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On August 06 2016 02:18 Heyjoray wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2016 02:13 lestye wrote:
I agree with you that their last games aren't as appalling and awful that people in this thread are making it out to be....but you're comparing BW enthusiasts to the KKK? REALLY???? Lets not. Every SC2 enthusiast is a mindless fanboy. Every BW enthusiast is correct
So you visit this forum only to flame
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Also. Why the hell are people asking for BW HD to not change anything? It's not like BW will be deleted from your computers. It will still exist, and you can still play it if you want to. Making a new game with zero changes would be pointless and stupid.
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On August 06 2016 02:48 bduddy wrote:
Also. Why the hell are people asking for BW HD to not change anything? It's not like BW will be deleted from your computers. It will still exist, and you can still play it if you want to. Making a new game with zero changes would be pointless and stupid.
Nobody said to not change anything, people specifically asked for the gameplay to not change, that's it.
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On August 06 2016 02:31 Heyjoray wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2016 02:25 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On August 06 2016 02:11 Heyjoray wrote:On August 06 2016 01:56 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On August 06 2016 01:50 Heyjoray wrote:On August 06 2016 01:48 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
I'm so conflicted. I want to be hopeful. I look at Overwatch and Hearthstone and see hope, then I look at LotV, D3 and WoW and fear creeps back in.
Heres hoping they just touch up the graphics and leave everything else alone. They do that and I'll be happy and buy it. Whats wrong with Diablo 3, WoW and LotV? Diablo 3 was a complete disaster and a shit stain on the name of Diablo games. WoW was never a huge fan of, but 100% of the people I know who play the games all say the last 3 or so expansions have been awful. Granted its a small sample size of like 15 people. Still 15/15 is not good numbers for saying its been crap. LotV killed all interest I have in the game, haven't watched a single match or played a single match since shortly after it came out. These are of course just personal opinions but to me, blizzard has shit the bed hard recently and that scares me with this upcoming BW HD. Diablo 3 is great by now. Cataclysm had his weaknesses, Mists of Pandaria was great. Warlords of Draenor could have needed another raid, but it wasnt bad. Asking for a Starcraft 2 opinion in a Brood War section is like talking with a KKK supporter about ethnic stuff. You cant win. Btw: People hated Burning Crusade and WotlK while it was active: "WOW IN SPACE LOL SO MUCH PURPLE GAYELFS TENTACLEMONSTER!! SO MUCH TRASH!". WotlK: SO EASY FUCK HARDMODES FUCK ACHIEVEMENTS FUCK THE COLLO RAID " Diablo 3 to me is still trash, but again personal opinion if you like it cool man. All I said is that I'M afraid of what they might do to BW. If other people find these games good, that is great for them. I hated Diablo 3, and I find no entertainment in LotV, I enjoyed WoL and Heart of the Swarm for the most part, it had its fault but I still played and enjoyed it. So before going all caps lock on me about WoW(Which I don't play, as I said I relied on info from friends about it.) and comparing me to the KKK ease up and realize this is all personal opinion. No need to be an ass hat. Yeah, your personal opinion is like...Well keep it for yourself. Especially when you give zero reasons. Its useless when you just shit all over the place and call it an "opinion"
pretty sure everyone who played d2 says that
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On August 06 2016 02:53 kongoline wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2016 02:31 Heyjoray wrote:On August 06 2016 02:25 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On August 06 2016 02:11 Heyjoray wrote:On August 06 2016 01:56 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On August 06 2016 01:50 Heyjoray wrote:On August 06 2016 01:48 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
I'm so conflicted. I want to be hopeful. I look at Overwatch and Hearthstone and see hope, then I look at LotV, D3 and WoW and fear creeps back in.
