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On August 06 2016 03:10 Heyjoray wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2016 03:08 Essbee wrote:On August 06 2016 03:07 Heyjoray wrote:On August 06 2016 03:04 duke91 wrote:On August 06 2016 03:01 Little-Chimp wrote:On August 06 2016 02:29 Cele wrote:On August 06 2016 02:19 Little-Chimp wrote:On August 06 2016 02:12 Cele wrote:On August 06 2016 02:04 Little-Chimp wrote:On August 06 2016 00:53 GoShox wrote:
I know the main feeling is to have no faith in Blizzard, and I completely understand that. SC2 is/was a disaster. That said, they nailed Overwatch and Hearthstone, so they're clearly capable of doing things the right way. I would hope they have the common sense to know that increasing the number of units per group would completely break the game, and I think they do. If they can manage to not break anything while also giving us a central server with LAN latency and auto matchmaking, that'd be incredible. Maybe I'm too optimistic for my own good, but I have faith that this will be a good thing. Remind me how the game that popularized esports in America was a disaster Remind me again how you're not just a troll /pissed SC2 fanboy who tries to stir up trouble in the BW section. Remind me how you aren't asspained and paranoid as fuck. I like BW more than SC2. SC2 was still a roaring success despite being worse than arguably the greatest multiplayer game of all time Remind me again why i even bother talking to you. Oh now i know, i got no reason to. I've been in TL since 2008 as a massive BW fan and I find it pretty pathetic how saying anything positive (literally calling it "not shit") about SC2 in the BW forum gets people this upset. It's a great day for BW, theres a remaster and ASL is kick ass, what the fuck are you so insecure about In case you didn't know, Blizzard is blamed for killing professional BW by forcing SC2 in everyones throat. This wouldn't be a problem if SC2 was good. For most if not all here, it isn't. Suggesting BW to change towards SC2 basically insults what we prefer with BW. Forcing = Releasing a new game. Makes perfect sense Wow, you shit on bw fans but have actually zero idea of what blizzard tried to do while releasing sc2, do you? Yeah, they surpressed the endless amount of piracy in korea
How cute.
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On August 06 2016 03:01 Little-Chimp wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2016 02:29 Cele wrote:On August 06 2016 02:19 Little-Chimp wrote:On August 06 2016 02:12 Cele wrote:On August 06 2016 02:04 Little-Chimp wrote:On August 06 2016 00:53 GoShox wrote:
I know the main feeling is to have no faith in Blizzard, and I completely understand that. SC2 is/was a disaster. That said, they nailed Overwatch and Hearthstone, so they're clearly capable of doing things the right way. I would hope they have the common sense to know that increasing the number of units per group would completely break the game, and I think they do. If they can manage to not break anything while also giving us a central server with LAN latency and auto matchmaking, that'd be incredible. Maybe I'm too optimistic for my own good, but I have faith that this will be a good thing. Remind me how the game that popularized esports in America was a disaster Remind me again how you're not just a troll /pissed SC2 fanboy who tries to stir up trouble in the BW section. Remind me how you aren't asspained and paranoid as fuck. I like BW more than SC2. SC2 was still a roaring success despite being worse than arguably the greatest multiplayer game of all time Remind me again why i even bother talking to you. Oh now i know, i got no reason to. I've been in TL since 2008 as a massive BW fan and I find it pretty pathetic how saying anything positive (literally calling it "not shit") about SC2 in the BW forum gets people this upset. It's a great day for BW, theres a remaster and ASL is kick ass, what the fuck are you so insecure about
I enjoy both BW and SC2. But many people still blame Blizzard for killing the pro BW scene during the KeSPA era because of Blizzard's lawsuit against KeSPA, OGN, and MBCGame. This was one major reason along with the matchfixing scandal for many teams disbanding at that time and MBCGame shifting to broadcasting kpop instead of esports. So many people still have the mentality that SC2 and BW are competition, and are bitter about Blizzard's actions which I find understandable.
