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kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2042 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-02 13:58:11
August 02 2016 13:57 GMT
#401
Msg was vissible (twice) so we just have to wait for the translation. Happened 30 seconds before my message if anyone can check.

Also, Flash was checking where Jiko is just now..
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
August 02 2016 14:01 GMT
#402
On August 02 2016 21:19 Andre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 13:23 Letmelose wrote:
On August 02 2016 11:51 duke91 wrote:
On August 02 2016 11:49 LaStScan wrote:
On August 01 2016 00:36 c3rberUs wrote:
He's "still playing for fun" so #45 sounds about right?

Hes trying to learn like a student behavior. Since he missed like a couple years and current trend so he's acting like his old amateur time. Good starting pt to get back into the game.
Btw once he targets someone, he will play like 20 games in a row until hes satisfied beating the opponent.


Is this style of practice unique to JD? I heard July back in the days would just spam 30-40 games a day and I thought that is what all progamers do to some extent


Jaedong's worth ethic is something that everybody has praised, and is in my opinion, unparalleled in its longevity and intensity. July was an exceptional work horse during his peak, but due to various circumstances could not withstand the test of time. Also, there were numerous great players such as NaDa and sAviOr, who did not practice all that much, I mean, here's what Flash had to say about the great NaDa.

"In terms of gaming capabilities, the greatest genius of them all. That would be an apt summary. Remember that I was there besides him. I nearly quit gaming out of despair. He would play Sudden Attack all day, but still would go to all these finals. He didn't practice that much while I was there. But he would still win, it was simply mind boggling. The most mind boggling thing was how he would play games with me, then make my builds into his own. After just seeing it once! And it would feel like he would use them better than me. These builds that I spent all that time perfecting."

There are also numerous tales of NaDa just playing a couple of off-race games before huge finals and leaving it at that, and listening to music during tournament games.

However, with Jaedong, it's not just the sheer number of games that is astounding, it's the intensity with which he approached these practice games. He would record the results of every single practice sessions, and get mad as hell with even the smallest mistakes he might make. I remember Tyson saying that Jaedong would curse and rage every time he missed a dropship appearing on the mini-map during practice.

That's just crazy, if true. I've always had the most respect for Nada simply because he won starleagues in such vastly different eras of BW.

I don't believe it completely though. I'm sure NaDa massed as much as the others, there would be a sort of meta advantage if other people thought he didn't. If it demoralized Flash, it would demoralize anyone.

Didn't Savi0r practice like 19 hours a day or something crazy for a while?
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
August 02 2016 14:10 GMT
#403
On August 02 2016 13:23 Letmelose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 11:51 duke91 wrote:
On August 02 2016 11:49 LaStScan wrote:
On August 01 2016 00:36 c3rberUs wrote:
He's "still playing for fun" so #45 sounds about right?

Hes trying to learn like a student behavior. Since he missed like a couple years and current trend so he's acting like his old amateur time. Good starting pt to get back into the game.
Btw once he targets someone, he will play like 20 games in a row until hes satisfied beating the opponent.


Is this style of practice unique to JD? I heard July back in the days would just spam 30-40 games a day and I thought that is what all progamers do to some extent


Jaedong's worth ethic is something that everybody has praised, and is in my opinion, unparalleled in its longevity and intensity. July was an exceptional work horse during his peak, but due to various circumstances could not withstand the test of time. Also, there were numerous great players such as NaDa and sAviOr, who did not practice all that much, I mean, here's what Flash had to say about the great NaDa.

"In terms of gaming capabilities, the greatest genius of them all. That would be an apt summary. Remember that I was there besides him. I nearly quit gaming out of despair. He would play Sudden Attack all day, but still would go to all these finals. He didn't practice that much while I was there. But he would still win, it was simply mind boggling. The most mind boggling thing was how he would play games with me, then make my builds into his own. After just seeing it once! And it would feel like he would use them better than me. These builds that I spent all that time perfecting."

There are also numerous tales of NaDa just playing a couple of off-race games before huge finals and leaving it at that, and listening to music during tournament games.

However, with Jaedong, it's not just the sheer number of games that is astounding, it's the intensity with which he approached these practice games. He would record the results of every single practice sessions, and get mad as hell with even the smallest mistakes he might make. I remember Tyson saying that Jaedong would curse and rage every time he missed a dropship appearing on the mini-map during practice.