Heres hoping they just touch up the graphics and leave everything else alone. They do that and I'll be happy and buy it. Whats wrong with Diablo 3, WoW and LotV? Diablo 3 was a complete disaster and a shit stain on the name of Diablo games. WoW was never a huge fan of, but 100% of the people I know who play the games all say the last 3 or so expansions have been awful. Granted its a small sample size of like 15 people. Still 15/15 is not good numbers for saying its been crap. LotV killed all interest I have in the game, haven't watched a single match or played a single match since shortly after it came out. These are of course just personal opinions but to me, blizzard has shit the bed hard recently and that scares me with this upcoming BW HD. Diablo 3 is great by now. Cataclysm had his weaknesses, Mists of Pandaria was great. Warlords of Draenor could have needed another raid, but it wasnt bad. Asking for a Starcraft 2 opinion in a Brood War section is like talking with a KKK supporter about ethnic stuff. You cant win. Btw: People hated Burning Crusade and WotlK while it was active: "WOW IN SPACE LOL SO MUCH PURPLE GAYELFS TENTACLEMONSTER!! SO MUCH TRASH!". WotlK: SO EASY FUCK HARDMODES FUCK ACHIEVEMENTS FUCK THE COLLO RAID " Diablo 3 to me is still trash, but again personal opinion if you like it cool man. All I said is that I'M afraid of what they might do to BW. If other people find these games good, that is great for them. I hated Diablo 3, and I find no entertainment in LotV, I enjoyed WoL and Heart of the Swarm for the most part, it had its fault but I still played and enjoyed it. So before going all caps lock on me about WoW(Which I don't play, as I said I relied on info from friends about it.) and comparing me to the KKK ease up and realize this is all personal opinion. No need to be an ass hat. Yeah, your personal opinion is like...Well keep it for yourself. Especially when you give zero reasons. Its useless when you just shit all over the place and call it an "opinion" pretty sure everyone who played d2 says that
EVERYONE
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On August 06 2016 02:48 bduddy wrote:
Also. Why the hell are people asking for BW HD to not change anything? It's not like BW will be deleted from your computers. It will still exist, and you can still play it if you want to. Making a new game with zero changes would be pointless and stupid.
It's stupid how people who never post on the BW forum ever, never discuss the game itself now suggests BW to fundamentally change.
99% who ACTUALLY play BW don't want anything to change.
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On August 06 2016 02:54 duke91 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2016 02:48 bduddy wrote:
Also. Why the hell are people asking for BW HD to not change anything? It's not like BW will be deleted from your computers. It will still exist, and you can still play it if you want to. Making a new game with zero changes would be pointless and stupid. It's stupid how people who never post on the BW forum ever, never discuss the game itself now suggests BW to fundamentally change. 99% who ACTUALLY play BW don't want anything to change.
But then, what would be the point of shieldbattery and why would people be so hyped about it (it changes stuff, it just keeps the gameplay intact)?
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Im not sure Im going to like this, I cant play diablo2 in 3d mode its superuggly to me i only use 2d i think bw in hd will make me feel the same way... Lets hope im wrong!
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On August 06 2016 02:29 Cele wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2016 02:19 Little-Chimp wrote:On August 06 2016 02:12 Cele wrote:On August 06 2016 02:04 Little-Chimp wrote:On August 06 2016 00:53 GoShox wrote:
I know the main feeling is to have no faith in Blizzard, and I completely understand that. SC2 is/was a disaster. That said, they nailed Overwatch and Hearthstone, so they're clearly capable of doing things the right way. I would hope they have the common sense to know that increasing the number of units per group would completely break the game, and I think they do. If they can manage to not break anything while also giving us a central server with LAN latency and auto matchmaking, that'd be incredible. Maybe I'm too optimistic for my own good, but I have faith that this will be a good thing. Remind me how the game that popularized esports in America was a disaster Remind me again how you're not just a troll /pissed SC2 fanboy who tries to stir up trouble in the BW section. Remind me how you aren't asspained and paranoid as fuck. I like BW more than SC2. SC2 was still a roaring success despite being worse than arguably the greatest multiplayer game of all time Remind me again why i even bother talking to you. Oh now i know, i got no reason to.
I've been in TL since 2008 as a massive BW fan and I find it pretty pathetic how saying anything positive (literally calling it "not shit") about SC2 in the BW forum gets people this upset.
It's a great day for BW, theres a remaster and ASL is kick ass, what the fuck are you so insecure about
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On August 06 2016 02:57 Essbee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2016 02:54 duke91 wrote:On August 06 2016 02:48 bduddy wrote:
Also. Why the hell are people asking for BW HD to not change anything? It's not like BW will be deleted from your computers. It will still exist, and you can still play it if you want to. Making a new game with zero changes would be pointless and stupid. It's stupid how people who never post on the BW forum ever, never discuss the game itself now suggests BW to fundamentally change. 99% who ACTUALLY play BW don't want anything to change. But then, what would be the point of shieldbattery and why would people be so hyped about it (it changes stuff, it just keeps the gameplay intact)?
It doesn't change anything except make hosting games WAY easier + matchmaking. If you atually played BW, you would know how hard it is to set up games since blizzard never gave a shit about having an actual good Battle.net. Imagine SC2 without matchmaking, and hosting games works only 50% of the time due to technical issues.
