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SB is on the good way winning BW community.
I think that SB dev team is few steps ahead Blizzard.
SB on 1.16.1 patch > Blizzard 1.18 patch.
Also number of active players is still higher on SB than on regular Battle.net and/or ICCUP.
On 1.18 there is still no matchmaking but I like SB interface better and everything can be improved over time.
If SB dev team implement more features, fix some bugs, polish interface and add matchmaking they will surely be where blizzard want to be right now...
- in heart of remaining broodwar players
You guys already win for me but keep up good work there is still lot to improve...
You guys are too close to give up. 
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On April 09 2017 22:51 SCC-Faust wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2017 22:19 chrisolo wrote:
In the state it is right now, it has literally zero advantages above other BW server. While I'm sure you think you know what you're talking about, no one else cares.
Vice versa. If you want to say that there is a flowering activity on SB, maybe you are the one who is wrong  ?
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On April 10 2017 00:04 chrisolo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2017 22:51 SCC-Faust wrote:On April 09 2017 22:19 chrisolo wrote:
In the state it is right now, it has literally zero advantages above other BW server. While I'm sure you think you know what you're talking about, no one else cares. Vice versa. If you want to say that there is a flowering activity on SB, maybe you are the one who is wrong ?
Who are you and what makes you so toxic? It is a 20 old game with a very small amount of invited users for a third party client in beta and you just have to have opinions on it. "Dead game, dead server, dead everything, stupid mods" - whatever, take your negativity somewhere else.
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It's kinda funny reading some of these responses. The main reason that the invites were on a controlled pace was to test new features and keep adding things in. This is a community project run by two members who already have their hands full with real life obligations so obviously, it's not going to be fully done or have everything implemented from the get go. That's why its in beta!
Same goes for activity. Shieldbattery plays really well and so long as you ask and wait a bit, you will find someone who will want to 1v1. Games load fast, latency is great and mouse sensitivity is as good, if not better than ICCup. Not to mention that full screen works great and instantaneously. Personally, I can't wait to see what shieldbattery looks like several months down the line once more features are implemented and the player population increases.
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What is toxic about saying that the beta should have been pushed back in time? I just said if they would have released this with a functioning match making service, then people wouldn't be so salty about the lack of the announced features. If you want to hop on to play a game on SB, there will be a high chance you won't get a game because of the low activity. And you know why the activity is low? Because there is not much SB offers at the moment. Sure SB will be good once it is fully done, but right now it has just no advantages. If you want to play ladder, you go to ICCup/Fish and if you want a bugfree experience you will be able to go to BNet once 1.18a is out of testing (yes it is buggy right now).
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On April 10 2017 00:04 chrisolo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2017 22:51 SCC-Faust wrote:On April 09 2017 22:19 chrisolo wrote:
In the state it is right now, it has literally zero advantages above other BW server. While I'm sure you think you know what you're talking about, no one else cares. Vice versa. If you want to say that there is a flowering activity on SB, maybe you are the one who is wrong ?
- Shieldbattery has better latency for most foreign players compared to other servers
- Anyone can host on Shieldbattery without the need to port forward unlike 1.16.1 servers
- It has a very ease-of-use system from lobby to game and is lightweight and uninvasive
- Has a customizable windowed mode with different resolutions
Bam dude, I just listed 4 advantages that Shieldbattery "literally" has over other servers. Jaw hit the floor yet?
Also I'm just saying this because I think it is very unhealthy discussion to come into a dev's thread about his project which you clearly don't have a very good idea of and criticize it rather than give feedback. It isn't even valid criticism, which is the worst kind of criticism. So while I know you're a bit pumped up that you gave me an argument and then winked at me like you somehow just owned my ass (and btw good thinking buddy, I totally woulda advocated for Shieldbattery's user base that is in a beta invite-only system), I hate to say that you're wrong and everyone who can read at above a 3rd grade level and glanced at the OP knows you're wrong too.