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On August 06 2016 03:07 Essbee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2016 03:03 Shinokuki wrote:On August 06 2016 02:57 Essbee wrote:On August 06 2016 02:54 duke91 wrote:On August 06 2016 02:48 bduddy wrote:
Also. Why the hell are people asking for BW HD to not change anything? It's not like BW will be deleted from your computers. It will still exist, and you can still play it if you want to. Making a new game with zero changes would be pointless and stupid. It's stupid how people who never post on the BW forum ever, never discuss the game itself now suggests BW to fundamentally change. 99% who ACTUALLY play BW don't want anything to change. But then, what would be the point of shieldbattery and why would people be so hyped about it (it changes stuff, it just keeps the gameplay intact)? You're not getting the essence of this. If you change the gameplay by making auto mine, unlimited unit selection, and perfect pathing available its practically a sc2 but probably way more unbalanced and game breaking. I do understand when some people may want auto match making system, portraits, Observor mode, rank, hotkey settings, and other non game breaking aspect. But if you want it LIKE sc2 then what's the point then? You could just go play sc2. If you do change it like sc2 it will be worse version of sc2 -_- What? Why are you quoting me on this?
if you are the owner of a bar and do u think making an expansion will give you more money wont you try the same ? ok the product wasnt the best,but if it wasnt for Korea no one proly cared about Starcraft Broodwar.People posting here forgot who the creator of Starcraft is ?
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I hope they fix the unit movement and make it crisper, while still making it feel like the original.
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On August 06 2016 03:12 iamho wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2016 03:01 Little-Chimp wrote:On August 06 2016 02:29 Cele wrote:On August 06 2016 02:19 Little-Chimp wrote:On August 06 2016 02:12 Cele wrote:On August 06 2016 02:04 Little-Chimp wrote:On August 06 2016 00:53 GoShox wrote:
I know the main feeling is to have no faith in Blizzard, and I completely understand that. SC2 is/was a disaster. That said, they nailed Overwatch and Hearthstone, so they're clearly capable of doing things the right way. I would hope they have the common sense to know that increasing the number of units per group would completely break the game, and I think they do. If they can manage to not break anything while also giving us a central server with LAN latency and auto matchmaking, that'd be incredible. Maybe I'm too optimistic for my own good, but I have faith that this will be a good thing. Remind me how the game that popularized esports in America was a disaster Remind me again how you're not just a troll /pissed SC2 fanboy who tries to stir up trouble in the BW section. Remind me how you aren't asspained and paranoid as fuck. I like BW more than SC2. SC2 was still a roaring success despite being worse than arguably the greatest multiplayer game of all time Remind me again why i even bother talking to you. Oh now i know, i got no reason to. I've been in TL since 2008 as a massive BW fan and I find it pretty pathetic how saying anything positive (literally calling it "not shit") about SC2 in the BW forum gets people this upset. It's a great day for BW, theres a remaster and ASL is kick ass, what the fuck are you so insecure about I enjoy both BW and SC2. But many people still blame Blizzard for killing the pro BW scene during the KeSPA era because of Blizzard's lawsuit against KeSPA, OGN, and MBCGame. This was one major reason along with the matchfixing scandal for many teams disbanding at that time and MBCGame shifting to broadcasting kpop instead of esports. So many people still have the mentality that SC2 and BW are competition, and are bitter about Blizzard's actions which I find understandable.
Not only that, but kespa forced everyone to switch. The whole league (with their contracts) were forced to switch to another game, just because the game has "starcraft" in its name (making pro-bw disappear in the process).
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On August 06 2016 03:14 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2016 03:07 Essbee wrote:On August 06 2016 03:03 Shinokuki wrote:On August 06 2016 02:57 Essbee wrote:On August 06 2016 02:54 duke91 wrote:On August 06 2016 02:48 bduddy wrote:
Also. Why the hell are people asking for BW HD to not change anything? It's not like BW will be deleted from your computers. It will still exist, and you can still play it if you want to. Making a new game with zero changes would be pointless and stupid. It's stupid how people who never post on the BW forum ever, never discuss the game itself now suggests BW to fundamentally change. 99% who ACTUALLY play BW don't want anything to change. But then, what would be the point of shieldbattery and why would people be so hyped about it (it changes stuff, it just keeps the gameplay intact)? You're not getting the essence of this. If you change the gameplay by making auto mine, unlimited unit selection, and perfect pathing available its practically a sc2 but probably way more unbalanced and game breaking. I do understand when some people may want auto match making system, portraits, Observor mode, rank, hotkey settings, and other non game breaking aspect. But if you want it LIKE sc2 then what's the point then? You could just go play sc2. If you do change it like sc2 it will be worse version of sc2 -_- What? Why are you quoting me on this? if you are the owner of a bar and do u think making an expansion will give you more money wont you try the same ? ok the product wasnt the best,but if it wasnt for Korea no one proly cared about Starcraft Broodwar.People posting here forgot who the creator of Starcraft is ?