Yeah Flash did in fact say those things on afreeca stream on his bday. After he said that someone on chat was like "Talent beats effort." Flash was like "No! effort beats talent. Im the living proof of that."
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8714 Posts
August 02 2016 14:15 GMT
#404
On August 02 2016 22:55 outscar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 22:50 kogeT wrote:
LOL, there has been a huge "Jaedong Lee" msg on Flash stream via skype. I wonder what Jaedong wrote to him. :D


He probably said: Enjoy your ASL run into finals and try to win it because after I'll comeback I'm gonna give you a nightmare hard time.


lol :D

On August 02 2016 23:10 classicyellow83 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 13:23 Letmelose wrote:
On August 02 2016 11:51 duke91 wrote:
On August 02 2016 11:49 LaStScan wrote:
On August 01 2016 00:36 c3rberUs wrote:
He's "still playing for fun" so #45 sounds about right?

Hes trying to learn like a student behavior. Since he missed like a couple years and current trend so he's acting like his old amateur time. Good starting pt to get back into the game.
Btw once he targets someone, he will play like 20 games in a row until hes satisfied beating the opponent.


Is this style of practice unique to JD? I heard July back in the days would just spam 30-40 games a day and I thought that is what all progamers do to some extent


Jaedong's worth ethic is something that everybody has praised, and is in my opinion, unparalleled in its longevity and intensity. July was an exceptional work horse during his peak, but due to various circumstances could not withstand the test of time. Also, there were numerous great players such as NaDa and sAviOr, who did not practice all that much, I mean, here's what Flash had to say about the great NaDa.

"In terms of gaming capabilities, the greatest genius of them all. That would be an apt summary. Remember that I was there besides him. I nearly quit gaming out of despair. He would play Sudden Attack all day, but still would go to all these finals. He didn't practice that much while I was there. But he would still win, it was simply mind boggling. The most mind boggling thing was how he would play games with me, then make my builds into his own. After just seeing it once! And it would feel like he would use them better than me. These builds that I spent all that time perfecting."

There are also numerous tales of NaDa just playing a couple of off-race games before huge finals and leaving it at that, and listening to music during tournament games.

However, with Jaedong, it's not just the sheer number of games that is astounding, it's the intensity with which he approached these practice games. He would record the results of every single practice sessions, and get mad as hell with even the smallest mistakes he might make. I remember Tyson saying that Jaedong would curse and rage every time he missed a dropship appearing on the mini-map during practice.

Yeah Flash did in fact say those things on afreeca stream on his bday. After he said that someone on chat was like "Talent beats effort." Flash was like "No! effort beats talent. Im the living proof of that."


That's a great respone! :D
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
August 02 2016 14:20 GMT
#405
On August 02 2016 23:10 classicyellow83 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 13:23 Letmelose wrote:
On August 02 2016 11:51 duke91 wrote:
On August 02 2016 11:49 LaStScan wrote:
On August 01 2016 00:36 c3rberUs wrote:
He's "still playing for fun" so #45 sounds about right?

Hes trying to learn like a student behavior. Since he missed like a couple years and current trend so he's acting like his old amateur time. Good starting pt to get back into the game.
Btw once he targets someone, he will play like 20 games in a row until hes satisfied beating the opponent.


Is this style of practice unique to JD? I heard July back in the days would just spam 30-40 games a day and I thought that is what all progamers do to some extent


Jaedong's worth ethic is something that everybody has praised, and is in my opinion, unparalleled in its longevity and intensity. July was an exceptional work horse during his peak, but due to various circumstances could not withstand the test of time. Also, there were numerous great players such as NaDa and sAviOr, who did not practice all that much, I mean, here's what Flash had to say about the great NaDa.

"In terms of gaming capabilities, the greatest genius of them all. That would be an apt summary. Remember that I was there besides him. I nearly quit gaming out of despair. He would play Sudden Attack all day, but still would go to all these finals. He didn't practice that much while I was there. But he would still win, it was simply mind boggling. The most mind boggling thing was how he would play games with me, then make my builds into his own. After just seeing it once! And it would feel like he would use them better than me. These builds that I spent all that time perfecting."

There are also numerous tales of NaDa just playing a couple of off-race games before huge finals and leaving it at that, and listening to music during tournament games.