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On April 10 2017 00:25 SCC-Faust wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2017 00:04 chrisolo wrote:On April 09 2017 22:51 SCC-Faust wrote:On April 09 2017 22:19 chrisolo wrote:
In the state it is right now, it has literally zero advantages above other BW server. While I'm sure you think you know what you're talking about, no one else cares. Vice versa. If you want to say that there is a flowering activity on SB, maybe you are the one who is wrong ? - Shieldbattery has better latency for most foreign players compared to other servers
- Anyone can host on Shieldbattery without the need to port forward unlike 1.16.1 servers
- It has a very ease-of-use system from lobby to game and is lightweight and uninvasive
- Has a customizable windowed mode with different resolutions
Bam dude, I just listed 4 advantages that Shieldbattery "literally" has over other servers. Jaw hit the floor yet? Also I'm just saying this because I think it is very unhealthy discussion to come into a dev's thread about his project which you clearly don't have a very good idea of and criticize it rather than give feedback. It isn't even valid criticism, which is the worst kind of criticism. So while I know you're a bit pumped up that you gave me an argument and then winked at me like you somehow just owned my ass (and btw good thinking buddy, I totally woulda advocated for Shieldbattery's user base that is in a beta invite-only system), I hate to say that you're wrong and everyone who can read at above a 3rd grade level and glanced at the OP knows you're wrong too.
1) Not at all. Can't speak for everyone. Maybe you have better connection on it, because it is near to america.
2) Is also possible with 1.18a
3) Don't see how the other server have a hard to use lobby to game system (but yes the lobby in SB is good)
4) Don't see the reason you would need that.
BTW, I am not saying SB is a bad server or anything. As I wrote two times already, I only wished they had postponed the start of the beta until they can provide the matchmaking feature. I am sure if they did that, then SB would be probably the most active server despite being invite only in Beta.
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On April 10 2017 00:30 chrisolo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2017 00:25 SCC-Faust wrote:On April 10 2017 00:04 chrisolo wrote:On April 09 2017 22:51 SCC-Faust wrote:On April 09 2017 22:19 chrisolo wrote:
In the state it is right now, it has literally zero advantages above other BW server. While I'm sure you think you know what you're talking about, no one else cares. Vice versa. If you want to say that there is a flowering activity on SB, maybe you are the one who is wrong ? - Shieldbattery has better latency for most foreign players compared to other servers
- Anyone can host on Shieldbattery without the need to port forward unlike 1.16.1 servers
- It has a very ease-of-use system from lobby to game and is lightweight and uninvasive
- Has a customizable windowed mode with different resolutions
Bam dude, I just listed 4 advantages that Shieldbattery "literally" has over other servers. Jaw hit the floor yet? Also I'm just saying this because I think it is very unhealthy discussion to come into a dev's thread about his project which you clearly don't have a very good idea of and criticize it rather than give feedback. It isn't even valid criticism, which is the worst kind of criticism. So while I know you're a bit pumped up that you gave me an argument and then winked at me like you somehow just owned my ass (and btw good thinking buddy, I totally woulda advocated for Shieldbattery's user base that is in a beta invite-only system), I hate to say that you're wrong and everyone who can read at above a 3rd grade level and glanced at the OP knows you're wrong too. 1) Not at all. Can't speak for everyone. Maybe you have better connection on it, because it is near to america. 2) Is also possible with 1.18a 3) Don't see how the other server have a hard to use lobby to game system (but yes the lobby in SB is good) 4) Don't see the reason you would need that. BTW, I am not saying SB is a bad server or anything. As I wrote two times already, I only wished they had postponed the start of the beta until they can provide the matchmaking feature. I am sure if they did that, then SB would be probably the most active server despite being invite only in Beta.
Why? I've used it in various countries including in Germany and it always works well. Latency to America is higher than within Europe, but what do you expect? SB to break the laws of physics?
If you think it should be postponed because YOU have problems and because YOU don't need no window mode and YOU really want matchmaking more than anything else then please be done with that and realise that some people are enjoying the server, working hard on it or generally just have different priorities to you.
