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fazek42
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Hungary441 Posts
April 07 2017 15:09 GMT
#2501
It definitely looks like a stable 1.18 is a loong way off though. I just hope they don't rush it, and only come out with it after they have ironned out every single bug.
Loliser
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada58 Posts
April 07 2017 15:57 GMT
#2502
I have to say, after playing the PTR a lot, the most recent change-set that they pushed through, is all really solid stuff. I say this with great caution, but I think blizzard might actually be doing 1.18 in a decent manner.

However that being said, who needs 1.18, I just got into SB, and it its seeming a lot better so far
FlArE777
Profile Joined September 2016
19 Posts
April 07 2017 20:28 GMT
#2503
Hahahaha I just got e-mail that I got to beta in Shieldbattery. You've got to be kidding me.

After so long time, you didn't listen to any of us saying what you should focus on and didn't give more invites, now that the PTR is out you give invites to beta... Good luck xD
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
April 07 2017 20:36 GMT
#2504
On April 08 2017 05:28 FlArE777 wrote:
Hahahaha I just got e-mail that I got to beta in Shieldbattery. You've got to be kidding me.

After so long time, you didn't listen to any of us saying what you should focus on and didn't give more invites, now that the PTR is out you give invites to beta... Good luck xD

I'm sure that he can just as easily remove the invite if you aren't interested The reasoning for their invites has been explained many times so I won't say more on that subject.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-07 21:20:56
April 07 2017 21:19 GMT
#2505
On April 08 2017 05:28 FlArE777 wrote:
Hahahaha I just got e-mail that I got to beta in Shieldbattery. You've got to be kidding me.

After so long time, you didn't listen to any of us saying what you should focus on and didn't give more invites, now that the PTR is out you give invites to beta... Good luck xD


I got my invite really late, and I'll probably not use it too much. However, ShieldBattery seems to be free. So, why complain? If you don't like it, then don't use it. I'm sure ShieldBattery would be even more useful if Blizzard hadn't announced BW HD.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9643 Posts
April 07 2017 21:50 GMT
#2506
On April 08 2017 05:28 FlArE777 wrote:
Hahahaha I just got e-mail that I got to beta in Shieldbattery. You've got to be kidding me.

After so long time, you didn't listen to any of us saying what you should focus on and didn't give more invites, now that the PTR is out you give invites to beta... Good luck xD


{citation needed}

maybe you either can't read or just don't want to. either way, nobody looks favorably at people talking out their ass.
JungleTerrain
Profile Joined January 2012
Chile799 Posts
April 07 2017 22:12 GMT
#2507
On April 08 2017 00:09 fazek42 wrote:
It definitely looks like a stable 1.18 is a loong way off though. I just hope they don't rush it, and only come out with it after they have ironned out every single bug.


Hopefully when SCR comes out 1.18 will be bug-free (or enough that it is as comparatively stable and bug-free at least as much as 1.16, getting rid of all bugs might take longer)

But as they've said, patch 1.18's main purpose is to lay the groundwork for the SCR release, which is the REAL product, since they expect to make money off that obviously.
www.broodwarmaps.net
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44397 Posts
April 07 2017 23:18 GMT
#2508
Person mad about project they didn't work on or pay for is mad that their early access to the beta is insufficiently early. Sigh.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
fatrix
Profile Joined December 2016
3 Posts
April 07 2017 23:48 GMT
#2509
Thanks for the invite! playing already
Leeoku
Profile Joined May 2010
1617 Posts
April 08 2017 00:09 GMT
#2510
idk I have SB and normal BW downloaded through main client. I login and the colours are all screwed up or text not there even when hovering over. SB has no colour issues
emilus
Profile Joined March 2007
Poland7 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-09 09:48:43
April 08 2017 17:13 GMT
#2511
I am testing shield battery now and it seems that its quite dead or something is very wrong.

Only one single person is hosting game (not counting me) and is not responding.
Only 1 person responded(?) to my Hi.(sigh..)

ISSUES:

- find match doesnt work (I assume that this will be promised and most awaited matchmaking feature)
- replays button doesnt seem to work.
- 1280x960 windowed mode is not sharp/clear as should be (is there some kind of texture filtering enabled in OPENGL backend ? IMHO pixels should not be blended beacouse it looks bad)

- for those who can display 960p best option will be using GL_NEAREST param:
http://gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/19075/how-can-i-make-opengl-textures-scale-without-becoming-blurry

-- game dont show score after match

-- remember me checkbox is not working as expected


I've prepared list of suggestions that can improve usability of this aplication (I am professional web dev):

-- add anchor on each nickname that will automatically create and open whisper window to specific user. (should be easy)

-- add autocomplete - autoselect feature for Map and Game type select fields so user can find desired options faster by pressing one letter.

