so I can do that too. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On August 08 2016 01:31 Dental Floss wrote: I see all these guys at the gym benchpressing with like 4 plates on each side of the bar. I think that weight manufacturers should release lighter versions of those plates so I can do that too. This is such a bad analogy though. If people don't have fun with the old mechanics then that's a problem. You want a game which people enjoy. At the same time i totally can see that all these limitations and bugs make bw what it is. The best solution therefore would be two modes, one with easier mechanics, the other bw as it is now. | ||
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
On August 08 2016 01:25 trutaCz wrote: You have SC2 with unlimited selection and BW with limited selection, if SC2 players want to play BW they have to learn it, simple as that o_o. It doesnt make sense to change the game because some guys cant handle the mechanics of BW.. Remasters exist to entice new players to play classic games by pushing it towards today's standards. I wouldn't assume this is Blizzard giving the remaining BW core a nice charitable graphics update. If you take off your BW glasses and imagine what it would be like to play BW as an RTS player in 2016, I don't think you'd be stoked to be stuck with unit selections of 12, archaic pathing and an inability to select multiple buildings at once. Blizzard is trying to make a profit so I wouldn't be so sure that they're going to keep this purely at a graphics update. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On August 08 2016 02:02 Saechiis wrote: Remasters exist to entice new players to play classic games by pushing it towards today's standards. I wouldn't assume this is Blizzard giving the remaining BW core a nice charitable graphics update. If you take off your BW glasses and imagine what it would be like to play BW as an RTS player in 2016, I don't think you'd be stoked to be stuck with unit selections of 12, archaic pathing and an inability to select multiple buildings at once. I agree with all of that, BUT all these things make bw what it is. If you remove these aspects the chances are high that the game changes dramatically, probably for the worse (if we don't value more accessibility) | ||
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