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On April 10 2017 00:30 chrisolo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2017 00:25 SCC-Faust wrote:On April 10 2017 00:04 chrisolo wrote:On April 09 2017 22:51 SCC-Faust wrote:On April 09 2017 22:19 chrisolo wrote:
In the state it is right now, it has literally zero advantages above other BW server. While I'm sure you think you know what you're talking about, no one else cares. Vice versa. If you want to say that there is a flowering activity on SB, maybe you are the one who is wrong ? - Shieldbattery has better latency for most foreign players compared to other servers
- Anyone can host on Shieldbattery without the need to port forward unlike 1.16.1 servers
- It has a very ease-of-use system from lobby to game and is lightweight and uninvasive
- Has a customizable windowed mode with different resolutions
Bam dude, I just listed 4 advantages that Shieldbattery "literally" has over other servers. Jaw hit the floor yet? Also I'm just saying this because I think it is very unhealthy discussion to come into a dev's thread about his project which you clearly don't have a very good idea of and criticize it rather than give feedback. It isn't even valid criticism, which is the worst kind of criticism. So while I know you're a bit pumped up that you gave me an argument and then winked at me like you somehow just owned my ass (and btw good thinking buddy, I totally woulda advocated for Shieldbattery's user base that is in a beta invite-only system), I hate to say that you're wrong and everyone who can read at above a 3rd grade level and glanced at the OP knows you're wrong too. 1) Not at all. Can't speak for everyone. Maybe you have better connection on it, because it is near to america. 2) Is also possible with 1.18a 3) Don't see how the other server have a hard to use lobby to game system (but yes the lobby in SB is good) 4) Don't see the reason you would need that. BTW, I am not saying SB is a bad server or anything. As I wrote two times already, I only wished they had postponed the start of the beta until they can provide the matchmaking feature. I am sure if they did that, then SB would be probably the most active server despite being invite only in Beta.
This is how uninformed you are. I tell you something that has factual evidence, and then you give me back your opinion.
Here is tec27's post on latency works on Shieldbattery and here is a post about the flexibility of window mode.
I don't care why you don't see a reason why someone would want to use window mode. NO ONE cares why you don't see a reason why someone would want to use window mode. The fact is that it exists, and people DO use it. And other servers don't have that functionality. So when you argue and say "[Shieldbattery] has literally zero advantages above other BW server." (btw yes you said that) and I say "Oh, it has this neat and flexible window mode!", your response of "I don't see the reason you need that" isn't actually a response? I mean maybe if the developers were specifically making Shieldbattery for you, then yeah I can see the problem. Maybe they could hold a briefing and explain to you why the fuck someone might actually consider playing it in window mode and then you can nod your head and scratch that one off your list. But that isn't how thinking and logic go. Anyways I'm going to stop responding now because this thread deserves real and legitimate responses and each new post you make makes less and less sense and moves further and further away from being valid criticism.
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On April 10 2017 00:15 chrisolo wrote:
What is toxic about saying that the beta should have been pushed back in time? I just said if they would have released this with a functioning match making service, then people wouldn't be so salty about the lack of the announced features. If you want to hop on to play a game on SB, there will be a high chance you won't get a game because of the low activity. And you know why the activity is low? Because there is not much SB offers at the moment. Sure SB will be good once it is fully done, but right now it has just no advantages. If you want to play ladder, you go to ICCup/Fish and if you want a bugfree experience you will be able to go to BNet once 1.18a is out of testing (yes it is buggy right now).