-- there is missing 'one on one' option in game type field

-- 'leave lobby' button is hard to notice and reach IMHO it should be under minimap and close to START BUTTON (or on it's place if we are joining lobby)

-- add 'in game', 'want to play' and 'away from keyboard' labels that can be set manually or automatically for user and then displayed on user list.

-- add checkbox in game options 'minimize' that allow to automatically minimize SB window when game is started. (should be easy)

-- add some kind of 'beep' sound on countdoun

-- add posibility to change colour of picked race for each player / computer if possible

-- add button that allow to log out and quit application (in same time) (should be easy)

-- display bigger detailed map in popover when hovering on map and add redirect action to map details on click (redirect to teamliquid wiki) or better get map details from wiki and display it in popover near detailed map.

-- add posibility to hide/show offline user list

-- last chosen settings in create game window should be remembered (name, map, game type)

-- add subtle notification when somone is creating new lobby (lt could be just bolded coloured information on main channel like " 'playername' has created game 'gamename', 'game_details' ")

-- automatically close lobby if creator is AFK for longer than 5 minutes.

-- in creator lobby add button 'announce' that will automatically display message on #sheidbattery channel:
" 'playername' is looking for 'preffered_race' player for his game: 'game_name', 'game_details' " but to avoid spam it should be clickable once per 5 minutes. Near that button should be select field with 'preffered_race' parameter for announcement.

Best wishes !

Question: Is There any possibility to integrate mcalauncher in SB (I really miss APM Counter, PLAYERS/MAP info, Antihack, Timer, and cool border) ?





2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9571 Posts
April 08 2017 19:06 GMT
#2512
On April 09 2017 02:13 emilus wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I am testing shield battery now and it seems that its quite dead or something is very wrong.

Only one single person is hosting game (not counting me) and is not responding.
Only 1 person responded(?) to my Hi.(sigh..)

- No one is joining lobby created by me.
- find match doesnt work (I assume that this will be promised and most awaited matchmaking feature)
- replays button doesnt seem to work.
- 1280x960 windowed mode is not sharp/clear as should be (is there some kind of texture filtering enabled in OPENGL backend ? IMHO pixels should not be blended beacouse it looks bad)


I've prepared list of suggestions that can improve usability of this aplication (I am professional web dev):

-- add anchor on each nickname that will automatically create and open whisper window to specific user. (should be easy)

-- add autocomplete feature for Map and Game type select fields so user can find desired options faster by pressing one letter.

-- there is missing 'one on one' option in game type field

-- 'leave lobby' button is hard to notice and reach IMHO it should be under minimap and close to START BUTTON (or on it's place if we are joining lobby)

-- add 'in game', 'want to play' and 'away from keyboard' labels that can be set manually or automatically for user and then displayed on user list.

-- add checkbox in game options 'minimize' that allow to automatically minimize SB window when game is started. (should be easy)

-- add some kind of 'beep' sound on countdoun

-- add posibility to change colour of picked race for each player / computer if possible

-- add button that allow to log out and quit application (in same time) (should be easy)

-- display bigger detailed map in popover when hovering on map and add redirect action to map details on click (redirect to teamliquid wiki) or better get map details from wiki and display it in popover near detailed map.

-- add posibility to hide/show offline user list

-- last chosen settings in create game window should be remembered (name, map, game type)

-- add subtle notification when somone is creating new lobby

-- automatically close lobby if creator is AFK for longer than 5 minutes.

Best wishes !

Question: Is There any possibility to integrate mcalauncher in SB (I really miss APM Counter, PLAYERS/MAP info, Antihack, Timer, and cool border) ?






Thanks for the feedback!
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
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emilus
Profile Joined March 2007
Poland7 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-09 07:47:45
April 09 2017 07:42 GMT
#2513
@Pacalypse - You guys should collaborate with iccup programmers and mcalauncher programmers to create Blizzard independent
platform for playing starcraft broodwar

Shield battery is already good step in this direction and with good will of mcalauncher devs it should be possible to integrate mcalauncher essential functionalities like antihack, apm, additional informations about map, players to SB

-- blizzard is collaborating with fish so why not collaborate with iccup devs and implement some kind of ELO rank system (see: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Battle.net_Leagues#Matchmaking_Rating) for
players. Having estimated player skill level will help with implementation of matchmaking feature. And maybe it will be possible to make abyss main SB server ?