However, with Jaedong, it's not just the sheer number of games that is astounding, it's the intensity with which he approached these practice games. He would record the results of every single practice sessions, and get mad as hell with even the smallest mistakes he might make. I remember Tyson saying that Jaedong would curse and rage every time he missed a dropship appearing on the mini-map during practice.

Yeah Flash did in fact say those things on afreeca stream on his bday. After he said that someone on chat was like "Talent beats effort." Flash was like "No! effort beats talent. Im the living proof of that."


And I thought for a second this was some BM against Effort
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2042 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-02 14:40:37
August 02 2016 14:32 GMT
#406
Seems that Jiko is confirmed Jaedong? After accidential msg on skype to Flash whole Fish is flooded with different "Jiko" nicks also incl. Jiko.Jaedong etc.

And Flash is now trying to hunt down Jiko to play a game..
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
August 02 2016 14:58 GMT
#407
On August 02 2016 23:01 sabas123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 21:19 Andre wrote:
On August 02 2016 13:23 Letmelose wrote:
On August 02 2016 11:51 duke91 wrote:
On August 02 2016 11:49 LaStScan wrote:
On August 01 2016 00:36 c3rberUs wrote:
He's "still playing for fun" so #45 sounds about right?

Hes trying to learn like a student behavior. Since he missed like a couple years and current trend so he's acting like his old amateur time. Good starting pt to get back into the game.
Btw once he targets someone, he will play like 20 games in a row until hes satisfied beating the opponent.


Is this style of practice unique to JD? I heard July back in the days would just spam 30-40 games a day and I thought that is what all progamers do to some extent


Jaedong's worth ethic is something that everybody has praised, and is in my opinion, unparalleled in its longevity and intensity. July was an exceptional work horse during his peak, but due to various circumstances could not withstand the test of time. Also, there were numerous great players such as NaDa and sAviOr, who did not practice all that much, I mean, here's what Flash had to say about the great NaDa.

"In terms of gaming capabilities, the greatest genius of them all. That would be an apt summary. Remember that I was there besides him. I nearly quit gaming out of despair. He would play Sudden Attack all day, but still would go to all these finals. He didn't practice that much while I was there. But he would still win, it was simply mind boggling. The most mind boggling thing was how he would play games with me, then make my builds into his own. After just seeing it once! And it would feel like he would use them better than me. These builds that I spent all that time perfecting."

There are also numerous tales of NaDa just playing a couple of off-race games before huge finals and leaving it at that, and listening to music during tournament games.

However, with Jaedong, it's not just the sheer number of games that is astounding, it's the intensity with which he approached these practice games. He would record the results of every single practice sessions, and get mad as hell with even the smallest mistakes he might make. I remember Tyson saying that Jaedong would curse and rage every time he missed a dropship appearing on the mini-map during practice.

That's just crazy, if true. I've always had the most respect for Nada simply because he won starleagues in such vastly different eras of BW.

I don't believe it completely though. I'm sure NaDa massed as much as the others, there would be a sort of meta advantage if other people thought he didn't. If it demoralized Flash, it would demoralize anyone.

Didn't Savi0r practice like 19 hours a day or something crazy for a while?


sAviOr's another one that is famous for not practicing that much. Remember CYON MSL when he wiped the floor with iloveoov three to zero? He was supposed to have just played three games in preparation. Maybe there was a time when sAviOr practiced 19 hours a day for a match, but I doubt it. There are tons of players who didn't practice a lot, Sea is also another one.

Alas, hard work does beat talent given enough time. Bisu said Sea was a lot better than him initially, but only practiced a couple of games a day, and spent the rest of the day gossiping and watching television, but didn't get scolded by the higher ups because he produced good results. This imagery of all top level gamers being practice machines who grind out games all day is a false myth. There are plenty of gamers who slacked off and relied on their talent.
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Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States924 Posts
August 02 2016 15:54 GMT
#408
god sc2 subreddit denying jaedong is returning to bw because jaedong says "rumors aint true". OFC WHEN HE HAS TO AGREE WITH EVIL GENIUS and wait out until november. that subreddit is overwhelmingly sc2 favored its disgusting.
Life is just life
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
August 02 2016 16:04 GMT
#409
On August 03 2016 00:54 Shinokuki wrote:
god sc2 subreddit denying jaedong is returning to bw because jaedong says "rumors aint true". OFC WHEN HE HAS TO AGREE WITH EVIL GENIUS and wait out until november. that subreddit is overwhelmingly sc2 favored its disgusting.


this facebook page was just a fanpage. No official statement from JD himself
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NewbOnTheFloor
Profile Joined November 2013
Poland160 Posts
August 02 2016 16:11 GMT
#410
On August 02 2016 23:32 kogeT wrote:
And Flash is now trying to hunt down Jiko to play a game..