i ve never had a problem finding a game in shield battery though... granted sometimes it s not the same skill level but it s still fun and it s a friendly environment. Half my games on iccup are unplayable due to lag (and yes I can host)
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On April 10 2017 00:51 SCC-Faust wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2017 00:30 chrisolo wrote:On April 10 2017 00:25 SCC-Faust wrote:On April 10 2017 00:04 chrisolo wrote:On April 09 2017 22:51 SCC-Faust wrote:On April 09 2017 22:19 chrisolo wrote:
In the state it is right now, it has literally zero advantages above other BW server. While I'm sure you think you know what you're talking about, no one else cares. Vice versa. If you want to say that there is a flowering activity on SB, maybe you are the one who is wrong ? - Shieldbattery has better latency for most foreign players compared to other servers
- Anyone can host on Shieldbattery without the need to port forward unlike 1.16.1 servers
- It has a very ease-of-use system from lobby to game and is lightweight and uninvasive
- Has a customizable windowed mode with different resolutions
Bam dude, I just listed 4 advantages that Shieldbattery "literally" has over other servers. Jaw hit the floor yet? Also I'm just saying this because I think it is very unhealthy discussion to come into a dev's thread about his project which you clearly don't have a very good idea of and criticize it rather than give feedback. It isn't even valid criticism, which is the worst kind of criticism. So while I know you're a bit pumped up that you gave me an argument and then winked at me like you somehow just owned my ass (and btw good thinking buddy, I totally woulda advocated for Shieldbattery's user base that is in a beta invite-only system), I hate to say that you're wrong and everyone who can read at above a 3rd grade level and glanced at the OP knows you're wrong too. 1) Not at all. Can't speak for everyone. Maybe you have better connection on it, because it is near to america. 2) Is also possible with 1.18a 3) Don't see how the other server have a hard to use lobby to game system (but yes the lobby in SB is good) 4) Don't see the reason you would need that. BTW, I am not saying SB is a bad server or anything. As I wrote two times already, I only wished they had postponed the start of the beta until they can provide the matchmaking feature. I am sure if they did that, then SB would be probably the most active server despite being invite only in Beta. This is how uninformed you are. I tell you something that has factual evidence, and then you give me back your opinion. Here is tec27's post on latency works on Shieldbattery and here is a post about the flexibility of window mode. I don't care why you don't see a reason why someone would want to use window mode. NO ONE cares why you don't see a reason why someone would want to use window mode. The fact is that it exists, and people DO use it. And other servers don't have that functionality. So when you argue and say "[Shieldbattery] has literally zero advantages above other BW server." (btw yes you said that) and I say "Oh, it has this neat and flexible window mode!", your response of "I don't see the reason you need that" isn't actually a response? I mean maybe if the developers were specifically making Shieldbattery for you, then yeah I can see the problem. Maybe they could hold a briefing and explain to you why the fuck someone might actually consider playing it in window mode and then you can nod your head and scratch that one off your list. But that isn't how thinking and logic go. Anyways I'm going to stop responding now because this thread deserves real and legitimate responses and each new post you make makes less and less sense and moves further and further away from being valid criticism.
Why are you so salty? Maybe calm down before arguing over the internet.
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@ neptunusfisk:
Suggestion: Maybe you do not barge in, when this was between me and Faust?