Shield battery fixes all that and leaves gameplay unchanged.
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On August 06 2016 02:57 Essbee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2016 02:54 duke91 wrote:On August 06 2016 02:48 bduddy wrote:
Also. Why the hell are people asking for BW HD to not change anything? It's not like BW will be deleted from your computers. It will still exist, and you can still play it if you want to. Making a new game with zero changes would be pointless and stupid. It's stupid how people who never post on the BW forum ever, never discuss the game itself now suggests BW to fundamentally change. 99% who ACTUALLY play BW don't want anything to change. But then, what would be the point of shieldbattery and why would people be so hyped about it (it changes stuff, it just keeps the gameplay intact)?
You're not getting the essence of this. If you change the gameplay by making auto mine, unlimited unit selection, and perfect pathing available its practically a sc2 but probably way more unbalanced and game breaking.
I do understand when some people may want auto match making system, portraits, Observor mode, rank, hotkey settings, and other non game breaking aspect.
But if you want it LIKE sc2 then what's the point then? You could just go play sc2. If you do change it like sc2 it will be worse version of sc2 -_-
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On August 06 2016 03:01 Little-Chimp wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2016 02:29 Cele wrote:On August 06 2016 02:19 Little-Chimp wrote:On August 06 2016 02:12 Cele wrote:On August 06 2016 02:04 Little-Chimp wrote:On August 06 2016 00:53 GoShox wrote:
I know the main feeling is to have no faith in Blizzard, and I completely understand that. SC2 is/was a disaster. That said, they nailed Overwatch and Hearthstone, so they're clearly capable of doing things the right way. I would hope they have the common sense to know that increasing the number of units per group would completely break the game, and I think they do. If they can manage to not break anything while also giving us a central server with LAN latency and auto matchmaking, that'd be incredible. Maybe I'm too optimistic for my own good, but I have faith that this will be a good thing. Remind me how the game that popularized esports in America was a disaster Remind me again how you're not just a troll /pissed SC2 fanboy who tries to stir up trouble in the BW section. Remind me how you aren't asspained and paranoid as fuck. I like BW more than SC2. SC2 was still a roaring success despite being worse than arguably the greatest multiplayer game of all time Remind me again why i even bother talking to you. Oh now i know, i got no reason to. I've been in TL since 2008 as a massive BW fan and I find it pretty pathetic how saying anything positive (literally calling it "not shit") about SC2 in the BW forum gets people this upset. It's a great day for BW, theres a remaster and ASL is kick ass, what the fuck are you so insecure about
In case you didn't know, Blizzard is blamed for killing professional BW by forcing SC2 in everyones throat. This wouldn't be a problem if SC2 was good. For most if not all here, it isn't. Suggesting BW to change towards SC2 basically insults what we prefer with BW.
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On August 06 2016 03:01 duke91 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2016 02:57 Essbee wrote:On August 06 2016 02:54 duke91 wrote:On August 06 2016 02:48 bduddy wrote:
Also. Why the hell are people asking for BW HD to not change anything? It's not like BW will be deleted from your computers. It will still exist, and you can still play it if you want to. Making a new game with zero changes would be pointless and stupid. It's stupid how people who never post on the BW forum ever, never discuss the game itself now suggests BW to fundamentally change. 99% who ACTUALLY play BW don't want anything to change. But then, what would be the point of shieldbattery and why would people be so hyped about it (it changes stuff, it just keeps the gameplay intact)? It doesn't change anything except make hosting games WAY easier + matchmaking. If you atually played BW, you would know how hard it is to set up games since blizzard never gave a shit about having an actual good Battle.net. Imagine SC2 without matchmaking, and hosting games works only 50% of the time due to technical issues. Shield battery fixes all that and leaves gameplay unchanged.
I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say. I play BW, I know all that, but you said "99% of people don't want to change anything", but that's not true or else Shieldbattery wouldn't exist or people would shit on it. The guy you quoted said "making a new game with zero changes would be pointless and stupid." How can you even disagree with that if you support shieldbattery? I just feel there is a misunderstanding somewhere.