Chances are there is no one left who developed BW who is currently working for Blizzard. So no, I don't see Blizzard NOW as the creator of SCBW. Even then, it was the Koreans, the progaming scene and pioneers and their passion for their game which made BW great. Blizzard should be thankful for Korea, not the other way around. But repeatly Blizzard NOW stomped on this legacy without any sign of gratitude.
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On August 06 2016 03:21 duke91 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2016 03:14 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:On August 06 2016 03:07 Essbee wrote:On August 06 2016 03:03 Shinokuki wrote:On August 06 2016 02:57 Essbee wrote:On August 06 2016 02:54 duke91 wrote:On August 06 2016 02:48 bduddy wrote:
Also. Why the hell are people asking for BW HD to not change anything? It's not like BW will be deleted from your computers. It will still exist, and you can still play it if you want to. Making a new game with zero changes would be pointless and stupid. It's stupid how people who never post on the BW forum ever, never discuss the game itself now suggests BW to fundamentally change. 99% who ACTUALLY play BW don't want anything to change. But then, what would be the point of shieldbattery and why would people be so hyped about it (it changes stuff, it just keeps the gameplay intact)? You're not getting the essence of this. If you change the gameplay by making auto mine, unlimited unit selection, and perfect pathing available its practically a sc2 but probably way more unbalanced and game breaking. I do understand when some people may want auto match making system, portraits, Observor mode, rank, hotkey settings, and other non game breaking aspect. But if you want it LIKE sc2 then what's the point then? You could just go play sc2. If you do change it like sc2 it will be worse version of sc2 -_- What? Why are you quoting me on this? if you are the owner of a bar and do u think making an expansion will give you more money wont you try the same ? ok the product wasnt the best,but if it wasnt for Korea no one proly cared about Starcraft Broodwar.People posting here forgot who the creator of Starcraft is ? Chances are there is no one left who developed BW who is currently working for Blizzard. So no, I don't see Blizzard NOW as the creator of SCBW. Even then, it was the Koreans, the progaming scene and pioneers and their passion for their game which made BW great. Blizzard should be thankful for Korea, not the other way around. But repeatly Blizzard NOW stomped on this legacy without any sign of gratitude.
10 million copies of Starcraft/Brood War sold. How many of them in korea? And dont you dare saying that korea advertised starcraft for the masses
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Im not sure how I even feel about this... BW is making a big return... I hope this wont alter the gameplay at all but even with a higher resolution and more stuff on the screen things will change...
Art update + Battle.Net or w/e improvements sure...
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you are a litteral god ASM
thx for the meme-ories
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inb4 Jaedong returns to BW with star1 HD.
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On August 06 2016 03:18 Hexe wrote:
I hope they fix the unit movement and make it crisper, while still making it feel like the original.
When i watched Tasteless and Artosis cast some brood-war, a few months ago. I thought the same, all the units move so jerky to how I'm accustomed. It was kind of jarring.
I know most people would just like them to make BW playable on modern PC's but i would like some polishing up.
I don't know almost anything about code, though I wonder if its possible to add animations between the existing unit animations. Though make it so, the new animations are only visually present to the player.
The Software and code should still read that the units are physically moving exactly like BW. I think that way it could look a lot more crisp, without hurting the feel of the BW units.