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On April 10 2017 01:05 chrisolo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2017 00:51 SCC-Faust wrote:On April 10 2017 00:30 chrisolo wrote:On April 10 2017 00:25 SCC-Faust wrote:On April 10 2017 00:04 chrisolo wrote:On April 09 2017 22:51 SCC-Faust wrote:On April 09 2017 22:19 chrisolo wrote:
In the state it is right now, it has literally zero advantages above other BW server. While I'm sure you think you know what you're talking about, no one else cares. Vice versa. If you want to say that there is a flowering activity on SB, maybe you are the one who is wrong ? - Shieldbattery has better latency for most foreign players compared to other servers
- Anyone can host on Shieldbattery without the need to port forward unlike 1.16.1 servers
- It has a very ease-of-use system from lobby to game and is lightweight and uninvasive
- Has a customizable windowed mode with different resolutions
Bam dude, I just listed 4 advantages that Shieldbattery "literally" has over other servers. Jaw hit the floor yet? Also I'm just saying this because I think it is very unhealthy discussion to come into a dev's thread about his project which you clearly don't have a very good idea of and criticize it rather than give feedback. It isn't even valid criticism, which is the worst kind of criticism. So while I know you're a bit pumped up that you gave me an argument and then winked at me like you somehow just owned my ass (and btw good thinking buddy, I totally woulda advocated for Shieldbattery's user base that is in a beta invite-only system), I hate to say that you're wrong and everyone who can read at above a 3rd grade level and glanced at the OP knows you're wrong too. 1) Not at all. Can't speak for everyone. Maybe you have better connection on it, because it is near to america. 2) Is also possible with 1.18a 3) Don't see how the other server have a hard to use lobby to game system (but yes the lobby in SB is good) 4) Don't see the reason you would need that. BTW, I am not saying SB is a bad server or anything. As I wrote two times already, I only wished they had postponed the start of the beta until they can provide the matchmaking feature. I am sure if they did that, then SB would be probably the most active server despite being invite only in Beta. This is how uninformed you are. I tell you something that has factual evidence, and then you give me back your opinion. Here is tec27's post on latency works on Shieldbattery and here is a post about the flexibility of window mode. I don't care why you don't see a reason why someone would want to use window mode. NO ONE cares why you don't see a reason why someone would want to use window mode. The fact is that it exists, and people DO use it. And other servers don't have that functionality. So when you argue and say "[Shieldbattery] has literally zero advantages above other BW server." (btw yes you said that) and I say "Oh, it has this neat and flexible window mode!", your response of "I don't see the reason you need that" isn't actually a response? I mean maybe if the developers were specifically making Shieldbattery for you, then yeah I can see the problem. Maybe they could hold a briefing and explain to you why the fuck someone might actually consider playing it in window mode and then you can nod your head and scratch that one off your list. But that isn't how thinking and logic go. Anyways I'm going to stop responding now because this thread deserves real and legitimate responses and each new post you make makes less and less sense and moves further and further away from being valid criticism. Why are you so salty? Maybe calm down before arguing over the internet.
Suggestion: read the post instead of going for cheap tricks
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Why are you so salty? Maybe calm down before arguing over the internet.
"Hey guys just to let you know - I don't even care about this argument! I just made a bunch of statements for no reason, it's not like I don't have an actual retort, I just want to appear superior in some way now that I've run out of answers."
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On April 10 2017 01:32 BossPurple wrote:"Hey guys just to let you know - I don't even care about this argument! I just made a bunch of statements for no reason, it's not like I don't have an actual retort, I just want to appear superior in some way now that I've run out of answers."
Or I don't want to heat up the discussion anymore, because I will stand with my oppinion that they released the beta too soon. Yes it is fine that there are people, which use SB actively and they can give the best feedback for sure. But why am I being attacked (described as an idiotic drinker in a bar or as someone who needs a conference specially for me) when I say MY OPPINION that the server has no advantages AT THE MOMENT and that they should have pushed back the beta until they would have the match-making services ready for testing. There are so many people invited into Beta and still the probability of getting a game within 5 or even 10 minutes is very low. I have never said that SB is a bad idea, bad server or has bad features, but that the activity could have been much higher when they'd release it with the matchmaking as the initial hype was very big.
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My bad dude, I'm sorry. Lets start over. My name is Faust and I'm not such a bad guy once you get to know me.
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On April 10 2017 01:48 chrisolo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2017 01:32 BossPurple wrote:
Why are you so salty? Maybe calm down before arguing over the internet.
"Hey guys just to let you know - I don't even care about this argument! I just made a bunch of statements for no reason, it's not like I don't have an actual retort, I just want to appear superior in some way now that I've run out of answers." Or I don't want to heat up the discussion anymore, because I will stand with my oppinion that they released the beta too soon. Yes it is fine that there are people, which use SB actively and they can give the best feedback for sure. But why am I being attacked (described as an idiotic drinker in a bar or as someone who needs a conference specially for me) when I say MY OPPINION that the server has no advantages AT THE MOMENT and that they should have pushed back the beta until they would have the match-making services ready for testing. There are so many people invited into Beta and still the probability of getting a game within 5 or even 10 minutes is very low. I have never said that SB is a bad idea, bad server or has bad features, but that the activity could have been much higher when they'd release it with the matchmaking as the initial hype was very big.