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On August 06 2016 03:04 duke91 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2016 03:01 Little-Chimp wrote:On August 06 2016 02:29 Cele wrote:On August 06 2016 02:19 Little-Chimp wrote:On August 06 2016 02:12 Cele wrote:On August 06 2016 02:04 Little-Chimp wrote:On August 06 2016 00:53 GoShox wrote:
I know the main feeling is to have no faith in Blizzard, and I completely understand that. SC2 is/was a disaster. That said, they nailed Overwatch and Hearthstone, so they're clearly capable of doing things the right way. I would hope they have the common sense to know that increasing the number of units per group would completely break the game, and I think they do. If they can manage to not break anything while also giving us a central server with LAN latency and auto matchmaking, that'd be incredible. Maybe I'm too optimistic for my own good, but I have faith that this will be a good thing. Remind me how the game that popularized esports in America was a disaster Remind me again how you're not just a troll /pissed SC2 fanboy who tries to stir up trouble in the BW section. Remind me how you aren't asspained and paranoid as fuck. I like BW more than SC2. SC2 was still a roaring success despite being worse than arguably the greatest multiplayer game of all time Remind me again why i even bother talking to you. Oh now i know, i got no reason to. I've been in TL since 2008 as a massive BW fan and I find it pretty pathetic how saying anything positive (literally calling it "not shit") about SC2 in the BW forum gets people this upset. It's a great day for BW, theres a remaster and ASL is kick ass, what the fuck are you so insecure about In case you didn't know, Blizzard is blamed for killing professional BW by forcing SC2 in everyones throat. This wouldn't be a problem if SC2 was good. For most if not all here, it isn't. Suggesting BW to change towards SC2 basically insults what we prefer with BW.
Forcing = Releasing a new game. Makes perfect sense
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On August 06 2016 03:03 Shinokuki wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2016 02:57 Essbee wrote:On August 06 2016 02:54 duke91 wrote:On August 06 2016 02:48 bduddy wrote:
Also. Why the hell are people asking for BW HD to not change anything? It's not like BW will be deleted from your computers. It will still exist, and you can still play it if you want to. Making a new game with zero changes would be pointless and stupid. It's stupid how people who never post on the BW forum ever, never discuss the game itself now suggests BW to fundamentally change. 99% who ACTUALLY play BW don't want anything to change. But then, what would be the point of shieldbattery and why would people be so hyped about it (it changes stuff, it just keeps the gameplay intact)? You're not getting the essence of this. If you change the gameplay by making auto mine, unlimited unit selection, and perfect pathing available its practically a sc2 but probably way more unbalanced and game breaking. I do understand when some people may want auto match making system, portraits, Observor mode, rank, hotkey settings, and other non game breaking aspect. But if you want it LIKE sc2 then what's the point then? You could just go play sc2. If you do change it like sc2 it will be worse version of sc2 -_-
What? Why are you quoting me on this?
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On August 06 2016 03:07 Heyjoray wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2016 03:04 duke91 wrote:On August 06 2016 03:01 Little-Chimp wrote:On August 06 2016 02:29 Cele wrote:On August 06 2016 02:19 Little-Chimp wrote:On August 06 2016 02:12 Cele wrote:On August 06 2016 02:04 Little-Chimp wrote:On August 06 2016 00:53 GoShox wrote:
I know the main feeling is to have no faith in Blizzard, and I completely understand that. SC2 is/was a disaster. That said, they nailed Overwatch and Hearthstone, so they're clearly capable of doing things the right way. I would hope they have the common sense to know that increasing the number of units per group would completely break the game, and I think they do. If they can manage to not break anything while also giving us a central server with LAN latency and auto matchmaking, that'd be incredible. Maybe I'm too optimistic for my own good, but I have faith that this will be a good thing. Remind me how the game that popularized esports in America was a disaster Remind me again how you're not just a troll /pissed SC2 fanboy who tries to stir up trouble in the BW section. Remind me how you aren't asspained and paranoid as fuck. I like BW more than SC2. SC2 was still a roaring success despite being worse than arguably the greatest multiplayer game of all time Remind me again why i even bother talking to you. Oh now i know, i got no reason to. I've been in TL since 2008 as a massive BW fan and I find it pretty pathetic how saying anything positive (literally calling it "not shit") about SC2 in the BW forum gets people this upset. It's a great day for BW, theres a remaster and ASL is kick ass, what the fuck are you so insecure about In case you didn't know, Blizzard is blamed for killing professional BW by forcing SC2 in everyones throat. This wouldn't be a problem if SC2 was good. For most if not all here, it isn't. Suggesting BW to change towards SC2 basically insults what we prefer with BW. Forcing = Releasing a new game. Makes perfect sense
Wow, you shit on bw fans but have actually zero idea of what blizzard tried to do while releasing sc2, do you?