Did he snipe him ?
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
August 02 2016 16:21 GMT
#411
On August 03 2016 00:54 Shinokuki wrote:
god sc2 subreddit denying jaedong is returning to bw because jaedong says "rumors aint true". OFC WHEN HE HAS TO AGREE WITH EVIL GENIUS and wait out until november. that subreddit is overwhelmingly sc2 favored its disgusting.


I mean it makes sense. That subreddit became popular thanks to starcraft 2. It would make total sense as to why it's mainly sc2 content. There is a subreddit for just bw as well, but again not as popular. Probably because most BW players use teamliquid and not reddit.

Why it disgusts you I have no idea, but that is why it's sc2 favored.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3175 Posts
August 02 2016 16:27 GMT
#412
On August 03 2016 01:21 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2016 00:54 Shinokuki wrote:
god sc2 subreddit denying jaedong is returning to bw because jaedong says "rumors aint true". OFC WHEN HE HAS TO AGREE WITH EVIL GENIUS and wait out until november. that subreddit is overwhelmingly sc2 favored its disgusting.


I mean it makes sense. That subreddit became popular thanks to starcraft 2. It would make total sense as to why it's mainly sc2 content. There is a subreddit for just bw as well, but again not as popular. Probably because most BW players use teamliquid and not reddit.

Why it disgusts you I have no idea, but that is why it's sc2 favored.


Well, for me what disgusts me is the retards who downvote any BW content. I posted on reddit the top 5 of July and the top 10 earnings of BW and got downvoted. Never made it out of fresh section.

Anyway, lets not get this thread wasted on things like reddit and focus on the main topic.
Ponder
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United Kingdom66 Posts
August 02 2016 17:07 GMT
#413
does anyone have the recent Jiko games recorded somewhere ?
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
August 02 2016 17:57 GMT
#414
have fun.
new BW-player (~E rank fish) twitch.tv/crispydrone || What plays 500 games a season but can't get better? => http://imgur.com/a/pLzf9 <= ||
Ponder
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United Kingdom66 Posts
August 02 2016 18:15 GMT
#415
On August 03 2016 02:57 B-royal wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRbX1R3-gwI have fun.



Thank you But i have already got those games in my favorites from days ago but i mean does anyone have the new games hes done just lately as spoke about by :

On August 02 2016 11:08 prech wrote:
Looks like "jiko" is back. Played a 8-10 game marathon with Shinee, losing no more than two games along the way -- big improvement from even last week

So apparently it was either today or yesterday ?
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 02 2016 18:25 GMT
#416
I hope jiko is some up and coming 15 year old
Ponder
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United Kingdom66 Posts
August 02 2016 18:30 GMT
#417
On August 03 2016 03:25 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
I hope jiko is some up and coming 15 year old


please no
Ponder
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United Kingdom66 Posts
August 02 2016 18:40 GMT
#418
On August 03 2016 03:25 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
I hope jiko is some up and coming 15 year old



hmm i just noticed we joined the same year and month, what are the odds of that i wonder
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
August 02 2016 19:07 GMT
#419
Maybe it is this mysterious X I read about
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B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
August 02 2016 19:39 GMT
#420
On August 03 2016 03:15 Ponder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2016 02:57 B-royal wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRbX1R3-gwI have fun.



Thank you But i have already got those games in my favorites from days ago but i mean does anyone have the new games hes done just lately as spoke about by :

On August 02 2016 11:08 prech wrote:
Looks like "jiko" is back. Played a 8-10 game marathon with Shinee, losing no more than two games along the way -- big improvement from even last week

So apparently it was either today or yesterday ?


My bad. You could check out shinee's afreeca page. http://www.afreecatv.com/onlysibar

I don't know korean so it's hard to navigate and search but maybe someone else can help us.
new BW-player (~E rank fish) twitch.tv/crispydrone || What plays 500 games a season but can't get better? => http://imgur.com/a/pLzf9 <= ||
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