I don't care what side you're on. My point is, don't get in to an argument and then belittle others for actually responding to you, it just makes you look petty.
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On April 10 2017 01:48 chrisolo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2017 01:32 BossPurple wrote:
Why are you so salty? Maybe calm down before arguing over the internet.
"Hey guys just to let you know - I don't even care about this argument! I just made a bunch of statements for no reason, it's not like I don't have an actual retort, I just want to appear superior in some way now that I've run out of answers." Or I don't want to heat up the discussion anymore, because I will stand with my oppinion that they released the beta too soon. Yes it is fine that there are people, which use SB actively and they can give the best feedback for sure. But why am I being attacked (described as an idiotic drinker in a bar or as someone who needs a conference specially for me) when I say MY OPPINION that the server has no advantages AT THE MOMENT and that they should have pushed back the beta until they would have the match-making services ready for testing. There are so many people invited into Beta and still the probability of getting a game within 5 or even 10 minutes is very low. I have never said that SB is a bad idea, bad server or has bad features, but that the activity could have been much higher when they'd release it with the matchmaking as the initial hype was very big.
It's just a sort of ridiculous suggestion. We worked on this project in isolation for *3 years* before we announced it. Let me say that again: 3 years. Do you understand how hard it is to work on a project like this without letting anyone know about it? How terrible it is to see, time and time again, people in the community spin up some ambitious project extremely publicly, get everyone whipped into a frenzy about it's potential, and then shut it down some number of months later (to the extreme disappointment of everyone) while all along, you're toiling away in the background building something even better, you just can't tell them about it? Not to mention how ridiculously hard it is to get a solid pool of testers to help you with things when everything has to be hush-hush and secret. It just doesn't work. So we decided to push really hard to get a pool of features that actually worked and then polish the hell out of them, so we could ship something and give the community something they could actually use right then.
I'm sorry this set of features isn't what you'd consider perfect, or something you'd like to use right at this moment, but we had to pick some set of features to begin with. We deliberated on the launch feature set for a long time. We worked incredibly hard just to get things ready for the timeframe we wanted to launch in. I've burned myself out repeatedly to make this happen. I don't think I've taken a single day of vacation from work in the past 2 years other than to work on this project.
To you it may look like we've just been twiddling our thumbs since we announced this, not implementing the stuff you really care about, but there's a lot of necessary infrastructure required to support larger player bases. We don't put this sort of stuff in our changelogs, because it's not particularly relevant to people who are just using the site, but it's a fair amount of work. We're finally mostly past that point, which is also why this invite wave has been able to be larger than past ones. I feel really good about the state of our features that form a basis for everything else (which is the same stuff Faust talked about: things like our networking and windowed mode). These things *have to* work very well or any matchmaking feature will fail.
We're not particularly worried about "missing the initial hype" with these things, either. I have access to the invite signups and the analytics for the site, so I know full well that the apex of our hype was not when we made the initial post. We've had a steady number (really, increasing) signups for the entirety of our existence. When we invite new users, more sign up to fill their spots. We're in this for the long haul, and thus we're not trying to exploit a single cycle of hype. We want the users who are going to play and keep playing for years, not the ones who are gonna play for a week and move onto the next game. If you're playing on ICCup now, you're very likely one of those users! Don't worry so much about there not being other users like you that will actually play on ShieldBattery: there absolutely are, and we'll get that player base.
Your criticism about this not being a complete product yet is completely fair and valid: We agree. That's why we haven't pushed this outside of the small microcosm that is the TL Brood War forum. We're giving all the BW vets that already play the game another option for where to play, while realizing this isn't yet ready for prime time. We're working, in the background, on making this ready for that, so that we can actually push it out to a wider audience and they can find it compelling. I hope that once we do that, you'll come back and give it another shot.