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Katowice25012 Posts
On August 06 2016 03:21 duke91 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2016 03:14 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:On August 06 2016 03:07 Essbee wrote:On August 06 2016 03:03 Shinokuki wrote:On August 06 2016 02:57 Essbee wrote:On August 06 2016 02:54 duke91 wrote:On August 06 2016 02:48 bduddy wrote:
Also. Why the hell are people asking for BW HD to not change anything? It's not like BW will be deleted from your computers. It will still exist, and you can still play it if you want to. Making a new game with zero changes would be pointless and stupid. It's stupid how people who never post on the BW forum ever, never discuss the game itself now suggests BW to fundamentally change. 99% who ACTUALLY play BW don't want anything to change. But then, what would be the point of shieldbattery and why would people be so hyped about it (it changes stuff, it just keeps the gameplay intact)? You're not getting the essence of this. If you change the gameplay by making auto mine, unlimited unit selection, and perfect pathing available its practically a sc2 but probably way more unbalanced and game breaking. I do understand when some people may want auto match making system, portraits, Observor mode, rank, hotkey settings, and other non game breaking aspect. But if you want it LIKE sc2 then what's the point then? You could just go play sc2. If you do change it like sc2 it will be worse version of sc2 -_- What? Why are you quoting me on this? if you are the owner of a bar and do u think making an expansion will give you more money wont you try the same ? ok the product wasnt the best,but if it wasnt for Korea no one proly cared about Starcraft Broodwar.People posting here forgot who the creator of Starcraft is ? Chances are there is no one left who developed BW who is currently working for Blizzard. So no, I don't see Blizzard NOW as the creator of SCBW. Even then, it was the Koreans, the progaming scene and pioneers and their passion for their game which made BW great. Blizzard should be thankful for Korea, not the other way around. But repeatly Blizzard NOW stomped on this legacy without any sign of gratitude.
Mike Morhaime, who coded much of the multiplayer work on the original Battlenet for BW, is the CEO of the company.
This thread is a mess but for what its worth, the first time I met Morhaime he called the whole Blizzard-KeSPA debacle one of the biggest mistakes of his career.
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Does HD just refer to high resolutions or new sprites, animations etc?
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United States996 Posts
looks like im going to have to buy bw again. feel like if youve bought it 10+ times in your life you should get the hd version free
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Whenever I turn on my critical thinking with regards to music, videos, games, art..something instructive is to equate flaws to limitations. Have your coffee and have your tea
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I'm excited even if they don't quite get it perfect.
If it is as good as the Age of Empires 2 HD remake I will be ecstatic.
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Can someone speak to how reliable the source is? These rumours have popped up here and there for a while now but nothing solid to go by. Anything special about this that has got everyone's attention?
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Kerence
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On August 06 2016 03:50 Heyoka wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2016 03:21 duke91 wrote:On August 06 2016 03:14 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:On August 06 2016 03:07 Essbee wrote:On August 06 2016 03:03 Shinokuki wrote:On August 06 2016 02:57 Essbee wrote:On August 06 2016 02:54 duke91 wrote:On August 06 2016 02:48 bduddy wrote:
Also. Why the hell are people asking for BW HD to not change anything? It's not like BW will be deleted from your computers. It will still exist, and you can still play it if you want to. Making a new game with zero changes would be pointless and stupid. It's stupid how people who never post on the BW forum ever, never discuss the game itself now suggests BW to fundamentally change. 99% who ACTUALLY play BW don't want anything to change. But then, what would be the point of shieldbattery and why would people be so hyped about it (it changes stuff, it just keeps the gameplay intact)? You're not getting the essence of this. If you change the gameplay by making auto mine, unlimited unit selection, and perfect pathing available its practically a sc2 but probably way more unbalanced and game breaking. I do understand when some people may want auto match making system, portraits, Observor mode, rank, hotkey settings, and other non game breaking aspect. But if you want it LIKE sc2 then what's the point then? You could just go play sc2. If you do change it like sc2 it will be worse version of sc2 -_- What? Why are you quoting me on this? if you are the owner of a bar and do u think making an expansion will give you more money wont you try the same ? ok the product wasnt the best,but if it wasnt for Korea no one proly cared about Starcraft Broodwar.People posting here forgot who the creator of Starcraft is ? Chances are there is no one left who developed BW who is currently working for Blizzard. So no, I don't see Blizzard NOW as the creator of SCBW. Even then, it was the Koreans, the progaming scene and pioneers and their passion for their game which made BW great. Blizzard should be thankful for Korea, not the other way around. But repeatly Blizzard NOW stomped on this legacy without any sign of gratitude. Mike Morhaime, who coded much of the multiplayer work on the original Battlenet for BW, is the CEO of the company. This thread is a mess but for what its worth, the first time I met Morhaime he called the whole Blizzard-KeSPA debacle one of the biggest mistakes of his career.
And what about Chris Metzen, who was the lead designer for Starcraft. He's now the Senior VP of the story department I believe?
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United States10328 Posts
holy moly 
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