Mcalauncher devs - instead of adding another usless functionality to your launcher you should collaborate with @2Pac and @tec27 to create something great...
Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
April 09 2017 08:35 GMT
#2514
Just got the invitation after 6+ months of asking ... now that the PTR is here. I have 120 game on PTR in few days ... maybe you should have sent some more invitation. Thank you anyway.
RedW4rr10r
Profile Joined January 2010
Switzerland749 Posts
April 09 2017 08:36 GMT
#2515
On April 09 2017 16:42 emilus wrote:
And maybe it will be possible to make abyss main SB server ?

Mcalauncher devs - instead of adding another usless functionality to your launcher you should collaborate with @2Pac and @tec27 to create something great...


The thing with iccup is that afaik the owners and coders don't care about bw anymore at all, for them it's all about dota.

And the mcalauncher dev doesn't want to do any updates from 1.18 onward (most likely due to time issues iirc, although for SB it could be a different story, dunno if they will adapt to 1.18 - not meant as criticism by me).
Rip & Tear until it is done!
emilus
Profile Joined March 2007
Poland7 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-09 09:15:07
April 09 2017 09:14 GMT
#2516
On April 09 2017 17:36 RedW4rr10r wrote:

And the mcalauncher dev doesn't want to do any updates from 1.18 onward (most likely due to time issues iirc, although for SB it could be a different story, dunno if they will adapt to 1.18 - not meant as criticism by me).


I think 1.18 support now is unnecassary because its PTR (full of bugs) and we are far away from acceptable bug-free 1.18a version. I think SB devs should focus on 1.16.1 and support for later stable version could be implemented in future.

AFAIK 1.16.1 is most stable and fully playable version used for years.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44397 Posts
April 09 2017 10:47 GMT
#2517
On April 09 2017 17:35 Xeln4g4 wrote:
Just got the invitation after 6+ months of asking ... now that the PTR is here. I have 120 game on PTR in few days ... maybe you should have sent some more invitation. Thank you anyway.

You got the invitation to test the beta. It's not done yet. I feel like a lot of you guys would be happier if it was completely closed while they worked on it.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2614 Posts
April 09 2017 13:19 GMT
#2518
Yea well it was shipped in a state that did not really promote gaming. I tested SB for 1-2 days (hosting up a game, asking for a game in chat, with little to no result i.e. game) and then went back to ICCup. If they'd release Beta, when Matchmaking is ready, then you would have better feedback. In the state it is right now, it has literally zero advantages above other BW server.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - aka cReAtiVee
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
April 09 2017 13:24 GMT
#2519
Just wanted to thank the people developing shieldbattery because it is great. A friend of mine, who is not very active on the forums here, got an invite in the last round. We played a bit and he was amazed by it. We usually have problems playing vs each other on iccup but this worked stellar without any problems!
maru G5L pls
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
April 09 2017 13:51 GMT
#2520
On April 09 2017 22:19 chrisolo wrote:
In the state it is right now, it has literally zero advantages above other BW server.


I mean there is having different opinions, and then there is just flat out being wrong.

Saying that is just ignorant if you seriously think there is "literally zero advantages" over other servers.

Feedback is good, and I'm sure SB isn't for everyone. No one is going to fault you if you enjoy playing PTR more, but there are definitely some people I've talked to from Teamliquid and on Starcraft related discords who seem to have some grudge against Shieldbattery cause they had to wait so long to a beta test, and then once accepted want to complain that it doesn't have all the features. (This is what a beta test is. I'm sorry you guys had to find out the hard way).

Here is a huge news flash: Shieldbattery's target demographic isn't for the people who got hyped for SC:R who are going to play Brood War for a month or two before realizing this is still at its core a 20 year old game and you are going to get bopped on the head like a whack-a-mole at a carnival. I know this is gonna blow your mind but if you log on to play once a month, and you have strong opinions about what you think most people want in a server: you don't. You guys are literally the equivalent of the drunk idiot at a bar backseat coaching the New England Patriots in a broadcasted football game cause he thinks he knows better. While I'm sure you think you know what you're talking about, no one else cares.
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