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If you look at Chrisolo's post history. This is his MO. Just ignore him guys.
Tec. You're doing awesome. Don't let the ONE troll get under your skin. You're on the right track.
To be straight. Most TL users don't sugercoat ANYTHING or circlejerk or what have you. Tec. You got a great thing going and if we see something, we let you know. You listen and you actually FINALLY put in UMS and loads of us happy. =)
Again, ignore the troll here and listen to the valuable feedback. Not the one time spout offs.
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On April 10 2017 04:24 tec27 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2017 01:48 chrisolo wrote:On April 10 2017 01:32 BossPurple wrote:
Why are you so salty? Maybe calm down before arguing over the internet.
"Hey guys just to let you know - I don't even care about this argument! I just made a bunch of statements for no reason, it's not like I don't have an actual retort, I just want to appear superior in some way now that I've run out of answers." Or I don't want to heat up the discussion anymore, because I will stand with my oppinion that they released the beta too soon. Yes it is fine that there are people, which use SB actively and they can give the best feedback for sure. But why am I being attacked (described as an idiotic drinker in a bar or as someone who needs a conference specially for me) when I say MY OPPINION that the server has no advantages AT THE MOMENT and that they should have pushed back the beta until they would have the match-making services ready for testing. There are so many people invited into Beta and still the probability of getting a game within 5 or even 10 minutes is very low. I have never said that SB is a bad idea, bad server or has bad features, but that the activity could have been much higher when they'd release it with the matchmaking as the initial hype was very big. ...
I am a very big fan of your project and wish you the best. Seriously. I don't know why the people here reacted so heavily to my initial post on the site before, but I did not mean any harm. Maybe it was little bit lost in translation that I did not mean to criticize you for anything. It is your project and only you decide what you want to do. I can understand that hiding such a project is hard and not feasible in the long run. Even though I stated that there is no advantage to other BW servers (beside the points Faust stated), I also wrote that this is the case "at the moment". If you manage to pull through and actually implement everything you have announced, I am more than happy helping you guys to establish a permanent user base even if there is less activity than on ICC or the official BNet servers after 1.18a update.
And I have never said that I think you are twiddling your thumbs. I am well aware of the workload that this has to be and I also know that you are only a small amount of people working on it beside your actual work. Never would I ever criticize you for not publishing those features. My only concern was that you would lose the interest of many people because you have announced it so early, but you said yourself you have a steady demand on beta access. So this might be the biggest argument why announcing it so early was not a mistake as I tried to point out.
Nevertheless it is stupid to talk about this in such a manner, I did not intend to pull such a shit-storm and I really never meant to insult you or your project at all. I made that post in a direct answer to this one:
On April 09 2017 19:47 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2017 17:35 Xeln4g4 wrote:
Just got the invitation after 6+ months of asking ... now that the PTR is here. I have 120 game on PTR in few days ... maybe you should have sent some more invitation. Thank you anyway. You got the invitation to test the beta. It's not done yet. I feel like a lot of you guys would be happier if it was completely closed while they worked on it.
KwarK wrote that ironic sentence that some would be happier if you were working on it completely closed and then I tried to give my own oppinion on it. I appologize to anyone thinking I have meant this as an insult. Again I have to say that my post was meant to be completely neutral.
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@PsyonicReaver
+ Show Spoiler +I don't know what you mean to look at my post history? Would you like to elaborate this in a PM? I have never been banned and only warned like once or twice on TL. I am not a troll and never tried to troll anybody on TL.
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So I've been a member here @TL.net since 2002 I believe and I have contributed very little yet I have stood back and watched this forum achieve greatness with that said, Chrisolo will you just stop your ruining my style I love reading not posting. Here is how it works in the past 16 years I've read some epic debates. The best ones go like this, "here are my 1 2 3 reasons and here are my sources" the other guy does the same, whilst some people chime in and the community picks a favorite. Then u move on to a new topic! Thanks for reading this my grammar is horrid I know! Just remember the common ground is BroodWar the greatest game of all time.
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