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On August 06 2016 03:07 Essbee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2016 03:03 Shinokuki wrote:On August 06 2016 02:57 Essbee wrote:On August 06 2016 02:54 duke91 wrote:On August 06 2016 02:48 bduddy wrote:
Also. Why the hell are people asking for BW HD to not change anything? It's not like BW will be deleted from your computers. It will still exist, and you can still play it if you want to. Making a new game with zero changes would be pointless and stupid. It's stupid how people who never post on the BW forum ever, never discuss the game itself now suggests BW to fundamentally change. 99% who ACTUALLY play BW don't want anything to change. But then, what would be the point of shieldbattery and why would people be so hyped about it (it changes stuff, it just keeps the gameplay intact)? You're not getting the essence of this. If you change the gameplay by making auto mine, unlimited unit selection, and perfect pathing available its practically a sc2 but probably way more unbalanced and game breaking. I do understand when some people may want auto match making system, portraits, Observor mode, rank, hotkey settings, and other non game breaking aspect. But if you want it LIKE sc2 then what's the point then? You could just go play sc2. If you do change it like sc2 it will be worse version of sc2 -_- What? Why are you quoting me on this?
What specific changes do you want particularly?
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On August 06 2016 03:08 Essbee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2016 03:07 Heyjoray wrote:On August 06 2016 03:04 duke91 wrote:On August 06 2016 03:01 Little-Chimp wrote:On August 06 2016 02:29 Cele wrote:On August 06 2016 02:19 Little-Chimp wrote:On August 06 2016 02:12 Cele wrote:On August 06 2016 02:04 Little-Chimp wrote:On August 06 2016 00:53 GoShox wrote:
I know the main feeling is to have no faith in Blizzard, and I completely understand that. SC2 is/was a disaster. That said, they nailed Overwatch and Hearthstone, so they're clearly capable of doing things the right way. I would hope they have the common sense to know that increasing the number of units per group would completely break the game, and I think they do. If they can manage to not break anything while also giving us a central server with LAN latency and auto matchmaking, that'd be incredible. Maybe I'm too optimistic for my own good, but I have faith that this will be a good thing. Remind me how the game that popularized esports in America was a disaster Remind me again how you're not just a troll /pissed SC2 fanboy who tries to stir up trouble in the BW section. Remind me how you aren't asspained and paranoid as fuck. I like BW more than SC2. SC2 was still a roaring success despite being worse than arguably the greatest multiplayer game of all time Remind me again why i even bother talking to you. Oh now i know, i got no reason to. I've been in TL since 2008 as a massive BW fan and I find it pretty pathetic how saying anything positive (literally calling it "not shit") about SC2 in the BW forum gets people this upset. It's a great day for BW, theres a remaster and ASL is kick ass, what the fuck are you so insecure about In case you didn't know, Blizzard is blamed for killing professional BW by forcing SC2 in everyones throat. This wouldn't be a problem if SC2 was good. For most if not all here, it isn't. Suggesting BW to change towards SC2 basically insults what we prefer with BW. Forcing = Releasing a new game. Makes perfect sense Wow, you shit on bw fans but have actually zero idea of what blizzard tried to do while releasing sc2, do you?
Yeah, they surpressed the endless amount of piracy in korea
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On August 06 2016 03:09 Shinokuki wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2016 03:07 Essbee wrote:On August 06 2016 03:03 Shinokuki wrote:On August 06 2016 02:57 Essbee wrote:On August 06 2016 02:54 duke91 wrote:On August 06 2016 02:48 bduddy wrote:
Also. Why the hell are people asking for BW HD to not change anything? It's not like BW will be deleted from your computers. It will still exist, and you can still play it if you want to. Making a new game with zero changes would be pointless and stupid. It's stupid how people who never post on the BW forum ever, never discuss the game itself now suggests BW to fundamentally change. 99% who ACTUALLY play BW don't want anything to change. But then, what would be the point of shieldbattery and why would people be so hyped about it (it changes stuff, it just keeps the gameplay intact)? You're not getting the essence of this. If you change the gameplay by making auto mine, unlimited unit selection, and perfect pathing available its practically a sc2 but probably way more unbalanced and game breaking. I do understand when some people may want auto match making system, portraits, Observor mode, rank, hotkey settings, and other non game breaking aspect. But if you want it LIKE sc2 then what's the point then? You could just go play sc2. If you do change it like sc2 it will be worse version of sc2 -_- What? Why are you quoting me on this? What specific changes do you want particularly?
Shieldbattery, basically. So no changes to the gameplay, at all.
Read my last post quoting duke91, I was just explaining a misunderstanding between them, I am a huge bw fan.
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